Grex Music2 Conference

Item 27: Folk Music

Entered by krj on Sun Mar 2 06:21:38 1997:

My particular interest is in folk and folk-rock music from 
England, Scotland and Ireland, so I'm surprised I haven't started 
a folk music item before now.
228 responses total.

#1 of 228 by krj on Sun Mar 2 06:40:28 1997:

I'll start things off by mentioning that I discovered a new folk
radio show today, while driving to meet the Saturday Grex Walkers
for lunch.  It's on WCBN, 88.3 FM in Ann Arbor, and it probably 
starts at 10 or 11 am Saturday morning, running to noon or 1.
They played Steeleye Span, Adrian Legg, and some rather lovely 
French accordion, bagpipe and hurdy-gurdy music which I never did
identify.
 
A week ago Friday, the band Cordelia's Dad played a fine show at
Ten Pound Fiddle in East Lansing.  The band has now settled on 
an all acoustic, all-traditional format.  They've added a 
fourth member, fiddler Laura Risk, who fills out the sound nicely.
 
Cordelia's Dad began around 1990 as a rock trio playing English and 
American folk songs.  I describe their first, self-titled CD as:
"The Ramones Play Folk Music."  Two years later, the band had ditched
the British material, and they were starting to venture into 
acoustic sounds.  HOW CAN I SLEEP, the CD from that period, is 
the best American electro-trad album I know of.

Then the band entered a period of turmoil....    (more to come)



#2 of 228 by krj on Mon Mar 3 08:14:45 1997:

... in which they tried to exist as a band which played acoustic 
sets and electric rock sets.  Tim Eriksen of the band told me that this 
was not working well; it's quite exciting artistically, but the reality
of the music business is that there are acoustic venues and alternative 
rock venues, and most of the audiences at these venues know pretty well
what they want.
 
When I saw the band around '95 at the Ark, the original guitarist had 
left.  Tim Eriksen had switched from bass to guitar and banjo, and 
Cath Oss had joined.  Cath just sang harmonies in the acoustic set,
and she played bass in the rock set.  In '95 the acoustic set was 
tremendously exciting, and the rock set seemed mostly confused.
 
Last fall Cordelia's Dad announced that they were going to be acoustic-only
in the future.  They're repackaging their rock aspirations as a different
band called Io, and both Cordelia's Dad and Io are planning to have releases
out this summer.  After hearing the Ten Pound Fiddle show, I'm eagerly
looking forward to the Cordelia's Dad album; I think it will be as good 
as their best previous album.  I don't know *what* I should be expecting
from the Io album.


#3 of 228 by jradio on Tue Mar 4 18:19:39 1997:

I have an old record by a British group from the early to mid 70's calle The
New Seekers. Has anyone ever heard of them, and are they a spin-off of a group
from the 60's called The Seekers.


#4 of 228 by bruin on Tue Mar 4 21:21:08 1997:

RE #3 The New Seekers were apparently a spinoff from the 1960's Seekers ("I'll
Never Find Another You"/"Georgy Girl").  The New Seekers' biggest hits were
"Look What They've Done To My Song" (written by folksinger Melanie) and "I'd
Like To Teach The World To Sing" (which was a spinoff of a Coca-Cola
commercial).


#5 of 228 by kewy on Wed Mar 5 20:02:33 1997:

sure it wasn't the other way around? i was always told the song came first,
then the commercial.


#6 of 228 by jiffer on Wed Mar 12 07:21:51 1997:

 i thought the comerical was a spin off of the song....


#7 of 228 by krj on Mon Mar 17 03:47:40 1997:

Jumping a discussion over from the World Music item:  
the quasi-hit single from Cape Breton fiddler Ashley MacIsaac has 
a woman singing in Gaelic.  This has led a number of people to assume
that Ashley is female.  
 
Ashley's singer is Mary Jane Lamond, also of Cape Breton.  She has her
own solo album out, FROM THE LAND OF THE TREES, which is one of the 
finer Gaelic song albums I've heard recently.  MacIsaac plays on most
of the tracks.


#8 of 228 by mziemba on Wed Mar 19 13:45:23 1997:

Well, let's just say that I wind up at the Ark, a lot...

My brother and my dad used to record Simon and Garfunkle songs on our
reel-to-reel tape deck.  I think that's probably where it all started, for
me.  It was a long line of heroes, after that.

There was Billy.  A friend gave me a tape of _Talking With the Taxman
About Poetry_.  Who was this guy, singing about socialism and sex?

