Grex Music2 Conference

Item 315: The Sixth Napster Item

Entered by polygon on Sun Jun 24 02:40:27 2001:

The ongoing discussion of intellectual property, freedom of expression,
electronic media, corporate control, and evolving technology continues
into the summer.
151 responses total.

#1 of 151 by ceyx on Sun Jun 24 08:54:30 2001:

Well what can you do? I loved it, but normally if it's to good to be true then
it normally is.


#2 of 151 by micklpkl on Mon Jun 25 20:17:58 2001:

From the latest Roxio (EZ CD Creator) e-mailing:

Apparently some of our customers have misinterpreted our new partnership

with EMI. This is somewhat understandable in that there has been nothing

less than a "holy war" being waged between content owners and some high
profile internet entrepreneurs.

The fact is, however, that Roxio in no way intends to restrict
functionality, or obstruct the free and easy burning of content. The
EMI/Roxio deal is about enabling -- not disabling.

Roxio is hardly waving a white flag here. We have pro-actively fought
and lobbied the labels to allow more burning functionality, not less.
Our customers will continue to be able to burn all the content they burn

now (regardless of the source--CD collection, mp3 files, downloads,
etc.). Roxio's mantra is "Burn Everything". We have no intention of
deviating from this fundamental promise to our customer.

We think the major significance of the EMI/Roxio partnership is that one

of the largest record companies in the world has publicly recognized
that digital distribution doesn't work without burning. This is a huge
win for the consumer in getting closer to delivering on the promise of
the "celestial jukebox".

Thank you,

Chris Gorog, President and CEO, roxio

***********

Also in the same e-mail, it was announced that there is now an update to EZ
CD Creator 4.02 that "fixes" the Audio Recognition feature that "broke" when
CDDB threw a spanner in the works. 


#3 of 151 by krj on Tue Jun 26 05:07:00 2001:

I tend to use this item as a running weblog for news stories and essays
which I find of interest; hope everyone else isn't too bored.

http://www.newmediamusic.com/articles/NM01060306.html
"Don't Let The New DRM Standards End Up In A Chorus of Disapproval"
 
I can never be certain if author Larry Powers at New Media Music is 
utterly brilliant or just blowing really pretty smoke rings.  
In today's essay Powers talks about how the music industry in 
the past has created "the illusion of ownership" for LP/tape/CD 
consumers, and how the DRM systems threaten to destroy that illusion.
But, according to Powers, the labels don't grasp that when they 
trash the consumers' illusion of ownership -- with song files which 
expire after 30 days, or which have a limited number of plays --
they will damage the value of their intellecutal property holdings.
Powers cites the first DiVX DVD system, the one which involved 
players which had to phone home for authorization to play the disc,
as an example of what might be in store for the music industry
if they continue on their present course.


#4 of 151 by krj on Tue Jun 26 05:18:03 2001:

http://musicdish.com/mag/?id=4017
"Dear Artists, Take Control Now While You Can"
 
The hook quotes economist David Friedman:
 "Mark Twain made a lot of his money lecturing, not selling books. His books
 were more or less promotional tools. In the future, creative people will have
 to accept a similar business model. Current copyright laws simply won't be
 enforceable..." (paraphrased) 

The article also mentions a Chinese artist-management agency which 
has thrown in the towel on CD piracy, which is rampant in Asia.
The agency has now adopted a policy of manufacturing just enough 
CDs to get the interest of the pirates; the agency then lets the pirates
assume the costs of manufacturing and distributing the discs, which 
the agency now regards as promotional tools for concerts.

Musicdish.com is somewhat amateurish, but I have found their essays 
worth checking in for.

----------

I had another article which discusses the original Napster, and its 
file sharing successors, as the only consumer-driven online distribution
system to date, but I've lost the reference...


#5 of 151 by krj on Tue Jun 26 05:22:48 2001:

     (((  Summer Agora #22 now linked as Music conference #315.
          Previous items in this series can be found in the Music
          conference: items 240, 279, 280, 294 & 304.            )))


#6 of 151 by krj on Wed Jun 27 17:50:56 2001:

I stuck a response in the music conference (item:music,293) about the 
financial difficulties and possible bankruptcy of Tower Records.
Requoting from the L.A. Times: 
 
"Music merchants say sales are down 5% to 10% for the first six 
 months of the year..." 

The LA Times story mentions lots of causes for Tower's problems,
and for the general fall in music sales.  Curiously, Napster is 
never mentioned.

One wag somewhere (mp3.com/news, maybe?) argues that the falloff in 
music sales has accelerated as Napster has been fettered with 
filters, and as all measurements report that less and less music is 
being traded through the Napster system.  So, he argues, this shows
that Napster actually was helping drive sales of music. 

(That argument is probably about as valid as the argument that 
Napster was damaging sales in 2000...)


#7 of 151 by danr on Wed Jun 27 18:44:13 2001:

Could it be, perhaps, that music is getting just too damn expensive? 
I'm not a big music buff like many of you, but how many CDs can the 
average person buy at $20 a pop?


#8 of 151 by slynne on Wed Jun 27 19:44:06 2001:

I buy less than 10 cd's a year and so far this year have gotten over 50 
free ones from work. 


#9 of 151 by polygon on Wed Jun 27 21:24:30 2001:

It has been years since I have purchased a new CD in a store -- mainly
because the prices are so high.  I have never used Napster.

I do occasionally buy CDs from the artists directly, at concerts.

I think the last CD I bought from Tower was a cutout, and it was at least
seven years ago.


#10 of 151 by senna on Wed Jun 27 21:49:29 2001:

I have never used Napster (and the only time I ever downloaded mp3s at all
was a couple of years ago when I downloaded perhaps 20 live Tool songs not
available on any cd.  They were deleted some time ago).  I buy cds a lot less
than I used to.  I think part of the problem is that music isn't as good. 
Sales boomed during the early alternative period, when not only grunge but
also rap produced large volumes of sales, but nothing new has moved in to take
its place.  Electronica was hyped as the next alternative explosion several
years ago (with much discussion of how record execs were packing electronic
dance clubs the way they used to pack Seattle shows in the late 80s and early
90s), but nothing came of it.

I've puchased two new cds this year, both from bands formed and popularized
in the early 90s.  The difference?  Tool and Radiohead have both gotten a lot
better as they've gone along.  Few bands mature musically the way they have.


#11 of 151 by dbratman on Thu Jun 28 05:55:02 2001:

resp: 3 - I went and read this article, and I'm still not sure what the 
authors mean by "the illusion of ownership" in regard to old/current 
practices of selling recordings.  What illusion?

resp: 4 - David Friedman's clever notion that authors will live by 
lecturing is not a new one: I think it came from Faith Popcorn 
earlier.  But it's fallacious.  Some authors lecture well; some don't, 
or dislike it so much that they'd give up authorship first.  There's a 
limit to how many lectures a practicing author can give and still 
write, which means that to live on it, the fees have to be high.  But 
I've heard a few high-paid lecturers meander on at conferences - John 
Perry Barlow was a notably ill-prepared example - and my willingness to 
pay big bucks to hear these people burble is strictly limited.


#12 of 151 by brighn on Thu Jun 28 13:54:47 2001:

My CD budget is around $100/month, which gets me about 7 CDs. I stopped
shopping at Tower when I moved out of Lansing, though that one went to shit
after Mark left anyway.


#13 of 151 by gull on Thu Jun 28 14:23:17 2001:

I buy the vast majority of my CDs used.


#14 of 151 by flem on Thu Jun 28 16:23:42 2001:

I apologize if these links aren't new here; I've not been following the
discussion.  They're about comic strips rather than online music, but the
argument applies to any content.  

part 1
http://www.scottmccloud.com/comics/icst/icst-5/icst-5.html

part 2
http://www.thecomicreader.com/html/icst/icst-6/icst-6.html


#15 of 151 by brighn on Thu Jun 28 16:36:06 2001:

I've read part one, and I like -- but question -- the implication that, if
web-based art is provided at a fair price, people will stop macking it.
Napster (specifically referred to, visually) is, after all, a form of
shoplifting, vitually speaking... its users justify the behavior on the dual
grounds that (a) CDs cost too much and (b) too much of the money goes to
fatcat RIAA guys, but would the virtual shoplifting really stop if prices were
lower? Shareware has been around for years, and most shareware packages have
a reasonably priced registration fee (WinZip is, what, $20 or so?), but most
people I know (including myself) still don't pony up the dough (yes, I'm
admitting I'm a virtual shoplifter, too).

Of course, shareware continues because enough people pony up the registration
fees to make it worth the while of the developers... with the negligible
overhead involved in shareware distribution, especially on-line, the only
thing that money goes to is development time.


#16 of 151 by flem on Thu Jun 28 16:58:37 2001:

Read part 2, and perhaps his followup to the flame war that this apparently
started <pause for link-finding>:
http://www.scottmccloud.com/home/xtra/backlash.html
  He addresses just that issue.   Briefly, his response is that no, of course
it won't stop pirating, but it will make it less common, because 1) for the
average person, paying a small fee with a few clicks will be less trouble than
going through the effort to get it for free, and 2) people will be less
likely to go to the trouble of providing bandwidth, disk, and access to 
things just to save someone else the trouble of paying a few cents.  


