Grex Music2 Conference

Item 34: What's the *worst* recording you own?

Entered by mcnally on Thu Mar 27 08:28:51 1997:

What's the absolute *worst* recording in your collection?  I'm not
talking about the biggest disappointment or the one that's most
embarrassing to actually own, I'm talking flat-out unlistenable
no-redeeming-value garbage.  If you've got a record-collection of
any size at all I *know* you've got something hideous buried at the
bottom -- why not tell us all what it is so we can either avoid 
making the same mistake ourselves or at least have a good laugh at
your expense..

76 responses total.

#1 of 76 by mcnally on Thu Mar 27 08:37:54 1997:

In my case top honors go to Jad Fair's "Greater Expectations."
An (unheard-by-me) collaboration with one of my favorite bands
(Yo La Tengo) sparked a mild interest in Fair's solo work and
his work with his brother in the band Half Japanese..  During
one day's fruitless record-shopping excursion at Tower I decided
to take a chance and select one of his albums since I couldn't
find much else of interest on that fateful day..  I swear by all
that is holy that this is *the* most annoying, dischordant, 
unspeakably, indescribably awful music I have ever heard. 

I seriously believe that given the chance Dr. Mengele would have
chosen to play this music to the patients in his waiting room.

Hopefully you will never have to deal with an album this terrible
but if are among the unlucky few what would you recommend as an
appropriate disposal procedure?


#2 of 76 by senna on Thu Mar 27 10:06:46 1997:

Oh, gee, let me think aobut that one ofr a sec... Most of the stuff I ahve
I like, but... I have Fixed somewhere, by NIN (don't ask me why, it's not
really mine) which really doesn't float my boat.


#3 of 76 by krj on Thu Mar 27 16:54:25 1997:

Mmmm, tough question.  THE FIRST FEW DROPS by the Whisky Priests
takes the "worst singer" prize: the guy is incapable of holding a 
pitch.  But the band's instrumental side is pretty good.
 
The most useless recent purchase would probably be "Quintette des 
Mandolines de Paris."  We like French music, we like mandolins, but 
even by the standards of cheesy French music this is pretty sad.


#4 of 76 by anderyn on Fri Mar 28 01:18:44 1997:

Oh, I really can't say... oh, all right, the stupidest purchase
I've made is a Lita Ford compilation disc. I don't even LIKE Lita
Ford. 


#5 of 76 by orinoco on Fri Mar 28 22:02:19 1997:

That's a toughie...I would actually have to say the Beatles anthology, just
because it sounds so unprofessional and ragged that it's hard to listen to.
Beatles fanatics may want to hear what it was like the first time they limped
through their songs, but for me it's just excruciating, especially in
comparison with the polished-sounding versions they released on their real
albums.


#6 of 76 by scott on Sat Mar 29 00:10:00 1997:

Probably my "Christmas with Slim Whitman" album, which I was given as a joke.
Aside from that, I'm going to go with a Jon Luc Ponty album I got as an
exchange for a damaged album (which the store didn't have another copy of).


#7 of 76 by lumen on Sun Mar 30 08:44:27 1997:

It's my "bitter" tape, by One Eye Open.  It's just an underground recording
made by a band a friend of mine was in.  I bought it to support them, and I
didn't even get the cool color jacket I could have gotten (it just a b/w
photocopy).  Anyway, I found most of the album was rather bad, save at least
one the local vocational high school station used to play all the time anyway.
he's done better work since.  I guess I'm just not all into that garage band
sound.


#8 of 76 by snow on Sat Apr 5 04:05:11 1997:

I would have to say that the most pathetic album I own would be Pearl Jam's
"Vitalogy."  I can't stand it.  all the songs are about the same, and...it's
just boring as all hell!  I can't stand it, and...uh...if anyone wants to buy
it, well... I'm willing to get rid of it ;)


#9 of 76 by mcnally on Sat Apr 5 08:31:54 1997:

  I'm really going to have to have a record party sometime to give
  my worst albums a public listening.  As little as I care for Pearl
  Jam about the worst you can say about their music is that it's not
  particularly original or interesting.  I've got things in my CD
  collection that Man Was Not Meant to Listen To -- things that are
  just blood-curdlingly bad..

