Grex Music2 Conference

Item 30: How we got hooked on music.

Entered by lumen on Wed Mar 19 23:27:16 1997:

Right now the music conference is few in number, but here's a topic I can make
broad enough for everyone.  Let's talk about how you learned to play your
music-- and I'm including everyone from band buddies to those who can only
play a radio.  From stereophile to the owner of a mere WALKMAN, from music
educator to self-taught musician, from DJ to car audio freak-- everyone has
a different way of getting their music fix.  How was it that you first started
appreciating music?  When was it?  What role does music play in your life?
50 responses total.

#1 of 50 by lumen on Wed Mar 19 23:40:12 1997:

Now for me, I guess I have always had a love of singing.  My folks got me into
the practice of singing along with the radio when I was little.  My father
sang us kids guitar lullabies, and I just recently started learning the
guitar.  I had one of those great Fisher-Price xylophones when I was a tot
too.  My mother played the piano, and so I started lessons when I was 8.  I
was lucky enough to get in band when I was in the fourth grade, and I
continued until about the middle of my freshman year in college.  I have been
playing for church since I was 12 (I'm now 22), and I also learned to play
organ along the way.  I'm self-taught in guitar and valved brass instruments,
but as I said, I was classically trained in piano.

I got interested in audio when a friend of mine started getting into car
stereo systems.  He's one of the best consultants I have-- he is a major
competitor in my area, ranked at about #2.

I'm thinking about becoming an elementary music teacher, so I'm interested
about what attract people (esp. kids of course) to music, and more
importantly, what encourages them to create their own.  Why can some kids sing
and others can't?  The answer seems to be that really anyone can learn to
sing.

It should be obvious now that music is a huge part of my life.  It's in the
blood.


#2 of 50 by ryan1 on Thu Mar 20 00:21:46 1997:

I listen to music constantly.  The only times I don't listen to music is 
while I'm in class at school, or when I'm sleeping.  After school, I 
listen to music on the bus, and from then on until really late.  I hate 
the sound of silence.


#3 of 50 by anderyn on Thu Mar 20 03:17:10 1997:

I have always liked music, but hadn't really gotten into it until a few
years ago. Though I can recall a 45 rpm recording of "The Battle of New
Orleans" that I was *fascinated* with when I was two or three.  And I
*loved* singing folk songs in choir in school, particularly any that 
were identifiably old/British. I was lucky enough that we still did
Christmas songs in school, so I learned a lot of Olde English carols.
As I got older, I listened to radio, but wasn't terribly interested
in popular music as she was in the late sixties, early seventies. (And
gag me with a spoon if I ever hear disco again! Blah.) I collected
a few 45 rpm records and an album or two, even an eight-track or five,
but I wasn't really *into* anything.
Lo and behold, I heard folk music about two years into college. Taht
really got me hooked, and I bought several Steeleye Span recordings,
some Horslips, and a filk recording by Lesley Fish, and those seemed
to keep my musical tastes going for quite a while. 

Again, I really didn't get into it as a living thing, I had my artifacts,
and I liked them. 

Then, seventeen years ago, God help me, I got my current job. Copy
editing. The only way to concentrate -- at least according to my
office-mates -- was by getting a walkman and listening to music. All
of a sudden, I was listening to music eight hours a day. One or two
records weren't enough anymore. I started buying it. I started *listening*
closely. I started going to Schoolkids. And thence leads the way to
perdition. I now have a rather largish collection of tapes and CDs,
though not in the thousands like some people I know -- I do have several
hundred. I listen to them -- still -- about eight hours a day, and 
then there's the radio at night, and on the weekends. So....that's my
tale.


#4 of 50 by jiffer on Thu Mar 20 09:40:04 1997:

Lets see... I duno when i got hooked!  I have always been hooked i guess! 

