mynxcat Jan 10 19:26:04 2004 S M mynxcat Jan 10 19:26:04 2004 S M mynxcat J mynxcat Jan 10 19:26:04 2004 S M mynxcat Jan 10 19:26:04 2004 S M mynxcat J mynxcat Jan 10 19:26:04 2004 S M mynxcat Jan 10 19:26:04 2004 S M mynxcat J mynxcat Jan 10 19:26:04 2004 S M mynxcat Jan 10 19:26:04 2004 S M mynxcat J mynxcat Jan 10 19:26:04 2004 S M mynxcat Jan 10 19:26:04 2004 S M mynxc40 responses total.
heh...cool im the first one to respond.. :). Techno music for me is like a total creativity of sound with technology. It has every emotion involved in it, and thats different from other types of music because of that. As far as style house and trance are my favorites. One thing i think that is interesting about it is that when it first caught on the whole idea behind it was anti-club. Raves were a place for people to go that didn't like the mainstream stlyes, rock and hip hop mostly. Of course raves are known for drug use, but any kind of party with music has that, so that shouldn't be an issue. The first ever 'techno' recording came out in the late 70s from europe and was actually called acid house. These people rented a recording studio for like 3 days and locked themselves in and produced it. If you are really curious about learning about techno music there is a DVD called Better Music Though Technology. It's a great video and covers all aspects of the music. artists....Paul Oakenfold, Carl Cox, Prodigy, Paul Van Dyk, Aphex Twin (which is an aquired taste), Bad Boy Bill, DJ Fade, Acid Tech, oh man there is a ton.....
umm...that DVD could be called Better Living Through Technology, btw.
resp:0 Nope, you're wrong. See item:50. This is not the first time this has happened in the music conf, however.
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I did a little techno clubbing back in 1992. Perhaps to define things, perhaps this item could be about the club culture surrounding this kind of music, while item:50 could be more of a guide to the listener, e.g., those looking to become acquainted.
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Well mynx, it seems like you're trying to get an idea of how to find techno that you like, so i'll answer your original question and that one too. My favorite genres are Detroit techno (Derrick May, Carl Craig, kid606, Mike Dykehouse), Braindance (Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, Wagonchrist), Gabber (Doormouse, Delta 9), and occasionally trancecore (Tilz, Brisk). I know someone might take exception to me calling kid606 and Dykehouse "Detroit techno", but i think of them as the new wave of Detroit's electronic musicians. Also Brisk rarely makes trancecore, he's usually just happycore, which i can't stand. Now, the way i got into all this music was really just by hanging out with other people who listen to a lot of techno (especially DJs), and playing stuff for each other. Going to raves and clubs is a good way to have fun, but i've never discovered wonderful new artists there whose CDs i'd want to buy there (unless i was talking to someone there about music). I might certainly find a DJ i'd want to see again, but most DJs don't make CDs, and are purely performance artists. And those that do make CDs usually don't make great CDs. Hearing a set live is much, much different than getting that same set on CD. Another good way to find music is to go to a record store where they let you listen to the music. Encore on Liberty is great for this, but you have to have some idea of what you're looking for, cause 99.9% of their techno section is utter crap. Record Exchange on South U will usually let you listen to stuff if you bring your discman, but you have to ask nicely. Hope this helps.
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See, 'cause some techno music makes you go like, asFDAasSSASASASASASASASAASASSNDFHHHHHJJHHJHJHJHJHJHHJHJJHJHHUUH7UHHUHUHHUHUUHH UUJU, while other makes you go less "asssaswwqqwwwqw" than that.
re: 8 i have to agree that happycore is stupid, and clubs are good for hearong the music but not listening to it. I put in techno to headphones all the time to really listen to it. And in the right 'frame of mind', small parties with friends at houses and such always seemed the best way to enjoy techno music, better atmosphere to enjoy the music and be comfortable if you are E'd up. the first time i ever listenend to techno was at a house party in Inkster, and it happened to be the first time I tried E....and i was hooked...the music of course, i dont use E anymore, but i still love the music......
During the short time at the start of the year when I went clubbing more often, it got to the point where I'd recognize a lot of tracks, and I'd have my favorites, but I still didn't know what artists I liked. It's hard enough figuring who does that one song you keep hearing on the radio. It's damn near impossible to figure out who made a techno track, unless you go clubbing with someone who already knows that sort of thing and buys the new records as they come out. I think I'd be much more of an active techno fan if it weren't like that.
resp:8 and resp:11 So what the hell is happycore? resp:7 Go back and look.. it's going to take some persuasion. resp:11 hmmm.. I must have been totally in the wrong frame of mind. I experienced techno at an actual club. The "rave" I went to was pretty intense-- the club had disco balls, moving blue lights, black lights, TV screens and a smoke machine already, but they added a professional laser light show, overhead projector cartoons, a new Bose system with wicked bass. Y'see, though drugs have been muy, muy tempting-- in an atmosphere like that, I'd rather just be naturally juiced up. See, at the time, I was untreated for manic-depressive.. uh, never mind =) but really, I think X and other club drugs are just bad juju. resp:12 Yeah, I totally understand that-- sometimes it's taking a risk, I guess. See item:50 again. You just buy a compilation track and hope it's good, but yeah, that's generally not the big way to go. When MTV did amp, that was helpful, but they killed the show.
