hey all you nirvana fans just rock in...and cherish the memories of the glorious grunge legend nirvana...and talk about "kust cobain" may his soul rest in peace... so see you guys.... bye bye36 responses total.
polly wants a cracker... think i should getof her first... what do you think polly is... ....trance grunges......
dear trance... here polly refers to a parrot i suppose.... bye bye grunge rules....till now.....
Heh, "grunge" was said to be the last gasp of progressive rock (started in the 70s) in a number of ways.
I never quite saw the link (other than geographical) between the various bands labelled "grunge". Perhaps it's just that I liked Nirvana but detested Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, and Alice in Chains.. Anyway, it really was unfortunate that Cobain's suicide cut short the group's career. The posthumously released "Unplugged" album is really a wonderful performance..
RE #3: How in the world do you get to grunge from 70s prog-rock?!?
I didn't quite understand that leap either..
an obscure article that I can't remember correctly. Sue me.
So do you remember the "number of ways" mentioned in the article?
what is the difference between punk and grunge ? Charles Aaron commenting on Nirvana : "Because we don't believe in God, because we don't believe in politics, because some of us come from less-than-ideal families, we insist on indulging in a warped, presumptuous romanticism of pop-culture figures that is unfair, unsatisfying and destructive. And we never wise up. The most vivid image I have of Cobain is from the last Nirvana show I saw, in November of '93 at New York's Roseland. On a big stage, bare except for wiry red roses poking up here and there, he stood stoically before a sold-out moshing mob, singing song after song,sounding better than ever, but looking totally defeated. The room became a free-for-all as the band played "Smells Like Teen Spirit", and a barrage of debris flew toward the stage--bottles, boots, flannel shirts.Cobain never flinched, screaming as if locked in a trance, a professional punk, going through the motions because we wanted him to. The barrier between performer and audience was like a Berlin Wall; he must've felt like an idiot for ever trying to jump over. We were lucky to have him for as long as we did. " (SPIN,december 1994)
hey trance .... don't show us others opinions just tell us about ur thoughts about it.....
hey aeroforceone, i am not so much deep into grunge...so i can hardly comment on it. but then don't worry i will not make similar remarks when it comes to aerosmith.in fact he not worth it...lemme see if it makes you pink!
dear trance code...... there is no doubt that i like aerosmith very much but at that same time i do listen to other bands.... and in grunge i like nirvana very much.... so try to post comments don't think about others.... all people may not appreciate you that does not mean you should................................... --------->>>
So can either of you explain the prog-rock/grunge connection?
hey cyklone.... det it know.... Grunge is a brand of music combining the deep riffs, with angry, and sometimes depressing lyrics. The music started off as an anti-thesis to the popular music scene of the time, and soon formed a niche of it's own. It was immensely popular among the youth at the time, as it seemed to resonate with their own feelings of insecurity, and loneliness. -------->>>>af1
the gist was that grunge wasn't anything new, but was the last of of a trend in rock: note that a lot of new rock acts are fusing into hip-hop a lot. I don't know, and I can't remember. Let's just say that the punk-to-grunge was an evolution of The Angry Young Man.
I am surprised that I like Everclear. One that I would say has fused hip-hop with rock and pop Musik. Discusss.
#15 -> punk/grunge was one of the trends of rock. can anyone name the other trends or metamorphosis that rock has undergone ?
i am coming to this discussion after a long time but i have a serious issue to discuss with all you people....who are fan of nirvana and infact kurt cobain... many times i had read that it was courtney love...who killed kurt cobain.....directly or indirectly... i mean some folks say she hired a man to kill her husband for $50,000 and some say she tortured him in a way that he killed himself and had a heavy dose of heroin but when an electrician found the dead body of kurt cobain....and doctors did autopsy they told that after haing such a high dose of heroine one can't pic the gun and shoot himself also one can't even write the letter...so what was the reason for the death of kurt cobain... also after criminal investigation they found that there was not even a single finger print on the gun ..... so it seems to be a mystery for me atleast...cause i always get the information through internet and fansites... so if anyone can put some light on this issue ....i will feel blessed ........... being a discussion forum at grex i think people will tell the truth only.... so please.... any of nirvana fan who knows the truth... can tell it to me... mukesh...butail...india....
It's hard to completely disprove many conspiracy theories but there doesn't seem to be much evidence for the far-fetched stories surrounding Cobain's death. I believe the stories aren't credible and were made up by fans who, for whatever reason, bitterly hate Courtney Love. I've found many of the things people have written about her pretty shocking -- not because I believe them to be true but because they reveal a frightening level of hatred towards her.
yeah...mike thats true ... but i have gone through man internet database and found that it was courtney love who killed our beloved grunge legend "kurt cobain" but nevermind he will be in our hearts forever and god bless her only kid....ms fraces cobain... and his songs will never fade.... but grunge is dead and it won't be same as it was in 90s may his soul rest in peace but someday god will surely tell us all the truth... amen.... mukesh
You can be pretty fucked up on heroin and still have moments of sufficient lucidity to shoot yourself.
hey purist.... what u said is true but u may not be knowing the real story he took three times the dose of heroin....and i think according to doctors...at that state of mind and body one can not fold his sleeves and put his pen and syringe far away in the box and shoot himself.... that much drug is enough to kill someone so better know the story my dear see yeah
I'm only extrapolating from what I DO know.
but u should not make such statements either... what u say now go on
Fatal doses of most drugs vary widely, and addicts can build up an enormous tolerance to their drug of choice. Just as a heavy drinker might still be standing after drinking enough alcohol to put you or me in the hospital, Cobain could well have been able to shoot a gun with enough heroin in him to kill a novice user. Now I'm not saying he did kill himself, and I'm not saying he didn't. I'm saying either possibility's consistent with the evidence you've given.