#17 of 151 by brighn on Thu Jun 28 17:23:28 2001:

Ah, so, basically what I suggested in para 2 of #15, i.e., that pirating will
continue, but that *enough* people will pony up to make it worth the time,
and the artist will still wind up netting more than going through traditional
publication channels. I'm inclined to agree.


#18 of 151 by krj on Thu Jun 28 19:10:38 2001:

Here's a report claiming that Napster is about to disable the older, 
"free" versions of its user software, to force everyone to download
the new security-enhanced software.   The report goes on with 
an account of what the new Napster pricing system will be, and argues
that it is priced to be a certain failure in the market.

Mp3newswire.net is a kind of amateurish site, and I haven't seen this
stuff reconfirmed elsewhere, so you might take it with a grain of salt
for now.  However, this report does confirm my original speculation 
from back in February that Napster's fate was to become just a branding
for some minor variant on the BMG centralized download system which 
has already been rejected by the market.

http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/2001/napstersleep.html


#19 of 151 by krj on Thu Jun 28 20:49:53 2001:

Here's a mainstream media story on the simultaneous crash in both 
Napster users and CD sales, which I discussed in vague terms in resp:6 ::
 
http://www.latimes.com/business/cotown/20010620/t000051058.html

"The numbers raise the issue of whether Napster truly represented the 
doomsday for record companies that some industry executives predicted.
And they call into question the RIAA's contention that Napster would 
cause 'immeasurable' harm to the business."
 
..."Slumping sales may have more to do with a comparatively weak release
schedule, a stumbling national economy and the popularity of video games
and other competing forms of entertainment."


#20 of 151 by krj on Thu Jun 28 20:55:20 2001:

Ooops, forgot part of the article I wanted to quote:
"SoundScan research shows total music sales are down about 5.7% from
the same period last year, dragged down by giant drops in sales of the 
singles format and cassettes...
 
"The story with CDs is even more intriguing.  According to SoundScan, 
CD sales from January through March 4 were up 5.6% from the period a 
year earlier.   But for the period from March 5 -- just after Napster 
began removing copyrighted material from its service -- through June
122, CD sales were behind last year's numbers by 0.9%"   

I did not realize (1) the overall crash in music sales is concentrated in
singles and cassettes, and (2) that CD sales so closely correlated to 
the imposition of Napster filters.


#21 of 151 by brighn on Thu Jun 28 20:55:33 2001:

So far, 2001 has turned out mediocre musical product. The crashes could easily
be coincidental. They could also be anti-RIAA backlash by Napsterites... it
doesn't demonstrate (on that analysis) that Napster wasn't adversely affecting
Majors buisness, it would only demonstrate that the RIAA's handling of the
issue adversely affected Majors business (which it would... regardless of the
morality of Napster, the RIAA acted like Prime Bastards).

And none of it really changes the morality, ethics, or legality of Napster.
A clear proof that Napster was helping the Majors still wouldn't affect
whether it was moral, ethical, or legal a priori.


#22 of 151 by krj on Thu Jun 28 21:07:49 2001:

Actually it does reflect on the legal situation.  All of the legal 
fighting so far has been over a preliminary injunction; the argument 
for the preliminary injunction is that Napster was causing irreparable
harm to the record companies.   Napster has still not had its trial;
I have no idea at this point if Napster is *ever* going to have its 
trial.   

I propose that one way in which irreparable harm to the record companies
should have been apparent is in diminished sales.  The sales figures
we have now show a NEGATIVE correlation between Napster usage and CD
sales; thus no irreparable harm, thus there should have been no 
preliminary injunction.
 
Napster may still be liable for statutory or actual
damages for copyright infringement, but these damages alone do not 
warrant a preliminary injunction before the full trial.


#23 of 151 by brighn on Thu Jun 28 21:50:49 2001:

Mm... I'll grant that it does obviously impact on the irreparable harm issue.
I was think of the intellectual property issue, and had forgotten that that
wasn't the only (or even the major) part of the suit. My mistake.


#24 of 151 by senna on Thu Jun 28 22:09:26 2001:

I'm surprised that there's distress about singles and cassette sales, both
of which are music formats that have been running downhill for years.  In my
early high school years, most retail centers still had healthy cassette
sections, but barely anything exists now.  



#25 of 151 by brighn on Fri Jun 29 04:57:25 2001:

At this rate, an early prediction of mine -- that cassette will actually be
discontinued before LPs -- may actually bear out.


#26 of 151 by krj on Fri Jun 29 16:09:54 2001:

Beta News reports on a preview they were given of the Real Networks
/MusicNet online distribution system.
 
http://www.betanews.com/article.php3?sid=993552636

"Each MusicNet file will contain code to verify that it may be 
played locally or streamed. Upon playback, a central clearinghouse 
is contacted to confirm a license has been issued for the song. 
If a user does not have the necessary tokens, a notice will appear 
prompting for the purchase of more."

As I read the article, it sounds like the playback system requires
a network connection so the software can phone home to see if it 
is authorized to play the song file.   The user can download song
files freely, but must buy tokens in order to play them.  

If I'm right, heaven help them; they have reinvented the Divx system 
for DVD licensing, a system which was a spectacular market failure,
almost totally rejected by consumers.


#27 of 151 by krj on Thu Jul 5 02:58:08 2001:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/2001-07-03-net-radio-usat.htm
 
"Net Radio Tangos With The Law."
 
The RIAA is suing a number of "webcasting" firms claiming
that their offerings are more interactive than is allowed 
under the Digital Millenium Copyright Act.  Allowing users to 
choose what will be streamed to them is a no-no, according 
to the RIAA's interpretation of the law.  

Lawsuit targets include MTV's SonicNet, Launch, MusicMatch and 
Xact.  The article says that the RIAA did not take on MSN's 
streaming offering, even though it is essentially similar 
in functionality to the sued firms.

The article says that most musicians are lining up against the 
RIAA this time, in contrast to the Napster suit.


#28 of 151 by brighn on Thu Jul 5 13:57:53 2001:

Of course the RIAA didn't go after MS. It saw what happens when the govt sues
MS, what chance do THEY have?


#29 of 151 by mdw on Fri Jul 6 06:49:55 2001:

It just goes to show the sharks know each other.


#30 of 151 by brighn on Fri Jul 6 13:13:22 2001:

Professional courtesy ("Why don't sharks eat lawyers?" and "Why doesnt the
RIAA sue MSN?")



#31 of 151 by krj on Fri Jul 6 18:21:59 2001:

ZDnet has a nice survey article on six foolhardy firms trying to follow
in Napster's footsteps.  OK, some of them really aren't "firms."
Let's say, a review of six Napster replacements, plus the state of the 
original Napster, which one user now describes as "an elaborate chat
program."
 
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2782840,00.html

Reviewed are:  Aimster, Audiogalaxy, Gnutella, iMesh, OpenNap, and
Kazaa-Music City Morpheus.


#32 of 151 by brighn on Fri Jul 6 19:31:10 2001:

Yeah, somebody today directed me to Morpheus. I would have expected that,
after the nonsense with Napster, any similar site (especially one that claims
to be "better" than Napster explicitly) would have HUGE notices about
copyright infringement... READ THIS READ THIS READ THIS. Instead, it took me
a few minutes to find it, buried several sections below the snake-in-Eden
temptation of "Morpheus has no control over what people share."


#33 of 151 by russ on Sat Jul 7 17:44:22 2001:

Re #28:  Plenty of chances.  Look what Sun got after going after
M$ for violating the Java license terms.


#34 of 151 by krj on Tue Jul 10 21:24:38 2001:

According to a news story on http://www.mp3.com/news, Napster shut
down on July 3 and it has not returned.   The main Napster web page
confirms that "File transfers have been temporarily suspended while
Napster upgrades the databases that support our new file identification
technology.  Keep checking this space for updates."
 
Um, Napster's been turned OFF for a week and I haven't seen a news story
about it until today?   Sheesh.  I don't think the idea of making
money off the former Napster user base is going to fly, if the 
end of Napster's file trading service stirs only a whimper in the
news.


#35 of 151 by krj on Wed Jul 11 04:42:12 2001:

Here's the Cnet story on the disconnection of Napster:

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6537921.html?tag=tp_pr

(cue theme music from "JAWS"  :)    )
 
"Sources close to the case say that court documents still under 
seal  have deeply influenced the company's actions over the 
past few weeks -- including its decision to go dark rather than 
allow filtered trading on its service."
 
The overall thrust of the story is that the record industry believes
the precedents it has won in the Napster case will allow it quick victories
in the future over other file-trading systems.
 