I guess it could be due to the lack of mind sucking television in Germany for
10 years, and the great antics of my father (My dad was soooo darn funny when
he did Flight of the BubbleBees)  
I also played flute and piccilo for about 4 years and that was a great
influuence as well.  And being in a children's symph/ orchetra  was way great!

I dunno... its a  lot better than tv most of the times anywyas!
 music is the foundation of civilization  (Only my opinion though)


#5 of 50 by katie on Thu Mar 20 15:12:18 1997:

I got a clock radio for Christmas when i was about 9 years old, and that
thing was on literally 24 hours a day for the next 8 years or so.


#6 of 50 by kewy on Fri Mar 21 01:02:34 1997:

i started out the same way.. i got a clock radio for 8$ when i was 7 (amazing
i still member the price) and from then on, i used that thing constantly,
until i got a "boom box" a few years later, when i passed teh clock radio to
my sister, who still has it, 9 years later.


#7 of 50 by lumen on Fri Mar 21 07:56:10 1997:

Ok, we've heard a lot so far from the commercial music junkies-- any DJs,
car/home audiophiles, music educators out there?

What instrument does your father play, Jen?


#8 of 50 by kewy on Sat Mar 22 00:37:44 1997:

i'd really be interested in becoming a DJ, or any type of job dealing with
the playing of music... these days i don't get most of my music from the radio
(what i was assuming you meant by commercial music), one of my favorite
compilations of music is a tape that a friend of mine got from a friend of
hers in england.. i tend to like quite a bit of british music.  A lot of times
i just take a risk on a cd and end up loving it... I've become a big bob
Marley junkie for that reason, the same with Phish, David Bowie, and a few
more obscure things.  Lately i've been dissatisfied with radio around the ann
arbor/detroit area, stations just aren't playing what i'd like to hear, but
hey, you take what you can get.. and i'll take my cds thankyouverymuch


#9 of 50 by rcurl on Sat Mar 22 05:02:32 1997:

I was brought up with pop music in the house and did not get interested -
until I heard Beethoven's 6th Symphony (had to leave home to do that). 
I played it so much I can still recognize it from hearing a couple of bars
from it anywhere. From there, I moved back..to Mozart, Bach, Vivaldi... 
That's where I still dwell.


#10 of 50 by orinoco on Sat Mar 22 22:31:47 1997:

I don't know if I could give a real 'starting point'.  My parents tell me that
when I was a little bean ( I don't know how little, exactly, but I belive
infant rather than toddler), I saw some opera on TV and was fascinated.
One of my earliest memories is the picture on the back of the Abbey Road album
case (the thing with the wall).
I grew up with an *amazing* variety of music--The Beatles, Joni Mitchell,
Bonnie Raitt, Ray Charles, Bach, Stravinski, Bill Staines, Paul Simon, Gilbert
and Sullivan...the list goes on.
I guess if I had to pick a real starting point it would be when I started
taking piano lessons in second or third grade, or perhaps in about fifth grade
when I started taking music composition lessons.  I had been making up little
tunes and whatnot for a while, and so my parents found a student at the U of
M patient enough to put up with the stuff.  Now, eight years after I started
playing piano, and five after I started taking composition, I'm still at it.
For quite a while, through about sixth grade maybe, I really didn't listen
to much in the way of popular music.  In seventh or eighth grade, though, the
local radio stations went through a brief wave of good taste, and I fell in
love.  I'm surprised by the detail in which I remember the songs that were
on the radio that year--even the bad ones, I know some of their lyrics.
And now, local radio is back to being tasteless, but I'm still a fan of a lot
of the bands I first found that year.


#11 of 50 by scott on Sun Mar 23 14:00:41 1997:

My Dad is a music type, having been a bassist, churh organist, etc.  So we
had music around the house a decent amount.  My (older) brother was pretty
heavily into music, so I had opportunities to get at stuff.  We all had piano
lessons, which didn't last, and orchestra which lasted for my brother and me,
but my sister dropped out.

