Grex Music3 Conference

Item 106: The Continuation of the Top Of the Park item

Entered by ea on Sat Jun 22 17:04:06 2002:

It seems like it's becoming a bit of a tradition ... someone (usually 
krj if memory serves correctly) starts the TOP item in Spring Agora, and 
then it gets continued into Summer Agora.  Talk about the music you 
listened to, the movies you watched, and the grexers you talked to, 
along with anything else TOP related.
77 responses total.

#1 of 77 by ea on Sat Jun 22 17:04:53 2002:

A reminder, for those of you who haven't memorized the schedule 
(probably most of us, I would imagine), the TOP schedule can be found by 
going to www.mlive.com/aasf and clicking on the "Top of the Park" link.


#2 of 77 by grimaldi on Sun Jun 23 04:10:12 2002:

Expect to see the Grimmy haunting TOP sometime this coming week.. :) Sadly
I'm missing the Rockapella concert tomorrow.. <growls>


#3 of 77 by other on Sun Jun 23 05:36:43 2002:

Tonight featured the Terraplanes and the Bugs Beddow Band.  The house 
rocked all evening!

I spotted bruin and scott, if I saw anyone else and am forgetting to 
report it, forgive me.  I don't usually make a habit of reporting grexer 
sightings at TOP because it would keep me more busy than I'd like to be 
doing that.


#4 of 77 by danr on Sun Jun 23 11:55:20 2002:

Silvia and I were at TOP last night, and the music was indeed great. 
I'd never heard the Bugs Beddow Band before, and they really were 
awesome.


#5 of 77 by krj on Sun Jun 23 16:20:23 2002:

   (((  Summer Agora #10  <--->  Music #102  )))


#6 of 77 by tsty on Mon Jun 24 03:50:51 2002:

the night before bugs and terraplanes, the witchdoctors kicked
out some nice jams .....   i didn't catch the name of the woman
who opened the evening. maybe other can enter that. whomever she
was , she was rally good, too.
  


#7 of 77 by senna on Mon Jun 24 05:49:14 2002:

Ah, TOP, the dwindling grex tradition.  I think I've been at half of them so
far, and at least a few appearances are just because I want to see something.
Intermission during the Reduced Shakes Company show, for example.


#8 of 77 by other on Mon Jun 24 06:03:26 2002:

The Witch Doctors were preceded onstage by Jo Serrapere and the Willie 
Dunns.  (That was Thursday, two nights before Terraplanes & Bugs Beddow.)


#9 of 77 by krj on Mon Jun 24 17:53:26 2002:

Jo Serrapere gets two nights at Top of the Park this year.  
Unfortunately I had to miss her night with the Willie Dunns, but 
I'm going to do everything possible NOT to miss her July 2nd 
date with her country/bluegrass/oldtime band Uncle Earl, which 
also includes singer K.C. Groves.   Uncle Earl's show at the Ark
this spring was quite good, and I'm working to twist some arms 
to get some of you out for their TOP show.
 
-----

Sunday night's show by The Raisin Pickers (named for the Raisin River 
which flows through their town, I think) was OK, but I wish they did
more old songs and fewer new ones.  TOP certainly is a dwindling 
Grex tradition: the only Grexers I saw were other, scg, and (briefly)
dewshine.   I'm probably skipping tonight's movie, though it is 
a fun one -- SHANGHAI NOON, Jackie Chan's western -- and I expect
to be there for LEGALLY BLONDE on Tuesday.


#10 of 77 by scott on Mon Jun 24 18:59:00 2002:

I'm looking forward to tonight; both Funktelligence and Shanghai Noon.  


#11 of 77 by senna on Mon Jun 24 23:32:18 2002:

SCG is in town?  

I'm going to be there shortly.  It's Orange night at TOP, and everybody who's
ever seen me in it knows (and fears) what that means.


#12 of 77 by eskarina on Tue Jun 25 00:29:58 2002:

I'm definitely scared.


#13 of 77 by ea on Tue Jun 25 03:32:24 2002:

(translation of #11: senna looks like our beloved State Tree, the orange 
traffic cone, tonight)


#14 of 77 by scott on Tue Jun 25 04:12:44 2002:

Anyway, I spotted senna, scg, other, janc, and one Grexer who I barely
recognized and couldn't come up with a name for.  Oh, and also biohazar.