The story talks a lot about the impact of "audio fingerprinting" technology
as a means to halt the unauthorized trading of song files.  What few 
is left unsaid in the article is this:  a Napster which effectively 
filters unauthorized song files has no reason to exist.


#36 of 151 by krj on Wed Jul 11 20:47:58 2001:

Macrovision says they have a CD copy-prevention system ready to roll out.
No details are available in the two stories I have seen.  They claim
you will be able to play the CDs on computer CD-rom drives but not 
rip them.  ???
 
http://www.macrovision.com/safeaudio1.html
 
and a press release at:
http://www.newmediamusic.com/articles/NM01070093.html



#37 of 151 by krj on Thu Jul 12 04:12:23 2001:

From Friday's New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/12/technology/ebusiness/12NAPS.html

Trial court judge Marilyn Patel (remember her?  We haven't heard
much from her lately)  has ordered Napster to remain shut
down until their filtering system is 100% effective at 
preventing the exchange of copyrighted material.  Napster 
claims its filtering system is 99.4% effective and Patel says 
that is not good enough.

Napster will appeal.


#38 of 151 by gull on Thu Jul 12 12:32:03 2001:

The filtering system they have at the moment is 100% effective -- nothing
gets through. ;>


#39 of 151 by krj on Thu Jul 12 14:17:03 2001:

What I don't understand is how Patel's order can be congruent with the 
appeals court ruling on the preliminary injunction.  This seems to be 
the order Patel wanted to issue originally, which was substantially 
modified under the direction of the appeals court, and now she's gone 
back to it.


#40 of 151 by krj on Thu Jul 12 16:37:48 2001:

Longer AP story on the Patel ruling at:
http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,45184,00.html

Napster CEO Hank Barry agrees with me that the Patel ruling 
goes directly against the appeals court order, and furthermore its
logic makes the operating of any file sharing system impossible.


#41 of 151 by brighn on Thu Jul 12 17:41:22 2001:

I would agree that a 90%+ effective system definitely represents a good faith
effort on the part of the system operators, and should be "good enough."


#42 of 151 by krj on Fri Jul 13 08:06:19 2001:

More detailed stories on the Patel order are popping up everywhere; it was
a closed-door hearing so I guess the leaks are taking a while.
 
-------

Cnet ran an article Thursday on the growing tussle between libraries
and librarians on the one hand, and the copyright industry on the other.
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-201-6545588-0.html
 
In a future world where every access to copyrighted material is 
controlled by the copyright owner, and charged for, and where material
is routinely destroyed if the user doesn't continue to pay for 
it, it's not clear how libraries continue to exist.  

Quote:  
> What's more, as a rising number of copyright owners and software 
> developers turn to licensing models, librarians worry that they'll 
> be forced to pay perpetual rent on a product or lose the work--a
> possibility that could endanger the important archival role
> of their institutions. 

> "If I buy a book, take care of it, and nobody rips it off, I'll
> still have it 500 years from now," said Jim Neal, dean of
> libraries at Johns Hopkins University. "But if I buy an
> electronic book and don't keep paying for it, it's gone." 

Cnet found an inflammatory quote from the Association of American Publishers
comparing some librarians to "Ruby Ridge or Waco types" for wanting to 
preserve free access to material for their users.


#43 of 151 by tpryan on Sun Jul 15 14:55:40 2001:

        Interesting how those publishers who propably consider Ben
Franklin as part of their heritage, would also brand Ben Franklin
as one of those "Waco types".


#44 of 151 by krj on Wed Jul 18 03:24:51 2001:

http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,45279,00.html

Paraphrasing the teaser: MP3 files are easy to use and interoperable
with lots of software and hardware.  But -- other than consumers --
no one wants to use the format.  :)
 
The copyright industry has decided that consumer choice and convenience
takes a back seat to making files copy-proof.  Software firms have now 
decided that they have to make products to appeal to the copyright
industry rather than to consumers.   The Napster tale is horrific...:

> Napster, the file-trading service that was the bastion of free,
> downloadable music, has recently become the poster child for
> secure music. On Monday, Napster unveiled more of its plans for
> security, announcing plans for a proprietary digital music player
> that will be used with its new subscription service set to launch
> before the end of summer. 
>
> The new service won't allow consumers to move their music
> away from the Napster file-trading network to other media
> players like RealJukebox or Windows Media Player. Instead, the
> service will only play proprietary ".Nap" files on the new player. 
> The Napster system will take MP3 files that run through its main
> server and create the new, proprietary format, said Dube. 
>
> "Napster is doing this because their chance for survival is to
> leverage the huge volume of MP3s out there," said Dube. "They
> saw this as a business strategy, to leverage all those MP3s out
> there." 

I can just see the customers lining up to pay money for restricted-use
files...  


#45 of 151 by krj on Wed Jul 18 03:37:14 2001:

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns9999998
 
is a story on the previously-mentioned Macrovision system to 
prevent CDs from being copied by computer systems.  The New Scientist
article has some information on how the system works.
It's still very sketchy.


#46 of 151 by gull on Wed Jul 18 13:04:45 2001:

Re #44: That's no good.  How'm I supposed to use 'em in my portable MP3 
player? ;>

Re #45: Wonder if anyone's tried cdparanoia on one of these discs.  
I've seen it rip clean audio off discs so scratched up they wouldn't 
finish playing in a regular CD player.  There's a similarly good 
Windows ripper, the name of which escapes me at the moment.


#47 of 151 by polygon on Wed Jul 18 13:19:43 2001:

I'm not interested in proprietary or pay-per-use music files, but that's
probably OK with the recording industry, because I didn't use Napster and
I don't buy CDs in stores, either.


#48 of 151 by krj on Thu Jul 19 02:42:00 2001:

resp:37 and subsequent:  The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals overturned 
Judge Patel's order closing Napster until it could show that it was 
perfect at preventing the trading of copyrighted files.  (No surprise 
to this layman; Patel's order seemed to go right against the heart 
of the Court of Appeals' previous ruling.)  Napster expects to reopen
a form of its service shortly.  (You know, we've been discussing this
preliminary injunction for a year now...)   The story is covered 
in most online news sources so I won't punch in a URL.



#49 of 151 by krj on Thu Jul 19 05:05:43 2001:

Historical essay on copyright as seen by the Founding Fathers: by 
Siva Vaidhyanathan, author of a book "Copyrights and Copywrongs:
The Rise of Intellectual Property and How It Threatens Creativity."
Too long and detailed to summarize.
 
http://www.msnbc.com/news/594462.asp?0si=-


#50 of 151 by polygon on Thu Jul 19 05:14:11 2001:

(Subtitle: "Why Thomas Jefferson would love Napster.")


#51 of 151 by scott on Fri Jul 20 02:18:22 2001:

A typically insightful article about the ongoing collapse of the music
industry:
http://www.salon.com/ent/music/feature/2001/07/19/industry_downturn/index.h
tml
"Napster's out the picture, but for the first time in a decade, album sales
are down -- and ticket sales are sagging too".

I hope this means the DIY/punk revolution I've been predicting will finally
happen.


#52 of 151 by krj on Fri Jul 20 03:51:24 2001:

Heh, beat me to it.  The Salon article is a fairly bleak catalog of 
failure.  It points out that Napster and file trading can't account
for the crash in concert ticket sales; it appears that consumers, 
in general, are tuning out music as a way to spend entertainment
money.
 
Salon also has a summary article on the current situation with 
file trading systems, which doesn't have much we haven't already 
covered here: it describes what's happening now as "the Napster diaspora."


#53 of 151 by mdw on Fri Jul 20 06:14:57 2001:

Could it be the recording industry has finally pissed off Too Many
People?


#54 of 151 by danr on Fri Jul 20 12:32:29 2001:

Sounds to me like people are waking up to the fact that they're getting 
gouged. Should we really care that Britney Spears, Eminem and 'N Sync 
are selling fewer records this year?


#55 of 151 by orinoco on Fri Jul 20 13:43:50 2001:

Well, that suggests an interesting question.  Does anyone know if there are
figures on the "average artist's" sales trends?  Is Joe Guitarist getting hurt
by this, or just Dave Matthews and Lars Ulrich?  

(Or whoever that guy from Metallica is.  Just pretend I got the name right,
'k?)


#56 of 151 by scott on Fri Jul 20 14:58:39 2001:

(serious drift)  Did anybody see the new Pepsi commercial with Britney Spears?
Did she get that outfit from Cher's garage sale or *what*???  No wonder her
popularity is collapsing.


#57 of 151 by aaron on Fri Jul 20 16:13:56 2001:

Britney Spears is a typical bubblegum pop artist. After a while, even 
her most ardent fans will find that she has lost her flavor, and spit 
her out.


#58 of 151 by gull on Fri Jul 20 16:32:45 2001:

Re #55: The "average artist" doesn't get a record contract, so his/her sales
are essentially zero. ;>


#59 of 151 by orinoco on Fri Jul 20 22:43:14 2001:

Touche.  Should have phrased that better.  How about "are obscure bands with
contracts hurting as much as the top names?"


