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Item 97: the Musical Menagerie : Animal sound sampling in modern music.

Entered by mcnally on Sat Nov 15 23:07:54 1997:

  I was driving along the other day when Jane's Addiction's 
  "Been Caught Stealing" came on the radio and i got to thinking
  about how the intro to the song just wouldn't be the same 
  without the sampled dog barks.  This soon lead to thinking about
  the use of sampled animal sounds in songs in general and some
  of the noteworthy songs that take advantage of it to great effect..

  Any number of great bands have sprinkled animal sounds through
  their recordings though I think I'd credit the Beatles with 
  popularizing the practice, though I doubt they invented it.
  Can anyone suggest who might've been the first to use them in a
  recording that achieved widespread popularity?

21 responses total.

#1 of 21 by teflon on Tue Nov 18 02:18:43 1997:

I dunno, how about papa Mozart (W.A.'s father)'s "Toy Symphony"?  (Ducks. 
I know they didn't use real ones, but still), or that chrismas peice that has
the trumpits whinying at end?
That said, I know that on "Good Night Saigon" by Billy Joel (One of best that
he did, out of quite a few good ones, in my oppinion), he uses crickets as
a sample towards the begining (OK, so I'm obsessive), but that was decidedly
Post-Beatles.


#2 of 21 by mcnally on Tue Nov 18 04:36:02 1997:

  I was thinking mostly of "real" animal noises, as opposed to animal sounds
  mimicked with musical instruments.  I wonder if now that the technology
  exists for people to incorporate arbitrary sounds into a work of music
  the practice of musical mimicry will gradually fade away..


#3 of 21 by remmers on Tue Nov 18 19:23:19 1997:

(Re #1: Wasn't the "Toy Symphony" by Haydn, not Mozart's
father?)


#4 of 21 by lumen on Tue Nov 18 23:10:55 1997:

I believe John is right.  Besides, it does sound like Haydn.


#5 of 21 by orinoco on Wed Nov 19 03:59:38 1997:

A while ago I heard a debate of some sort on that point, John, but I don't
remember how it turned out...


#6 of 21 by albaugh on Thu Nov 20 18:56:47 1997:

Purely speculation:  With all the "novelty" kinds of pop songs from 50's (?)
etc. ("Snoopy Hang On", "Aham the Arab") some of which predated the Beattles
surely, I'd think there must be some animals in there somewhere...


#7 of 21 by md on Thu Nov 20 23:52:14 1997:

Respighi's Pines of Rome has a recording of nightingale.  Dates from
the 1920s, I think.  I seem to remember some animal sounds on the
Rolling Stones "Their Satanic Majesties Request" album, but it's been
years since I've heard it.  Whale sounds in an Alan Hovhaness symphony
called "And God Made Great Whales."  Wendy Carlos's "Sonic Seasonings"
has birds, wolves, frogs and insects.  Bartok imitated the callof the
wood thrush and the towhee in the second movement of his 3rd piano
concerto.  Samuel Barber based his entire cantata "The Lovers" on
the call of the wood thrush.  


#8 of 21 by teflon on Fri Nov 21 02:05:35 1997:

re:3  I might have confused the name.  Never the less, WAM's pappy did write
something involving duck noises.  I recall that I found it more or less
attrocious, too ('though I enjoyed the sheer weirdness of it all.  Sort of
like listening to "Spock Sings!" tracks...)


#9 of 21 by lumen on Sat Nov 22 03:36:23 1997:

Hey, I liked _The Two Sides of Leonard Nimoy_, one of the albums Nimoy sang
for.


#10 of 21 by teflon on Sat Nov 22 16:31:22 1997:

To each their own, y'know.


#11 of 21 by tpryan on Sun Nov 23 17:15:20 1997:

        An interesting CD: Bernie Krause & Human Remains "Gorillas in the  
Mix" on Rydodisc/RCD 10119.  put out in 1988/1989.   Real animal sounds
in that.

        "jingle bells" by the singing dogs was a Christmas novelty 
thing from the late 60's/early 70's.  Back in the days when you
had to get out the razor blade and scotch tape to put such a 
thing togher.  Nowdays it's easy to have Christmas Cats, Dogs,
Frogs and more.


#12 of 21 by orinoco on Sun Nov 23 17:46:58 1997:

Christmas Wildebeests!  Christmas Penguins!  Christmas Albatroses!  Christmas
Chameleons!  
Sorry, just getting a little carried away...


#13 of 21 by bruin on Sun Nov 23 17:59:22 1997:

RE #11 I do remember the version of "Jingle Bells" by the Singing Dogs, where
dogs seemed to be barking out the tune.  There was also a version of "Oh
Susanna" by the Singing Dogs.

This is going to make me feel somewhat older than the rest of youse people,
but I also remember seeing on the old "I've Got A Secret" TV show (circa
1962-64) a singing chorus with each person singing their own name and the song
was "In The Good Old Summertime" (with a gentleman named "Somerstein" becoming
a folk hero for awhile after that).


#14 of 21 by bmoran on Sun Nov 23 21:52:50 1997:

I remember that show! None of the panellists guessed the relationship
between all the people. 


#15 of 21 by teflon on Mon Nov 24 16:27:58 1997:

...I've got a copy of 'in the mood' as done by chickens...


#16 of 21 by bruin on Mon Nov 24 17:07:57 1997:

RE #15 "In The Mood" by the Henhouse Five Plus Two was actually performed by
Ray Stevens doing the chicken clucks.  My ex-girlfriend had a tape of "Ray
Stevens' Greatest Comedy Hits," which featured the same recording.


#17 of 21 by teflon on Tue Nov 25 00:54:44 1997:

Well, yeah.  But STILL...


#18 of 21 by orinoco on Wed Nov 26 01:40:45 1997:

Hey, is he that guy in the scary ads on TV in the gorilla suit?


#19 of 21 by lumen on Wed Nov 26 06:50:47 1997:

Oh man, Dan, don't you know who Ray Stevens is?  He sings "Ahab the Arab,"
"The Streak," "Everything Is Beautiful," "The Haircut Song," "Guitarzan,"
"Would Jesus Wear a Rolex," and "I Need Your Help Barry Manilow."  As a
Southern comedian/musician, he spoofs elements of Southern life and even
topics more familiar to us Yanks.
Now, if you were just jokin', you can ignore that, of course..


#20 of 21 by goose on Wed Nov 26 19:16:31 1997:

"Guitar-Zan, the Guitar-Man......"


#21 of 21 by lumen on Wed Nov 26 19:30:22 1997:

Heh, for a short time when I was a teenager, I started really getting into
Ray Stevens.  I wasn't so aware of who he was when he made a performance at
our fairgrounds, but that was one fair I didn't forget (and most of my friends
remembered it, too).


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