Grex Music2 Conference

Item 63: Musical Obituaries

Entered by krj on Thu Aug 7 06:49:37 1997:

We'd been discussing the demise of William S. Burroughs in Mark's item
#32; if nothing else, Burroughs rates a mention here for his work with 
Laurie Anderson.  But in the same day's paper, on the page facing the 
Burroughs obituary, was another obit for Fela Kuti, of Nigeria.
244 responses total.

#1 of 244 by bmoran on Thu Aug 7 13:36:02 1997:

I noticed that. I suppose we'll soon see Geo Harrison's obit. 


#2 of 244 by mcnally on Thu Aug 7 16:53:16 1997:

  Any reason to anticipate Harrison's demise (or is it just the old
  "celebrity deaths always come in threes" thing?)

  Burroughs worked with a fairly wide variety of musical artists.
  In addition to his work with Laurie Anderson on "Mr. Heartbreak"
  he had more involvement with projects by Material (contrary to
  appearances I do *not* receive kickbacks on sales of this album,
  I just like to plug it,) Disposable Heroes of Hiphophrisy, and
  several other bands..


#3 of 244 by raven on Thu Aug 7 22:31:51 1997:

William Burrough's also wrote, and appeared on Tom Wait's fantastic "Black
Rider" album, did work with Kurt Cobain, Tony Trischka, and I believe
had some involement with Throbbing Gristle.  I also like Fela Kunti, BTW.


#4 of 244 by lumen on Fri Aug 8 00:57:34 1997:

I remember Miles Davis and Dizzy Gillespie died within months of each other,
about five years ago.  it was a sad time for the jazz community..


#5 of 244 by bmoran on Fri Aug 8 13:21:16 1997:

Harrison's been diagnosed with lymphoma. Already removed one big lump, and
I heard it's pretty well spread around.


#6 of 244 by omni on Fri Aug 8 22:09:39 1997:

  Lymphoma can be beat. I'd imagine that he'll be doing the chemo/radiation
thing, but since he's reletivly young, he should beat it.


#7 of 244 by bmoran on Sun Aug 10 23:34:57 1997:

KNock on vinyl.


#8 of 244 by bruin on Thu Aug 14 13:51:14 1997:

Blues guitarist Luther Allison, who had appeared at the Ann Arbor Blues and
Jazz Festival in the late 1960's, died Tuesday, August 12, of lung and brain
cancer.  Luther Allison was 57.


#9 of 244 by krj on Thu Aug 14 14:56:26 1997:

The Times had an obit for Conlon Nancarrow, who composed for player 
piano by punching lots of extra holes in the paper.  
My limited exposure to Nancarrow was on an old sampler EP from 
Columbia, the same one which introduced me to Harry Partch.


#10 of 244 by orinoco on Thu Aug 14 17:15:22 1997:

Wow...I had no idea Nancarrow lived this long.  I had thought he died a while
ago.


#11 of 244 by bmoran on Thu Aug 14 18:52:29 1997:

Today's Freep has a short notice too. Interesting sort of guy!


#12 of 244 by mcnally on Sun Aug 17 10:09:44 1997:

  the latest famous musician death seems to be Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan,
  a Pakistani singer who had gained popularity in the US in recent years
  through exposure from Peter Gabriel's RealWorld label and through
  collaborations with popular alternative musicians.  He died Saturday
  in a London hospital

  More info at http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/9708/16/nusrat.ap/index.html


#13 of 244 by raven on Sun Aug 17 13:34:07 1997:

re #12 What a bummer, I like his stuff at least the more tradational stuff
he does that I have on CD.


#14 of 244 by orinoco on Sun Aug 17 17:19:19 1997:

I had the good fortune of seeing Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan here in town a few
years ago.  A great show.  It's a real pity he's no longer with us...


#15 of 244 by scott on Sun Aug 17 22:30:03 1997:

I saw Cab Calloway a couple years before he died, and also saw Sun Ra about
a year before his death.  See those icons now, since next year they may move
on to the next dimension...


#16 of 244 by bruin on Sun Aug 17 22:42:41 1997:

I saw Dottie West perform at Hill Auditorium about a year before her 
death.


#17 of 244 by bmoran on Wed Aug 20 19:29:20 1997:

Scott, did you see Cab with the Detroit symphony? Good show , GREAT voice,
relativly uninspired performance by the symphony, tho.


#18 of 244 by scott on Wed Aug 20 23:21:02 1997:

No, I saw him with a regular big band at MSU.  Great show.


#19 of 244 by krj on Mon Oct 13 19:00:26 1997:

John Denver has died.  His ultralight aircraft crashed into the ocean 
off Monterey, California.


#20 of 244 by lumen on Thu Oct 16 02:42:44 1997:

I couldn't believe it when someone told me.  I jokingly thought it was an
alcohol-related accident.  Well, despite all the fun that's been made of him
(as his music is so..bland and almost cheesy), I miss him.


#21 of 244 by bruin on Sat Oct 18 19:53:20 1997:

At Trailblazers this afternoon, during a "Jam Session," a lady in a 
wheelchair honored the late John Denver (never thought I'd be hearing 
that so soon) with an a capella rendintion of "Sunshine On My Shoulder."


#22 of 244 by diznave on Tue Oct 21 20:58:42 1997:

My roommate, Jeremey, has an interesting story concerning John Denver. When
he was a young teenager, he saw John in concert somewhere in southern Florida.
He and his brother went to the hotel where John and company were staying
hoping to get an autograph. Jeremey had John's first album, hoping to get it
signed. He and his brother were standing in the lobby, when John came walking
by fairly fast. Jeremey and his brother had to run to catch up. They asked
for autographs, and John stopped and explained that he was in a huge hurry,
and maybe another time. Well, an old couple standing nearby (around 80 years
old, supposedly) heard John refuse the autograph, and they came over and the
woman tore into John, shaming him into giving Jeremey and his brothers
autographs. This is not to say anything bad about John at all. I don't know
his situation at the time. He's a great musician, and has made some beautiful
music, and I really regret that I never got to see him live. 


#23 of 244 by tpryan on Sun Nov 23 16:50:23 1997:

        The lead singer of the Austrailian group INXS died earlier
this weekend.

        I know two poeple that have met John Denver.  Each with their
own story.  Another musician, Steve Macdonald, will proudfully say
that without John Denver, he never would have picked up/bought a
guitar; theirfore he never would have come to know many people he
enjoys being around today.


#24 of 244 by mcnally on Sun Nov 23 18:26:59 1997:

  re #23:  I hadn't heard that yet, so I checked out the "Music News
  of the World" at the Addicted to Noise site..  It had this to say:

    Michael Hutchence, the lead singer for INXS, was found dead in
    a Sydney, Australia hotel room on Saturday. Local reports say
    the charismatic and broodingly handsome singer hanged himself
    by his own belt, according to Retuters news service. He was 37.

    Hutchence's suicide comes just before the band was to embark
    on a 20th anniversary tour of Australia following the release
    earlier this year of their most recent album Elegantly Wasted.

  How unexpected and tragically pointless...


#25 of 244 by goose on Tue Nov 25 17:02:10 1997:

Hutchence seems to have shadowed the death of one of the most important
music writers: Robert Palmer (*no* not the Power Station Robert Palmer,
different guy.)  HE wrote _Deep Blues_ which is probably the most autoritative
book on the subject of The Blues, and wrote the companion book to the PBS
series _Rock and Roll: An Unruly History_  The book is more complete and more
accurate than the series (don;t get me wron the series was excellent) He
was in his lat 40's and dies waiting for a liver transplant.

Also the rumours that either Paul Weller or Gary Glitter died are untrue,
although Gary may wish he was dead soon.


#26 of 244 by bmoran on Tue Dec 2 20:32:42 1997:

I saw that Stephan Grappeli, the jazz violinist died recently. 


#27 of 244 by rcurl on Tue Dec 2 20:51:12 1997:

NPR had a piece on him. I'm no jazz afficianado, but he could sure
play the fiddle.


#28 of 244 by remmers on Tue Dec 2 22:22:05 1997:

Grappeli's obituary appeared in this morning's New York Times.
He was 89 years old and an active performer from the 1920's
until just a year or so ago, when his health began to fail.

Grappeli was a wonderful jazz musician. One of my favorite
vinyls is a re-issue of work he did with guitarist Django
Reinhardt in the 1930's.


#29 of 244 by goose on Thu Dec 4 17:07:15 1997:

Guitarist Michael Hedges died from injuries received in a car accident over
the weekend, he was 42 or 43.  I believe he was also a co-founder of the
Windham Hill record label.


#30 of 244 by katie on Sun Dec 21 23:12:11 1997:

Nicolette Larson died last week at the age of 45.