#15 of 77 by scg on Tue Jun 25 04:35:59 2002:

(yes, scg is in town)


#16 of 77 by carson on Tue Jun 25 07:53:51 2002:

(...presumably for the CHS reunion this past weekend.)


#17 of 77 by eskarina on Tue Jun 25 22:43:04 2002:

How long is scg in town for?


#18 of 77 by orinoco on Wed Jun 26 00:07:58 2002:

(er, "this past weekend?"  Bugger.)


#19 of 77 by krj on Wed Jun 26 04:00:06 2002:

Buddy and I went to TOP around 9:30 in the hopes that the rain 
might let up and that the movie LEGALLY BLONDE might be screened.
However, the evening had been called off.  We chatted with 
Eric/other a bit; he said the first band had gotten its set in 
tonight, but that the second band never took the stage due to the 
rain.


#20 of 77 by carson on Wed Jun 26 04:59:30 2002:

(that's a true shame.  "Legally Blonde" was one of my favorite
movies last summer.  I suppose the plus is that I didn't miss it
at TOP after all.)


#21 of 77 by scg on Wed Jun 26 05:46:30 2002:

re 17:
        I'll be here until Thursday morning.


#22 of 77 by cmcgee on Wed Jun 26 15:27:55 2002:

I spotted other under the parking lot deck about 8 oclock, but left when it
became clear they were putting the monitors away for good.  Then it rained.
Hard.


#23 of 77 by twinkie on Wed Jun 26 18:24:40 2002:

I saw a couple Grexers at TOP on Monday, but I didn't remember their names.
Otherwise, I would have said "Hello." 

So...if any of you saw me there with my sister and said "Goodness, twinkie
is rude in person, as well!" please don't take offense. :)



#24 of 77 by other on Wed Jun 26 19:06:25 2002:

Hmm.  You didn't come and say hello to me.  I'm easy to find at TOP.  I'm 
the guy who spends the most time on stage without actually making any 
music.  Plus, I wear a tag around my neck with my name on it.

I'm usually weearing my "Discovery Wings Channel" basebal cap, to keep 
the sun out of my eyes, or in yesterday's case, to keep the rain out of 
my eyes.


#25 of 77 by orinoco on Wed Jun 26 19:46:17 2002:

Sure enough, spotted scg just five or ten minutes ago.


#26 of 77 by jaklumen on Thu Jun 27 05:49:02 2002:

resp:24  Yeah, I've been to TOP but once, and Eric is indeed easy to 
find.


#27 of 77 by ea on Sat Jun 29 00:52:19 2002:

Spotted very very few grexers last night.  In fact, the only grexer I 
spotted was other.


#28 of 77 by scott on Sat Jun 29 02:57:58 2002:

Spotted other, who gave me a free ticket to the Nnenna Freelon concert inside.
Thanks, Eric!


#29 of 77 by other on Sat Jun 29 05:52:29 2002:

Glad to provide.  You were the only 'likely candidate' I saw tonight.
The show wasn't selling very well, so they had a few tickets available to 
persons deemed likely to enjoy the show but unlikely to have purchased 
tickets to it.


#30 of 77 by krj on Tue Jul 2 16:25:32 2002:

Tonight!  8:15 pm at Top of the Park, the Ann Arbor-based bluegrass/oldtime
band Uncle Earl, an all-woman band with Jo Serrapere and KC Groves on 
lead vocals, Tamineh Guarmany on fiddle, and -- if we're lucky -- 
the same part-time members on banjo and bass who played with the 
band in February for that great show at the Ark.
 
I came back from my Maryland trip a day early so I wouldn't miss 
this show. 


#31 of 77 by carson on Tue Jul 2 19:59:19 2002:

(also tonight is the Heidi Snyder Band, which I had the pleasure of seeing
perform two years ago.  [coincidentally, that was my last time at TOP.])


#32 of 77 by senna on Tue Jul 2 22:30:30 2002:

I think I'll head over a bit early.


#33 of 77 by ea on Wed Jul 3 04:20:35 2002:

Spotted other, krj, senna, buddy, STeve, and glenda at TOP tonight.


#34 of 77 by glenda on Wed Jul 3 11:38:58 2002:

You forgot aruba and carol.  I spotted the same list as above (except for me)
but was planning on meeting up with krj, STeve, and buddy.