What is interesting is that my brother was in bands all thru high school,
college, and a couple years professionally, while I played a lot but ended
up into computers.  Now we both work in computers, and I'm getting more
involved in making music now than he is.

Unlike some of the others here, I *don't* like having music on all the time.
I tend to listen too critically and get distracted from what I am really
trying to do.  Silence is also music.


#12 of 50 by senna on Wed Mar 26 21:49:59 1997:

I tought myself Power chord guitar, that's about all I know.  I'm not very
good


#13 of 50 by omni on Sat Mar 29 05:44:46 1997:

  I was never into music as a small child, except for what was played on the
car radio, which was country and western. At home, my mother would play her
records mostly classical, and more country mixed in, not to mention the piano
and organ that she played. 
  At 16, I was given my first "boombox" for my 16th birthday. It was an AM-FM
8-track portable (this was 1976, folks), and through that I primarily listened
to CKLW, and WDRQ, both of which were playing Top-40 formats. Through that,
I turned onto Elton John, Chicago, and Bob Seger, mostly.
  I took up the clarinet, and the bass clarinet in high school, which I played
for 3 yrs, but gave up because the dog's suicide notes were starting to sound
really serious ;) I still love to hear trumpet music of any kind, preferably
Al Hirt, Herb Alpert, Maynard Ferguson, and Doc Severenson, whom I consider
to be an absolute master of his instrument.
  Nowadays, my CD collection is an eclectic mix of jazz (Lionel Hampton),
Classical (Bach is my favorite, Chopin, Mozart, Rimsky-Korsakov and Strauss's
waltzes), Stevie Ray Vaughan is a recent discovery, and I am really mad that
I missed the time that he was with us, but I have swore that I will buy
everyone of SRV's CD's. I cannot say enough about how much of a master he was,
and what a loss his death really was.
I also have various country artists, like Chet Atkins, Flatt and Scruggs,
Randy Travis and George Strait. 
  I don't believe that there is any music that is bad, but there is some
terrible music out there. I never liked Metal, or Hard Rock simply because
there was hardly any melody, and hardly any lyrics that can be understood,
but an old Aerosmith or Van Halen will bring a sense of deja vu.
  I am going through a revolution of sorts with the radio. I had been stuck
on the oldies and make no mistake about them, there was some great music from
that era like Rosie and the Originals, Duane Eddy, and Buddy Holly whom I
consider the real king of rock and roll. I now listening to Q95.5, and it's
OK, but I still miss the oldies. ;)


#14 of 50 by grimaldi on Mon May 19 22:33:03 1997:

I've DJ'd once or twice.. It's kinda interesting.. I've been on both ends of
the music type thing.. Both as a listener and performer.. He's a breakdown..
My mother is a former music teacher.. So she *attempted* bless her heart..
To teach me the piano..(she failed..<shrug>) And my Dad played the tuba from
his youth into college for the concert and marching Bands at Morningside
College in Sioux City Iowa (yes there is cool stuff in Iowa ;))
        Now to me..I started in fourth grade. I rented a Sax from Carty's Music
in Ypsi.. Played that for a few months, got disgusted because it sounded like
a bleated Moose..I switch to Trumpet which I played up until about 8th grade
when I got my braces and switched to the Tuba.. Since then I've played it and
am ranked second in our schools Symph Band. So presently I've been playing
the tuba for about three and a half years.. I plan on going on to college and
play in the marching band there.. (wherever I may wind up).
        oh. One final thing.. I just though I'd mention that our band in our
recent tour to Heritage National Band and Choral Festival in Orlando florida
we took first place overall out of over the fifty bands from the fifty states
during three days worth of competition. GO BRAVES!


#15 of 50 by senna on Tue May 20 04:41:14 1997:

This area certainly has impressive bands.  Our orchestra also took first in
a nationwide competition, and our Band's been cutting edge for years.  Seems
like a phenomenon.


#16 of 50 by kewy on Fri May 30 18:58:12 1997:

yeah.. same as huron.. we're lucky..


