Grex Music3 Conference

Item 190: Music that best describes the human spirit

Entered by steve on Tue May 10 20:20:58 2005:

   If you were to present one kind of music to non-human itelligence,
what would it be?  The limitation is that it must fit within 64M of
storage.  I believe that a stock wave format is what the encoding
would be.  Given that I think we're looking at a length of 9 minutes.

   Anything is possible, but what might best describe humanity?

   The reasons behind this question will explained later.
18 responses total.

#1 of 18 by rcurl on Tue May 10 20:30:38 2005:

What does the first sentence (question) mean? What kind of "non-human
intelligence"? That of a worm, or an ape, and how would it be "presented"?


#2 of 18 by twenex on Tue May 10 20:33:03 2005:

Rane's Credo: Question Everything, except my own Know-It-All-Ness.


#3 of 18 by mcnally on Tue May 10 20:55:48 2005:

  re #1, 2:  Well, I can think of one tiresome duet that I wouldn't consider.

  re #0:  
  >     Anything is possible, but what might best describe humanity?

  What might best describe humanity, or what would I choose to present?
  Maybe "best describes" isn't what one would willingly choose.

  I'm sure this choice is pretty cliched, but upon reflection I believe
  I would choose the Ode to Joy movement from Beethoven's 9th Symphony.
  My reasoning:

     1)  it's moving (by human standards)
     2)  its sentiment (again by human standards) is positive and
         uplifting and the music is dynamic and exciting.
     3)  it contains both musical instrumentation and human voices,
         (as performed, usually both male and female) giving the
         recipient(s) a chance to hear a wider range of musical
         expression.
     4)  it's historically significant in the development of human
         music.
     5)  Beethoven rocks.


#4 of 18 by happyboy on Tue May 10 21:39:14 2005:

i think humanity could be summed up by just about any brittany 
spears recording, at least american mainstream humanity.


would it be possible to put a jpg of some fastfood trash
blowing around the parking lot of a stripmall next to a clearcut
on the olympic penn. on it?


#5 of 18 by cyklone on Tue May 10 22:58:33 2005:

Weren't Bach and the Beatles the choice already blasted into space?


#6 of 18 by rcurl on Tue May 10 23:09:19 2005:

Jeffrey's credo: dump on Rane?

Re #3: I've gotten totally tired of Beethoven's 9th. Loud and repetitive.
I did, however, play his 6th so much when I was in my 20's that I can identify
it from hearing any couple of bars. 

I don't think there is any particular piece of music that "best describes the
human spirit". How can it? Humanity is much more complex than a bucket of
notes. Certain musical passages have, however, gotten pretty well identified
with certain human moods - at least in Western music. 


#7 of 18 by mcnally on Wed May 11 06:11:51 2005:

re #6:  I also prefer Beethoven's 6th (aka "Pastoral") symphony to the 9th.
        But I don't think there's a short section of it that's quite as choice
        as excerpt as the bit of the 9th that I'd choose.


#8 of 18 by twenex on Wed May 11 09:14:32 2005:

Jeffrey's credo: dump on Rane?

Who dumped on whom first, bigshot?


#9 of 18 by rcurl on Wed May 11 15:56:08 2005:

Jeffrey has been doing all the "dumping". I've only been asking questions
and challenging certain assumptions. Scuh as, where's your evidence, pal?


#10 of 18 by mcnally on Wed May 11 16:15:42 2005:

 See, this is a perfect example of why I'd go for something other than
 "best describes the human spirit.."


#11 of 18 by rcurl on Wed May 11 17:29:56 2005:

OK. Let's get serious. I nominate "Beer Barrel Polka". 


#12 of 18 by happyboy on Wed May 11 19:08:47 2005:

oh totally!

in fact that song should be the new national anthem.


#13 of 18 by steve on Wed May 11 19:37:07 2005:

   Sorry I wasn't a little more specific.  Use "intelligent, thinking non-human
entities" as the intended subjects of my query.


#14 of 18 by rcurl on Thu May 12 01:39:54 2005:

Like, whales?


#15 of 18 by remmers on Fri May 20 14:15:16 2005:

Maybe STeve has extraterrestrial aliens in mind.  Has SETI finally
struck pay dirt?


#16 of 18 by rcurl on Fri May 20 19:36:24 2005:

Nope.


#17 of 18 by krj on Wed May 25 21:13:45 2005:

Wouldn't the music that best describes the human spirit be something
which describes the Chinese or Indian spirit?


#18 of 18 by charcat on Sat Jun 25 04:47:35 2005:

the C-scale, it has most of the songs in the world in it, just need
arranging.


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