#35 of 77 by ea on Wed Jul 3 14:18:27 2002:

indeed, I forgot to mention aruba and carol.  Apologies to Mark and 
Carol.


#36 of 77 by other on Wed Jul 3 18:07:56 2002:

phenix showed up as well


#37 of 77 by krj on Wed Jul 3 18:38:10 2002:

Thanks to everyone who turned out on my recommendation.  Uncle Earl's
set seemed a bit rough to me, with rhythms and tunings being a little
off and tempos a bit slow, though it came together better at the end
of the evening.  For their last song before the encore they brought
up someone named Vita (from the Jeff-Vita Band) who had a really good song.
 
Since Uncle Earl's last Ann Arbor show at the Ark, banjo player 
Casey Henry seems to be taking a larger role, including some lead 
vocals.  
 
Mary/buddy convinced Steve and I to stay for the movie, THE OTHERS.
It was a very classy haunted-house movie with one wonderful moment 
when everyone in the audience jumped.


#38 of 77 by scott on Thu Jul 4 04:22:05 2002:

Spotted ea, other, senna, and aruba.  


#39 of 77 by krj on Thu Jul 4 07:07:10 2002:

buddy and I showed up after it was too dark for spotting or being spotted.


#40 of 77 by krj on Thu Jul 4 17:48:51 2002:

(( NP:  The Red Elvises "Live" CD, in honor of their appearance at 
   TOP two years ago today. ))


#41 of 77 by krj on Sat Jul 6 19:10:49 2002:

I've talked to a couple of people who were under the impression
that they had another week or two to make it to Top of the Park.
Oops!  These are the final two days.   Saturday night is three
bands I know nothing about:  Kevin Meisel Band, Charlie Dentel
and the Motor City Horns, and Roots Vibrations.

Sunday night, George Bedard and the Kingpins get their traditional
closing night spot -- they are a lively rockabilly band, lots 
of fun.  And the final movie is "O Brother Where Art Thou,"
which the director now jokes is the music video for the
quintuple-platinum CD of the soundtrack.


#42 of 77 by jmsaul on Sat Jul 6 19:57:57 2002:

That's a great movie.


#43 of 77 by arabella on Sun Jul 7 00:42:55 2002:

Ken, you've met Charlie Dentel.  I've sung with him in choirs.



#44 of 77 by gelinas on Sun Jul 7 04:05:29 2002:

I might miss George Bedard, but I expect to be at the movie, with my
entourage.


#45 of 77 by other on Sun Jul 7 07:20:52 2002:

Kevin Meisel wrote and sang probably the only country song I've ever 
heard with the word "jurisprudence" in it.  Interestingly also, they 
covered "Sweet Jane" by Lou Reed.

Charlie Dentel is a singer/songwriter/keyboardist, with great musical 
skill and very good entertainment instincts.  R&B.

Roots Vibration is a calypso/reggae band.  Also excellent entertainers, 
and very professional, they are a class above "Nite Flight," who have 
been the reggae band at TOP in recent years.


#46 of 77 by krj on Sun Jul 7 20:03:58 2002:

Catching up briefly:  Thursday our dinner with the Polygon family 
ran a bit late so we missed almost all the patriotic music.  
The women's percussion band Repercussions, and their guest dancers,
were a lot of fun -- seems to me I remember them from previous
years.  Grexers & associates spotted, besides the Polygon family,
included jmsaul & Lisa, stacie, and of course eric/other.
 
Saturday my other social plans were cut abruptly short, so I ended 
up at TOP for Charlie Dentel's set.  He's got a nice 70's R&B/soul
sound going; Charlie plays piano, and he's got a horn section
behind him.  The one cover I recognized was a Stevie Wonder song, 
though most of what he plays is originals.
 
I agree with Eric that Roots Vibration was better than the reggae
band from previous years; I stayed for about half of their set
and might have stayed longer if I'd found anyone besides Eric
who I knew.


#47 of 77 by carson on Mon Jul 8 04:10:51 2002:

(I have rather not nice things to say about "The Others", but I suppose
I should save them for another item.)

(another year, another missed TOP.  maybe I'll make it next year?)