#31 of 244 by bruin on Sun Dec 21 23:14:54 1997:

Re #30 And I still can't get her rendition of "Lotta Love" out of my 
mind.


#32 of 244 by lumen on Mon Dec 22 02:22:09 1997:

Yep, whatta song.


#33 of 244 by tpryan on Wed Dec 24 20:56:36 1997:

        I came across two songs by Nicolette Larson on a Christmas
CD "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" on Rhino.  She does
'One Bright Star' and 'Nothing But A Child'.


#34 of 244 by bruin on Thu Jan 1 19:53:06 1998:

Pianist Floyd Kramer died of cancer at the age of 64 towards the end of 
1997.  His biggest solo hit was "Last Date" in the early 1960's, but he 
did play backup piano on Elvis Presley's "Heartbreak Hotel" among other 
works.


#35 of 244 by goose on Fri Jan 2 03:23:56 1998:

Locally:  Geoff Streadwick, 26, co-owner of 40 Ounce. Sound, ex-Gondolier
bassist, and ex-Morsel guitarist.  Geoff was one of my best friends.
His influence on the Ann Arbor music scene was immesurable.  There will
be a memorial gathering Sunday Jan 4th from 2-6 pm at 40 Ounce Sound,
5007 Jackson Rd.  Jan 4th would have been Geoff's 27th birthday.


#36 of 244 by void on Sat Jan 3 05:08:03 1998:

   yikes, goose, i'm sorry to hear that.


#37 of 244 by bmoran on Tue Jan 6 14:48:49 1998:

My mom had a few of Floyd Kramer's records. Good country piano.
I hear Sonny Bono crashed into a tree while skiing and died. 
"And the beat goes on"


#38 of 244 by bruin on Tue Jan 6 15:30:16 1998:

Looks like bmoran beat me to it, e.g., the death of entertainer turned
Congressperson Sonny Bono.  Ironically, Bono's death came less than a week
after Michael Kennedy's life came to the same tragic end.  

Something tells me that tragic events like these come in groups of three.


#39 of 244 by bruin on Mon Jan 19 19:57:09 1998:

Carl Perkins succumbed to a series of strokes today at the age of 65.  His
biggest hit was the classic "Blue Suede Shoes," which was covered by Elvis
Presley.  Other songs he wrote/performed include "Matchbox," "Honey Don't,"
and "Everybody's Tryin' To Be My Baby," which were covered by the Beatles
early in their career.


#40 of 244 by mcnally on Tue Jan 20 04:56:34 1998:

  For those who're still trying to place him, being more familiar with
  the artists who covered his work than with Perkins himself, he was an
  early rock'n'roll pioneer whose career never took off the way some
  others' did, partly because of a car accident at a critical juncture
  (isn't *that* a familiar story?)



#41 of 244 by goose on Tue Jan 20 16:09:56 1998:

Floyd Kramer, country pianist, died last week.


#42 of 244 by cyklone on Tue Jan 20 23:54:31 1998:

I believe blues harmonica great junior wells also died recently.


#43 of 244 by mcnally on Sun Feb 8 06:39:32 1998:

  Carl Wilson, Beach Boy, has died of cancer at age 51.  According to
  the CNN site, his death was announced by his family yesterday (Saturday..)
  He had apparently been diagnosed with lung and brain cancer in the spring
  of last year..


#44 of 244 by bruin on Sun Feb 8 14:27:46 1998:

Austrian techno-pop singer Falco was killed in a car accident in the Dominican
Republic at the age of 40.  His biggest hits were "Der Kommissar" <sp?> (1983)
and "Rock Me Amadeus" (1986).


#45 of 244 by goose on Wed Feb 11 19:10:36 1998:

Hmm..I thought Der Kommissar was someone else.


#46 of 244 by lumen on Thu Feb 12 01:49:33 1998:

It was..he did a cover of the song, which I thought was really bad-- it was
just a cheesy, half-baked version of the original.  I saw the video as Adam
Sandler and Drew Barrymore presented it on VH1 (as part of a promo for their
80's nostalgia movie "The Wedding Singer").  He must have had a low, low
budget because the vid was REALLY, really bad.  He was dancing badly to a
background of Austrian police cars and such driving down the highway with
flashing blue lights.


#47 of 244 by mcnally on Thu Feb 12 02:31:22 1998:

  I think the other version might've been by "After the Fire" or
  something like that..



#48 of 244 by lumen on Tue Mar 17 23:18:16 1998:

Excuse me..Falco wrote "Der Kommissar" himself-- I was enlightened by VH1's
Pop-Up Video, of all sources.  It's all in German, of course.  "After the
Fire" translated it to English, which Falco felt lost much of the meaning.
The vid mentioned there were 7 different stories in the song, according to
him.  Falco of course, thought his version was best-- and he still maintained
the rights to the royalties-- which meant none went to "After The Fire."  His
version was already on MTV before "After The Fire" even released their cover.
They were pretty discouraged, as it went to #7.  However, they decided to
release it as the band broke up, and their version 'trounced' Falco's on the
charts.

Pity the band never got back together.  I thought they improved the
instrumentation and tone color of "Der Kommissar," and the video was much
better than Falco's (perhaps this was a reflection of the new direction of
music video at that time).

As for Falco, I believe the show said during his "Amadeus" video that he had
been in the Falkland islands or thereabouts, working on a new album.  He was
waiting for the right time to release it.

Speaking of "Amadeus," the video for that one was bad, too.


#49 of 244 by carson on Wed Mar 18 01:10:31 1998:

(I think the album has been scheduled for a posthumous release.)


#50 of 244 by lumen on Wed Mar 18 23:08:42 1998:

Ah.  I have the feeling it will bomb (but I'm not going to hold my breath
either way).


#51 of 244 by bruin on Sun Apr 5 14:52:37 1998:

Reports from the German media say that Rob Pilatus <sp?>, half of the infamous
Milli Vanilli duo, has died at the age of 32 as a result of substance abuse.

In case you tuned in late, Milli Vanilli was the duo that won a Grammy for
best new artist, only to lose it because they lip synched their songs from
other people's recordings.


#52 of 244 by mcnally on Tue Apr 7 16:29:22 1998:

  Apparently popular country music singer Tammy Wynette (responsible
  for the mega-hit "Stand By Your Man" has died, probably of a blood
  clot, at the age of 55.  


#53 of 244 by bruin on Tue Apr 7 20:22:09 1998:

RE #52 I had thought about entering the response on Tammy Wynette, but yielded
to another person on Grex, as I had just entered the obit on the Milli Vanilli
member who had died.


#54 of 244 by mcnally on Wed Apr 8 16:06:42 1998:

  Also, Wendy O. Williams, member of the 80s punk band "the Plasmatics"
  (which were chiefly famous for her (at the time) outrageous antics)
  has apparently committed suicide..


#55 of 244 by bruin on Wed Apr 8 23:42:09 1998:

Looks like death has once again come in groups of three, they being Rob
Pilatus of Milli Vanilli, Tammy Wynette, and Wendy O. Williams rounding the
trio out.


#56 of 244 by rcurl on Thu Apr 9 04:03:19 1998:

Is that supposed to be significant? Sounds like "numerology" to me. 


#57 of 244 by cyklone on Thu Apr 9 05:57:02 1998:

Sorry to mess up the numbers but Cozy Powell, a rock drummer with many,
imcluding Jeff Beck, also died Sunday


#58 of 244 by bruin on Thu Apr 9 11:57:35 1998:

RE #57 I did see the obit on Cozy Powell in the _Ann Arbor News_ yesterday.
BTW, he also replaced "Palmer" in Emerson, Lake & Palmer.


#59 of 244 by mcnally on Thu Apr 9 16:20:49 1998:

 re #56:  the "celebrity deaths occurs in threes" thing is a popular
 superstition that says a great deal more about the human mind's 
 proclivity for finding or imposing patterns than it does about the
 distribution of celebrity deaths.  I suspect bruin wasn't advocating
 a serious belief in it -- I thought of mentioning it myself to poke
 fun at it..


#60 of 244 by rcurl on Thu Apr 9 16:47:50 1998:

Actually, they occur in ones...but spaced unevenly in time. (I was not
aware of the superstition, but I like to poke holes in superstitions
as every little bit helps in eliminating them.)


#61 of 244 by albaugh on Thu Apr 9 17:54:21 1998:

I thought celebreties died according to the fibonacci sequence...  ;-)


#62 of 244 by rcurl on Thu Apr 9 18:13:45 1998:

Fibonacci did....


#63 of 244 by tpryan on Mon Apr 13 03:00:54 1998:

        Hmm.  63 in 63.  There's some numerology for ya.