#17 of 50 by senna on Fri Jun 6 05:48:43 1997:

comes with having a large college alum population to bolster the pocketbooks.


#18 of 50 by kewy on Sat Jun 7 04:02:17 1997:

guess so.


#19 of 50 by katt on Mon Jun 9 14:42:37 1997:

Yeah, Ann Arbor has one of the best music programs in the public schools in
I've ever seen. . .I feel pretty lucky to have grown up here, especialy since
my mother;'s continued presence here has nothing to do with the "U". . .


#20 of 50 by arabella on Tue Jul 1 08:30:21 1997:

Orinoco, who was your composition teacher from the U of M five years
ago?  I wonder if it's anyone I know.  I used to take composition
classes at the School of Music, and got to know a lot of the 
Composition majors.

How did I get into music?  Gee, it's been part of my life since I
was born...  My father played jazz piano.  My mother played French
Horn, violin and viola in High School, and got involved with
folk music when I was a little kid.  We always sang songs on long
car trips.  We heard lots of jazz and classical music on the stereo.
I started flute lessons in 4th grade, piano lessons in 6th grade,
and guitar lessons in 7th grade.  Sang in about 17 different choirs
and choruses over the years.  Had about 13 years of piano lessons
all together, and about 12 years of voice lessons.  I've studied
conducting, musicology and opera at the undergrad and graduate
levels.  This fall I'm going to MSU to get a masters degree in
vocal performance.

Oh yeah, I like various forms of popular music too...  I'll save
it for another response.



#21 of 50 by orinoco on Fri Jul 4 20:37:37 1997:

Interestingly enough, her name was Leslie, thus causing me to do a nice little
double take when I heard you were at the UofM back then :)


#22 of 50 by lumen on Thu Jul 10 18:11:21 1997:

Wow, Leslie-- I'm impressed-- surprised that you don't comment a bit more
often to educate the rest of us (;

I can't boast your track record, but I am self-educated in many of my musical
expressions (voice, organ, guitar, and percussive 'goodies' are some).  Wonder
if I'll be studying music that long.

btw, I'll bet you've got some helpful hints on how to get through theory
(besides just setting aside an extra hour in addition to homework).


#23 of 50 by senna on Thu Jul 10 23:57:08 1997:

Self education is always the best way.


#24 of 50 by orinoco on Fri Jul 11 16:12:36 1997:

mmm....don't neccessarily agree with you, senna, but that might just be our
different musical backgrounds speaking.


#25 of 50 by jiffer on Fri Jul 11 22:06:46 1997:

self education is beneficial, however, i think that a classical education with
exploration can't be too bad.... That is how i got into jazz... I was on the
symphony/ orchestra and while i loved it i explored other types of music and
such.


#26 of 50 by albaugh on Mon Jul 21 15:50:54 1997:

The composition professors that I knew (thru taking classes) at U-M from
1975-79 were Mr. Leslie Bassett, William Albright, and William Bolcom, who
was really a hoot!  :-)


#27 of 50 by remmers on Mon Jul 21 19:13:14 1997:

(Dunno Bassett, but Bill Albright and Bill Bolcom are two of my
favorite ragtimers.)


#28 of 50 by katie on Tue Aug 5 04:27:38 1997:

Mr Bassett and his wife Anita (also a wonderful composer) go to my
church and are acquaintances of mine. He is a Pulitzer prize winner.
Some of his stuff is way bizarre.


#29 of 50 by arabella on Mon Sep 29 07:11:44 1997:

Re #21:  Was her name Leslie Hogan?  If so, she was a friend of mine
back then.  We had the same piano teacher for a year.

Ironically, I studied composition at UM with Bolcom, Albright, and 
Bassett.  Took four semesters altogether, just because I thought
it was interesting.  These days I don't compose at all, though.



#30 of 50 by orinoco on Mon Sep 29 21:49:09 1997:

Yes, that would be her.  Whoa....


