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Item 166: Suicide or Murder : Kurt Donald Cobain

Entered by greycell on Sun Dec 28 02:31:06 2003:

I would like to know that whether Kurt D Cobain was murdered or 
comitted suicide.
Most of Grunge fans say that he was murdered and his wife made this 
happen. 
So would like to know. Please don't put biased statements.
Just put facts and also let me know the supporting URL if possible.

Warmest Regards

Mukesh Butail
34 responses total.

#1 of 34 by cyklone on Sun Dec 28 04:53:34 2003:

He was a fucked up junkie who killed himself when the drugs could no longer
kill the pain.


#2 of 34 by greycell on Sun Dec 28 08:30:40 2003:

You have always been a psycopath...nevermind for this posting of such 
weird message.

I have been watching you like this for the past five years

never ever wanna c u again posting anything on this topic.
bye bye


#3 of 34 by cyklone on Sun Dec 28 14:25:45 2003:

LOL! Yeah dude, that's me, just another psychopath. After all, I wouldn't
know anything about American music after playing in rock bands for over 30
years. And I wouldn't have a clue about self-destructive behavior after
knowing countless Cobain wannabes who think heroin is cool prop for their
artsy angst. Oh wait, here's a news flash: maybe it's just that you can't
handle the fact that a person can be a talented musician *and* a fucked up
junkie.  Have a nice time on your fantasy planet, where artists are
literally tortured by their evil spouses and not by their own personal
demons. 



#4 of 34 by mcnally on Sun Dec 28 16:30:05 2003:

  I wouldn't put it as bluntly as cyklone, and I seemingly have a good
  deal more sympathy for Cobain than he does, but in the end I agree
  with him that Cobain destroyed himself after he proved unable to 
  conquer his own mental and substance abuse problems.


#5 of 34 by cyklone on Sun Dec 28 19:46:26 2003:

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#6 of 34 by cyklone on Sun Dec 28 19:52:36 2003:

Actually, I do have more sympathy for Cobain than for certain other
junkies.  A lot of addictions are motivated by deep pain. Often it is
emotional pain, as opposed to what I understood to be the chronic and
painful physical condition Cobain suffered (stomach, I think). It seems to
me that living with incurable physical pain would justify addiction to a
greater degree than living with curable emotional pain. Having said all
that I still think heroin addicts are some of the stupidest addicts on
earth. At least prescription drug addicts can properly calculate dosage
levels. 



#7 of 34 by orinoco on Mon Dec 29 01:59:00 2003:

(Some sort of digestive malady, anyway.  I don't know if it was his stomach
or what.)


#8 of 34 by greycell on Mon Dec 29 04:00:25 2003:

You people should go to www.justiceforkurt.com


#9 of 34 by happyboy on Tue Dec 30 03:13:10 2003:

he was probably bipolar, had made attempts in the past,
was a junkie, and he killed himself.  nothing romantic
or mysterious about it, pretty pedestrian actually.

he was an asshole for doing that to his daughter.


#10 of 34 by gelinas on Tue Dec 30 04:26:04 2003:

(As for cancelling his credit card:  makes sense to me.  He'd walked out on
rehab, no one knew where he was, so eliminating his ability to spend should
have caused him to surface.)


#11 of 34 by greycell on Tue Jan 13 17:33:57 2004:

Thats true that Kurt wasted his life with drugs, but I'm pretty sure 
that he didn't commited suicide.
And it was surely his wife who made him die indirectly.
So I will never agree that Kurt committed suicide !!!

Rgds

Mukesh


#12 of 34 by happyboy on Tue Jan 13 17:57:03 2004:

his wife "made him commit suicide"?

he really must have been a pussy.


#13 of 34 by greycell on Wed Jan 14 11:44:47 2004:

Hi,

I hope you must have you are not believing this weird truth, but I hope 
and sure that one day you will realise this naked truth.

May his soul rest in peace. Amen

Rgds

Mukesh


#14 of 34 by happyboy on Wed Jan 14 19:44:05 2004:

rest in peace?  hah, he prolly reincarnated as a poppyplant.