#60 of 151 by senna on Sat Jul 21 03:39:23 2001:

There just isn't much to be excited about in music right now.  NSync and
Spears are probably two of the only major names around right now--nobody else
with huge name appeal is doing anything.  Metallica hasn't released original
music since Reload, and with Hetfield entering rehab, they probably won't be
for a while.  It's a typical example of a band that is theoretically a big
seller that isn't doing anything.  

Music has no major trend that's moving albums right now.  Boy bands are on
the way down, grunge is gone (there are survivors of these trends, but no
trends themselves to pad sales), and nothing has moved in.  The music industry
is partly to blame for this, for pushing trends so heavily-with such limited
portfolios, they would go broke in two weeks on wall street.  To follow
cliche, they should have diversified long ago.  They still should work on
that.  Produce music that a lot of people will find interesting a buy
consistently, if not outrageously.  In a better market, people like ken whose
interests are not at the top of the charts would have a niche that actually
got attention.  People without ken's verve for music don't get served at all,
and they stop buying anything.  


#61 of 151 by krj on Sat Jul 21 03:55:49 2001:

The New York Times runs its own version of Salon's "Napster Diaspora"
story:
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/20/technology/20MUSI.html
 
Quote:  "Six of the alternative ((file trading)) services had 320,000
 to 1.1 million users each in May... Five of those services had little 
 traffic or did not even exist in February."  
  
And, file trading programs are the most commonly downloaded items 
at download.com.

So, now instead of fighting one file trading monster, Napster, the 
RIAA is now looking at fighting six of them.

This story ran on page 1 of the dead tree edition.


#62 of 151 by krj on Mon Jul 23 21:44:54 2001:

Same old same old...  from Wired:
http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,45234,00.html

Title:  "What if Napster *was* the answer?"
 
At a music and technology conference, anonymous major-label execs 
say privately that the labels should have managed to come up with 
a solution to work with Napster, because the post-Napster world is 
looking even tougher for them.
 
Analysts say that the major label download plans still look like losers,
and the majors have maybe 6-9 months to come up with something 
consumers will accept before the Napster successors are as big and
entrenched as Napster was at its peak.


#63 of 151 by krj on Tue Jul 24 03:52:22 2001:

A crowing piece on www.mp3newswire.net:
    http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/2001/topclones.html
"Napster clones crush Napster, take 6 of the top 10 downloads on Cnet"
 
Napster won't talk about how many users have downloaded their new, 
restricted, beta software directly from them.  From Cnet, Napster
downloads are roughly 1% of the Morpheus downloads.
 
"RIAA president Hillary Rosen cheered triumphantly - almost tauntingly
 - a week ago when Judge Patel ordered that Napster will remain
 shutdown until it could reach 100% perfection in its filtering
 endeavors. It seemed almost that Rosen was oblivious to what
 Napster's shutdown was unleashing and that the reversal of Judge
 Patel's order last Wednesday was the least of her problems."


#64 of 151 by krj on Tue Jul 24 04:30:16 2001:

Napster's CEO Hank Barry, who was installed by the venture 
capitalists who funded Napster in its early stages, is stepping down.
   http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6651876.html?tag=mn_hd


#65 of 151 by dbratman on Tue Jul 24 05:47:55 2001:

Oh, the copyright/restricted usage situation is getting real bad.  At a 
recent librarians' conference, I was treated to the story of the Rocket 
e-book.  Originally, the physical readers were being sold as a loss 
leader: money would be made on selling content.  But the companies 
discovered that many reader-buyers were never buying content: they were 
using the readers to read free content from the web (Project Gutenberg 
texts, etc).

So the new models have been made with software that will only accept 
Rocket proprietary texts as readable.  And if you munge the reader 
software so that it will accept free texts, then whenever you hook up 
the reader to the web to search for or buy new product, the website 
will detect this and re-set the reader software.

Copyright owners have a legitimate interest in preventing illegitimate 
distribution.  But they've gone way beyond this, and challenged the 
hitherto unquestioned right of the purchaser to do whatever s/he wants 
with the purchased copy itself.  With much downloadable material, you 
can only use it on the computer you download it to.  You can't even 
transfer it to another computer you own, even if you erase it from the 
first computer at that time, which would be a fair restriction.

I think danr has the answer to falling sales: people are tired of 
getting gouged.  Every major arena concert in my area is followed by a 
sheaf of letters to the newspaper's arts section, complaining about too 
high prices for too little concert.


#66 of 151 by krj on Tue Jul 24 17:07:53 2001:

resp:64 ::  The new CEO of Napster is Konrad Hilbers, a veteran 
executive with Bertelsmann.   So Bertelsmann is tightening control
to try to salvage something from their investment in Napster, is 
my guess.  It's obvious by now that Napster isn't going to make 
the promised July date for the relaunch of their for-pay 
service.


#67 of 151 by krj on Tue Jul 24 17:23:50 2001:

From the hometown of the American record industry:
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-000060022jul23.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines
%2Dbusiness
   (sorry the URL is excessively long there)
The piece is fairly bleak about the early prospects for the major 
label download systems winning many customers.
 
Quotes:
>"All they're doing is having an electronic version of Tower Records," said
>Roger Noll, a Stanford University professor of economics. "I suspect that
>they're structured this way because they're so dominated by the record
>companies . . . [which are] very much afraid of a world where the unit of
>production is not the CD."
...
>The companies have revealed few details about their services, 
>but this much is clear: They won't be free, they won't offer a 
>comprehensive catalog of music,
>and they won't let subscribers transfer songs from their computers
>to their cars or living-room CD players.
...
>Dennis Mudd of Music Match said: "If you're going to have a
>service that's just like Napster except that it's got less content, 
>it's more expensive [and more restrictive] . . . you're going to lose."


#68 of 151 by mcnally on Tue Jul 24 21:36:39 2001:

  Last night, driving across northern California (somewhere in Mendocino
  or Sonoma County) I was listening to a local radio station's folk and
  bluegrass program when they cut in between songs with a recorded message
  describing how the station had ceased streaming its programming over the
  web because of legal fears related to the DMCA and recent court decisions.


#69 of 151 by dbratman on Wed Jul 25 18:22:49 2001:

That's a bad sign.  Up until now, restrictions on streaming webcasts 
used to be that they would remain streaming only (no downloads), and 
for webcast-only material that they wouldn't tell you in advance what 
you were going to hear next.

If radio broadcasting were invented today, the record firms would never 
allow it.  Going out ... over the airwaves?  And anybody with a cheap 
radio can, like, just listen to it without paying anything else?  
Unheard of?  Licensing, you say?  No licensing!  Just ... stop it!  Run 
for the hills!  Buy off Congress!


#70 of 151 by krj on Wed Jul 25 18:53:11 2001:

Issues like these were actually fought over at the time radio and 
the recording industry were young, and eventually Congress imposed
the structure we have today for royalties and compulsory licenses.
 
I have come to the conclusion that nothing successful will happen in the 
"legitimate" section of the online music field until Congress 
imposes a similar set of rules regarding royalties and compulsory 
licenses.  This is a good example of where the marketplace is NOT
working things out.  There are too many players, and they are all 
too greedy and determined to maintain control, for negotiations to 
reach a successful conclusion.  Songwriter representatives have
been indicating that they think the songwriters should get about
half the money from the online music business, compared to roughly
the dollar per CD they get today.
 
Wired news, today:  Universal has announced that it will launch
the Universal/Sony "PressPlay" system in the first half of September
-- whether or not agreements have been reached with the songwriters
whose works will be sold.    Universal is already being sued 
for having launched its farmclub.com download system without 
getting clearance on songwriting copyrights.
 
(Actually I kind of hope they do this.  With the Napster and "Tasini"
precendents, I think they'll be crushed for multi-million or billion
dollar damages, and unlike Napster, this time there will be a defendant
with deep pockets.  I call it poetic justice.)

Anybody want to debate "Tasini v. NY Times?"


#71 of 151 by aaron on Wed Jul 25 20:42:25 2001:

Given the recent decision that, unless they expressly signed over 
electronic rights to their work, freelance writers retain copyright on 
their work, the same would probably hold true for musical performances. 
Although my guess is that music companies, like print publishers, have 
been obtaining those rights as a matter of routine in recent years. That
 decision may slow Sony down a bit if it planned to offer music for
which  it does not have electronic rights.


#72 of 151 by gull on Thu Jul 26 15:43:51 2001:

Aren't musical performances in a different category now, the same one as
movies?  Something about "works for hire"?


#73 of 151 by krj on Thu Jul 26 21:46:00 2001:

Cnet:  "File Trading Pressure Mounts on ISPs"
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1004-200-6674297.html?tag=mn_hd
 
Sort of a repeat article, but maybe things are heating up again.
The copyright industry is trying to get ISPs to terminate customers who
run Gnutella or Napster-clones.  The Digital Millenium Copyright Act 
never envisioned a scenario where copyright infringements emanated from 
a user's home PC: the "notice and take down" scenario was designed for 
material on the ISP's machines -- web pages, for example -- and it 
is sharply limited to the 
copyright-contested material.   Nothing in the DMCA speaks to the issue
of copyrighted material not under direct control of the ISP, and nothing
in it talks about cutting off users from the net.
Some ISPs are bending to the will of the copyright industry and some aren't.
 