At college, I got to review The Proclaimers' first album when it came out
in 1988.  My roommate left the lp on top of an amp and I thought I'd never
see it again.  Luckily they hit it big, four years later, and I had no
trouble finding a replacement.

Our production manager at the newspaper got me hooked on Loudon Wainright
III, and I never quite recovered...  He had a radio show, too, named after
a Neil Young song, "For the Turnstyles".

Then there was this industrial hip-hop rap band.  Believe me, I was little
confused when they opened up for a folk rock concert.  I wound up so
impressed, however, that I followed their lead singer into another band,
and caught *their* opening act, the amazing LA-based Ben Harper. 

While waiting in line for an oil change in the dead of winter, I was
introduced to "The Pagans and the Christians" via an interview with Dar
Williams.  I laughed so hard I nearly forgot it took more than an hour to
get a fifteen-minute oil change.  The weather warmed up and so did the
audience when we saw her, later that year. 

As long as we're on the subject, Leo Kottke's "Why Can't You Fix My Car" 
was running through my head as mine was in surgery.  Luckilly, it didn't
prevent me from finally seeing him, for the first time, last year.  I'm
not exactly sure what to call his music, other than mighty fine... 

I'd say more, but I've probably already got you scratching your head...

  


#9 of 228 by anderyn on Thu Mar 20 03:08:26 1997:

Grin. I got to hear her do that one live, soon after she wrote it, when
she opened for Keelaghan a while back. (Dar Williams, Christians and
Pagans).

I tend to be much more focussed on British/Celtic/traditional music than
any American stuff, though I do like some singer-songwriter types (um,
Mary Chapin Carpenter, Keelaghan, Garnet Rogers...Darden Smith.... um,
sheesh, John Hiatt...) and I'm a sucker for anything that takes trad.
musical forms and gives it a rock sensibility, aka things like the
Levellers, the Oysterband, the Tansads, um, Cordelia's Dad, Tempest,
Boiled in Lead... I think it's the fiddle that does it for me in a lot
of these groups, since I find that it's so cool. (Also appearing on
my top ten list are Horslips and a lot of the newer Scottish/Irish
bands that are NOT trad. at all, but most of their stuff's at work.)


#10 of 228 by krj on Thu Mar 20 11:12:19 1997:

Here's some disappointing news about the "Celtic rock" band Wolfstone,
from the latest issue of Scotland's "Living Tradition" magazine.
 
Wolfstone, after fulfilling all their current tour commitments, is 
going to suspend touring for at least six months to reassess the future
of the band.  The article says that they have the touring expenses of 
a rock group, but they are only pulling the income of a folk group,
and the tone of the item suggests that Wolfstone's future, if it has
any at all, will be as a part time group.


#11 of 228 by mziemba on Thu Mar 20 11:38:42 1997:

I love Darden Smith...  There's another concert I could kick myself for
missing at the Ark (the Boo Hewerdine/Darden Smith reunion)...  I never
grow tired of Darden's _Little Victories_ album.  That alone should've
been enough to get me out to the show.  But, silly me...had never heard
the Hewerdine collaboration, so I gave it up.

I finally ran across _Evidence_ at the library and then I coulda cried...




#12 of 228 by mziemba on Thu Mar 20 11:51:14 1997:

I heard Hiatt's "Lipstick Sunset" a while back and that got me interested.
I've kept up with him, since.  I was at a concert when some guy from a lousy
band smashed a guitar.  All I could think of was Hiatt's line in "Perfectly
Good Guitar":  "there oughta be a law with no bail, smash a guitar and you
go to jail, with no chance of early parole, don't get out until you get some
soul".  No kidding...


#13 of 228 by tpryan on Sat Mar 29 18:28:52 1997:

        I find myself liking American folkies quite a bit, including
Michigan's Joel Mabus, Kitty Donahue, Chennile Sisters and others.
Also like some Canadian fokies I've heard, Stan Rogers being tops.


#14 of 228 by mziemba on Sat Mar 29 18:38:42 1997:

I love the Chenille Sisters.  They're a lot of fun...


#15 of 228 by krj on Sun Mar 30 05:49:23 1997:

News from the new issue of DIRTY LINEN magazine:  Steeleye Span is 
booking a North American tour for June.  Usually Steeleye's US visits
haven't gone farther into the American interior than Pittsburgh; but 
the one announced stop on this tour is Houston, so maybe we'll 
get lucky.


#16 of 228 by anderyn on Mon Mar 31 01:21:54 1997:

Yes, yes, yes! (II will sacrifice to the gods of folk music if only it
came true.)


