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Item 28: The 1997 Grammys.

Entered by omni on Mon Mar 3 19:05:54 1997:

  
     So what did you think of the Grammys? Did your favorite person win, or
get hosed by the Academy. I for one feel that Tracy Chapman should have beat
out Sheryl Crow for best female vocal. I think Tracy has been influenced a
little by Stevie Ray Vaughan. 
     (you can find out who won from http://www.grammy.apple.com
16 responses total.

#1 of 16 by krj on Tue Mar 4 15:39:15 1997:

Wow.  In past years there's always been a big round of Grammy abuse
after the awards came out.  
 
I need to go look at the specialist awards.  I hear Springsteen won 
"best contemporary folk album" for TOM JOAD, which doesn't strike 
me as surprising or unreasonable.  At least that awful Richard Thompson
album didn't win that category.


#2 of 16 by jradio on Tue Mar 4 18:22:24 1997:

I was happy to see that Toni Braxton got an award. 


#3 of 16 by kewy on Tue Mar 4 20:06:17 1997:

i dunno, the music i listen to doesn't partiucularly tend twords anything that
was nominated at all.. therefore, i don't really think the people that got
the awards were particularly the best suited for the award.  I don't usually
tend to like award shows anyways.... but really i see the grammys as just
being a way to say "this song got played the most on radio and mtv"
<set ramble off>


#4 of 16 by omni on Wed Mar 5 13:27:50 1997:

  Now that I've heard the song twice, I can say she deserved it. She sings
so passionatly, and lets the melody eddy around her words. I'll probably wind
up buying that one as well.


#5 of 16 by otaking on Wed Mar 5 13:40:19 1997:

Although I agree and understand why Leann Rimes (sp?) won a Grammy for
Best New Artist, I'm disappointed that Jewel didn't win. Jewel`s music
has a distinctive feel to it while Leann Rimes won, IMHO, because she
can sing like older country singers at 14. Yes, she has a lot of potential
to grow from a great beginning like that, but she still hasn't developed
her own sound yet. And on those grounds, I think Jewel should have won.


#6 of 16 by orinoco on Wed Mar 5 21:17:12 1997:

What's the big deal about having 'your own sound?'  Much of the music I like
is fairly unique in terms of style or 'sound', but much of it is also, I will
admit, completely derivative.  The point remains, however, that it is good
music and I enjoy listening to it.


#7 of 16 by lumen on Wed Mar 5 22:22:07 1997:

I have to agree with Katy that the Grammys are very strongly influenced by
demand in the music industry, and not always quality.  My take would be, "This
song/video deserves an award since DJs and VJs oversaturated the market and
people amazingly aren't sick of it yet, so it must be really good."  Also,
Jim, I hope your opinions of why Tracy Chapman aren't just because she seems
to be influenced by a legendary blues artist.  Her recent album is very pretty
and not as depressing as her last.  I think the problem might be that part
of her audience is the lesbian community, and that might have biased the
judges against her, besides the fact she is a black woman (and lesbian,
perhaps).  The lesbian culture has adopted a folk soun that is a little
blues-influenced.  In fact, it also seems to be a musical preference.  Jewel
seems to be using this sound, and that may have been a strike against her.
Even if my conclusions are wrong, country is known to be very popular with
women, besides the fact the genre is enjoying an overall popular status.  Folk
just doesn't seem to be as in demand as country is.  I could get into a
discussion of how listener demographics plays into this (hypothetically), but
I'll spare it.


#8 of 16 by robh on Sat Mar 8 12:49:08 1997:

This item has been linked from Music 28 to Intro 151.
Type "join music" at the Ok: prompt for discussion of
Grammys, grungies, the gran grignol, and other musical
topics.


#9 of 16 by jovan96 on Mon Mar 24 16:27:42 1997:

I think it's the judges that decide who wins and they have their biases too.
Therefore it is not based on popularity but personal preference. The media
may influence them too.


#10 of 16 by simi on Sun Apr 27 18:41:13 1997:

How are the grammys selected? How many judges are thre usually? 


#11 of 16 by krj on Mon Apr 28 03:14:25 1997:

There are not any judges, really.  The Grammy Awards are voted on by 
all members of NARAS, the National Association for the Recording Arts
& Sciences, a music industry trade group.


#12 of 16 by tijus on Sat Sep 11 07:50:19 1999:

How does NARAS distinguishes between folk and rock ?


#13 of 16 by orinoco on Sun Sep 12 00:25:05 1999:

I've wondered the same thing for a while, actually.  Anyone?


#14 of 16 by krj on Mon Sep 13 03:25:50 1999:

Probably it's the marketers who decide, but I'm just speculating.


#15 of 16 by dbratman on Tue Sep 14 20:52:17 1999:

How do the people who shelve CDs in the store distinguish between folk 
and rock?  The answer is the same, I'm sure: a combination of 
marketing, record labeling, perceived style, past history, and just 
random arbitrary decisions.  The last place I checked, Fairport 
Convention was folk, but Richard Thompson was rock.


#16 of 16 by lumen on Thu Sep 23 20:25:56 1999:

therefore, it would seem the labeling is based on cyclical trends, and 
not necessarily linear thinking.  Really serious musicians get bored 
probably before the rest of us do, so they mix up styles faster than 
the scenes serve them up.  I mean, music grows and evolves-- and not 
many people really think about the musicology of it all.

That tends to be reserved for music majors and music grad students 
studying history and such.


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