  Aside from the Jad Fair album mentioned in #1 there's also this
  amazingly annoying album by Fred Frith entitled "Guitar Solos".
  I don't know *what* I was thinking when I bought that..  Word to
  the wise -- *never* buy an album of experimental guitar solos with
  tracks with names like "Alienated Industrial Seagulls."


#10 of 76 by scott on Sat Apr 5 13:55:29 1997:

I'd be interested in hearing that, actually!


#11 of 76 by raven on Sat Apr 5 16:56:45 1997:

One my meats ambrosia ia another mans poison.  I kind of like that Frith album,
(at least what I've heard of it) but isn't something I would listen to very
often.  The worst album I ever bought I think would have to In-ga-da-vida by
Iron Butterfly <yech, ouch, etc>.


#12 of 76 by krj on Sun Apr 6 04:51:32 1997:

I once thought "In A Gadda Da Vida" was the greatest rock album of all time.
I think this would have been for a couple of months when I was 14 years 
old.

Fred Frith is kind of out there, close to the edge of what I can 
interpret as music.  I really like some of the stuff he has done 
with Henry Kaiser.  On the other hand, at his Ark appearance
with Skeleton Crew, there was one point where he took a home-made
guitar-like contraption; pounded nails into it; and then started 
filing them.


#13 of 76 by mcnally on Sun Apr 6 06:02:13 1997:

  The album in question is a lot more like the latter.  
  18 tracks' worth..


#14 of 76 by bruin on Sun Apr 6 14:31:42 1997:

BTW, did any of you catch the episode of "The Simpsons" where Bart was passing
out sheet music at church and it turned out to be "In A Gadda Da Vida" (or
as the preacher said, "In The Garden Of Eden" by I. Ron Butterfly)?


#15 of 76 by kewy on Mon Apr 7 03:15:58 1997:

vitalogy, by pearl jam, i hate that album with a passion, my parents got it
for me.. first cd i ever owned..


#16 of 76 by senna on Mon Apr 7 04:51:16 1997:

Actually, I think Vitalogy is pretty good.  It has its bad points, 
though... the nonmusic tracks come immediately to mind.  The problem is 
that half the tracks actually suck.  The liner notes kinda drove me 
nuts, too.  If you want to hear good Pearl Jam, listen to Ten.

New nominations.. but not mine.  My youngest sister listens to some of 
the most hideous music known to man.


#17 of 76 by kewy on Mon Apr 7 18:52:28 1997:

yeah, i like ten, it's the album i don't own...ironicly. the rest of their
stuff is shit..


#18 of 76 by senna on Mon Apr 14 01:10:52 1997:

Ten was basically the first piece of modern music I ever listened to, and it's
still my favorite.  I can't get tired of that album.


#19 of 76 by orinoco on Sat Apr 19 20:05:25 1997:

'Let the power fall', by Fripp.  (not to be confused with Frith)  Some of the
most repetetive and obnoxious music I've heard in a while...


#20 of 76 by mcnally on Sun Apr 20 04:33:42 1997:

  Although I really like King Crimson and Fripp's work on many people's
  albums and though the performance of Fripp & his League of Crafty
  Guitarists I saw at the Power Center 7 or 8 years ago might have been
  the best concert I have seen or will ever see, even I must admit that
  Fripp's "Frippertronics" generally bores me to tears at best...
  I think that describing it as "pretentious and self-indulgent" would 
  be kind..


#21 of 76 by omni on Sun Apr 20 06:01:29 1997:

  I guess my answer to this would be a CD called "Pick This" which I got from
Tower for free, and to tell the honest truth, it was overpriced.

 I mean, Generators that are crossing over, and overloading sound better than
this CD


#22 of 76 by remmers on Mon Apr 21 15:23:32 1997:

My worst recordings are so old that they're probably not
available anymore (fortunately). I'm not sure if I still have
'em, but if I do, my worst are probably a couple of albums by
a 60's rock group called The Free Design. I believe they
appeared semi-regularly on Arthur Godfrey's radio show.