#48 of 77 by krj on Mon Jul 8 04:29:49 2002:

<krj wonders what not nice things Carson has to say.>
 
So the season went out in spectacular fashion tonight.  George Bedard's
band added keyboard player Whit Hill for the occasion, and the 
organ and piano lines were a great addition to the sound.  
I resisted buying any of George Bedard's CDs, because I'm not sure
they can be anywhere close to as much fun as the band is live.

O BROTHER was even more enjoyable tonight than the first time 
I saw it, because the crowd was really into the film; I previously
saw it in a mostly-empty theater.
 
Stucci's ran out of French Silk (chocolate) ice cream, and I never
did get that cheese pie I wanted.    *sniff*   Still, this was one
of the most enjoyable TOP nights I can recall, and I tossed more money
into the Obelisk and the TOP fund-raising hat than I had planned to.  :)
 
Grexers and associates spotted:  buddy, russ, aruba, Carol, 
gelinas, Cindy, a number of younger Gelinases, senna,
and other.


#49 of 77 by gelinas on Mon Jul 8 04:48:29 2002:

(One of those "younger Gelinases" wasn't; he was a friend.)

I didn't see russ or other tonight.  Otherwise, substitute "krj" for
"gelinas" in the list preceding. :)


#50 of 77 by jaklumen on Mon Jul 8 06:42:51 2002:

are you saying, then, Ken, that "O Brother.." is best viewed with an 
audience?  Quite a few of the movies I've enjoyed were in virtually 
empty theatres..


#51 of 77 by other on Mon Jul 8 07:18:06 2002:

Correction:  Whit Hill is Al Hill's wife, a fine musician and dancer/
choreographer in her own right -- formerly known as Whitley Setrakian.  
The keyboardist sitting in with the Kingpins was Al Hill.


#52 of 77 by brighn on Mon Jul 8 13:23:31 2002:

#50> "O Brother" does strike me as the sort of movie I'd enjoy more with a
crowd. There are definitely movies where you want to see the movie, and any
interruptions from the audience are a distraction; there are other movies that
are weak on their own, and stand better as interactional experiences. I think
the latter are usually movies that don't take themselves too seriously, and
"O Brother" is definitely one of those.


#53 of 77 by orinoco on Mon Jul 8 15:07:41 2002:

The audience's reactions were interesting.  The scene at the KKK rally is a
pretty minor plot point -- ho hum, yet another death-defying escape -- but
it got a much bigger round of applause than anything else.  I suppose this
is Ann Arbor, after all...


#54 of 77 by dbratman on Mon Jul 8 16:39:05 2002:

I liked "O Brother" as a movie; I liked the music _in_ the movie.  But 
when I listened to the soundtrack album I didn't like it particularly 
at all.  I think the visuals were a large part of the enjoyment.


#55 of 77 by mcnally on Mon Jul 8 17:28:57 2002:

  I tend to agree.  I should be wild about the "O Brother" soundtrack --
  I like that kind of music in general and have a number of full-length
  recordings from several of the contributors that I really like.  But
  for whatever reason the soundtrack doesn't do much for me, except in
  conjunction with the film.



#56 of 77 by gelinas on Tue Jul 9 01:11:11 2002:

I put the soundtrack on today, to listen to while tooling around town (when
not listening to the news, that is).  My memory for such things isn't very
good, but I *think* it's in a slightly different order than the movie.  I'm
going to have to see the movie again, just to check.  (Of course, we've
already put it on the "must buy" list, just because we liked it.)

Listening to the soundtrack, I figured out why "You are my sunshine" was in
it, where it was.  And "Big Rock Candy Mountains."


#57 of 77 by carson on Thu Jul 11 21:06:36 2002:

re #48:  (if you look at a good majority of the shots, near the top of
          the screen, boom mics are *clearly* visible.  when I saw the
          movie in theatres, my enjoyment came from spotting the mics.)

         (simply put, the production was sloppy.)


#58 of 77 by micklpkl on Fri Jul 12 14:29:15 2002:

re resp:48 & resp:57 - I saw this, too, carson! (and I thought I was
the only one) It was very distracting --- for the first half of the movie, I
was wondering if showing the mics and booms was intentional and/or related to
the plot, at all. Finally, I had just decided that it was the sub-standard
theatre in which I had seen the movie. Very, very sloppy.


#59 of 77 by carson on Fri Jul 12 17:30:28 2002:

(I have a conspiracy theory about the whole thing:  "The Others" was
executively produced by Tom Cruise, who *just* happened to be in the
midst of divorcing the movie's star, Nicole Kidman, when the movie
was released to theatres.  you do the math.)