There's clear potential for abuse, and no semblance of due process, 
in what the copyright industry wants here.  The Church of Scientology,
just to pick a handy example, would love to be able to terminate the 
Internet access of its online critics.  The ISPs also realize
that file trading has driven all the money they have made selling 
high-speed connections, and they are wary of alienating their paying
customers.


#74 of 151 by micklpkl on Mon Jul 30 13:41:48 2001:

resp:36 -- An article in Stereophile magazine concerning Macrovision's
method of making audio CD's un-rippable.

http://www.stereophile.com/shownews.cgi?1094

"TTR's patents reveal that in the SafeAudio system, "grossly erroneous
values," or bursts of digital noise, are added to the signal, forcing a
regular CD player, whose error correction can't usually handle such extreme
digital hash, to cover the gaps of bad data with data from before and after
where the distortion occurs. But when copying the audio file to another
device, like a PC's hard disc, the extreme digital values are said to
overwhelm the computer's ability to transfer the data properly, leaving
annoying noises in place of music."

(this "technology" was developed jointly by Macrovision & TTR Technologies,
and has been used *secretly* by several record labels on new releases, since
March of this year)



#75 of 151 by polygon on Mon Jul 30 13:49:07 2001:

Re 74.  It doesn't seem to me that this will prevent ripping for long.
Or would a program to screen out digital noise be illegal under the DMCA?


#76 of 151 by orinoco on Mon Jul 30 14:50:51 2001:

Programs already exist to remove the skips from a CD while ripping it.  I
would not be surprised if CDParanoia, say, would also do a pretty good job
of overcoming the intentional noise on these disks.  


#77 of 151 by krj on Mon Jul 30 15:41:44 2001:

My question about Mike's resp:74 ::  if the Macrovision technology (a) 
(a) has been used secretly on several releases, and (b) actually blocks
copying as a data file, then don't you think we would have heard reports
from people saying, "Hey, I can't rip this CD, what's up?"
 
Thanks for the pointer.


#78 of 151 by krj on Tue Jul 31 22:12:47 2001:

resp:51 and subsequently, on the sharp downturn in CD sales:
 
"As Audiences Discover Frugality, Pop Culture Starts Feeling A Chill"
 
Not actually about CD sales at all, but the article does discuss 
the flattening or downturn in pop/rock concert ticket sales, along with 
problems in Broadway, movies and book publishing.  Free/inexpensive
entertainment such as TV is either measured, or anecdotally reported,
to be increasing its audience.  The top tier of entertainment 
still sells well -- Madonna's tour, the movie "Shrek," the musical
"The Producers," but below that level, business has fallen off
in all sectors.
 
Some pundits argue that prices are too high and people are watching
their wallets carefully as they worry about their jobs.

Others argue that a sort of cultural ennui has set in; people are
tired of megahyped blockbuster after megahyped blockbuster, in
all genres and styles.

Regarding concerts:
  "In the first six months of this year, according to figures 
   published in the trade journal Pollstar,  the top 50
   concert tours took in 12.6% less money than last year's
   top 50.  The number of tickets sold was off by 15.5%...
 
  "'A two-million-ticket drop is not insubstantial,' Pollstar's
   editor Gary Bongiovanni said.  'The conventional wisdom is 
   that the entertainment business is recession-proof, and with
   inexpensive forms of entertainment that's still true.  But 
   since the last recession in 1991, the cost of our product has
   more than doubled.  What used to be an inconsiderable expense
   is becoming a luxury item.'

  "Music promoters in many parts of the country are seeing 
   considerable drops in business."

----------

The relevance to the Napster arguments: it does start to look like 
file trading is irrelevant to the falloff in CD sales.  Something
bigger is happening in the culture at large.


#79 of 151 by krj on Wed Aug 1 04:29:04 2001:

BMG is going to test a anti-ripping scheme from SunnComm.  In the 
initial test they will just process promotional CDs.

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6719912.html
 
A Cnet columnist compares the file sharing systems still operating:
 
http://music.cnet.com/music/0-1652424-8-6699285-1.html?tag=sd
 
Legal fantasy?  mp3newswire.net points to a findlaw.com essay
suggesting that the Supreme Court's ruling in Tasini v. NYTimes
creates a precedent which may save the original filesharing 
Napster system...
 
http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/2001/tasini.html


#80 of 151 by gull on Wed Aug 1 12:52:44 2001:

The Register reports that a way has been found (already?) to bypass the
Macrovision SafeAudio technology:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/20766.html

The article's a bit short on details.


#81 of 151 by krj on Wed Aug 1 14:36:36 2001:

Wired reports that Sen. Fritz Hollings (D-South Carolina), chairman
of the Senate Commerce committee currently working on an Internet 
privacy bill, is talking about using that bill to begin the 
process of establishing a Federal security standard for entertainment
files.  Once the standard is developed, all new "electronics 
devices" would be required to conform to those standards and 
reject unauthorized files (like your MP3 file collection, most
likely).

This is the holy grail for the  copyright industry; Disney is 
wildly in favor of it.
 
The good news is the example of the SDMI consortium, which is now 
two years beyond its original deadline for a security standard for 
music files and which doesn't seem to be making any headway.
There's no reason to believe a Federal process would be any more 
successful in mediating the conflict between the copyright industry
and the electronics industry: the electronics companies believe
that what the copyright industry demands, consumers will not buy.

http://wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,45701,00.html


#82 of 151 by krj on Fri Aug 3 00:08:43 2001:

Another CD copy-prevention system, called Cactus.  Sony is testing
it in Eastern Europe.  They claim to be able to make copied CDs
generate square waves to damage electronics and speakers, 
though the test CDs sold in Europe were not manufactured to do that.
(Sounds like a declaration of war to me.)  Haven't had time to 
read this closely yet:

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991105

Aren't all of these schemes defeated by a pass through the analog 
domain?


#83 of 151 by orinoco on Fri Aug 3 06:00:53 2001:

(In Douglas Hofsteader's book _Goedel, Escher, Bach,_ he comes up with an
analogy for proof by counterexample using record players.  The Tortoise keeps
buying new record players.  The Crab can always come up with a record that
will blow the latest player to bits.  In that sense, he's got
the advantage.

Sometimes, the Crab thinks he's noticed a pattern in the Tortoise's
players.  He takes advantage of that pattern to make a record that will
destroy -- he hopes -- any player at all.  But the Tortoise can always
gain the upper hand by making a new player that doesn't follow the old
pattern.  In that sense, the Tortoise has the advantage.

Douglas Hofsteader is a strange, strange man.)



#84 of 151 by danr on Fri Aug 3 15:52:39 2001:

re #82:

When I try to pull up that article, I get:

Sorry, This article is unavailable at the current time - every effort 
is being made to get it back up and running as quickly as possible.

It's a conspiracy!  Seriously, though, off the top of my head, I don't 
see how they could put anything on a CD that would damage speakers.


#85 of 151 by gull on Fri Aug 3 18:32:57 2001:

Speakers don't tolerate square waves at high volumes well.  Back before CD
players were savvy enough to refuse to play data CDs, it was pretty well
known that the digital 'hash' generated by trying to play one could blow
speakers.


#86 of 151 by krj on Fri Aug 3 20:53:45 2001:

From the Chicago Sun-Times:
 
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-mp02.html

Northwestern University fires a secretary for having 2000 MP3 
files on her computer.   She wasn't running Napster; the University
long ago blocked it.


#87 of 151 by krj on Fri Aug 3 21:32:44 2001:

Another review of Jessica Litman's discouraging book "Digital Copyright:"
   http://writ.news.findlaw.com/books/reviews/20010720_hodes.html
The reviewer writes that Litman's optimistic conclusion that the DMCA
would end up being ignored has been overturned by the destruction of 
Napster, which had not yet happened when the book was written.
Other than that, the reviewer agress with Litman:  copyright law no 
longer represents the will of the people expressed through their 
legislators, but instead it is dictated by the large corporations and 
becomes a club to beat the public with.

-----

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010802/re/music_internet_dc_1.html

A Reuters story on proposed legislation being developed in the US House 
by Rep. Rick Boucher (D-Va) and Rep. Christopher Cannon (R-Utah).
They propose to loosen copyright laws to help online music businesses
get up and running without being destroyed by lawsuits.

The key seems to be a plan to extend radio-style compulsory mechanical
licensing to online music services.  "This would mean there would be 
one royalty pool, elminating the need for a Web-based service to 
negotiate with individual artists, labels, music publishers and 
songwriters."  ((I *told* y'all this was coming.))

