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Item 77: Solti and Bing passed away.

Entered by awijaya on Sat Sep 6 14:09:35 1997:

Hi, there are two great name in Music who died this week,
Sir Georg Solti (84) and Rudolf Bing. The first is 
a famous conductor, the 2nd is the former director
of NY Metropolitan Opera house. Regards (AW)
20 responses total.
#1 of 20 by bruin on Sat Sep 6 14:48:01 1997:

And, alas, their deaths have been greatly ignored due to the recent 
passings of Princess Diana and Mother Teresa.

#2 of 20 by rcurl on Sat Sep 6 15:56:10 1997:

Not at all. You took note - I took note - millions took note. We just aren't
all going to get hysterical about it.

#3 of 20 by richard on Sat Sep 6 16:12:33 1997:

Both those guys were in their eighties at least...and I dont think Rudolph
Bing made as great a contribution to the world as Mother Theresa.  I mean
Mother Theresa cradled lepers in the gutters of Calcutta...Rudolph Bing
cradled all those who lived in fear of sitting through a bad production of
La Traviata at the MET.   Not quite the same thing. 

Georg Solti was the british versionof Herbert VonKarajan...his conducting
days were over anyway.

#4 of 20 by rcurl on Sat Sep 6 17:34:50 1997:

Rudolph Bing helped perpetuate some of the greatest cultural creations of
mankind. Mother Teresa gave selfless dedicated service to the poor of India.
I simply cannot "rank" them in their contributions to humanity. 

Are you an "agist" too, Richard? Because people are old, they are to be
sarcastically rejected as significant?

#5 of 20 by gdeef on Sat Sep 6 18:02:47 1997:

Mother Teresa and Rudolph Bing served to better Human Race . Let their souls
rest in peace.

#6 of 20 by krj on Sun Sep 7 01:28:15 1997:

Solti was scheduled to appear at Hill Auditorium this season --
I believe it was to be with the Metropolitan Opera Orchestra.
So I'm not sure what Richard means to say that "his conducting
days were over."
 
Solti was one of my favorite conductors on recordings; I have a 
lovely Beethoven's 9th which he led, and also several operas.

#7 of 20 by krj on Sun Sep 7 01:33:03 1997:

  ((( Summer Agora #118  <--->  Music #77 )))

#8 of 20 by richard on Sun Sep 7 22:14:50 1997:

no, not an ageist at all...just that Solti was past his prime and
Bing was retired...Mother Theresa was still doing her work.

#9 of 20 by richard on Sun Sep 7 22:17:22 1997:

Besides, Bing was a prima donna...he let his ego get so big that
he actually *fired* Maria Callas, maybe the greatest soprano of them
all, from the MET.  He never lived that down.

#10 of 20 by tao on Mon Sep 8 14:42:45 1997:

re 6: I've got a recording of Beethoven's 9th, with Solti as
conductor.  Does yours include Pilar Lorengar and Yvonne Minton
as the soprano and mezzo-soprano leads?

#11 of 20 by krj on Wed Sep 10 17:15:07 1997:

(I would answer your question, tao, if I could only find the CD...)

#12 of 20 by scott on Wed Sep 10 22:33:33 1997:

Since this seems to be the "beloved entertainer passes away" item...

Burgess Meredith has died.  :(

#13 of 20 by bruin on Thu Sep 11 00:05:16 1997:

What was Burgess Meredith's most famous _musical_ contribution?

#14 of 20 by mta on Thu Sep 11 00:55:21 1997:

His "Penguin" laugh, perhaps?

#15 of 20 by rcurl on Thu Sep 11 05:37:16 1997:

I recognize Burgess Meredith's name very well, but I did not recognize 
him in any of the film clips they showed on CNN tonight (yes, I saw him in
some of those roles, but I did not know it was Burgess Meredith). What
else did he do - maybe an announcer for a radio program?

#16 of 20 by omni on Thu Sep 11 05:42:53 1997:

  He's done a lot of voiceover work, as well as being an actor. I loved him
in Grumpy Old Men, but didn't like what he did in the Batman movie/series.
He was clearly above that.

  He made 70 movies in 7 decades of acting. Not too bad.

#17 of 20 by remmers on Thu Sep 11 19:18:27 1997:

My favorite Burgess Meredith performance was in Steinbeck's "Of
Mice and Men" (circa 1940).

#18 of 20 by aruba on Thu Sep 11 20:35:33 1997:

He was in a classic Twilight Zone episode about the end of the world.

#19 of 20 by bruin on Fri Sep 12 00:11:52 1997:

I intend to start an item in the Cinema Conference regarding passings of
 TV and movie stars in the next few days.  Will keep you posted.

#20 of 20 by bruin on Fri Sep 12 00:42:09 1997:

No sooner said than done.  For further discussion of TV & movie stars who have
died, please check Cinema conference, item #13.

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