#17 of 228 by mziemba on Mon Mar 31 11:36:55 1997:

I see we also have another magazine in common, Ken!


#18 of 228 by krj on Thu Apr 10 01:13:30 1997:

I'm planning to be at the Ark for Thursday's concert by Natalie 
MacMaster.  Natalie is a young Cape Breton fiddler.  I assume she'll 
be with her regular piano accompanist Tracey Dares.  
 
Cape Breton is the eastern end of Nova Scotia, and the fiddle music 
there has a big Scottish influence.  Ashley MacIsaac is also from Cape 
Breton.  Natalie is *not* as flashy as Ashley is.


#19 of 228 by mziemba on Thu Apr 10 05:49:33 1997:

When's the show?  8P?  Hmmm...  I'll let you know if being there winds up a
possibility.


#20 of 228 by mziemba on Sat May 3 07:31:07 1997:

Well, I just picked up the first volume of the new Woody Guthrie compilation
on Smithsonian/Folkways.  Included are some great liner notes, a rare version
of "This Land Is Your Land", and some darn fine music.  I highly recommend
this one as both a good starter album for the uninitiated and a good
reminiscence for the familiar.


#21 of 228 by senna on Wed May 7 01:05:24 1997:

My american history class spent a whole day on woody guthrie.. probably
because the teacher is a fan of his music, but still.  he was a significant
figure.


#22 of 228 by mziemba on Thu May 8 09:11:26 1997:

Steve-  Wow!  I wish I had had your history teacher!


#23 of 228 by orinoco on Sat May 10 00:33:42 1997:

<seconds that>


#24 of 228 by jiffer on Sun Jun 15 14:45:53 1997:

NOOOOOOOOOOO! THE WOLFSTONES CAN'T QUIT! *sobs of dispair*
someone buy them a lottery ticket!


#25 of 228 by krj on Sun Jun 15 19:43:20 1997:

There are all sorts of rumors on Usenet's rec.music.celtic suggesting 
that the real cause of the Wolfstone split is a dispute with their
record company.  ???
 
Speaking of Scottish band splits:  Donnie Munro, the lead singer of 
Runrig, made a run for Parliament in the recent UK election, where 
he was a candidate of the Scottish Nationalist Party.  
Munro did not win the seat, but he is leaving Runrig to pursue 
politics.  His farewell with the band is coming up sometime this 
summer, a big concert in Scotland of course.


#26 of 228 by mziemba on Mon Jun 16 05:11:37 1997:

This month's _Rhythm Music_ magazine features articles on Celtic music.  There
was an ad for some festival that was going on this weekend in NYC area. 
Although I find this magazine to be nearly the _Vogue_ of world music, it
helps pass the time...



#27 of 228 by krj on Tue Jun 17 20:36:23 1997:

New web page for the Ark, the major folk venue in Ann Arbor:
http://www.a2ark.org


#28 of 228 by jiffer on Tue Jun 17 22:53:30 1997:

kewlio!!!!! shanks!


#29 of 228 by orinoco on Wed Jun 18 01:11:22 1997:

Would one real word per response be too much to ask, jiffer? :)


#30 of 228 by jiffer on Wed Jun 18 03:58:44 1997:

This text is to show Orinoco that, yes, i can use real words. However, I
personally am against mundaness and have my own rules for living.  thank you
and please, enjoy the show.

Viva La Music!


#31 of 228 by mziemba on Wed Jun 18 09:34:11 1997:

I'm listening to Dar Williams tonight and recalling all of the things that
draw me to folk music:  intimacy, warmth, and honesty.


#32 of 228 by mziemba on Wed Jun 18 09:36:19 1997:

Is there another Ark, somewhere else?  Why the "a2" in their address?


#33 of 228 by anderyn on Wed Jun 18 13:45:11 1997:

Dunno. Maybe they just didn't want to give up 
their site on daddyo.com?

It's a nice site though. (The next show I'm 
going to attend will probably be the Mustards 
Retreat in July... but I'm looking forward to 
seeing what else makes the summer schedule.



#34 of 228 by mziemba on Thu Jun 19 04:31:29 1997:

Twila, I seem to recall you mentioning that you volunteered at the Ark.
I'd like to find out more about that...