#23 of 76 by orinoco on Tue Apr 22 22:40:58 1997:

mcnally--who are league of crafty guitarists?  any relation to the california
guitar trio?  I haven't been able to find *anything* by or about either of
them.


#24 of 76 by scott on Wed Apr 23 00:17:21 1997:

I've got a couple CDs sfrom both.  "Guitar Craft" is a guitar
seminar/program/system that Robert Fripp started a few year back.  League of
Crafty Guitarists was a p.rforming offshoot of that, and California Guitar
Trio were in Guitar Craft.  I think that Tower has some LoCG stuff in the
Fripp bin.


#25 of 76 by mcnally on Wed Apr 23 04:51:50 1997:

 Scott basically sums it up.  At least two and possibly all three of the
 California Guitar Trio are ex-Crafties.  For my money, "Invitation" by
 the California Guitar Trio is the best of the Crafty-Guitarist-related
 projects I've bought.  There's also the "Robert Fripp String Quintet"
 which I think was basically Fripp, Trey Gunn, and the CA Guitar Trio..


#26 of 76 by orinoco on Sat Apr 26 16:44:27 1997:

It would be a lot more convenient if Fripp would stop doing these damn
collaborations with everyone and confusing the hell out of me.  NOt that I'm
arguing....
I heard the California Guitar Trio opening for King Crimson when they were
in town a while back, but haven't been able to find their stuff since.  I was
truly impressed, especially by some baroque-ish stuff they played.  All three
were playing acoustic guitars which had been electrified somehow and were
*loud*.  I was amazed by how rhythmic their music got, being as they had none
of the traditional 'rhythm instruments', or even a bass guitar.


#27 of 76 by katie on Wed Apr 30 03:20:27 1997:

Working Classs Hero: A Tribute To John Lennon. One good song--Mary-Chapin
Carpenter's "Grow Old With Me", and the rest are heavy metal versions of
Lennon songs. Pure crap.


#28 of 76 by katt on Sun May 11 16:59:13 1997:

Hmm tough one.. .
I think it's a tue between "Andy Grifith-Someone Bigger than you and I" and
"Music to Moog by". 
The Andy Grifith was given to me by a friend who mistakenly thought it would
have the theme from the Andy Griffith show on it(it's a bunch of sappy TV god
songs), and Music to moog BY has all these covers of sixties and seventies
pop-love somgs done on a moog. There's a cut and paste pictur on the front
of it with a piture of a pink bed with lips in the middle of it and a patch
bay sticking out the back., . .
eek. 


#29 of 76 by orinoco on Fri May 16 21:41:45 1997:

Any relation to the Moog Cookbook?
I heard the version of "Smells Like Teen Spirit" off of that a while ago.
It was frightening.


#30 of 76 by arianna on Tue May 20 04:01:34 1997:

I own my very own copy of "Dive" by Sarah Brightman, whom you all may know
of as the woman who sang Christine in "Phantom of the Opera" on the most
prolific recording of that show (the London cast).  She went and did her very
own album of stupid new age crap.

A close second or even tie with that one is the copy of a demo made by
Majesty, which was a band that later became known as Dream Theater.  Dream
Theater is okay, but Majesty sucked hard.


#31 of 76 by kewy on Fri May 30 19:03:02 1997:

what's a moog? just thought i'd ask..


#32 of 76 by scott on Fri May 30 23:54:06 1997:

Early brand of synthesizer.  "Switched on Bach" used one, it is the giant
panel of knobs and wires in the album cover shot.  Moog made same very cool
stuff, but didn't make it into the digital world.


#33 of 76 by katt on Mon Jun 2 18:00:58 1997:

You can see one in the sterns collection at the Music ASchool if you're really
curious, and if you look there's a HOST of bad cover records that are just
the height of kitch put out with them.  .