        Celebreties die in three's.  Exspecially airplane disasters.
Buddy Holly, Big Bopper, Richie Vallens.  All on the same airplane.
Jim Croce and two of his musicians died in an airplane crash.  Not
sure if it was airplane that also took out Bill Chase (of the group
Chase, from the early 70's).
        Cowboys Copas, and two other Country stars (includeding a 
more famous one, the brain sludge just won't give it up right now)
back in tthe 50is a well-remembered airplane disaster.  So well so,
that even today, no three Country artists will fly in the same plane.
They prefer busses to get from city to city while on tour.


#64 of 244 by tpryan on Mon Apr 13 03:09:10 1998:

        Wow.  Web search on Cowboy Copas.  He, Hawkshaw Hawkins, and
Patsy Cline died in a plane crash near Camden (?NJ?) on March 5, 
1963.  So actually after Buddy Holly, reinforcing the idea that
you do not get in a plane with two othermusicians.


#65 of 244 by rcurl on Mon Apr 13 05:17:40 1998:

Superstitions aside, it is a fact that many corporations forbid their
executives to fly on the same plane. This is not because of any mystical
numerology, but to prevent the simultaneous loss of multiple executives
in the event of a crash.


#66 of 244 by mcnally on Mon Apr 13 16:28:26 1998:

  I rather suspect some companies would stand a greater chance of 
  benefitting if their execs *were* on the same plane but since the
  execs make the rules they presuppose a certain amount about the
  importance and usefulness of executives..

  After a tragic incident in WWII where a set of five (I think) brothers
  (the Sullivans?) all died together when their ship was sunk, the armed
  forces also have rules intended to minimize the impact of a single
  disaster on any given family..


#67 of 244 by bruin on Mon Apr 13 17:25:53 1998:

RE #64 And wasn't there another country music star of that era who was killed
in a traffic accident while traveling to (or from?) one of the funerals in
the Cline/Copas/Hawkins plane crash.


#68 of 244 by krj on Tue Apr 14 05:09:08 1998:

Bruce Martin died in late '97, if I remember the news correctly.
Martin was the official bagpiper of the Philadelphia Folk Festival;
he opened every festival evening concert for 30 years.
 
The March 1998 FOLK ROOTS reports that Simon Jeffes, leader of the 
Penguin Cafe Orchestra, "died on February 19, aged 48, after 
a long battle with cancer."


#69 of 244 by krj on Tue Apr 14 21:16:21 1998:

Tuesday's New York Times brings another obit:  Tom Cora, 44, who played 
in an experimental music group Skeleton Crew with Fred Frith -- and sometimes, 
with Zeena Parkins.  I saw the Cora/Frith/Parkins group play the Ark 
about ten (?) years ago; the show was at the outer limit of what I 
perceive as music.


#70 of 244 by cloud on Thu Apr 16 01:23:12 1998:

Didn't John Denver die in an airplane accident?  Or have we already covered
that one?


#71 of 244 by omni on Thu Apr 16 03:43:28 1998:

 We covered that one. Maybe you weren't here.


#72 of 244 by krj on Thu Apr 23 10:37:35 1998:

I forgot to get back here to mention that (according to a net report)
Tuesday 21 April was the 20th anniversary of the death of British 
singer Sandy Denny.  (I'm sure it was April 1978 when she died, 
I remember the news well.)


#73 of 244 by bruin on Fri May 22 22:46:56 1998:

Jazz pianist Dorothy Donegan, who played in Ann Arbor at the Summer Festival
a few times, has died of colon cancer at the age of 76.


#74 of 244 by scott on Sat May 23 00:37:00 1998:

With little press notice, Wendy O. Williams (best known as vocalist of the
Plasmatics) died recently.


#75 of 244 by omni on Sat May 23 02:29:32 1998:

  I wouldn't call being mentioned in Newsweek little press notice.

  Ok, so they didn't give her what they gave Sinatra, but they did mention
her.


#76 of 244 by goose on Sat May 23 04:25:01 1998:

Did Eddie Rabbit die recently?


#77 of 244 by mcnally on Sat May 23 05:30:29 1998:

  re #74, 75:  I agree that Williams' death got a fair amount of notice
  considering the number of people who can still recall anything of her
  recording career (I know I remembered her but couldn't recall a single
  Plasmatics song..)  Besides Newsweek, her death got coverage on CNN
  and even response #54 of the Grex Music Conference obituaries item..
  If that's not fame I don't know what is..  :-)


#78 of 244 by bruin on Sat May 23 14:45:34 1998:

RE #76 Eddie Rabbitt did die of cancer at the age of 53 or 56, depending on
your sources.


#79 of 244 by tpryan on Sun Jul 12 00:12:26 1998:

        A fond farwell here to one of the singing cowboys, Roy Rodgers,
who passed away earlier this week.


#80 of 244 by krj on Tue Sep 8 16:41:13 1998:

Ian A. Anderson of FOLK ROOTS magazine reports, on Usenet, the death of 
Lal Waterson.  Lal was part of the English acapella singing family
The Watersons and she also had made two notable recordings outside
the group: one with her brother Mike in the 70s, and one with her son
Oliver Knight in the early 1990s.  


#81 of 244 by anderyn on Tue Sep 8 17:03:52 1998:

This is such a bummer. She was an interesting singer. 


#82 of 244 by krj on Wed Sep 9 18:41:18 1998:

Lal died of cancer at age 55.


#83 of 244 by krj on Wed Sep 23 18:21:40 1998:

Wednesday's New York Times carries an obituary for UM music 
professor William Albright, who was a renowned ragtime player on 
piano - and also on organ, says the article.  
Mr. Albright was 53 and died of liver failure.


#84 of 244 by katie on Thu Sep 24 04:44:29 1998:

Yeah, his obit was in the AA News a few days ago; I was surprised that there
was no accompanying or subsequent article.


#85 of 244 by albaugh on Thu Sep 24 17:34:27 1998:

I had Prof. Albright for some composition classes (he was a composer himself).


#86 of 244 by bruin on Sat Sep 26 21:45:45 1998:

Jazz singer Betty Carter died today of pancreatic cancer at the age of 69.
I had just listened to a eulogy of Betty on NPR's _All Things Considered_.


#87 of 244 by goose on Fri Oct 2 21:32:54 1998:

Gene Autrey died today according to NPR.


#88 of 244 by bruin on Fri Oct 2 22:55:29 1998:

RE #87 First Roy Rogers, then Buffalo Bob, and now Gene Autry.  Guess we have
death come in groups of three (i.e. singing cowboys and/or Western related
motifs).

As Paula Cole stated so elequently in song, "Where Have All The Cowboys Gone?"


#89 of 244 by goose on Sun Oct 4 02:39:39 1998:

Roddy McDowell died of cancer (I didn't catch what kind)  I think he did
some singing as well as acting.


#90 of 244 by albaugh on Sun Oct 4 04:25:38 1998:

Gene Autry probably died at last due to the heartache of his Anaheim Angels
yet again failing to make it to the post season.


#91 of 244 by bruin on Sun Oct 4 14:52:57 1998:

RE #90 Autry sold the Angels to Disney a few years ago.


#92 of 244 by tpryan on Sun Oct 4 21:19:33 1998:

        Gene Autry also owned one of the Detroit Radio stations. I know
it was one of the 1130AM incarnations of WCAR, but I cannot place the
timeframe.  It's FM companion was WTWR, but not the WTWR now out of
Monroe, at 97.9??.


#93 of 244 by bruin on Sun Oct 4 22:17:43 1998:

RE #92 Gene Autry was the CEO of Golden West Broadcasting, which at one 
time owned WCAR-AM 1130 (now WDFN -- The Fan) and WTWR-FM 92.3 (now WMXD 
-- Mix 92.3).  He sold both stations in 1986 or thereabouts.


#94 of 244 by albaugh on Mon Oct 5 16:24:06 1998:

But he probably still considered them "his" Angels, and the heartache wasn't
any less.  Or not.


#95 of 244 by bruin on Thu Oct 15 12:57:32 1998:

Polka king Frankie Yankovic (no relation to "Weird Al") died yesterday at the
age of 83.


#96 of 244 by krj on Thu Oct 15 16:37:22 1998:

"No relation?!?!?!"  Frank was Weird Al's father!!!!


#97 of 244 by albaugh on Thu Oct 15 20:16:25 1998:

No, Weird Al was *Frankie's* father.  That's what's so weird about him!  :-)


#98 of 244 by krj on Thu Oct 15 20:57:22 1998:

I seem to have been dreadfully misinfomred in #96.  For years I thought Frank
was Al's dad.


#99 of 244 by lumen on Fri Oct 16 01:26:16 1998:

Eh?  Now I'm confused..