-----

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/20010727/tc/net_music_faces_patent_squeeze_
1.html

(careful with the wrapped URL)

The Intouch Group has been given a patent which they claim covers most
or all downloaded music.  Lawsuits are flying.  The courts have not 
yet had the sense to laugh this patent out of existence.


#88 of 151 by danr on Sat Aug 4 02:19:36 2001:

re #85: That may be true, but I'd guess that while square waves may 
have been written to the CD, by the time the signal actually got to the 
speaker, they'd be fairly well rounded off, especially in low-end 
equipment. 

Let's get one of these CDs, hook the audio output to a dummy load, and 
scope it out.


#89 of 151 by scott on Sat Aug 4 02:57:12 2001:

A square wave is easily maintained through even a cheap receiver and amp. 
It's the speakers which have trouble moving instantaneously from + to -.


#90 of 151 by krj on Sat Aug 4 03:37:16 2001:

There have been "conventional" recordings which were infamous for 
containing square waves and having equipment-damaging potential.
Usually these would be recordings of the 1812 Overture with the 
cannons driven into clipping in the recording.
 
However, the trick in the Cactus system is the claim that the 
CD data is manipulated so that the original disc plays musically
and safely, while a copy produces noise, and could be manipulated 
to produce a square wave.


#91 of 151 by mdw on Sat Aug 4 05:43:55 2001:

That really doesn't make sense - it's all digital stuff - just 576 byte
blocks of data -- either you copy it, or you don't -- a CD-R is going to
see just the same bits on the disk that a CD player will, baring weird
chemistry or physics trying to play "tricks" with different kinds of
lasers.


#92 of 151 by mcnally on Sat Aug 4 13:03:41 2001:

  Marcus raises the obvious objection.  Either there's something more
  to this scheme than explained in the press reports or Cactus is some
  kind of pseudo-technological scam intended to soak panic-stricken
  recording execs..


#93 of 151 by scott on Sat Aug 4 13:11:43 2001:

The theory is that an audio CD player will realize that the data makes no
sense, and fix the obvious errors.  Normally such errors would be the result
of corrupted data; ie a scratch or other physical damage.  A CD data read
would read the data as-is, then lay it down on a new CD as good data.  But
yeah, why wouldn't the audio read of the copy fix the same problem?  Maybe
there's a checksum involved which aids the fixing of the bad data on the
original?


#94 of 151 by mdw on Sun Aug 5 01:35:23 2001:

Yes, but whatever's happening is *probably* something that CD-RW
software can do just as well.  I'm not sure there's any checksum (or
that there isn't)--I do know though that when used to store data
(CD-Rom) only 512 bytes of data are stored in the 576 bytes -- the
remaining 64 bytes of data are used to store (I think) ECC data to
repair any minor read errors -- this isn't done for audio because a
1-bit error in audio data is typically not audible.  That suggests to me
that there isn't any checksum on the audio data.


#95 of 151 by gull on Mon Aug 6 14:35:38 2001:

It probably has something to do with the underlying subcode tracks on the CD
that audio players use but CD-ROM drives can't copy, but that's just a
guess.  I remember that this was why Playstation CDs couldn't be copied and
the copies run in an unmodified Playstation -- the boot code for the
Playstation was hidden in those subcodes.  Supposedly you can fit about 2
megabytes in there, spread across the entire disc.


#96 of 151 by krj on Mon Aug 6 19:28:13 2001:

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6788999.html

"Department of Justice to probe online music ventures"

Quotes:
 
> The Justice Department opened an antitrust 
> investigation of the online
> music business, focusing on two new joint ventures 
> backed by five major record
> labels, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.
...
> The government is also expected to examine the 
> major record companies' use of copyright
> rules and licensing practices to control online 
> distribution of their music, according to these
> people, the report said. 
...
> According to the report, a lawyer familiar with 
> the Justice Department investigation said that it
> isn't unusual for joint ventures among competitors 
> to attract antitrust scrutiny and that many
> such ventures have been permitted to continue operating. 


#97 of 151 by mdw on Tue Aug 7 07:02:17 2001:

At least some CD-RW players are (as best I can tell) capable of copying
all the subcode data as well.  Any CD-RW player has to be capable of
copying the P and Q subcodes - I believe it's integral to how it knows
the difference between data & audio, and other important stuff.  Some
common tricks used for copyprotection include a bad table of contents
block (apparently audio players don't need to use it...?), and
scattering bad sectors or data on the disk.  The bad sectors can cause
data under-runs if you're copying from CD to CD, but I don't see how
those can break things if you use the HD as a buffer.  I don't entirely
understand how a bad table of contents can break things, but that's the
claim.  It sounds to me like something that could at least in theory be
programmed around, if you were "clever".


#98 of 151 by krj on Thu Aug 9 16:24:02 2001:

Today's web news stories:
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6820135.html
"Napster blasts court's technical meddling"
Napster complains that the court-appointed technical master, who was 
supposed to settle technical issues of fact, has been given unprecedented
and unjustifiable authority to run the engineering side of the Napster
company.
 
-----

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6817555.html
The record companies ask the judge to skip the Napster trial and deliver
a summary judgement against Napster.
 
-----

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6816989.html
Napster's new CEO outlines the hypothetical Napster subscription arrangement.
((Your weblog writer thinks that this has become completely irrelevant.
  Napster Inc. has two possible outcomes: either it will be vaporized by the 
  court judgement, or else it will die from lack of users.))

-----

http://musicdish.com/mag/?id=4333
"Putting the Pieces Together: An End To End Solution for Protecting Music"
A music business fantasy about how our ability to copy CDs and music 
files will be restricted, and how we'll all put up with it just fine.
Notice the handwaving where the writer assumes that no one will want to 
put up with second-generation music files which have been passed through 
the analog domain to strip out all copy restrictions...



#99 of 151 by scott on Thu Aug 9 17:50:59 2001:

The MusicDish article is amusing.  Serious math/logic errors in the first
paragraph.  I really doubt that 30 million people are getting their music via
online sharing, especially not for one specific album.


#100 of 151 by micklpkl on Fri Aug 10 14:17:18 2001:

Speaking of fantasies, here's a link to an article that reports on the
recording industry's hopes to phase out CDs:
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5095272,00.html?chkpt=zdnnp1t
p02

Basically, a company called Intertrust will provide the Digital Rights
Management (DRM) format for DataPlay-enabled devices. The DataPlay discs have
yet to hit the market, but are purported to be small and portable, about the
size of a quarter. 


#101 of 151 by mcnally on Fri Aug 10 14:58:55 2001:

  I'm not sure I want my music to be recorded on media "the size of a quarter"
  if the record companies are going to pesist in charging nearly twenty
  dollars for new recordings.


#102 of 151 by anderyn on Fri Aug 10 16:01:11 2001:

Gee. You know, that DataPlay device sounds an awful lot like a minidisc
player. Hmmmmm. (Twila goes back to contemplating her minidiscs.)


#103 of 151 by gull on Fri Aug 10 16:29:13 2001:

Considering that these players cost four times what a low-end CD player does
now, and that the discs aren't likely to sound any better than CDs (maybe
even worse, since they're compressed), this is going to be a hard sell.


#104 of 151 by hematite on Fri Aug 10 16:41:18 2001:

I'd be afraid I would lose them too easily being the size of a quarter. 
It would be handier to carry around and seemingly light.. Feh I have 
enough trouble keeping track of my minidiscs. :)


#105 of 151 by lowclass on Fri Aug 10 21:37:40 2001:

        The size of a quarter? How about the durability of a quarter? you stick
CD recording technology in you're pocket, and you destroy it.


#106 of 151 by krj on Fri Aug 10 21:59:54 2001:

http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/2001/6cd.html
 
"6 CDs a Year, or, Consumers and record labels are at war."
 
Nothing too original here, but it's a nice essay.  It does point out 
that in the conventional economics models, the progress of technology
is supposed to lower prices so that consumers can get more bang 
for their bucks, but the record industry is using its oligopoly power
as best they can to prevent this from happening.


#107 of 151 by anderyn on Sat Aug 11 16:36:35 2001:

I was thinking about this yesterday after I talked to Drew at work -- he went
to Borders to buy the "O Brother Where art Thou?" and "Songcatcher"
soundtracks. And he said that the clerks were so unhelpful and so unclued that
he gave up and went to Best Buy. (Which is a comment on the staffing at teh
downtown Borders going downhill... in and of itself). But then I was thinking
that a major reason for people not buying records is the problem of where to
get them -- I know that a lot of people do buy on line, but most of the people
I know don't as a rule. Music for a lot of people is something they still want
to look at, ponder, all that -- and without some record stores that cater to
that need, a lot of people will stop buying. And of course the cost factor
doesn't help. Just some random musings.


#108 of 151 by orinoco on Mon Aug 13 17:00:08 2001:

That was certainly true when I was in Chicago.  There were two decent record
stores in Hyde Park, but neither of them were very well staffed, and I
wasn't familiar enough with them to just blunder around the place on my own,
the way I do in Encore or Wazoo.  I ended up buying two CDs the whole time
I was in Chicago, both of which I was ordered by friends to go out and buy
This Instant. 