#34 of 76 by krj on Thu Jun 5 04:50:14 1997:

Curiously, Dick Hyman's Moog synthesizer album has just been released
on CD.  I assume this is part of the campaign to cash in on all 
sorts of 60's cheesy things.


#35 of 76 by katt on Mon Jun 9 14:46:30 1997:

Undoubtedly. . .I guess moogs-which used to be sold for next to nothing in
flea markets-go for quite a bit these days as a result. I'm sorry I didn't
pick one up when they were still cheap; I'm way into music concrete from,
like, the fifties and sixties. . .


#36 of 76 by orinoco on Thu Jun 12 01:41:54 1997:

Yeah...I was over at the newish used instrument store (The store is newish,
the instruments are used) in town, and they had and old Moog and an ARP
Oddysey and some other crazy old stuff.  Didn't check the prices, though...


#37 of 76 by katt on Fri Jun 13 02:00:42 1997:

Which store?


#38 of 76 by orinoco on Sun Jun 15 15:33:14 1997:

I don't actually recall the name...it's up on North Main, I belive.
I may actually be imagining the whole thing :)


#39 of 76 by orinoco on Sun Jun 29 14:05:05 1997:

The store's name is Boss, katt.
And I'm afraid I'm going to have to update my vote for 'worst recording' to
*another* King-Crimson-related album:  Thrakkatakk
The idea was promising--an album of live improvisation.  Having seen King
Crimson perform live, and been quite impressed, I was hoping to hear something
worthwhile somewhere on the album.

I didn't.


#40 of 76 by scott on Sun Jun 29 17:43:58 1997:

It's great programming music.  I don't listen when I program much though. 
THRAK itself got me thr a long hard weekend of programming once.  :)


#41 of 76 by mcnally on Mon Jun 30 06:19:37 1997:

  Fripp usually controls himself in the studio but he's completely capable
  of producing god-awful crap and/or phenomenally self-indulgent tripe on
  a bad day.  Thanks for the warning about "Thrakkatakk"



#42 of 76 by orinoco on Fri Jul 4 20:39:23 1997:

Speaking of live crimson, a while ago, at the Rock and Roll hall o' fame, I
looked up KingCrimson on their little touch-screen computer deals out of
curiousity.  Amazingly enough, it had a nice little blurb on them, which
mentioned a live EP from around the time of Red and Starless.  Has anyone
heard of this?


#43 of 76 by mcnally on Sat Jul 5 17:27:04 1997:

  The only official live Crimson releases I can recall were
  "USA", "Earthbound", and recent stuff like the boxed sets
  and live performances of the new lineup.  As far as I know
  both USA and Earthbound were deleted from the catalog when
  Caroline started releasing the old Crimson stuff after JEM
  folded..


#44 of 76 by orinoco on Sun Jul 6 19:15:49 1997:

damn.


#45 of 76 by diznave on Sun Sep 14 22:42:21 1997:

Ken, I know what you went through with Iron Butterfly. I went through the same
thing with Boston. Gawd!! I listened to their _Don't Look Back_ album last
year, for the first time in at least 10 years. Now I know why. Putrid! I look
back at my taste in music, circa. 1980-84, and try not to cry. Boston,
Blue-Oyster Cult, Kansas, AC/DC,Van Halen....sickening (no offense, llanarth).
My days of listening to bad music are OVER (although my roomate insists that
this is NOT the case, whenever I throw on an old Spyro-Gyra album).


#46 of 76 by orinoco on Sun Sep 14 22:51:48 1997:

I've got a new nomination, myself.
Magnets At the Bottom of the Sea - a compilation of local punk bands.  Truely
painful.


#47 of 76 by mcnally on Mon Sep 15 14:53:31 1997:

  I don't own it so it doesn't really qualify but I heard some
  amazingly awful, discordant, and pretentious music by an act
  called "The Shadow Ring" on WDET (or was it WCBN?) last night.

  Apparently they're playing a show in the area soon so if any
  of you are looking for the perfect setting to enhance the
  mood when you break up with your SO or tell your parents that
  you're changing your name to "La" and re-forming the Heaven's
  Gate sect and by the way, can you have some money for some
  new black Nikes then look no further than this show..