#100 of 244 by cloud on Fri Oct 16 02:42:55 1998:

<Oh, good, I'm not the only one)


#101 of 244 by goose on Fri Oct 16 18:02:44 1998:

On the NPR piece about this they said that Al may or may not be distantly
related to Frankie.  I had always made the Father/Son connection.


#102 of 244 by lumen on Fri Oct 16 21:29:15 1998:

So had I.


#103 of 244 by cloud on Sat Oct 17 01:55:47 1998:

Allow me to quote from a biography I found of Frank Yankovic at
>http://www.polkas.com/yankovic (OK, so I was bored):

"A musician having to be away from ordinary family living usually finds
hardship along the way. His marriage to June
with eight children: Linda, Frank Jr., Richard, Andrea, Gerald, Mark, John
and Robert, ended after 28 years. His
second marriage to Pat and two children: Theresa and Tricia, ended in divorce,
despite an attempt to slow down with
a move to Las Vegas."

bitter sweet, eh?  No where on that entire page is Wierd Al mentioned.

finally, from the "Weird Al" Yankovic Frequently asked Questions at
http://www.emsphone.com/Al/faq/ it says this:

"6.Is Weird Al related to "Polka King" Frankie Yankovic?

     No."

I hope that clears up that question.  And yes, I was really, really bored.


#104 of 244 by mcnally on Sat Oct 17 05:28:19 1998:

  You have to wonder about whoever wrote that bio -- I just love the
  sentence "His second marriage to Pat and two children: Theresa and
  Tricia, ended in divorce, despite an attempt to slow down with a
  move to Las Vegas."

  How did his first marriage to Pat and the two children end?  And how
  tragic that Theresa and Tricia apparently ended with the divorce!!  :-)


#105 of 244 by cloud on Mon Oct 19 22:16:15 1998:

God only knows what's happened to folks now that he's dead...


#106 of 244 by bruin on Tue Oct 27 23:57:52 1998:

Not necessarily a bona fide musical obituary, but a music-related obit
nonetheless.  Marvin Gay Sr. died on October 17, 1998, at the age of 84.  He
was the father of Motown superstar Marvin Gaye, whom he fatally shot on April
1, 1984, the eve of the younger Marvin's 45th birthday.


#107 of 244 by lumen on Thu Oct 29 02:13:27 1998:

Jealous father?


#108 of 244 by tpryan on Sat Oct 31 00:54:33 1998:

        late term abortion.


#109 of 244 by goose on Mon Nov 23 21:09:14 1998:

It is with great sadness that I announce the death of one of the great
pioneers of Jamaican music, Roland Alphonso.  Mr. Alphonso was one of the
founders of the Skatalites.  In the Skatalites, he played tenor sax
ans wrote many of the groups signature tunes.  The Skatalites
were *the* first ska group, the name for the genre was taken from their
name.  Roland joins Tommy McCook, who died earlier this year, and
Don Drummond who died in the late '60's, as deceased members of this
fine group.  The cause of death was not noted, but he had been in a coma in
Jamaica for several days before his passing.

I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Alphonso on several occasions and he was
always the gentlemen, humbled by all the attention the group, and particularly
himself, had gotten over the last several years.  He reminded me very much
of my grandfather.


#110 of 244 by goose on Tue Nov 24 01:21:13 1998:

One correction, he died in Los Angeles, not Jamaica.  He collapsed on stage
after suffering a burst artery.  He had already survived two earlier strokes
and a heart atack a few years ago.

A state funeral in Jamaica is supposedly being planned, as he was considered
a national treasure.


#111 of 244 by mcnally on Tue Nov 24 07:13:43 1998:

And so he was..  It's difficult to exaggerate the influence the
Skatalites had on the development of Jamaican music.

I feel fortunate now to have seen him perform during the
band's recent tours.


#112 of 244 by goose on Wed Nov 25 15:56:23 1998:

Yep. And great shows they were.

He was actually Roland Alphonso, OD.  "OD" is Order of Distinction, which
is (by what I've read) the colonial equivalant of knighthood.


#113 of 244 by happyboy on Thu Nov 26 22:53:15 1998:

how sad...


#114 of 244 by cyklone on Sat Nov 28 14:41:09 1998:

Judge Myron Wahls died this week. His mention here is appropriate because
he was a jazz musician (piano) long before he was a lawyer and Court of
Appeals judge. In fact, he put together his own group while in law school
as a means to supplement his income. His style was 50s jazz, and he played
with many recognizable names of that era. In the past decade he even
toured Europe with some of his contemporaries. He was respected for both
his knowledge of law and music; a true Renaissance man. RIP Myron.



#115 of 244 by bruin on Tue Feb 9 17:44:21 1999:

Musician/composer/actor Bobby Troup died on Sunday, February 7, 1999, at the
age of 80.  His best remembered musical composition invited listeners
everywhere to "Get Your Kicks On Route 66."  Troup also had a recurring role
in the 1970's TV drama "Emergency."


#116 of 244 by tpryan on Tue Feb 9 23:28:35 1999:

        One of my vaction plans for the year include a possible trip, getting
kicks, on Route 66.  Start with visit with sister in Chicago, then find
the Chicago end of 66 and try to say on the historical route as much as
possible.  After getting to Oklahoma City, I would be turning south to 
visit sisters in Texas.
        Hope I get to do it.


#117 of 244 by omni on Wed Feb 10 06:50:24 1999:

  Actually, Bobby Troup wrote the song, but it wasn't used for the TV series.
The song was done by Nelson Riddle to avoid paying royalties to Troup.
I have this book on Route 66, complete with profiles of people who were
significant in the creation and the folklore of the road, such as Will Rogers,
John Stienbeck, George Maharis, Martin Milner, and Bobby Troup, among others
that I cannot recall at the present moment.
  The book is very good, and follows the road from Chicago to Los Angeles,
each chapter of the book being dedicated to a different state. Some states
like Illinois, have removed all traces of the original road, replacing it
with I-55, and yet others, New Mexico, Arizona and Oklahoma have taken the
old highway and renamed it as SR 66. I think California did the same thing
as Illinois did, removed all traces of it's existence, save for a plaque
in a park in Santa Monica.


#118 of 244 by tpryan on Thu Feb 11 01:35:27 1999:

        I saw and read that plaque in Santa Monica, honoring Will Rodgers.


#119 of 244 by lumen on Thu Feb 11 06:17:39 1999:

resp: 117 That's too bad.  I would have liked to travel the entire original
road.


#120 of 244 by omni on Thu Feb 11 07:44:53 1999:

  We're all about 40 yrs too late on that. I'm thinking about doing a book
on US 6, which is the last great transcontinental road left in the US, and
that ends in Bishop CA, well short of the coast. I just need funding an a car.
;)


#121 of 244 by cloud on Thu Feb 11 21:30:33 1999:

In Arazona, I think, a section of the origional Route 66 remains as a
"Historical Highway," their was a Nat'l Geographic artical about it.


#122 of 244 by tpryan on Fri Feb 12 23:59:59 1999:

        I've been to both ends of US-41--Copper Harbor, MI and Naples, FL.
I have also traveled some parts of it, including Chicago and Nashville.


#123 of 244 by bruin on Sat Feb 13 02:58:04 1999:

For further discussion of Route 66 and other great American roads, please
refer to the travel conference, item #65.


#124 of 244 by bruin on Wed Mar 3 14:20:57 1999:

British pop singer Dusty Springfield has died following a long battle with
breast cancer.  She was 59.


#125 of 244 by krj on Mon Apr 19 14:31:45 1999:

CNN reports that Skip Spence died Friday at the age of 52.
The cnn.com story says he "had long battled alcholism, schizophrenia
and periods of homelessness."  Spence was a drummer with the early 
Jefferson Airplane and then guitarist for Moby Grape.


#126 of 244 by cyklone on Tue Apr 20 01:03:17 1999:

You can also blame him for naming the Doobie Brothers . . . . 



#127 of 244 by cyklone on Wed Jul 7 12:03:39 1999:

Martin (?) Sandman, the bassist/singer for the band Morphine died of a heart
attack while performing in Rome recently. Although Morphine will never be
noted as a prominent act, it did have an interesting sound featuring bass
(with two strings removed, as I recall), sax, drums and *no* guitar. I always
found their sound to be a refreshing break from the alt/grunge sounds that
often bracketed their airplay . . . .


#128 of 244 by gnat on Wed Jul 7 13:13:27 1999:

Yeah, I'm sorta bummed about Mark (not Martin) Sandman's demise... Morphine
were a cool band and put on a great live show.  They will be missed.