#60 of 77 by polytarp on Sat Jul 13 22:34:56 2002:

Where's a "Grexpidition" item devoted to oval and her trip?


#61 of 77 by carson on Sat Jul 13 22:47:36 2002:

("Grexpedition."  the word is a contraction of "Grex" and "expedition.")

(you might ask oval, btw.)


#62 of 77 by polytarp on Sat Jul 13 23:45:39 2002:

What the hell are you talking about?  Do you think I'm a total idiot?  Answer
the questions, not stupid things which I'm not sure where you got them from.


#63 of 77 by carson on Sun Jul 14 01:03:15 2002:

(see first sentence.  nearly.  no.)


#64 of 77 by mdw on Sun Jul 14 06:08:26 2002:

I think polytarp was looking for the "grex perdition" item on oval's
travels, which might detail her experience with customs, amsterdam
police, her opinions regarding the dutch sex trade, any unsuccessful
efforts to fight off polyglot beggars, etc.

I don't know that oval's actual dutch experiences are anywhere near as
colorful or likely to be at all interesting to polytarp.


#65 of 77 by oval on Sun Jul 14 10:13:41 2002:

'anywhere near as .....?)

okay this is the second post that seems to be cut off for me, and i'm
wondering if it's this damn stoned M$ pos i'm using.



#66 of 77 by carson on Sun Jul 14 16:54:46 2002:

(I vote "yea."  I suspect there's a terminal setting you could put
in a file somewhere to correct it, but heck if I know what either is.)

<blank space below for oval's benefit>







#67 of 77 by oval on Mon Jul 15 14:23:47 2002:

lol thanks. i've retreated back to backtalk...


#68 of 77 by other on Tue Jul 16 16:30:57 2002:

Well, hopefully, by the end of this week, TOP will be done for another 
year.  We're still wrangling with storage issues.  Actually, though, I've 
been asked to sit in on the periodic meetings of the Summer Festival 
board's Operations Committee, since I seem to best equipped of all 
available people to provide the board some measure of depth and meaning 
to the numbers they shuffle around.


#69 of 77 by jaklumen on Wed Jul 17 01:21:08 2002:

resp:65 HyperTerminal probs?


#70 of 77 by dbratman on Wed Jul 31 00:49:29 2002:

carson wrote: "if you look at a good majority of the shots, near the 
top of the screen, boom mics are *clearly* visible."

If you see boom mikes in a theatrical film, chances are overwhelming 
that the projector wasn't centered properly.  The sloppiness isn't on 
the part of the filmmaker, but on the part of the theatre.  It's 
regular practice to photograph films taller than they're intended to be 
shown (and thus including the booms), and have the projector grate cut 
off the part you're not supposed to see.

So sayeth Ebert.


#71 of 77 by carson on Wed Jul 31 01:09:32 2002:

(hmm.  does that explain the network television premiere of Rounders?
boom mics were clearly visible there, too.)

([fwiw, _Washington Post_ film critic Desson Howe agrees that if boom mics
are visible in a shot, it's the theatre's fault.  I'm just not ready to
accept that as 100% true in all cases.])


#72 of 77 by brighn on Wed Jul 31 02:08:44 2002:

The TV screen is at a different ratio. Obviously, if the boom mike is visible
there, it's because whoever transferred it into pan-and-scan messed up...
presumably somehow related to the film distribution company.


#73 of 77 by gelinas on Wed Jul 31 03:05:58 2002:

I've heard that movies are now shot in an aspect suitable for television, with
excess background at the top and bottom to be cropped for wide-screen.


#74 of 77 by carson on Wed Jul 31 03:33:06 2002:

(you know, you guys are REALLY screwing up my "`The Others' was sloppily
produced because it was executively produced by Tom Cruise, who wanted to
ruin his [at the time soon-to-be] ex-wife, Nicole Kidman's, movie career
as spectacularly as possible" conspiracy theory.)


#75 of 77 by brighn on Wed Jul 31 04:01:40 2002:

You're just perpetuating the stereotype that gay men are vindictive and catty.


#76 of 77 by carson on Wed Jul 31 04:08:17 2002:

(heh.)


#77 of 77 by orinoco on Sat Aug 3 01:57:26 2002:

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