#24: Which statements shouldn't I make, and why shouldn't I make them?
hey orinoco.... here are the few excerpts from the report of a doctor roger lewis... so that will make clear the cause of kurt cobain's death... 1..TRIPLE MAXIMUM LETHAL DOSE EVEN FOR SEVERE ADDICTS: At least three days after his death, Kurt Cobain's blood contained 1.52 milligrams of morphine per litre (mg/L) plus traces of a "diazepam-like" substance. This level is widely known to represent three times the lethal dose of heroin, but it is not commonly understood that this level is three times the lethal dose even for severe heroin addicts. Generally, a blood morphine level of 0.5mg/L is caused by 75 mg - 80 mg of heroin, the established maximum lethal dose, even for severe addicts. A blood level of 1.52 mg/L generally indicates an original dose of approximately 225 mg - 240 mg of heroin. 2..INCAPACITATED OR DEAD BEFORE GUNSHOT: Large overdoses of heroin by heroin addicts are a phenomenon which is well understood. Research clearly shows that an overdose in the range of that received by Cobain would lead to immediate and complete incapacitation and/or immediate death. 3.. OTHER FACTORS ENSURED OVERDOSE LETHALITY: The 1.52 mg/L blood morphine level does not compensate for the presence of diazepam, or Cobain's low body weight, both of which are well proven to substantially increase the lethality of the heroin. 4..CASE UNPARALLELED IN SUICIDE & OVERDOSE REPORTS: A review of 3586 suicides, including 760 violent suicides, shows no case involving both a gun and narcotic overdose of any kind, supporting theories regarding the absence or extreme rarity of violent suicide among addicts. 5..CASE CONSISTENT WITH HOMICIDE PATTERNS: A review of cases involving homicides shows many similarities with patterns in the Cobain case. 6..OTHER EVIDENCE INDICATES HOMICIDE: Officially acknowledged evidence exists which indicates the possibility of homicide, including a misleading missing persons report, postmortem credit card usage, handwriting discrepancies on the "suicide" note, and the lack of legible fingerprints on the weapon. It appears the police were prejudicially in favour of a suicide ruling, and that the coroner was involved in a conflict of interest predisposing him towards this major discrepancy in the evaluation of his findings. 7..CONCLUSION: HOMICIDE: The evidence indicates that a massive intravenous dose of heroin, and possibly a benzodiazepine, was administered to Cobain. The final of the two known injections incapacitated and/or killed Cobain, and the gunshot is evidence of a homicide staged to look like a suicide. The case should be re-opened by an independent investigatory body. and this one....--->>>>>>>>>>>> only for ur comment....my dear...orinoco.--->> TOLERANCE HAS A WELL DEFINED LIMIT The fact that there is "higher tolerance among addicts" is commonly misunderstood. This concept is evoked apparently as an attempt to describe how it could be remotely possible that Cobain was alive and functioning well enough to fire a shotgun, despite the otherwise triple maximum lethal dose. The "1.52 mg" figure refers specifically to the morphine per litre of blood. No doubt exists that a blood level of 1.52 mg of morphine per litre represents just a little bit over three times the maximum lethal dose, but the implications of this fact are not well understood. .... ============= so i think its a bit clear from this information that kurt did not commit suicide but he was "murdered" by the bitch named.....courtney love.... and i am praying to god that reserve a hot seat in hell for that bitch...amen.... ------->>>>>> keep on posting.... just shoot them... bye bye waiting..........mukesh.......
Why bring in the shotgun to make it look like a suicide if he'd already been given such a clearly lethal dose? Such a massive overdose would already look like either suicide or a drug-addled fuckup.
hey orinoco by this time you should be able to understand the whole story but u r not....... it clearly states that he was very much troubled by his wife.. and he buoght the gun for his safety.... but even i don't know why he took such a high lethal dose... i can't explain it my dear... bye --->>>mukesh
jeeze, sounds like someone got ahold of a copy of "kurt & courtney" *lol* he started writing the note--booted up--finished the note and sucked on the barrel. prolly. deal with it, he did a total asshole thing to his friends and family (especially his poor kid who is stuck with a borderline-beast of a mom...she'll be a mess). he shot the wrong person.
hey happyboy......u don't seem to be happy at all seems someone had.....kicked ur ass badly hahahaha
i'm pretty happy & no one has kicked my ass recently. so *ur* dumb and *ur* wrong.
so surrealist..thats all you have to mention... cya
a piglet tree just floated past my broomhandle on the wigglin wing of a happy blue fish!
hey really didn't get you this time... so try to explain ur this statement or verdict... cya regards mukesh :)
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