#129 of 244 by goose on Fri Oct 8 02:51:57 1999:

Jazz trumpeter Art Farmer died last monday of a heart attack.


#130 of 244 by goose on Mon Oct 11 22:56:55 1999:

Premier jazz vibrophonist Milt Jackson died at the age of 76.

People: Get out and see some of these living legends before they're all
gone!


#131 of 244 by krj on Mon Oct 11 23:28:45 1999:

Milt Jackson was best known for his work in the Modern Jazz Quartet, 
and I think I have a few other albums with him.  He was pretty much 
the defining player of the vibes, as Chris said.


#132 of 244 by bruin on Mon Oct 11 23:46:49 1999:

Is it just me, or is 1999 becoming the year that so many jazz greats have
died?


#133 of 244 by scott on Mon Oct 11 23:53:05 1999:

I was thinking that about 1998, myself.  Lots of the jazz greats are of such
a generation that they are dropping like flies lately.  :(

(I'm just happy I got to see Sun-Ra and Cab Calloway before their deaths)


#134 of 244 by tpryan on Sat Oct 30 18:07:11 1999:

        I'm sad to see the afterfacts on the death of Hoyt Axton, song writer
and performer, best know for his "Jeremiah was a Bullfrog" 'Joy to the World'
and has appeared as an actor, in 'Gremlins' and as a back-hills singer
on WKRP.


#135 of 244 by lumen on Wed Nov 3 23:58:22 1999:

That is sad.  My folks used to love Three Dog Night, so I grew up 
listening to some of the music he wrote.


#136 of 244 by eprom on Wed Nov 10 09:13:12 1999:

I heard somewhere that the body of the guy from Iron Butterfly
was found, recently...anyone here have anymore info?


#137 of 244 by katie on Wed Nov 10 11:46:36 1999:

Wasn't he found in his van at the bottom of a ravine? After 2 years missing?


#138 of 244 by goose on Wed Nov 10 16:44:55 1999:

That sounds familiar Katie, I think I read that on a mailing list.


#139 of 244 by goose on Sat Dec 11 07:53:58 1999:

Rick Danko, former bassist with The Band died of an apparent heart attack
at his home Friday morning, a day after turning 56.

He had played at the Ark Tues, and I had recorded him on Monday.  I'm
not a huge fan, but this has me a little freaked out.  He was singing
great, had been 'clean' for about a year, although he looked tired (and he
had just done 11 shows in 11 days)

It's just strange...


#140 of 244 by mcnally on Sat Dec 11 16:32:26 1999:

  That's a bummer..  I've been listening to the Band all week
  and realizing how much I enjoy their music.  I also liked some
  of what he'd done more recently with Danko/Fjeld/Andersen.

  I suppose even if I'd known he was playing the Ark on Tuesday
  there's no way I could've gone, but I would've like to have seen him
  perform..


#141 of 244 by happyboy on Sat Dec 11 17:45:03 1999:

yeah...that IS a bummer.  :(  i've always loved
The Band.  even when i was a mr scareyhead hardcore kid.


#142 of 244 by goose on Mon Dec 20 05:02:03 1999:

Grover Washington Jr., anohter big jazz name, died of an apparent heart attack
on friday after taping a TV show.  He was 56.


#143 of 244 by bruin on Mon Dec 20 20:41:14 1999:

And we just lost a country music giant.  Hank Snow, whose best known song was
"I'm Movin' On" in 1950, died today in Nashville.  He was 85.


#144 of 244 by lumen on Thu Dec 23 20:42:48 1999:

I heard about that.  CNN said he was a mentor to Elvis Presley.


#145 of 244 by goose on Tue Dec 28 02:05:06 1999:

And now Curtis Mayfield....56 or 57 I forget which...

1999 is a bad year for loss in music.


#146 of 244 by omni on Tue Dec 28 09:57:02 1999:

  57. Freddie's Dead was one of my favorite funk songs.


#147 of 244 by bruin on Mon Jan 3 20:13:34 2000:

We lost a number of legendary jazz performers in 1999, and on the second day
of 2000, another one has gone.

The musician is cornetist Nat Adderley, age 68, who died on Sunday after a
long illness (he lost a leg to diabetes awhile back).  

Nat was also the brother of the late Julian "Cannonball" Adderley, who was
best remembered for the pop hit "Mercy Mercy Mercy."


#148 of 244 by lumen on Tue Jan 11 03:03:48 2000:

The University of Washington lost jazz prof Roy Cummings last week-- I 
forget the date.  He's not of big note, but one of his students did 
acheive recognition-- Kenny G.


#149 of 244 by lumen on Tue Jan 11 03:04:24 2000:

Roy-- Roy?  I'm not even sure if that's the right first name.  I'll go 
check.


#150 of 244 by scott on Fri Feb 18 23:49:24 2000:

Screamin' Jay Hawkins, died Feb 13.  Quite the showman.  :(


#151 of 244 by mcnally on Sat Feb 19 00:18:26 2000:

  Promoters are already organizing the "Screamin' Jay Hawkins Voodoo Zombie"
  tour..  :-|


#152 of 244 by bruin on Sat Feb 19 01:32:19 2000:

William Oliver Swofford died of cancer in Shreveport, LA, on 2/12/00.  That
name may not ring a bell until I tell you that, using only his middle name
professionally, he had top ten hits in 1969 with "Good Morning Starshine"
(from the musical "Hair") and "Jean" (from "The Pride Of Miss Jean Brodie").


#153 of 244 by goose on Fri Feb 25 16:25:30 2000:

Israili pop star Ofra Haza died Feb 23, 2000 at the age of 41.  Details of
her death are not being released, but she had been in the hospital for several
weeks.  Her funeral was attneded by both current PM Ehud Barak and former
PM Shimon Peres.


#154 of 244 by krj on Sun Feb 27 04:10:02 2000:

Holy shit.  I saw the report on cnn.com when she went into the hospital
 -- I vaguely recall that the report was of heart problems.
 
Ofra Haza was one of the first artists in the mid-80s world music boom.
Her album "Yemenite Songs" was quite popular in our household for a 
few years.


#155 of 244 by krj on Mon Mar 27 20:05:10 2000:

The April issue of the British magazine Folk Roots quotes Israeli 
sources as saying that Ofra Haza died of AIDS, which is still 
considered a taboo subject there.
 
Today's web news reports the death of Ian Dury, from cancer.
Ian Dury and the Blockheads were part of the first wave of British
punk on the Stiff Records label; Dury's big hit was "Sex and Drugs
and Rock and Roll," and there was a second hit with 
"Hit Me with Your Rhythm Stick," which is an old favorite song 
of Leslie's.   


#156 of 244 by krj on Mon Mar 27 20:12:17 2000:

Dury was 57.  His music career had fizzled in the 1980s, and he 
turned to acting and painting.  He appeared in the films "The Cook, 
The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover," and in Roman Polanski's "Pirates."


#157 of 244 by katie on Mon Mar 27 21:20:18 2000:

Last week Ed(?) McCurdy died. He wrote "Last Night I Had The Strangest
Dream," among other beloved and popular songs.


#158 of 244 by dbratman on Sat Apr 1 00:58:28 2000:

Vivian Fine, one of the more prominent women among the large, fruitful 
generation of American composers prominent in the 1930s-50s, died 
recently.  She was 86.


#159 of 244 by bruin on Wed May 3 13:30:25 2000:

And another jazz legend has bitten the dust!

Trumpeter Jonah Jones died on April 30, 2000, at the age of 90.  He had 
played with the Cab Calloway orchestra, and later had a successful solo 
career with jazzed-up versions of Broadway show tunes such as "On The 
Street Where You Live" and "Baubles, Bangles & Beads."  He retired from 
performing in 1993.



#160 of 244 by goose on Thu Jun 1 14:03:58 2000:

Latin percussionist Tito Puente passed away yesterday.


#161 of 244 by scott on Sun Jul 2 13:39:59 2000:

'Cub' Koda, an Ann Arbor rock star from years ago, died last night.

He's most famous for the Brownsville Station hit "Smokin in the Boys Room".


#162 of 244 by tpryan on Sun Jul 2 14:05:34 2000:

        He's gone to dance the "Martain Boogie" after some "Random
Drug Testing".


#163 of 244 by orinoco on Sun Jul 2 21:52:43 2000:

I'd had no idea he was from Ann Arbor....


#164 of 244 by katie on Mon Jul 3 03:58:32 2000:


He was my neighbor of late.


#165 of 244 by happyboy on Mon Jul 3 04:03:25 2000:


i'm havin a memory here...was he by any chance a
native american?


#166 of 244 by katie on Mon Jul 3 12:43:17 2000:

Perhaps you're thinking of Ricky Medlocke and his brothers, of "Blackfoot."