#31 of 50 by diznave on Tue Oct 21 20:27:06 1997:

I guess I have been exposed to music as long as I can remember. My parents
are both big fans of "classical", jazz, and folk music. My parents met in the
record store in Chapel Hill, NC that my day was working in.  My mother came
in and asked my dad if he could order a Four Freshman album. The Four Freshmen
happen to be one of his favorite groups. Later, while attending a (I believe)
Lena Horne concert, they ran into each other again. And the rest is history.
My parents both play piano and recorder, and they were always playing together
when I was very young. At a young age, my brother, my sister, and I were given
recorders. When I was in 5th grade, I started playing clarinet for the
elementary school band. At that time, I also started singing in the choir.
I shortly quit the choir (something I've always regretted) because we were
always standing up.  :)  Through 6th and 7th grade, I played clarinet, and
in 8th grade, I switched to bass clarinet. This I played during high school,
until my senior year when I switched again to contra bass clarinet. Wow! What
an instrument! That was 1986, and I've not played clarinet with a group since.
In 1991, the year I got out of the navy, I got a job delivering pizza. Well,
I still had my old recorder, and I started playing it while I delivered
pizzas, and started to get good at steering with my knees. This is something
I've continued until today. I now own two soprano clarinets (one for my car
and one for my bacpack, so  I can play while biking to school) and one alto
recorder for playing at home. Oops! Did I say soprano clarinets? Sorry. I
meant soprano recorders. heh! Anyway, I've picked up some guitar along the
way, as well as a bit of saxophone (my roommate has one), and I'm trying to
get back into playing clarinet( I just recently bought one). 

As far as the development of my musical tastes, I didn't really enjoy the
music my parents were playing until much later in my life. There was always
a love of certain classical peices that I played in the bands I was in (school
orchestras and wind ensembles), but I don't credit the beginning of my own
musical tastes until that fateful day in 1979, when I bought my first album,
Van Halen's _Van Halen_. Back then I listened to Led Zepplin, Black Sabbath,
Boston, AC/DC, Blue Oyster Cult, Kansas, etc. I hadn't really discovered
"classic rock". Well, about 1980 or 81, I got my first stereo (a cheesy
boombox). It was at that time that I started listening to THE RADIO. Well,
seeing as how the airwaves were saturated at that time with Pink Floyd's
_Another Brick in the Wall, part 2_, it was just a matter of time before I
heard it. It changed my life. All of the sudden, the Boston, Kansas, and Blue
Oyster Cult all seemed hollow and lifeless. It wasn't before long that I
purchased Pink Floyd's _Dark Side of the Moon_. These days, whenever I hear
that album, each song brings back specific memories. From there, I became a
classic rock feind. All I listened to was the classic rock station from
Baltimore, and the classic rock station from Washington (I lived almost
halfway between the two cities). Although I don't listen to classic rock
stations anymore (commercial ones anyway), because of the constant playing
of Stairway to Hotel CaliFreebird type songs, these kind of stations
introduced me to a large variety of excellent groups and musicians. I then
had to go and explore these artists' stuff that wasn't being played on the
radio. Oddly enough, my history of jazz enjoyment starts out with a single
album. Before I had ever(that I was aware of) heard any Davis, Monk, Coltrane,
Parker, Brubeck, Getz, Hancock, Mann, or Montgomery, I heard Chuck Mangione's
_Feels So Good_.  <shudder> At the time, I thought it was the funkiest thing
I'd ever heard. About that time I started checking out the public radio
stations late at night, and heard some great jazz. My tastes in all of the
styles of  musicthat I enjoy are still evolving. 


#32 of 50 by lumen on Wed Oct 22 01:12:34 1997:

Hey-- doesn't Chuck Mangione play fluegelhorn?  I thought it was a good album,
although, compared to serious jazz, it is cheese.  Very much the epitome of
70's pop/easy listening soft jazz or whatever you want to call it.  Remember,
Bossa Nova was big then, too.  But, as I say again, the album is so nice--
it's got a standout cut which name I can't remember for a T.V. show that I
can't remember either.