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I doubt it. MTV was trying to spark interest by showing connections between hip-hop and techno, which very well may have been: Techno was developed in Detroit (I fail to remember where this was mentioned in the previous music cf, and who said it), and the Motor City also developed the hip-hop sound in the States quite a bit. The show was playing Run-DMC and some other early hip-hop when they weren't doing other techno like the Chemical Brothers or what have you. I don't know about VH1-- it's part of the original MTV Networks and is part of Viacom (Nickelodeon is a part, too-- it was a little Canadian station sucked up into MTV Networks in the early days of cable). It will depend largely on when the youth market drops the genre (i.e. the Millenials/Gen Y) and when the young adult/middle-age market decides they must keep it (i.e., Generation X).
re: 13 Clubs are a great place to listen to it, and depending where you are, the better the place to do it. There are clubs the music, and then there are clubs for hooking up. You can hook up with someone at any club, but some places emphasize a 'rave' experience more than others. There are places also that are techno but extacy just wouldnt work, others do. Also, if you have comcast, the dance and origens music channels are a good place to start to listen and find a few songs in techno you like, write it down , and then research on other songs or cds by that artist, or look for mix and compilation cds that have that song, i found two cds lately that way, and they are relly good techno. Easy way to find new music at home while cooking on the grill or something while looking for some new music. and then dare i say it...sex, extacy, and the right techno music, heh. that could be a whole new topic item in itself.
Noo. I'm sure X is ultimately bad juju.
Heh. I've got to put in my two cents here. I'm a drum and bass DJ out of Fayetteville, AR. You guys can listen to what I do at http://www.djjonny290.com - (lynx friendly :)). Anyways, i'm pretty much totally immersed in electronic music. Current styles and DJ's i'm into: Any drum and bass, really. US stuff is getting better every day. Detroit stuff is neat. Richie Hawtin is amazing. So's Carl Cox. IDM is my closet passion - i'll put on my Squarepusher vinyl when I feel like going nuts, hehe. And drugs are bad at parties, mmmkay? heh. We're fighting a constant battle to keep parties legal, and this is the single biggest factor against us.
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I am not much of a techo-music fan myself, though there has been times when I have heard some techo music ( while radio surfing, in clubs etc. ). However, I suggest you listen to the first album by Kraftwork, which features the song "we are the robots" - that album was one of the first to bring techno music to the forefront and still remains one of the best. The Robert Miles album that features the "dream" song is also kind of good. Au revoir
Re: 13 Happycore short for happy hardcore. Hardcore is a type of techno that is very fast (around 180bpm) and usually has a bass drum on every beat. It's usually less subtle and more powerful than other types of techno. So happy hardcore is a powerful hardcore beat with really cheesy melodies and women singing in high voices about love. The bass rhythm is really nice when you're on E, as is the cheesy melody and cheesy singing, so E-tards usually like it a lot. The genre doesn't get much respect from jaded ravers, it's mostly the 15 year old candy kids who listen to it.
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resp:20 I don't think German band Kraftwerk was defined as techno when it first started-- I believe they were instead labeled as "programming." I can't be sure when the label "techno" came into existence, because I don't remember hearing of it until the early 90's. Techno as far as I know had its roots in Detroit and was an outgrowth of early hip-hop. See the previous music conference. The UK/Europe sound, on the other hand, was known as "New Wave," generally. Without a doubt, Kraftwerk had a strong influence on some of the main New Wave groups. Philip Oakley of the Human League explains on the audio liner notes of "The Very Best Of" that founder Martin Ware was inspired by Kraftwerk's "Transeurope Express" and Donna Summer's "I Feel Love". Daniel Miller, longtime producer to the band Depeche Mode, explained in a VH1 "Behind the Music" interview that he was looking for a pop group with a Kraftwerk-like sound and found it in DM. Kraftwerk fused dance beats with many of their hits on the 1991 recording "The Mix." This may have been a response to the technopop sound they later inspired, but it is rather premature to say their first album brought techno to the forefront. Their sound was merely a forerunner and their primary recordings lacked the danceable beat that defines techno.
Kraftwerk has been identified by many of Detroit's techno pioneers as being one of their prime inspirations when they created the techno sound. But you are right in the sense that when Kraftwerk was making the albums that provided that inspiration, the sound Kraftwerk created was not called techno.