#167 of 244 by happyboy on Mon Jul 3 14:17:38 2000:

oh...maybe.  useta hang out with *whoever*
at the liberty inn in the mid 80's once in 
awhile.


#168 of 244 by isis on Tue Jul 4 00:32:26 2000:

Cub Koda was actually from Waterloo, Michigan. I used to live down the street
from him, back in my Chelsea days...


#169 of 244 by bruin on Tue Sep 12 18:30:40 2000:

Just heard that jazz musician Stanley Turrentine had died.  He was 
scheduled to perform at the Ann Arbor Blue & Jazz Festival this weekend.


#170 of 244 by goose on Wed Sep 13 03:11:54 2000:

Yep, he apparently had a stroke a day or so ago.


#171 of 244 by tpryan on Wed Nov 1 17:59:34 2000:

        Steve Allen passed away in the evening of Octover 30, 2000.
Known also a TV personality that brought The Tonight Show to network
TV (for 3 years before Jack Parr had it for a few more and Johny Carson
hosted for 30 years), Steve Allen also is know for writting over 4,000
songs.  He wrote a number of them for Steve Lawernce and Eddie Gormet,
who where the featured singers on his TV show.
        If I recall correctly he also wrote "This Could Be the Start
of Something Big".

        Your memories?


#172 of 244 by brighn on Wed Nov 1 20:50:01 2000:

I was sharing this around the office: One of my favorite bits is actually
timely. Back when the Tonight Show was Allen's, he did a "man in the street"
bit (much like Leno's Jaywalking). He went about asking people their reactions
if it turned out the President was heterosexual. He got everything from "I
don't think that would be apporpriate at all, he should resign" to "I don't
think that sort of thing really matters, it's a private thing."


#173 of 244 by tpryan on Wed Nov 1 23:11:09 2000:

        Steve Allen was also one to who did not have to get the laughs
himself, as long as people remember his *show* for being funny.


#174 of 244 by bmoran on Thu Nov 2 16:42:10 2000:

Steve also introduced quite a few new musicians on his show. One was a
young guy from California named Frank Zappa, who tapped drumsticks on an
upsidedown bicycle. When Steve asked him how long he had been playing the
bicycle, Frank replied 'about 20 minutes, the rest of the band didn't show
up, so I had to do something'. Steve laughed.


#175 of 244 by dbratman on Thu Nov 9 05:46:18 2000:

For me, Steve Allen is primarily the guy who had hired Allen Sherman to 
produce his tv show, wrote liner notes for Sherman's first album, and 
features prominently in Sherman's autobiography.


#176 of 244 by dbratman on Thu Nov 9 05:47:42 2000:

Erg, that's Allan Sherman.  Usually I can tell my Alan/Allan/Allens 
apart.


#177 of 244 by orinoco on Thu Nov 9 15:10:40 2000:

(which one is the guy with the wrenches?)


#178 of 244 by bmoran on Wed Nov 15 04:29:44 2000:

The one with 2 l's.


#179 of 244 by gelinas on Wed Nov 15 04:43:20 2000:

But only one a.


#180 of 244 by micklpkl on Tue Dec 19 15:53:52 2000:

I just heard that Kirsty MacColl has died in a boating accident in Mexico.
Details are sketchy, but NME has an article here:
http://www.nme.com/NME/External/News/News_Story/0,1004,11543,00.html



#181 of 244 by mcnally on Tue Dec 19 20:57:06 2000:

  I had a roommate who used to listen to her music, but I'll always remember
  her for "Fairytale of New York"..


#182 of 244 by micklpkl on Tue Dec 19 22:25:34 2000:

Re:#181 -- I will, too. Fairytale of New York holds a special place in my
heart. That was my introduction to Kirsty, and shortly after purchasing that
Pogues CD, I realized that she had blessed several of The Smiths' songs with
her backing vocals. She's also on the soundtrack to one of my favourite
movies, "She's Having a Baby." (covering a Smiths song)
I have two of her solo CDs, KITE and ELECTRIC LANDLADY. I love Kite, and I'm
lukewarm over Electric Landlady. I'll be digging both of these out of the
racks tonight, in memoriam.
Here's another nice obit:
http://itn.co.uk/news/20001219/entertainment/09maccoll.shtml


#183 of 244 by bruin on Wed Dec 20 00:36:13 2000:

Roebuck "Pops" Staples, the patriarch of the gospel/R&B group The 
Staple Singers, died today of injuries suffered earlier in a fall.  
Pops would have turned 85 on December 28, 2000.


#184 of 244 by ashke on Thu Dec 21 14:15:30 2000:

Rob Buck, the lead guitarist for 10,000 Maniacs died of complications with
liver failure Tuesday night.  He was 42.


#185 of 244 by brighn on Fri Dec 22 04:40:06 2000:

The pity about "Fairytale of New york" was that I thought it was a good song
because of the Pogues, only to discover that I couldn't stand much else that
the Pogues did, while I loved nearly everything I heard from Kirsty.

An obscure contribution: Libery Horses, fronted by her brothers, on which she
does backing vox for a few tracks (credited as Kitty MacColl).


#186 of 244 by carson on Mon Jan 8 03:11:37 2001:

(Les Brown died on Thursday of lung cancer.  he was 88.)

(Brown was a band leader in the '30s and '40s, but he's pribly best known
for the Christmas tours with Bob Hope he began in 1950.  He was instrumental
in getting the Grammys on television, and is listed in the Guinness Book of
World Records as the leader of the longest lasting musical organization in
recent music history.)


#187 of 244 by albaugh on Mon Jan 8 16:51:11 2001:

Wasn't he "Les Brown and his band of renown"?


#188 of 244 by tpryan on Mon Jan 8 17:17:56 2001:

        I wonder if Mick Jagger will now claim that title?


#189 of 244 by krj on Fri Feb 23 22:19:53 2001:

Usenet newsgroup rec.music.folk has carried an obituary for American
acoustic guitarist John Fahey.  I haven't seen this confirmed in 
mainstream media yet.  The obituary says he died following heart 
bypass surgery.  


#190 of 244 by bruin on Sat Feb 24 03:13:21 2001:

RE #189 John Fahey was remembered on today's "Fresh Air" and "All 
Things Considered" on NPR.  He passed away after heart surgery at the 
age of 61.


#191 of 244 by krj on Sat Feb 24 21:02:11 2001:

There are two good obituary pieces at www.washingtonpost.com.
As Fahey was a native of Takoma Park, these may be among the best pieces
available.  I haven't checked the Portland papers yet.


#192 of 244 by carson on Wed Mar 14 05:19:38 2001:

(Glenn Hughes died of lung cancer on March 4.  he was the original biker
for the Village People.)


#193 of 244 by bruin on Sun Mar 18 21:39:47 2001:

"Papa" John Phillips (of The Mamas & the Papas) died this weekend of 
heart failure in a California hospital.  He was 65.


#194 of 244 by dbratman on Mon Mar 19 18:42:53 2001:

I don't know which is more surprising: that he died or that he was 65.  
65. Wow, man.


#195 of 244 by krj on Sun Apr 15 19:23:44 2001:

On last night's "Prairie Home Companion," with musical guests the 
Battlefield Band, Garrison Keillor announced the death of former 
Battlefield member Davy Steele.  We'd known for a year that Davy Steele
had a brain tumor, so this was not unexpected; his failing health
had forced him to retire from the band several tours ago.
 
Davy first came to my notice in the Scottish folk band Ceolbeg, and 
from there he moved to the Battlefield Band, probably in the mid-90s.
He sang and played guitar, and wrote contemporary songs. 
Around the same time he joined Battlefield he married Patsy Seddon,
harp player with The Poozies, and they had a child just before his illness
struck.    (From a web page created by fans where news is posted by 
the family, I gather Davy is also survived by one or more older children
from a previous marriage.)

At his last appearance at the Ark with the Battlefield Band, he was happy
to chat with me at length about goings-on with his wife's band.        


#196 of 244 by carson on Mon Apr 16 02:36:05 2001:

(CNN reports that Joey Ramone, the former lead singer of the seminal 
punk band The Ramones, died today of lymphoma.  he was 49.)


#197 of 244 by krj on Mon Apr 16 03:37:26 2001:

Damn.  I'd heard about his illness, but the report sounded optimistic.
I saw the Ramones a couple of times near their peak, in 1978 and 1980.

And finally there was the unusual evening, after the opening of the Detroit
Opera House, when the opera chorus and their dates (including Leslie 
and I) ended up at the same hotel bar as the Ramones, who had played 
elsewhere in the city that night.