Cheesy, but it does feel so good.


#33 of 50 by diznave on Wed Oct 22 04:58:05 1997:

Yeah, he plays fluglehorn (sp?) I agree...taken by itself, its not bad. But
listen to it right after some more serious jazz, and you can't help but wince
slightly. I'm not sure which song you're referring to, but the first song on
the album has the same name as the album: _Feels So Good_. The other tunes
on the album are:
_Maui-Waui_
_Theme From "Side Street"_  (hey, that's probably it ;->  )
_Hide & Seek_
_Last Dance_
_The XIth Commandment_

Hmmm...never heard of a show called _Side Street_.


#34 of 50 by lumen on Thu Oct 23 04:59:22 1997:

I don't wince, really-- most jazz doesn't have enough emotional depth and
breath for me.  Jazz thinks hard and deep.  It philosophizes.  it
contemplates.  It explores logic.  But I haven't heard much contemporary jazz
that goes through the gauntlet of emotions.

Granted, this stuff doesn't, either.  It reminds me of the stuff I used to
play when I had a jazz stint in middle school (and I really haven't done jazz
since).  But the thing is, it's poppish.  It's almost..easy listening, I
guess.

The theme is the only song I remember or really liked.


#35 of 50 by diznave on Thu Oct 23 18:29:53 1997:

Fortunately, our high school jazz band director was strictly a traditional
jazz man. We played (well, not me...I played bass and contra bass clarinet
in the wind ensemble......but went to all the jazz band shows) mostly cool
jazz. I agree that jazz (the good stuff) is sort of intellectual music. That's
why its not as popular as .....well, pop music. With pop music, you don't have
to think about it. Its right there in your face. No ambiguity. You've got
catchy words and phrases to pull you along (not to take away at all from all
the excellent vocal jazz out there). With jazz, on the other hand, I think
you end up taking in more of the song, than with pop.


#36 of 50 by lumen on Thu Oct 23 23:02:49 1997:

And that was my point.  Perhaps I see the world through super-emotional
glasses, because I can't drench my emotions in jazz.  However, the music I
listen to isn't purely "poppish"-- pop music, especially as of late, has been
all in your face with all hanging out.

Also, I'm sure half the problem is that jazz is becoming too wide of a genre
to be restricted under one name (regardless of the modern purist movement).

I'm also fairly sure that I'm just not as influenced because I didn't grow
up with jazz styles.  My childhood music was folk rock/folk pop.


#37 of 50 by diznave on Fri Oct 24 01:24:31 1997:

Folk pop? You mean something like John Denver? (I've never seen the term folk
pop before.) 


#38 of 50 by mcnally on Fri Oct 24 14:06:52 1997:

  I'm not sure Jon didn't just invent it on the spot.  Folk-pop to me
  suggests acts like Denver, Peter, Paul & Mary, maybe older groups
  like the Weavers..  I'm interested in learning what Jon intended to
  be included in that category.


#39 of 50 by diznave on Fri Oct 24 16:13:27 1997:

Ahhhh...the Weavers...haven't thought of them in quite awhile. I believe they
sing _Kisses Sweeter Than Wine_. Very beautiful song. Brought tears to my
eyes. I've got to get ahold of it again (that song). There aren't too many
artists that you could lump together with John, though. I'll agree with that.
Would I be totally out of line to put Joan Baez and Bob Dylan in the folk pop
category? Maybe so. I think Joan and Bob are more of a bridge between artists
like the ones you mentioned, Mike, and artists like Woody Gutherie or Pete
Seeger.


#40 of 50 by bruin on Fri Oct 24 22:16:06 1997:

Wasn't Pete Seeger a member of the Weavers?