#35 of 228 by anderyn on Thu Jun 19 12:38:14 1997:

Yeah, I do. Um, basically, you can ask at the snack bar at a  show, though
it's wisest to wait until it's not busy :-). Then  you can sign up in
the volunteer book, and work shows. Uusually, you prepare the place,
(make coffee, popcorn, make sure there's tp in the bathrooms, etc.),
then actually work behind the bar and or as a few other things, and 
after the show, you help clean up.That's for typical volunteers,
but htere are also sound-board people (who have to know how to do
it first), and people who do other things, but I'm not sure how that 
works. It's a lot of fun, and you usually (if you want) can talk to
to the artists and gerenally make a bunch of new friends. 


#36 of 228 by orinoco on Thu Jun 19 19:03:23 1997:

Excessive neatness...


#37 of 228 by mziemba on Mon Jun 23 07:01:48 1997:

Cool.  Thanks for the tips, Twila!  I didn't realize they opened up the
soundboard to qualified volunteers.


#38 of 228 by jiffer on Mon Jun 23 21:37:23 1997:

Thanks Ken for introducing me to Karen Casey, Richard and Linda Thompson, 
and Natalie MacMaster.  I plan on taping them!  Much enjoyed! 


#39 of 228 by anderyn on Tue Jun 24 00:39:47 1997:

You didn't know R.Thompson?! He's soooo good...


#40 of 228 by krj on Tue Jun 24 14:48:58 1997:

(there's some really old Richard Thompson discussion in oldmusic cf., 
item #8, which jiffer might find of interest.)


#41 of 228 by mziemba on Tue Jun 24 14:52:27 1997:

I like what I've heard of Richard Thompson.  I have yet to delve deeply into
his material, however.  I'm sure much pleasure awaits me...


#42 of 228 by jiffer on Tue Jun 24 23:44:48 1997:

well, i hope to enjoy others.  I didn't check out the folk music section of
the library today, but, the next time i am in there, I might dive in. So, if
you have any suggestions or comments on any of the music (folk, jazz or
experimental, or blues) just give a hollar!


#43 of 228 by anderyn on Wed Jun 25 00:15:24 1997:

The library(if you're talking the AA Public) doesn't really have a good
folk section. I have been terribly unimpressed by it, but then I have
nearly everything they do which I'm interested in. 

Actually, I only got into Richard Thompson about five or six
years ago, though a friend at work had turned me on to his then-current
album (the one with "Waltzing's for Dreamers" on it, which I fell in
love with) and I'd noted that he was pretty neat. Unfortunately,
the two things I picked up after that were not his better works (an
early one with Linda that I really hated, though now I like her voice
just fine... go fig... and the experiemental one with the four guys that
still makes me shudder when I hear it & I've repressed the titles...)
Then came the superb album with "Vincent Black Lightning " on it,
and I definitely put Thompson on my must-buy list. The only folk festival
I attended had him as a guest, and I enjoyed seeing/hearing him live,
but unfortunately he only had a fifteen minute slot after Bela Fleck
went overlong. Sob. I wasn't as impressed with Mirror Blue, nor the
one which came out this year, but I really love "Watching the Dark"
now that I've broken down and spent the bucks on it.


#44 of 228 by mcnally on Wed Jun 25 03:51:06 1997:

  "Mirror Blue" was quite disappointing but I like "You? Me? Us?"
  (which seems to set me apareart from what I gather from other RT fans.)
  It's certainly not his best album and it has some consistency problems
  (i.e. it could probably have stood to be trimmed to a single album..)
  but overall I think it's pretty good. 

  The problem, perhaps, is that Thompson fans aren't satisfied
  with "pretty good", they expect (and often receive) excellent..
  "You? Me? Us?" is miles better than "Mirror Blue", though, or some of
  his other less-successful projects ("Sweet Talker" soundtrack anyone?
  Richard Thompson imitates Mark Knopfler.  Feh!)


#45 of 228 by anderyn on Wed Jun 25 13:11:33 1997:

"You? Me? Us?" was kind of uneven in my humble opinion. I haven't listened
to it as much as the otherones I have, just because I am not sure 
abuout it.


#46 of 228 by mziemba on Thu Jun 26 09:19:05 1997:

I liked _Mirror Blue_, but, then again, I don't think I've heard much else.
I like Mitchell Froom, too, who produced the album.  He's done some great work
with Crowded House and Suzanne Vega (whom he's now married to).
 
I might change my mind as soon as I hear some more...
 


#47 of 228 by krj on Fri Jun 27 18:30:36 1997:

I don't have any particular feelings about Mitchell Froom, but I 
much prefer Thompson's earlier work with producers Joe Boyd and John Wood.
The Froom era of Thompson's work, which begins in 1988 with AMNESIA
if I remember correctly, has produced only one really good album, 
RUMOR AND SIGH, for my tastes.  
 