#198 of 244 by micklpkl on Thu May 10 22:02:08 2001:

An e-mail from Green Linnett reports that the renowned fiddler P.J. Hayes died
peacefully at his home in County Clare on Sunday, 6 May 2001, at the ripe old
age of 80. He was a founding member of the Tulla Ceili Band, and the father
of fiddler Martin Hayes. 


#199 of 244 by krj on Mon May 21 16:24:01 2001:

From USA Today:  Jazz singer Susannah McCorkle committed suicide, age 55.
McCorkle was a constant critics favorite and I have several of her old 
LPs.


#200 of 244 by gelinas on Mon May 21 17:07:35 2001:

Ah.  WEMU was playing some of her music while I was driving to work today,
with a note that she had "died tragically over the weekend."  Hadn't heard
of her before that, though.


#201 of 244 by bruin on Thu May 24 12:25:12 2001:

There will be a tribute to the late Susannah McCorkle tomorrow (Friday 
May 25, 2001) on "Fresh Air" with Terry Gross on NPR.  The show will be 
heard at 12 Noon EDT on WUOM (91.7 FM) and at 3:00 pm and 7:00 pm (both 
times EDT) on WEMU (89.1 FM).  Check your local NPR station's schedule 
outside of the Ann Arbor-Ypsilanti area for times.


#202 of 244 by krj on Thu May 24 18:03:15 2001:

(Thanks for mentioning this, bruin!)


#203 of 244 by dbratman on Fri May 25 06:35:09 2001:

If you like Susannah McCorkle, be sure to read the tribute to her by 
her long-time friend Jon Carroll, the San Francisco Chronicle columnist.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
file=/chronicle/archive/2001/05/24/DD187499.DTL

Get the above all into one line, and there you are.  
http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/carroll/ and choose May 24th is 
another way there.


#204 of 244 by krj on Fri May 25 17:48:44 2001:

Thanks, David, that was worth reading.  
 
Salon also has a piece (in their "Sex" column!) which says that McCorkle
was depressed because her record company had told her they couldn't put
out her newest release, and a regular singing gig in New York had 
ended.



#205 of 244 by dbratman on Sun May 27 03:35:37 2001:

Not only was the McCorkle article in Salon's sex column, they had the 
same day an article about sex in their "Living" (or whatever it's 
called) column.  I think wires got crossed somewhere.


#206 of 244 by tpryan on Mon May 28 17:09:49 2001:

        I was wondering why the name looked familiar.  I brought home
her "from broken hearts to blue skies" CD to listen to from work.
It is a 1999 Susannah McCorkle release.


#207 of 244 by tpryan on Tue Jun 5 16:04:08 2001:

        I heard John Hartford passed away.  Gentile on my mind and 
all that.  Saw him perform at The Ark a time or two.  Impressive
to see him pick and sing and dance on a special 'soft shoe' board
that had a mic pickup on it.


#208 of 244 by happyboy on Tue Jun 5 17:10:27 2001:

last i heard he had been fighting cancer for YEARS

know any details?


#209 of 244 by krj on Tue Jun 5 17:37:36 2001:

resp:207 :: "Gentile on my Mind" sounds like one of those song parodies
Tim might collect.
 
Actually the John Hartford song which I think Tim needs the most 
is "Good Old Fashioned Electric Washing Machine," from his first album
EARTHWORDS AND MUSIC, the album which also included "Gentle On My Mind."
That's a fave of mine; I have a beat-up old copy I got used.  Unfortunately 
the LPs from Hartford's earliest recording years, 1967-1970, have never 
been reissued by RCA.  Most of his work since 1971 is available.

John Hartford's web page is at http://www.johnhartford.com and I guess 
he had made arrangements for it to be taken care of while he was ill,
because his death is mentioned there.  Hartford's failing health had 
been covered over several weeks in the rec.music.folk newsgroup --
always a bad sign -- but he must have had a recent rally because 
the web page lists several upcoming live dates for him.
 
Unlike some performers who have faded away by the time they die, 
Hartford had a flood of activity in his last decade.  His web page
shows about 15 new CD releases since 1990; I know that I'd given up
trying to keep track of them.  He was involved with the soundtrack 
for the Coen Brothers film "O Brother, Where Art Thou" which was an 
unexpected smash hit by country/folk standards -- last I heard, it had
sold 750,000 copies.  Again according to his web site, John Hartford was 
to emcee a Carnegie Hall concert with the "O Brother" artists on 
June 13.

I only saw Hartford perform once; about 25 years ago at the Ten Pound 
Fiddle coffeehouse at MSU.   Memories are kind of distant, but I remember 
liking him a lot.


#210 of 244 by krj on Tue Jun 5 17:48:36 2001:

(( I generally disapprove of entire reprints, but this was so good 
   that today I'll make an exception. ))
 
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan,rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: John Hartford R.I.P.
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:54:29 -0700

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


Filed at 10:17 p.m. ET

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- John Hartford, a versatile and wry performer who
wrote the standard ``Gentle on My Mind'' and turned his back on Hollywood to
return to bluegrass music, died Monday at a hospital after a long battle
with cancer. He was 63.

The singer-songwriter, comedian, tap-clog dancer, television performer and
riverboat enthusiast had cancer for more than a decade. He died at about
4:45 p.m., said hospital spokesman Russ Gannon.

``Gentle on My Mind'' has been broadcast on radio or television more than 6
million times, according to Broadcast Music Incorporated, which collects
song royalties. It has been recorded more than 300 times, most prominently
by Glen Campbell in 1967.

Hartford's career rambled from Hollywood to Nashville, with stops writing
and performing on network television, thousands of shows at bluegrass clubs
and festivals, and stints as a licensed steamboat pilot on the Mississippi
River.

At the height of his fame in the early 1970s, Hartford reconsidered his
decision to take an offer to star in a detective series on CBS. Instead, he
returned to Nashville and resumed his career as an innovative, relatively
low-profile bluegrass singer-songwriter.

``I knew that if I did it, I would never live it down,'' Hartford said of
the television series in a 2000 interview. ``Because then when I went back
to music, people would start saying, `Oh, he didn't make it in acting so
he's gone country.'''

Born in New York City and raised in St. Louis, Hartford was enthralled as a
youngster by riverboats and bluegrass music, in particular that of Lester
Flatt and Earl Scruggs. He moved to Nashville in 1965, and his first album
``John Hartford Looks at Life'' was released the following year.

Hartford's version of ``Gentle on My Mind'' from second album ``Earthwords &
Music'' was a minor hit in 1967. The song is about a hobo whose mind is
eased by the thought of a former lover.

Hartford moved to California in 1968, landing a job writing and performing
on ``The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour.'' His went on to the cast of ``The
Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour.''

Returning to Nashville in 1971, Hartford released the landmark acoustic
album ``Aereo-Plain'' and continued to record until his death.

He was one of the performers on the hit soundtrack to the film ``O Brother,
Where Art Thou?''

^------

On the Net:

John Hartford site: http://www.techpublishing.com/hartford

(( krj adds:  I didn't check that URL, the one I used was
              http://www.johnhartford.com ))




#211 of 244 by happyboy on Tue Jun 5 19:10:43 2001:

<barry sits here and feels sad>...i got to meet him & his
wife for a sec once, real good down to earth people...i have
an autographed 8*10 from that time..."For Bubba, from John
Hartford"  i literally grew up on his music...i use to have his
first album, it may still be at my folks house i dunno.

i saw him a few times at the ark but not for several years, last
time musta been shortly after he was diagnosed, he looked pretty
frail and was *balding*

i treasure his music...he instilled a deep and abiding love for
traditional southern rural music in me, and is the reason for 
my playing the banjo.

i think my favorite show was one i saw him do with his son jamie
on mandolin.  he kept on subtly teasing his boy and making him
blush.  it was real nice.

last i had heard of his illness was about 3 or 4 years ago
maybe during an e-mail/banjo-L exchange i had with the GREAT
SONNY OSBORNE in which he said that "Brother John was fighting
the good fight" and "doing well"

it may seem odd, being a former punker and all, but john has
had a greater and deeper impact on me as a musical person than
beefheart, the pistols, dylan, or even bob marley...really
a deeper impact on me than any other musician.

i will miss him, and as brother pete seger would say:
"may he liven up the heavenly band!"

/cues: "Let Him Go On Mama"

prolly his COOLEST song ever.


#212 of 244 by tpryan on Tue Jun 5 23:58:42 2001:

        I got three authographed CDs from one of the shows I did see.
One, "A John Hartform Anthology" or "Me oh My, How the Time Does Fly"
is a re-recording of this most known and personal favorites.  It's
on Flying Fish and might also be available at Borders.  Blue Plate Music
put out a John Hartford Live from Mountain Stage' CD last year.  Oh
, I didn't mention, his authograph has to be the best in music, as they
look like part of the CD package.
        He also joined with David Grisman and Mike Seeger to put out a
CD called "Retrograss", taking tunes like Chuck Berry's "Maybelline"
and making it sound like it came from the 1910's, not the 1950's.  That
one I did find at Borders on Acoustic Disc.  Try dawgnet.com.


