The EMINEM item Okay i thought that since their is such a big controversy behind EMINEM, that their should be an item about him. I myself, at first was not a very big EMINEM fan, but within the last year i have grown very close to his music. I think that his latest cd is his best work yet. I'm sure that everyone out there probably has an opinion about EMINEM, and i am interested in knowing what that opinion is. Enter whatever your feelings may be on this subject here whether they are good or bad.51 responses total.
I'm not going to begrudge his talent at all-- I've found his rhymes to be quite catchy. But he is quite the cynical and angry young man, which, well, is nothing new in the biz. Much to his chargrin, too, he is successfully marketed to white middle to lower middle class males, some looking for an excuse to rebel, and a few young women who think he's such a cute bad boy. I'm sure he's looking for strong approval from hip-hop's core fan base, which was originally black and ghetto. Maybe that's why Dr. Dre hasn't left him just yet.
Well jack i'm happy that you don't find his music repulsive.And thanks for responding to this item.
Re #1: If you delved into his history, I think you'd know that he has already earned respect from the "original" black hip hop fan base. As Charles Barkley once said "Who ever thought the best golfer would be black and the best rapper white?"
I salute you cyklone! and thanks for responding to this item.
Charles Barkley? Hmm, I guess I wasn't thinking of him as a representative.. to be honest, I don't doubt he had a strong black fan base to start, but I guess I'm focusing more on "does his current fame really reflect that-- a continuing support and respect?" Whenever I hear Eminem on the street, it's not from some black ghetto dude's ride-- it's some white boy's car. I might be misevaluating this, but it's a pattern. The same thing happened to Vanilla Ice when he hit stardom-- the strong black fan base dwindled, and he went into the white middle class mainstream. Marshall Mathers is actively fighting this, but the fact he talks about it seems to indicate it's still there. btw, Mary, thanks for entering a contemporary item.. I don't have much to add on British Isle folk music elsewhere in the cf ;)
Did Vanilla Ice ever align himself with a group like D12? Eminem raps about his role as a white boy because it's part of the reality of his music world. He can't do anything about it. But my impression is that he has not lost any credibility with non-whites simply because white kids like him too. I know people associated with D12, which is, in part, how I formed that impression. I would be careful about attempting to draw meaningful conclusions from your observations of what you are hearing on the street. How much time do you spend driving around in predominantly black neighborhoods?
The difference between Eminem and Vanilla Ice is that VI never really had any support from or understanding of the black rap culture.
Re #5 it was no problem at all. I was happy to enter this item.
Boy, my foot is tasting good.
Well i had a good experience last night. I had my mom listen to "Hailie's Song" on THE EMINEM SHOW hoping that it might change her opinion of EMINEM even just a little bit. After she listened to the song, she thought he was a good guy as a father anyways.When she heard how passionate/sensitive he was when it came to his daughter i think it changed her mind about him a little bit. I was really happy for that.She's still not that fond of him, except when it comes to being a father because he seems to be really good to his daughter because he helps her in any way that he can and would do anything for her.
i like eminem i relate to eminem if you dont like eminem then dont listen to him theres always contreversy because people like to control other people
I totally agree with sean. Thanks for responding to the item sean!
re11: hey, no way would i want to interfere with your identifying
with M&M. if you want to identify with a cracker-ass-nugget
GO FOR IT!
Well yesterday EMINEM'S "Cleaning out my closet" was at #1 on TRL. Hopefully it will be again today.
Yes! EMINEM's "Cleaning out my closet" was at #1 today on TRL. Way to go EMINEM!
Liking Eminem is a bit like believing in UFO's, I think. Everyone's got their own opinion, and nobody's budging. Most people who don't like him have concrete reasons for it: he's a borderline-psychotic misogynistic self-worshipping wanker. (And don't try to argue with that. In their heart of hearts even the most avid Eminem fans, the ones who claim he's a brilliant artist giving a voice to alienated white America, think he's a borderline-psychotic misogynistic self-worshipping wanker.) Most people who do like him also have concrete reasons for it: he's a clever lyricist, his rhythm's as good as anyone else out there, and he's a real genius at playing around with his fame and reputation. And what I've found is, there's no arguing with the other side. His detractors are sure that hateful lyrics are the root of all evil, and his fans are convinced that bland, sappy music is the root of all evil. There's not much you can do about that sort of disagreement.