#41 of 50 by lumen on Fri Oct 24 23:43:18 1997:

I was thinking also of James Taylor, Gordon Lightfoot, Carole King, Jim Croce,
Paul Simon (and Art Garfunkel-- sort of), etc.  Anne Murray, Kenny Rogers,
and Linda Ronstat are also put into this category.

It could be said that Linda Ronstat's later work was more poppy, but
_Canciones de Mi Padre_ was definitely a return to her Hispanic musical roots.
(Canciones de Mi Padre= Songs of My Father)


#42 of 50 by diznave on Sat Oct 25 20:26:07 1997:

Hey, bruin...you're right! I just looked on a Peete Seeger page on WWW. Well,
shows what I know.  ;->  Now, I'm going to have to go research the subject.

Jon, okay, I can see those artists grouped together in the pop-folk category,
up to Anne Murray. Anne, Kenny, and Linda, are all three almost completely
unfamiliar (musically) to me. I was unaware that Linda did anything other than
(in my humble opinion) cheesy ballads. I wouldn't recognize *one* Anne Murray
song. Heh heh heh...I wouldn't even recognize a photo of her. I've just heard
her name before. I know two or three Kenny Roger songs that are probably by
no means a good indication of his entire body of work. The other five artists
(six, if you count Art) I *love*. I think John's right up there with all of
them.


#43 of 50 by krj on Mon Oct 27 06:09:50 1997:

I don't know that there are any good definitions for folk-pop, folk-rock,
etc. etc. etc....  ((krj wonders if he shouldn't try to jump this over to 
folk music item, and says the hell with it.))  You start out with
two conflicting defintions of folk -- the academic one and the 
market one.
 
Yes, Pete Seeger was in the Weavers; and before that there was a band 
called The Almanac Singers, with Pete Seeger, Woody Guthrie and others.
The Weavers occupy a key position, historically; in our culture, they 
were the first band to sing folk music professionally, and be successful
at it.  Sometimes I get the feeling that Pete Seeger has some regrets
over inventing commercial folk music.
 
Joan Baez started her career singing traditional songs.  Lots of 
revivalists followed her career trajectory, starting with traditional
songs and moving towards original material.
 
The original folk-rock band was the Byrds; there is a direct line of 
influence from the Byrds to the British folk-rock bands, but in the 
1970s & 1980s, folk-rock in Britain implied a drawing on traditional
sources which was rarely seen in America.
 
And then there is the singer-songwriter swamp...


#44 of 50 by katie on Fri Nov 7 03:11:11 1997:

I was introduced to the types of music I like by my co-worker Ed when I
was 15. We both worked at a coney island place, and I would come to
his house and listen to all his albums while he studied. He was at UM
at the time. Haven't seen him in 17 years; I hear he's an entertainment
lawyer in Venice CA. 


#45 of 50 by teflon on Sat Nov 8 04:17:13 1997:

If you all don't mind hugely (and even if you do) I'm going to bring you 
up on my own musical background.
  Music, first of all, has always been part of my life, and probably an 
integral one.  In other words, if some were to take it away from me 
(impossable) I would probably not be a very usefull person.
  My parents were extreemly musical.  My dad used to play the 
french-horn for many years, before switching to choral work.  As a 
singer, he has a certain degree of success.  He's the lead soloist at 
our church, and he often does many of the solos for 'The Ann Arbor 
Cantata Singers', one of the premier (in my oppinion) local choral 
groups.  He has recently resumed French horn.
  My mom also is in choir, and she plays piano quite well.  She was a 
music major, and a composition wiz (a talent which I pray she will pick 
up again upon retirement).  My parents, of course, met in collage choir.
  I'm not reciting this to brag so much as to give you some idea of 
where I'm coming from ('though I AM rather proud of them).  There only 
major downfall, musically, which I could see, was that they entirely 
focused on classical music.  At which point I can only say 'thank God 
for Avery'.  Avery is my brother, and simply put, has one of the best 
and most eclectic tastes in music I've ever seen.  It was he who 
introduced me to progressive rock, for which I can only thank him 
eternally.
  So what about me, you ask.  Well, I've been singing in church choirs 
for as long as I can remember, and when I entered fourth grade, I 
entered the Ann Arbor Boy Choir, where I first learned to develope my 
voice.  I've had a couple faux pas at musical instruments (traslation: I 
sucked), and I settled with simply voice.  I remained with the AABC for 
abour four years, at which point my voice changed.  When my voice 
settled down enough to sing properly again, I immediately began singin 
again.  Since then, I've been in a variaty of choirs, taken voice 
lessons, sung in a jazz band, and started a band of my own.
  And that's the story so far, 'cept that I have a cold and can't sing 
much of _anything_ at the moment, much to my dismay. <Cricket shuts up: 
"stop your blathering"...>