Right. I can understand that. It's pretty apparent Kraftwerk influenced a lot of groups and a lot of electronica genres.
this really doesnt follow the current discussion at the moment about Kraftwerk and detriot techno but i do think its important to note that the two biggest areas on the east side of the US that really brought techno on strongly was New York and Chicago. Chicago has a claim in my opinion to bringing house into the scene as a main techno flavor, with of course respect being paid to DJ Bad Boy Bill, one of my all time favorites. His talent far exceeds many out there, and hes been an influence to DJs since he got started. MIXER did a story on him - "How Bad Boy Bill built his DJ empire". If you are looking for information on DJs, clubs, new cd releases, euro- and american, this is a great magazine to read.
hey if you are looking into hearing some phat break beats Simply Jeff's new album out on Moonshine is supposedly bangin... I personally enjoy hard house more than any other techno but have a collection that ranges from trance to drum and bass to happy hardcore and back around again.. I really get into some good deep GOA when I am in the mood... Well, hope this helps anyone looking for a good CD it was recommended to me by a DJ friend in NC who has a record coming out soon... I'll let you know how good it is. His name is DJ Freezah Well, enjoy your partying kids.. Take care.
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w00t techno finaly somthign i feel like responding to. my first real techno was dj skribbles 'techno smurf' its really good. I would have to say he is my favorite 'DJ'. The type i listing to depends on my mood. 'Name of the game' is a real good song also. i also like 'OVER THE LINe' da da dat. well i like to see i am not the only one who sits lock in his dark room with only black light and gets a buzz from energy drinks while he listing to techno. I FEEL LOVED!
energy drinks? heh, not the usual drug of choice for techno, but hey, ill try anything once. :) techno is my coffee, i jam it in the morning to work. "welcome to the asphalt jungle, where our muses make the game. do you wanna come along? do you wanna play? cmon baby ill send you down deep into the underground....." somehow its seems like when i used to listen to techno, water was a preferred drink. lights? my place has a laser light hooked to the stereo, blacklight, lightning plate, and DVDs with graphics to techno music. and i only have a 1 bedroom small apartment, which makes the cordless headphones for those late nights of light and sound seem perfect.
DJ Skribbles doing techno? Hmmm, he struck me more as old skool. 'Razhel vs. DJ Skribbles'
oh yeah, i got a strobe light buried in the closet somewhere.....i should dig it out again.
WHAT ABOUT ATR AND NEGATIVLAND.
Future Sound of London would be included too, wouldn't it?
YEAH, but can' frget Tommy Knuckles.
I am ll about some Trance. MY favorite Trance dj is a US local, Christopher Lawrence, who I've seen twice (well I kinda saw him the first time, actually about 3 of him ). My favorite track to date is a tie between Chris Lawrence's "Renegade" and the Pimpkin Club's "Mekong". As of late I am becoming very bored with the new electronic music coming out. It doesn't matter if it is euro, house, it just isn't very inovative. A lot of new stuff that is coming out and seems to be the new "popular" genre is electro. I like electro, but most of the stuff I am hearing is minimal electro which is just band music in my opinion. I also write my own music and have an E.P. which I am circulating locally (as if that many ppl in my part of the south even listen to electronic music). I will be working on my follow up shortly, where I am in talks with a small record labbel out of Starkville, MS. My new stuff is going to be influeneced by a lot of strange things, namely 90's grunge/punk. Weird huh. Well gotta to go. Keep dancing.
hi - saw the question about hard house and i couldn't resist. i spin hard house in the baltimore area, but i also like techno, jungle, straight (and gay hahahhaha) house and a whole bunch of others, and yes i detest happy hardcore as being a candy kid's nightmare they forced on the rest of us :) one has to differentiate between U.S. hard house and U.K. hard house. in my opinion U.K. hard house is a lot more mature and better to listen to, it's a touch slower and more rhythmical and less bass happy, but then i could be prejudiced here :). some good U.S. hard house people - bad boy bill (already mentioned), dj venom, dj irene (she has two really good cd's you should check out), and bubblehedz is pretty good as well. as for U.K. hard house, the queen of all the hard house dj's is lisa lashes (She rocks!) but also check out anne savage, bk, fergie, andy farley and lee haslem. all of this used to be on audiogalaxy (R.I.P.!!) but probably could all be found on kazaa as well. before anyone starts screaming about copyrights and paying the artists, almost all of the downloadable tracks are from live shows, which aren't even available on cd and are usually a lot better. if you're going to start with any of them, download lisa lashes' "live on slam fm" part one is better than part two but they are both awesome. progressive house is pretty good as well, check out mauro picotto and deep dish (they're a bit slower). dj dan is probably my thrd favorite dj and has some of the best cd's, he's from chicago, as well as green velvet/dj kashmir who is either from chicago or detroit, but he is interesting because he sings LIVE it's quite amazing to see. if you want a good place to listen to this stuff, try the following links: BBC Radio 1 is probably the best: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/dance they have shows from a number of good dj's - check out fergie's show, judge jules' show and of course the essential mix (with pete tong) ministry of sound radio is also great: http://www.ministryofsound.com/music/radio both of the above links are from the UK. they also will tell you track listings, so you can get to know what you like and actually tell which songs are done by who.. this is good for dj's like me who get to listen while at work (this is a new thing having internet access at work :) happy happy!) and write down any slamming songs i hear during the day, bad thing is that they're hard to find since a lot of them are uk only. anyways happy listening! derek
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no problem! the nice thing is (so far) it's all free, so why not find out about it while you can..
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