I never got into MIRROR BLUE, though I like some of the songs in it.
 
I've found YOU ME US repellent.  I used to hate it even when Schoolkids 
was playing it in the store.  I can't bring myself to listen to it 
enough to figure out why.  I also got the live fan club recording 
from the 1994 tour, TWO LETTER WORDS, and so far I don't like 
*that* either.  Moomph.
 
One friend suggests that RT settled into domestic bliss in his 
second marriage and that has taken some of the brilliance out of 
his work since the mid-1980s.
 
There is a new Thompson album, INDUSTRY, recorded with his non-brother
Danny Thompson (former Pentangle bass player).  A mix of RT songs and 
DT instrumentals, a concept album about the rise and fall of the 
industrial era in Britain.  Haven't really listened to it enough yet.
 
Later this year (so it is reported) Thompson is scheduled to 
record an album with early music specialist Phillip Pickett
(who played session work on several RT albums, and who was also 
a member of the Albion Band in the 1970s) and the Fairport 
Convention rhythm section.


#48 of 228 by mziemba on Sat Jun 28 06:44:15 1997:

The Pickett/Thompson album sounds like it will be interesting.
 
Joe Boyd is a cool producer.  I've seen his name on a few good recordings
I've heard.

Thompson, by the way, has played on a few Loudon Wainright III albums that
are worth hearing.



#49 of 228 by mziemba on Wed Jul 16 08:43:49 1997:

New Dar Williams album is out...yummy yummy yummy!


#50 of 228 by krj on Wed Jul 23 19:56:23 1997:

Twila needs to bring us a review of Thompson's INDUSTRY album, since she 
has my copy at the moment.  :)
 
I'm afraid I'm very lukewarm on Dar Williams, though I have lots of 
friends who adore and worship her.  "As Cool As I Am" is kind of catchy,
bu "The Christians and the Pagans" is so bleeping didactic, and with 
such a monotonous melody that it sends me lunging 
for the next-track button.  
I was annoyed that song was the big time-consuming finale of her short 
set at Philadelphia Folk Festival last year.
 
Ark stuff:  There's the annual August Celtic music festival coming up.
And also coming up is Cordelia's Dad: see my responses #1 & 2 in this 
item.  More details later, when Netscape stops crashing on me.  :/



#51 of 228 by mziemba on Tue Aug 5 07:52:50 1997:

Anybody see the new Ark schedule, yet?  Anything interesting?


#52 of 228 by jiffer on Tue Aug 5 21:55:06 1997:

well ... the only i remeber is celtic stuff at the beginning of this month.
I plan to attend one of the events. I just got to find my big black book to
remeber which one.


#53 of 228 by tpryan on Wed Aug 6 01:15:37 1997:

David Wilcox at Borders Books & Music, Ann Arbor, August 6th, 6pm, Wed.


#54 of 228 by krj on Mon Aug 18 19:55:43 1997:

Here's an early warning for your October calendars:  Muzsikas w/
Marta Sebesteyn, October 27, the Ark.
 
There are five "celtic" shows on the September Ark calendar:
mmm, where should I discuss them?  :)

-----

Richard Thompson had some exposure on PBS television on Saturday 
night, on a new series called something like "Live on 54th Street."
Suzanne Vega had the first half-hour, which we missed, and then Thompson
had the second half-hour.  He only did four songs, broken up with 
some filmed interview segments.

The playlist:  "Feel So Good," "Galway to Graceland," the Hamlet cover
RT was playing on his last tour, and "1952 Vincent Black Lightning,"
with Nanci Griffith singing a few harmonies.


#55 of 228 by lumen on Mon Aug 18 21:32:51 1997:

Ergh...Suzanne Vega on PBS?  I wonder when that showed on Seattle or
Pullman/Tri-Cities PBS..I'm sure she was nice :)


#56 of 228 by mziemba on Tue Aug 19 07:55:47 1997:

Wow...I'm in heaven...Marta at the Ark!  Thanks, Ken!


#57 of 228 by jiffer on Wed Aug 20 18:39:26 1997:

Shanks Ken!!!!  
I saw a segment of "Live on 54th Street" a couple of weeks ago when I was
visiting relatives in Ohio.  Looks promising, and (now that i have cable)
something i might actually keep up with!.