#48 of 76 by orinoco on Mon Sep 15 21:19:21 1997:

<grin>...that must be pretty bad...


#49 of 76 by goroke on Sun Sep 27 14:04:33 1998:

Worst album I own is also one of my most prized possessions: Mrs. Miller's
Greatest Hits.  I absolutely *cringe* to her rendition of "Downtown"...


#50 of 76 by happyboy on Mon Sep 28 01:09:03 1998:

i would love some mrs miller!

the worst music i've ever owned?
Lenny Dee  "Hi-Fi Organ Solos with a BEAT"
i actually bought the entire lenny dee collection
from pj's for something like a buck & a half back in
87...lenny dee is great for waking up your housemates.


#51 of 76 by eeyore on Thu Oct 15 14:34:13 1998:

When I used to work at one store, we sold new-age music....and I managed to
inherit (much to my extreme displeasure) "Pan Flutes By The Ocean".  And of
course it was my "Celtic Guitar" cd that had to missing and not the Pan
Flute one!  (sigh)



#52 of 76 by mcnally on Thu Oct 15 16:56:15 1998:

  "Pan Flutes by the Ocean"?  That really does sound dreadful!


#53 of 76 by gypsi on Thu Oct 15 18:35:36 1998:

My uncle gave me Hanson's Christmas album for my birthday (in
January).  Ugh...  He used to buy me Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, the
Doors, Steve Miller Band, etc, but something weird happened to him
last year.  Mom said he's become a Born-Again...never thought it
meant I couldn't scam cool psychedelic posters and music from him
anymore.  ;-)


#54 of 76 by lumen on Fri Oct 16 01:23:48 1998:

What's so f**king wrong with pan flutes?!?  I like Zamfir's "Ave Maria"-- the
instrument lends itself well to the piece..


#55 of 76 by cloud on Fri Oct 16 02:42:11 1998:

I think it's the combanation of pan flutes and oceans, Jon...


#56 of 76 by lumen on Fri Oct 16 21:28:51 1998:

Maybe you're right.


#57 of 76 by diznave on Mon Oct 19 17:32:18 1998:

Some friends of mine recently moved to Portland, and left me with one of their
prized possesions. An LP version of _We Are The World_.  <shudder>   Not only
was everyone's voice a bit off during the session, and not only was it
horrible music (if you ignore the lyrics), but -everyone's- hair was (with
the possible exception of Bob Dylan) quite askew. <double shudder>



#58 of 76 by lumen on Mon Oct 19 22:20:14 1998:

What's worse was the whole idea behind that recording..  did a handout really
fix the root of the problem-- their oppressive government?


#59 of 76 by sekari on Tue Oct 20 06:05:36 1998:

i would have to say that the worst thing i own is a tape of a death metal 
band called 'dark ages'. it's one of those self produced things, a little
better looking than a demo tape, but not really. it is really very awful, I
don't know where i got it or why i havn't used the tape for something
worthwhile. 


#60 of 76 by isis on Thu Dec 31 07:04:45 1998:

I would have to say a group called Blade Fetish...*shudder*


#61 of 76 by otaking on Thu Feb 25 18:20:25 1999:

The worst thing I own is "Hooked on Classics." Parts of classical music turned
into disco music. Ick.

A close second would be the BMG Music Club's free Alternative CD. It featured
bands I've never heard of and hope I never do again.


#62 of 76 by eeyore on Fri Feb 26 01:40:24 1999:

Actually, I'm still quite fond of my "Hooked on Classics" cd...:)


#63 of 76 by kewy on Sat Mar 6 05:29:11 1999:

my mom has that cd.. I think it's just... bizarre.


#64 of 76 by eeyore on Sat Mar 6 05:35:48 1999:

It's great to throw into to the cd player and jam to while cleaning. :)


#65 of 76 by cloud on Wed Mar 10 02:17:20 1999:

weird.