#213 of 244 by happyboy on Wed Jun 6 13:28:38 2001:

that cd is a hoot.

the anthology has some versions of songs that are improvements
the version of *gentle* i like better as well as the version of
*boogie* which is a more interesting version that the one on
"Areo-Plain"

i was lissening to a fine cd with my gal last night
that i reccommend to any readers which was released
in 93/94

"The Walls We Bounce Off Of"

tim, you'd really enjoy the "All Collision All Explosion Song"

i wonder if Dr. D. has heard it?


#214 of 244 by tpryan on Wed Jun 6 16:14:14 2001:

        Yep, Dr. D has played "All Collision.."  "Boogie" and "..Washing
Machine".


#215 of 244 by albaugh on Thu Jun 7 07:44:44 2001:

Meaning no disrespect out of ignorance, but was it Hartford or Glen Campbell
that made the Gentle on My Mind "famous"?


#216 of 244 by gelinas on Thu Jun 7 15:42:36 2001:

Glen Campbell's was the only version I can remember hearing.


#217 of 244 by happyboy on Thu Jun 7 18:03:49 2001:

campbell made it famous.

hartford made it beautiful.


#218 of 244 by albaugh on Thu Jun 7 22:22:49 2001:

Can you explain the latter statement?


#219 of 244 by happyboy on Fri Jun 8 16:33:12 2001:

yes, but i won't, stupidhead.


#220 of 244 by albaugh on Sun Jun 10 06:49:36 2001:

how helpful...


#221 of 244 by tpryan on Sun Jun 10 16:41:56 2001:

        I only recently learned at bangur is a different type of
banjo, not a different pronunciation.


#222 of 244 by happyboy on Mon Jun 11 12:52:53 2001:

we players refers to them all thu same.

i call mine a banjer.

are you talking about an old-time gourd-banjer?

those are really cool, i've played them a few times
although the whole fret-less experience was difficult
for my playin style.


#223 of 244 by tpryan on Tue Jun 12 21:52:41 2001:

        I seen a bangur that is like guitar with a banjo head/sounder.
banjo body with a guitar fret.  Strung and plays like a guitar, plays
a banjo sound.


#224 of 244 by happyboy on Tue Jun 12 23:38:38 2001:

a banjo-guitar.


#225 of 244 by krj on Thu Jun 14 06:04:46 2001:

NPR note #1:  On Wednesday, "All Things Considered" ran a feature about a 
documentary film about the musicians who performed for the film
"O Brother Where Art Thou?"  Director D.A. Pennebaker said that the 
real star of that film was John Hartford.  The film is called 
"Down From The Mountain."


#226 of 244 by happyboy on Thu Jun 14 17:49:28 2001:

i cant wait to see it.

i rediscovered my old wore out tape of
aereoplane, i last played it over a year ago.

i went out and got it on cd, also my sister gave me a 
copy of his lat 60's comp :gentle on  mmy mind and other
originals"


#227 of 244 by bmoran on Sat Jun 23 02:30:53 2001:

Some unknown blues guy quit playing down here and went to the club in the
sky. J.L. Hooker I believe was his name. Couldn't spell very well, they
say he had a hit with "Boogie Chillin'" back in the late 40's. Some
'Modern' rockers said they were inspired by him. (What a voice!)


#228 of 244 by tpryan on Sat Jun 23 13:44:18 2001:

        /tpryan lights a single candle.


#229 of 244 by happyboy on Sat Jun 23 16:59:59 2001:

john hartford
john lee hooker
carrol o'connor




#230 of 244 by krj on Sat Jun 23 18:51:03 2001:

Carroll O'Connor, of course, has a place in musical history for his
vocal performance on the theme song from "All In The Family."


#231 of 244 by dbratman on Sun Jun 24 12:22:04 2001:

... a song which has usurped the title "Those Were the Days", and I 
often wonder if I'm the only person who remembers another song with 
that title, popularized by Mary Hopkin in the 60s ...


#232 of 244 by tpryan on Sun Jun 24 14:16:10 2001:

        based on old Russian folk tune?


#233 of 244 by gelinas on Sun Jun 24 18:35:03 2001:

Is that the one Kool 107 used to play?  (I've switched to WEMU, so I
don't know that 107 isn't still playing it.)


#234 of 244 by bruin on Sun Jun 24 20:50:28 2001:

There was a song by Mary Hopkin in 1968 called "Those Were The Days" 
(not the AITF theme).  It was one of the first recordings on the 
Beatles' Apple label


#235 of 244 by gelinas on Sun Jun 24 20:55:27 2001:

I guess the answer to #231 is, "No."  ;)


#236 of 244 by dbratman on Tue Jun 26 04:59:41 2001:

I guess the answer to 232 is probably "no", and the answer to 231 seems 
to be "dashed close to it."


#237 of 244 by gelinas on Tue Jun 26 05:54:06 2001:

My guess is that the answer to #232 is "yes."  The song is definitely
European; I'd always thought Greek, but Russian works.


#238 of 244 by sspan on Sun Jul 1 16:45:53 2001:

Heard today that Chet Atkins passed away.


#239 of 244 by krj on Sat Jul 21 04:18:01 2001:

I need to get back to writing about Chet Atkins.
 
-----
 
Folksinger Mimi Farina died on July 18.  She was 56; we'd known she 
had cancer and was sliding downhill fast when her sister Joan Baez
cancelled her Ann Arbor Folk Festival appearance, along with the 
rest of her concert schedule, to care for Mimi. 
 
Mimi Farina was best known for the two 1960s duet albums she recorded 
with her husband Richard Farina; their best-known song was "Pack Up 
Your Sorrows."  After Richard was killed in a motorcycle accident 
in 1966 (Mimi was 21), she tried to keep a solo career going 
but it was not much of a success.  In the 1970s she started a 
charity group, "Bread and Roses," which brings music performances 
to the imprisoned, the sick, the elderly and the poor.
 
A recent book, "Positively Fourth Street," reportedly chronicles the 
tangled personal and artistic relationships among Richard & Mimi 
Farina, Joan Baez and Bob Dylan.  I haven't read it; the reviews make
it sound like quite the soap opera.
 
The Farinas' recordings have rarely if ever gone out of print: there 
was a new CD compilation issued last year.  But I've found that few 
people younger than me have ever heard of them.  Time to dust off the 
old Vanguard LPs.


#240 of 244 by orinoco on Sat Jul 21 16:00:25 2001:

I listen to my parents' copy of "Celebration for a Grey Day" now and again.

(Do you know if any of Mimi's solo albums are still in print?  I think I'd
like "Celebration" a lot better if it weren't for Richard's voice...)


#241 of 244 by krj on Mon Jul 23 16:37:15 2001:

I haven't found any in-print listings for any solo Mimi Farina albums.
The only ones I found listed anywhere were "Take Heart," with 
Tom Jans, from 1971; and "Solo", from 1985, which I dimly 
remember seeing as a CD edition.


#242 of 244 by dbratman on Tue Jul 24 05:27:44 2001:

Despite all the reviews of "Positively Fourth Street", the interest 
hasn't translated into obits of Mimi Farina in anything that I read, 
before now.

Unfortunately, I don't know her work, solo or group.  I've heard a few 
Richard-and-Mimi songs, and though Richard's voice is nasal, it's 
infinitely less annoying than that of Bob Dylan, whom I can't stand.


#243 of 244 by orinoco on Tue Jul 24 20:39:55 2001:

"Solo" turned up for sale on a few sites.  There is a CD edition.  I lost the
URL, of course, but it's out there.


#244 of 244 by krj on Wed Aug 1 19:57:33 2001:

From rec.music.country.old-time:  I have not tested the links:
 
Now available for consumption by those who revered him, the program
"Stashed Behind Your Couch", a 6-part retrospective of John Hartford.
Has stuff from his first RCA material up to the most recent, and interviews
with such as  Bela Fleck, Sam Bush, Pete Wernick, Bob Carlin, Tom Smothers,
Dr. Demento, some lesser-known friends and a few cherished bits of John
himself.  Enjoy.

Playlist file:  http://www.kfjc.org/hartford/slowfull.m3u

MP3 files:  http://www.kfjc.org/hartford/SBYC1LOW.MP3 (and 2 thru 6).

This program aired on Sat. July 21 2001 on KFJC 89.7 in the SF Bay Area.


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