#109 of 151 by krj on Tue Aug 14 22:58:25 2001:

http://www.thestandard.com/article/0,1902,28532,00.html
 
An anonymous source says that the Department of Justice antitrust probe
of the major labels and their online music ventures, which was revealed
this week, has been ongoing for months.
 
  'The source said that the probe was
   initiated out of the DOJ's antitrust
   division in response to "disillusionment
   with the business practices of the record
   companies" from "multiple parties at every level of the music
   value chain," including recording artists, record stores, and
   online music services.'

My my my.  


#110 of 151 by krj on Thu Aug 16 19:16:44 2001:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/review/2001-08-15-korea-napster.htm

Two South Korean brothers, both educated at American universities, are 
facing criminal prosecution for copyright violations.  They wrote a 
Korean-language Gnutella-style file sharing program called 
"Soribada," which translates as "Sea of Sound;" they felt Korea
deserved its own file-sharing system.   Potential penalties include
up to five years in prison and fines of $38,500.
 
Soribada does not user a Napster-style central service; it is clear
they are being prosecuted as the authors of the program, not for 
operating it.


#111 of 151 by tpryan on Sun Aug 19 16:05:58 2001:

        I'm not into the tech, but with the lasers to read disks now
at a higher frequency, they can find the 1's and 0's closer together;
putting the same digital information is a smaller space.
        Also, wasn't the standard for the CD set up to be 4 discreet
audio channells, room for text and/or graphics, etc?  A new standard
could ignore those things the public rarely sees.
        Then again, DAT (digital audio tape) was tried as a new
pre-recorded format.  It failed.  The Mini-Disc (MD) was tried as
a pre-recorded format.  It, too failed to find a consumer market.


#112 of 151 by krj on Sun Aug 19 16:29:12 2001:

Only peripherally related to main topics here:
 
http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,539104,00.html

"How Radiohead took America by stealth," by the UK paper The Guardian.
 
Radiohead's recent success, according to this article, relied 
on internet fan communication.  The record company mostly stayed out 
of the way.

> Most controversially, Radiohead and
> Capitol encouraged fans to copy and
> circulate free bootlegs of Kid A (((the next-to-last CD))) in its
> entirety across their own sites three
> weeks in advance of the album's official
> release, upon which it went straight to
> number one with no radio airplay, no video
> and no hit single. 

The article does raise the question: so what does Radiohead need 
Capitol Records for?  Why doesn't the band take over its own 
relationships with the fans?


#113 of 151 by krj on Mon Aug 20 16:35:03 2001:

The New York Times has a collection of pieces today.  Besides the music
stories referenced below there are a few more on the impact of digital
technology on other arts.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/20/technology/20ROSE.html
   is a puff piece on Hilary Rosen, the head of the Recording Industry
   Association of America.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/20/arts/20ARTS.html
   "Why Just Listen to Pop When You Can Mix Your Own?"
   Discusses the rise of web sites where fans share their amateur
   remixes of work by their favorite artists, with a focus on Bjork.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/20/arts/music/20CEED.html
   Popular music critic Neil Strauss writes about two weeks spent 
   listening only to music found on the net: one week before the 
   crushing of Napster file sharing, and one week recently.
   This article will mostly be of interest to geezers and trailing-edge
   folks like me.
 
   Quote:
> As a critic whose job is based on listening to
> new music, I have never been exposed to more high-quality artists in a
> shorter amount of time. Any musicians complaining about song-sharing
> services like Napster, any record executives trying to work out an Internet
> business model, and any fans who wants a glimpse of the way music
> consumption and distribution will change in the future should put aside 
> their stereos and try this experiment ((( internet-only listening))) 
> first. 

   and:

> In general, it seemed to be a rule that the
> more passwords you needed, the more
> personal information you had to submit, the
> more corporate logos you saw and the more
> special software you needed to download,
> the worse the site was. 

   ... and www.live365.com was singled out for special scorn.

In the post-Napster world of Summer 2001, Strauss seems to have found 
happiness with a mix of Aimster, IRC chat channels, and KaZaa.


#114 of 151 by gull on Mon Aug 20 17:31:38 2001:

Re #111: A CD has room for 74 minutes of uncompressed stereo audio.  If you
use any of the other features, the amount of audio you can put on is reduced
accordingly.  So you're not really savig anything by eliminating those
features from the spec.  74 minutes actually turns out to be a bit short for
some classical music.

Minidiscs hold considerably less data than CDs, but they get around that by
using a lossy psychoacoustic compression algorithm to compress the data on
the disc.  It works similarly to MP3 but it's a proprietary compression.  In
theory the loss of data in the compression is unnoticable to the human ear.


#115 of 151 by dbratman on Tue Aug 21 20:43:09 2001:

But you don't want to reduce the data quality level on classical 
music.  Please!


#116 of 151 by krj on Wed Aug 22 17:07:36 2001:

Genuine Napster news!  :)
 
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6946163.html?tag=lh
 
In a conference at Aspen, new Napster CEO Konrad Hilbers promised 
that the new subscription based Napster service would open by the 
end of the 2001.
 
Quote:
 
   ((Hilbers)) said Napster could still be a place where 
    people swap music free of charge, so long as it
    isn't copyrighted. 

    "I'm very much a believer in what
    Napster stands for, which is the
    sharing of music among friends
    and private consumers when it
    comes to making available things
    like my children's Christmas carol
    singing or a garage band," Hilbers
    said. 

In which Hilbers demonstrates an awesome ignorance of intellectual
property law (everything is copyrighted now) and the market demand
for children singing carols.  I'm sure BMG invested $50 million 
in Napster because of the huge audience demand for other people's
children singing Chrismas carols.

-------

Songwriters represented by a copyright enforcement organization called
Copyright.net have launced a new lawsuit against Mp3.com.  They argue
that Mp3.com was the original source for many Mp3 files traded on Napster, 
and thus Mp3.com should be assessed damages for downloads from Napster
and related services.  
 
http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/news/depth/mp3082101.htm

quote:

>The argument goes like this: MP3.com made compressed copies of about
>900,000 songs, which it placed on its computer servers -- without obtaining
>the rights to do so. That created a vast bootleg library, from which MP3.com
>subscribers could download songs. Once on the user's computer hard-drive,
>a single song could be copied and passed around infinitely in the music
>underground.

This seems totally bogus to me: I never heard of anyone using Mp3.com 
as a ripping service to get tracks for further distribution, it seems 
like it would have been much harder than ripping the tracks yourself.
I think we are now suing for theoretical copyright infringement.
I suspect this suit has only happened because Mp3.com was bought by 
Universal Music Group, and the songwriters think they can now tap 
Universal's very deep pockets.


#117 of 151 by krj on Wed Aug 22 17:50:51 2001:

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/telco/story/0,2000020799,20256077,00.htm
 
Australian Excite@Home users are upset over the cable ISP's new policy
of randomly monitoring its users and immediately terminating the 
service of anyone they think is infringing copyrights.


#118 of 151 by brighn on Wed Aug 22 18:46:48 2001:

Actually, I thought that technically, things that had been released into the
public domain weren't copyrighted. Also, things on which the copyright has
expired (and there are a few recorded pieces old enough to qualify, now) are
not copyrighted.

this post is (c)2001, but is hereby released into the public domain ;}


#119 of 151 by krj on Wed Aug 22 18:53:36 2001:

OK.  For ten points: Describe a practical system for determining if 
an arbitrary sound file is under copyright protection, or has been 
released into the public domain.  Remember that when the system 
fails to properly detect copyright protection, the consumer faces 
various unpleasantness ranging from loss of Internet access up 
through criminal prosecution.  :)


#120 of 151 by polygon on Thu Aug 23 23:13:44 2001:

Re 118.  For a recording to be in the public domain through age alone,
it would have had to be "published" before 1922.

Anything which was never "published", regardless how old, is still
under copyright.


#121 of 151 by brighn on Fri Aug 24 03:17:34 2001:

There were recordings published before 1922, weren't there? When did Edison
invent the phonograph?


#122 of 151 by remmers on Fri Aug 24 06:04:40 2001:

You bet there were recordings before 1922.  Edison patented the
phonograph in 1878.


#123 of 151 by mcnally on Fri Aug 24 08:40:55 2001:

  re #116:  what a crock..  I'd say that the suit stood no chance
  whatsoever, but all kinds of previous decisions suggest that just
  maybe, if they find the right judge on the right day, this could
  succeed. 

  I actually never thought that MP3.com should've been slapped for its
  MyMp3.com service (or whatever they called the service that would
  stream you MP3s of CDs that you proved you "owned" (or to which you
  had at least had temporary physical access ..)) which I guess shows
  how much my legal opinion is worth..


#124 of 151 by polygon on Fri Aug 24 10:08:08 2001:

Re 121-122.  I'm aware that recordings existed before 1922, but I am less
certain about what technology existed to mass-produce and "publish" them. 
Wax cylinders?  And how many of those still exist in playable condition
today?  I don't think the 78 rpm record was invented until later, was it? 