But if EminEm was not there, then no one would be able to parody EminEm.
"alienated white america" i may cry now. *sniffle*
pluck that mournful tune on that banjo, man.
/pluch an alienated sounding appalachian riff
Well for those who are interested, Eminem is going to be performing at the MTV Video Music Awards on 8/29.
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couple quick comments - here in the baltimore/dc area we have a number of "black" radio stations for lack of a better word. two of which are pretty "bad", in other words regularly espouse reverse prejudiced comments, not that i'm saying that's a bad thing. it was to my utter surprise that they, along with the two other urban stations, played ALL of eminem's songs off the last album and off the current one, and not just the latest mtv hit but some of the lesser known songs as well. NOT only that but he's number one of those call in shows as well, and i know that 90-95% of the people voting for music on those shows are black. so he's just as popular with the black people as with the white ones, and rightly so since his rhyming is some of the tightest i've ever heard white or black.. also if you get the "slim shady show" dvd, the one with the (i think it's hilarious) cartoon show from the internet collected, one of the bonus features is eminem at a presumably local black club freestyling for an entirely black audience, and they are LOVING it. i really didn't know he was that lvoed/accepted by the black community until i saw that, it's a great thing IMO... (sorrry loved not lvoed) vanilla ice lost his user/fan base simply because he really didn't have the skills enough to keep it, i really don't hink that eminem has that problem and of course the future will tell, but if he manages not to piss off someone to the point he gets shot, i think he'll be around for a long time to come! just my two cents :)
Well thanks alot for responding to this item z0mb13.
So are you going to see the new movie?
yeah actually, the new movie looks pretty interesting, and i'm pretty sure eminem will have a big future in acting (if he wants to pursue it). however i won't pay 8 bucks to see it, i can wait to video. i'll sve my 8 bucks for.. JACKASS! hahahaha
re #25: yeah i do plan on going to see the movie. i don't know if i'll see it opening weekend or if i'll just wait for the movie scene to cool down some so i won't have to wait in line over an hour for a ticket.
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Indeed. This is hardly Star Wars. I'm also definitely interested in seeing the movie at some point. I'm not such a big Eminem fan, but I'm intrigued by the way his career's gone so far, and curious how it'll turn out.
Re #29: True this is hardly Star Wars. But their are alot of EMINEM fans out there. We will just have to wait and see.
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Re #31: In the movie, the little girl is Eminem's character's sister.
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Is the title "8 Mile" in any way a reference to the road in metro Detroit?
Re #34: I'm not sure. Good question though.
Yes.
Well here's an update for all you Eminem fans out there. I guess that Eminem is going to be a special guest on MTV's TRL on friday 11/1/02 @ 3:30.
Sorry to all those who read the above entry. Eminem will be on TRL a week from friday.
Well Eminem's movie 8 mile came out yesterday and i guess i was right in saying that i was going to wait a couple of weeks to go and see the movie because the lines are probably going to be really long to get a ticket. Well i was right in that assumption, because someone that my mom works with went and saw the movie last night and told me that the lines were really long.
I would guess lines would be less of an issue during the week. "8 Mile" took in an estimated $20 million on Friday; it will probably make $50 million for the whole weekend, is my guess.
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The film 8 mile is very anti detroit. But it shows Eminem can be a star and have a number one movie. Which is good cause it gets him money
"8 Mile" made $54.5 million on its opening weekend. Wow.
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Well i'm not quiet sure on this rumor, but i've heard that Eminem has gone back to his wife. If he has, i can't imagine why except maybe for the sake of his daughter.
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Because it wasn't working out.
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Yes. Details?
please, no.
oh, sometimes loving the dirt is a guilty pleasure.
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