#15 of 34 by greycell on Thu Jan 15 09:56:16 2004:

Hey guys

Why some people don't change, except knwoing the fact and being forced 
to their own ego trips.

dunno why
:(

rgds

mukesh


#16 of 34 by happyboy on Thu Jan 15 10:04:38 2004:

*yarf*


#17 of 34 by scott on Thu Jan 15 14:17:04 2004:

greycell says "Why some people don't change"...


#18 of 34 by jaklumen on Fri Jan 16 07:42:54 2004:

Yarf... yawning and barfing at the same time?


#19 of 34 by happyboy on Fri Jan 16 10:00:43 2004:

bingo!


#20 of 34 by greycell on Fri Jan 16 12:23:19 2004:

It seems i better get out of this debate.

rgds
mukesh


#21 of 34 by happyboy on Fri Jan 16 18:13:30 2004:


*sigh*


#22 of 34 by jaklumen on Sat Jan 17 06:58:37 2004:

were ya havin' fun, Barry?


#23 of 34 by happyboy on Sat Jan 17 09:57:01 2004:

i was thinking that he was gonna talk about
some really fun conspiracies ala art bell.




#24 of 34 by jaklumen on Sun Jan 18 09:48:13 2004:

Coast to Coast!


#25 of 34 by greycell on Mon Jan 19 10:04:50 2004:

Hiya

I do wanna be so sentimental about this topic but I would like to tell 
you all guys that I have a great respect for "Kurt Donald Cobain".
And knew that he spoiled himself with the aid of drugs anyway he is my 
icon.

And know that he created such kind of music and made a new genre of 
music "Grunge", and having a hell lot of fans behind him.

So legends never die, they are forever :)

regards

Mukesh Kumar


#26 of 34 by happyboy on Mon Jan 19 18:54:08 2004:

he didn't create grunge.  the MELVINS did.

no wait, link wray created grunge in the 50's

i liked kurt's music as well, but he basically was
doing what husker du did ten years earlier.


#27 of 34 by greycell on Tue Jan 20 14:33:36 2004:

Hey Guys

Have a look at this:
The mainstays of this rock genre were primarily Seattle-based bands, 
such as Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden and Stone 
Temple Pilots (from San Diego). Nirvana is generally credited for 
breaking the genre into the popular consciousness in 1991 (see 1991 in 
music). The success of Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (off 
Nevermind) surprised the entire music industry. The album was a #1 hit 
around much of the world, and paved the way for more bands, including, 
most popularly, Pearl Jam. For many audiences then and later, grunge 
came to be almost totally associated with these two bands and their 
punky, rebellious attitude towards mainstream mores as well as cultural 
and social institutions. 

The popularity of grunge music was short-lived, however. When Kurt 
Cobain (of Nirvana) committed suicide in April of 1994, grunge music 
effectively began its decline. Ironically, Cobain had often been 
photographed wearing t-shirts stating that "Grunge is Dead". 

Regards

Mukesh


#28 of 34 by happyboy on Wed Jan 21 02:47:45 2004:

re-read resp 26.


#29 of 34 by greycell on Thu Jan 22 10:32:45 2004:

Hi there

I hope so and I have given the evidence for this, if you don't like it 
then nevermind for that.
Finally the truth prevails.

Rgds

Mukesh
:)


#30 of 34 by happyboy on Thu Jan 22 17:11:31 2004:

i ham thanking u fhor this haeving finally
tell the truth of this conspiracies!

rgds rainman!


#31 of 34 by jaklumen on Sat Jan 24 00:28:26 2004:

hahaha


#32 of 34 by greycell on Tue Jan 27 13:09:29 2004:

gotta get out of grex forever, hey i m not bigot...at all.


#33 of 34 by other on Tue Jan 27 15:10:51 2004:

If you have to leave Grex because you can't handle someone disagreeing 
with you, it doesn't reflect poorly on Grex, but it does make you look 
pretty weak.


#34 of 34 by greycell on Tue Sep 14 00:11:26 2004:

Okay guys, I am back on grex after a long halt!


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