#66 of 76 by cloud on Wed Mar 10 02:18:32 1999:

I mean the CD, not the cleaning
(although, in my house, cleaning is considered weird too...)


#67 of 76 by krj on Wed Mar 10 06:55:18 1999:

We fall over laughing at the beginning of Ray Manzarek's recording
of Carl Orff's "Carmina Burana."  I don't know that this qualifies 
as truly bad, though; it was a noble attempt.  (Manzarek was the 
keyboard player for The Doors, for those of you who might not 
recognize his name.)
 
I bought a pre-release copy of an album by a band called 
SHALLOW, NORTH DAKOTA.  The album title is "This Apparatus Must 
Be Earthed."  The copy made it sound like the album might be 
some sort of interesting punk/roots cross, but it really does seem 
to be 40 minutes of undifferentiated guitar noises.


#68 of 76 by mcnally on Wed Mar 10 19:54:44 1999:

  The Manzarek attempt at "Carmina Burana" is currently featured in the
  window at Encore (for those who aren't Ann Arbor residents, Encore is
  a local used-record store that keeps a display of famously bad or 
  humorous LPs in its front window..)


#69 of 76 by orinoco on Thu Mar 11 02:13:11 1999:

(...along with, for some reason, a copy of the local band Flashpapr's latest
album.  I'm surprised someone from Flashpapr hasn't complained)


#70 of 76 by bruin on Thu Mar 11 03:31:12 1999:

RE #68 Encore Recordings is also famous for putting LP's by artists who have
recently died in their front window from time to time.


#71 of 76 by md on Fri Mar 12 00:39:36 1999:

I don't think I own it anymore, but some time in the
late 1960s an album by a person named Van Dyke Parks
was released.  I read a review of it in some magazine
that made it sound like the greatest thing since The
Beatles -- I mean, they just *raved* about it -- so I
went out and bought it.  Forgettable tunes, and lyrics
consisting of verbal noodling ("free-association").
I listened to it an awful lot, thinking I must be
missing something, but whatever it was I never found
it.  There was one instrumental version of "Black is
the Color of My True Love's Hair" that had a music-
box-like opening that I developed a mild liking for,
but that was about it.  Anyone else ever heard of this
album?


#72 of 76 by mcnally on Fri Mar 12 06:22:35 1999:

  Van Dyke Parks actually has quite a number of albums.  

  He seems to be one of those musicians that other people
  and artists whose taste I usually respect rave about
  but that do little or nothing for me (another great
  example of people who fall into this category would be
  Captain Beefheart (or Don Van Vliet..))


#73 of 76 by lumen on Fri Mar 12 06:30:59 1999:

Well, you can't win 'em all.  There's the professional music scene, and 
then there's the music that is a commercial success, and then there are 
the musicians that make just as many shameless plugs for other artists 
as paid promoters and marketers do.  Not all of them pick winners.


#74 of 76 by gypsi on Fri Nov 5 12:20:28 1999:

The absolute worst album I own is a Sesame Street soundtrack of sorts.  It
has quite a few annoying songs, and the ONLY reason I kept it was due to
nostalgia.  When our neighbors in the dorms would annoy us, we'd turn it up
*REALLY LOUD*.  =)  


#75 of 76 by otaking on Fri Nov 5 13:42:46 1999:

I have a new worst recording. Someone as a joke gave me a tape of Teletubbies
stuff. Ugh!


#76 of 76 by dbratman on Tue Nov 9 02:41:54 1999:

I watched two episodes of Teletubbies last year, and as a result I can 
still sing, or rather hum, the Teletubbies theme song; and I've even 
caught myself doing so.

Above there was a reference to Ray Manzarek's "Carmina Burana".  I 
haven't heard this, but almost all the attempts I have heard by rock 
musicians to play classical music have been excrutiatingly bad, and that 
includes Emerson, Lake and Palmer's Aaron Copland, which was too painful 
to be funny.  They haven't got the classical chops, that's the problem; 
and all they're doing is proving this.

(One conspicuous exception is John Tout, whose Debussy is better than 
most people's.)


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