#46 of 50 by orinoco on Sat Nov 8 16:46:19 1997:

If you've got the same cold I've got, you have my sympathy.  
(And wouldn't a collage choir involve, say, cutting off the baritone's head
and putting it on a soprano's body?)


#47 of 50 by diznave on Sun Nov 9 04:36:27 1997:

  <laugh>


#48 of 50 by teflon on Mon Nov 10 02:07:35 1997:

Dan are you talking about, say, the Kings College choir?  I don't care 
for them much, partly because when I was a little kid I used to view 
them as rivals (they weren't, being as they were so much better than us 
as to not even be a fair compairison) and all of there stuff that my 
parents have is chrismas music. <Cricket clutches his throat and falls 
dramatically to the floor, gurgling.>


#49 of 50 by otaking on Wed Feb 24 19:08:14 1999:

I guess I got into music through listening to my folks music. That mainly
consisted of the Beatles, Neil Diamond, Chicago, Kenny Rogers, Elton John,
and the Godspell soundtrack. I also watched all of the music based kids shows
including The Monkees (still a favorite of mine), the Beatles cartoon, the
Jackson 5 cartoon, and Menudo <shudder>.

The earliest personal influence that I remember was an early love for
classical music. I had a recording of the Nutcracker Suite that I listened
to constantly as a kid. I also got this set of classical LPs that were sold
as a huge set at Meijers (I think) when I was a kid. At the time, that was
the only way I could listen to them.

It wasn't until I got a Walkman for Christmas one year that I really got into
pop music. Sure I listened to it, but I didn't pay attention to the artists
until I could actually buy their music. During high school, I bought a lot
of mainstream tapes, especially Genesis and Phil Collins.

It wasn't until I got into college that I developed the music tastes I have
today. My folks bought me a CD boom box for my B-day one year. I started to
buy any CD that grabbed my attention. Eventually, I stumbled into the
alternative scene and more unusual stuff like The Residents and Throbbing
Gristle. I also developed a taste for female singer/songwriters like Kate
Bush and Sarah McLachlan.

Thanks to years of late night jobs, I listened to the Liz Copeland show on
WDET. Now I listen to a wide range of music including Techno, Ambient, Goth,
Reggae, Funk, Punk, Classical, J-pop, Celtic, and World Music. I haven't
explored any kind of music to any real depth, but I have tried a wide variety
and enjoyed most types of music. This conference has given me many ideas of
music I should look for.


#50 of 50 by eeyore on Fri Feb 26 01:39:51 1999:

I got into it because I used to listen to my parents radio with them.  I
would spend hours just sitting in front of the speakers listening...what
ever was on the radio at the time (Linda Ronstadt, Billy Joel, Phil Collins,
Christopher Cross, basically the early 80's version of 103 or the likes. :),
plus the stuff that my parents would listen too (KIngston Trio esp!  :) 
From there, I branched out, since I had a little record player that my
brother would take from me to listen to his Rush and Supertramp records.  I
am very much a musical chameleon...If somebody around me is enjoying it,
I'll start to usually.  I've picked up some really great music that way. :)
And if I can't sing to it, then never mind...I have almost no patience for
instrumental.  Except for a few things....:)


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