I guess there were player piano rolls, but they were not "recordings" so
much as encoded sheet music.

This is further evidence, if any were needed, how howlingly unreasonable
it is that published items dating back to the early 1920s are still under
copyright -- let alone non-published items dating back to the beginning of
time.


#125 of 151 by brighn on Fri Aug 24 13:20:19 2001:

I thought "published" meant there were at least three copies, or something
like that. Didn't Edison also develop a method for copying his cylinders, one
at a time?

I'll agree that polygon's interpretation of copyright law creates a highly
impractical situation, but it also doesn't match my recollection of copyright
law. Maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention. =}


#126 of 151 by dbratman on Fri Aug 24 17:05:47 2001:

I have seen, and held in my hand, commercially published vinyl (or at 
least it looked and felt like vinyl) cylinders from circa 1905.  Flat 
disks had been patented by Emil Berliner in 1896, and in the form of 78 
rpms had taken over well before 1922.  Commercial phonographs were 
plenty common by that time.  What hadn't been developed yet (late 20s) 
was electrical recording, so the sound on those earlier records really 
sucks.


#127 of 151 by brighn on Fri Aug 24 17:10:49 2001:

when did the first talkies appear? that would also qualify as "published
sound."


#128 of 151 by remmers on Fri Aug 24 18:23:11 2001:

"The Jazz Singer", usually credited as the first "talking movie"
(although it was mostly a silent movie with a few sound scenes)
was released in 1927.  By 1929, Hollywood had totally converted
to sound.


#129 of 151 by brighn on Fri Aug 24 21:23:08 2001:

Well, ok, that's after 1922. 


#130 of 151 by tpryan on Fri Aug 24 22:18:30 2001:

        Cylinders where recorded in a "batch mode", with a sound 
horn picking up the sound and a distribution system (all acoustic)
tapping into multiple recorders.  A big batch would have been in
the dozens.  The next set of x many cylinders would get a new 
performance.  This method ended once a master disk could be cut,
and used to make mothers, that then in turn produced shellac
and vinyl.


#131 of 151 by krj on Wed Aug 29 03:53:16 2001:

http://www.newmediamusic.com/articles/NM01080292.html

Fairly neutral, mostly non-technical article summarizing the different
approaches to copy-proofing CDs.  IFPI (the International Federation
of Phonographic Industries) got a patent last week on another 
such system.  Quote:
 
> The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry
> (IFPI) patented a method to fool CD-Rom players when 
> consumers try to copy CDs or rip MP3s from CDs onto their computers. 
> It involves encrypting the time codes on CDs, which are 
> usually ignored by CD players but not by CD-Rom players, so as to
> make the CD perform just fine on your stereo system--so 
> hopes the IFPI--but be incompatible when you try to copy it onto
> your computer. 


#132 of 151 by krj on Fri Aug 31 17:25:23 2001:

Michael Robertson, the entertaining and outspoken CEO of MP3.com, has 
left the job as the acquisition of MP3.com by Vivendi Universal 
is completed.
 
http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/2001/robertson.html
 

The US Copyright Office has issued a report asking Congress to clarify
some of the legal issues surrounding the Internet music business.
MSNBC says the report generally tilts towards the Web music 
companies and away from the copyright industry.  In particular,
one area of focus is the copyright industry claim that it should 
get both performance royalties and recording royalties on the 
delivery of music over the net.  In today's market, the copyright holders
get either performance or recording royalties, but never both.
 
http://www.msnbc.com/news/621682.asp?cp1=1


#133 of 151 by krj on Fri Sep 7 07:14:09 2001:

http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,46596,00.html

The Webnoize traffic measuring people say that four of the new 
file trading systems -- FastTrack, Audiogalaxy, iMesh and Gnutella
-- are, in their aggregate, enabling users to trade about as many 
files -- 3 billion per month -- as Napster did as its peak.
 
File trading activity is expected to rocket upwards as college
students return to their campuses.
 
FastTrack usage has been growing by 60% every month, for the entire year.

-------

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/06/technology/circuits/06IMAG.html

A non-musical article, for a change.  The Times reports on a conflict 
between the owners of copyrighted images and a new era of search 
engines which collect and index images from the web.  Fairly interesting
article, a bit too dense for me to summarize it well.


#134 of 151 by polygon on Fri Sep 7 07:22:54 2001:

As to the NYT article -- it's odd that the sole focus is on images,
with no mention of search engines caching copyrighted text.


#135 of 151 by other on Fri Sep 7 18:30:51 2001:

Well, a picture *is* worth a thousand words...


#136 of 151 by krj on Sun Sep 9 06:40:39 2001:

The copyright industry is going for the whole enchilada:

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46655,00.html
 
Quoting:

> WASHINGTON -- Music and record industry lobbyists are 
> quietly readying an all-out assault
> on Congress this fall in hopes of dramatically rewriting copyright laws. 

> With the help of Fritz Hollings (D-S.C.), the powerful chairman 
> of the Senate Commerce
> committee, they hope to embed copy-protection controls in 
> nearly all consumer electronic
> devices and PCs. All types of digital content, including music, 
> video and e-books, are
> covered. 

> The Security Systems Standards and
> Certification Act (SSSCA), scheduled to
> be introduced by Hollings, backs up this
> requirement with teeth: It would be a
> civil offense to create or sell any kind of
> computer equipment that "does not
> include and utilize certified security
> technologies" approved by the federal government. 

> It also creates new federal felonies, punishable by five years 
> in prison and fines of up to
> $500,000. Anyone who distributes copyrighted material with 
> "security measures" disabled or
> has a network-attached computer that disables copy protection is covered. 


#137 of 151 by polygon on Sun Sep 9 08:45:05 2001:

This is a very big story, and rather than post all the details here,
I'll start a new item.


#138 of 151 by polygon on Sun Sep 9 08:55:46 2001:

The new item is #192.


#139 of 151 by gelinas on Mon Sep 10 00:42:27 2001:

NB: That is Item 192 in Agora, Summer 2001.


#140 of 151 by polygon on Mon Sep 10 01:42:31 2001:

Good point.


#141 of 151 by polygon on Mon Sep 10 01:43:08 2001:

Oh, and also, there is Item 194, same Agora, with objections to and
discussion of Item 192.


#142 of 151 by krj on Mon Sep 10 02:49:44 2001:

Well, if we are going to argue about the argument there, maybe the 
actual discussion will stay here.  :)
 
Repeating myself from M-net:
Congress already endorsed the proposal that consumers should not have
access to unrestricted digital copying when they passed the Audio
Home Recording Act, which mandated the Serial Copy Management System
in consumer digitial music recorders.   I bet the argument will be that 
Congress will just be closing the loophole the AHRA left for general-
purpose computers; when the AHRA was passed, I don't think the lawmakers
or the lobbyists forsaw the consumer Internet, or CD burners.


#143 of 151 by mary on Mon Sep 10 03:22:01 2001:

If people think $16 is too much to pay for a legal copy of their
latest pop CD then why don't they not buy the thing?  Simply
making illegal copies doesn't seem like the best response.



#144 of 151 by other on Mon Sep 10 03:38:27 2001:

Conditioned response.


#145 of 151 by bru on Mon Sep 10 11:25:28 2001:

But what else will it make illegal?  And what future developments in the
industry will it stifle?  And what is the point of it except to guarantee
certain persons (not necissarily the artist) the right to make money?  What
damage will it do to that industry by restricting artists rights?


#146 of 151 by gull on Mon Sep 10 13:30:04 2001:

This is pretty much the end of "fair use" rights, isn't it?


#147 of 151 by brighn on Mon Sep 10 13:46:21 2001:

#146> Yep. Some spoiled kids ruined it for everyone.

When is the Government going to stop acting like a father in midlife crisis
who's too lazy to come up with serious solutions to his kids' misbehavior and
just lays down "now EVERYONE's lost their priveleges" judgments?


#148 of 151 by polygon on Mon Sep 10 15:26:41 2001:

Re 143.  Not buying the CD is *my* response.  I don't need an illegal copy.

However, this law will have impacts on far more activities than downloading
music.


#149 of 151 by anderyn on Mon Sep 10 15:55:42 2001:

The one that scared me was the "first sale" negation -- i.e., under this act,
it would be illegal to borrow books/cds, etc. from the public library. Taht
was scary!


#150 of 151 by brighn on Mon Sep 10 17:36:53 2001:

#148> Doesn't current copyright "fair use" law also give (or at least imply)
me the right to make archive copies for my *own* private usage?


#151 of 151 by slynne on Mon Sep 10 17:53:18 2001:

hmmm. This is kind of funny because I was just thinking that I could 
take my old pc and put in a larger hard drive and then record all of my 
cd's onto that hard drive and hook it up to my stereo so I could have 
all my music in one place. I can still do that of course but that does 
seem to be what they are going to end up putting a stop to.


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