#58 of 228 by tpryan on Sun Aug 24 15:31:24 1997:

        The first show on the Sept Ark calendar that has peaked my 
interest is John McCutchen on September 5th, Fri.


#59 of 228 by krj on Mon Aug 25 17:07:43 1997:

Arabella & I are back from the Philadelphia Folk Festival -- 2/3rds of 
of the Festival, anyway -- and I'll type in some random thoughts 
over the next few days.


#60 of 228 by krj on Tue Aug 26 03:59:39 1997:

...and you would have gotten two screens of reviews if my net 
connection hadn't locked up, dad blast it.  Maybe tomorrow.


#61 of 228 by mziemba on Tue Aug 26 04:31:07 1997:

Dar Williams will be at the Ark, September 2, for a 7:30P and a 9:30P show...


#62 of 228 by krj on Tue Aug 26 18:14:11 1997:

The Friday afternoon concert at the Philadelphia Folk Festival
is intended to be a showcase for relatively new performers.

Cordelia's Dad -- A pretty good set of American traditional songs from an
                  old favorite band of mine.  (See response #1 in this item.)

Chuck Brodsky -- I'm generally allergic to singer-songwriters, but Brodsky 
                 has a pretty good streak of black humor, which showed most
memorably in his song about freeway drivers with guns.  Perhaps he'll bring
that song to his free show at the Ark, Tues. Sept. 9.

Suzzy Roche -- She's temporarily working as a solo act while The Roches
               take a break following the death of their father.  
Unfortunately the quirky vocal stylings which are fun in harmony settings
irked me in her solo singing.
 
Salamander Crossing -- On record, this band has been pleasant but nothing 
                       too special.  Live, their old-timey/bluegrass/folk
stylings really sparkled, and the fiddler/singer sounded better than I'd
heard her in the past.

(Also on Friday afternoon:  Kristina Olsen, who made my ears perk up 
just a *little* bit; Malaika, a women's acapella group from Canada;
Lucy Kaplansky; David Olney.)

-----

Friday evening:

Pele Juju -- Discovery #1 of my festival weekend.  This band of women from 
             California have a very catchy, percussion-based version of 
sounds from Africa and the Carribean, and they were a big hit with the 
festival crowd, who vacuumed up their (self-released?) CDs. 

Kate & Anna McGarrigle -- Despite some buzzing problems with the sound 
                          system, I was delighted to finally have a chance
to see them perform.  Most of the songs came from the new album MATAPEDIA;
from the catalog, they sang "Heart Like A Wheel" and "Heartbeats 
Accelerating," plus a funny song from Kate's ex-husband Loudon Wainwright.
Kate & Loudon's daughter Martha Wainwright was there: she sang harmonies
on a few songs, and she also sang one of her own songs.  Martha has 
a tape out, so I guess she's going to try to follow in her parents'
footsteps.  Leslie quite liked Martha's song.

Dan Bern -- Hoo hah!!  Bern is one of the unfortunate recipients of 
            the "new Dylan" marketing tag.  I don't see why; he seems mostly 
to rant about sex, in largely free-associational style.  He started out with
a song about how Marilyn Monroe should have married Henry Miller 
instead of Arthur Miller.  There was a song which purported to be 
about Tiger Woods with the memorable line, "My balls are big but I wish
they were bigger!!"  While a Philadelphia TV station was getting ready 
for their live remote from the top of the hillside, Bern was in the 
background screaming the F-word rather often.  
 
Heh.  Definitely not my style.  As the Festival is trying to market itself 
as a family event, I'm confident Dan Bern will not be invited back.

Tempest -- I don't like Tempest.  Every now and then I hear something 
           by them which I *do* like, but they don't seem able to 
sustain this liking for more than a song or two.  Their singing grates
on me; after watching their Spinal-Tap kickline dancing for a few 
moments, I went back to tending nieces at Leslie's mom's craft booth.
The crowd loved them, and their CDs were huge sellers.

Also on the Friday evening bill:  guitarist/singer/songwriter Les Sampou,
cowboy singer & yodeller Don Edwards, and Keb' Mo', who I had to miss 
completely.




#63 of 228 by anderyn on Tue Aug 26 18:24:59 1997:

Tempest is really uneven, but I like more of their stuff than I don't.



#64 of 228 by mziemba on Wed Aug 27 07:11:34 1997:

Okay, I was wrong about Dar Williams at the Ark...it's *October* 2, not
September 2...
 
Silly me...


#65 of 228 by mziemba on Wed Aug 27 17:13:06 1997:

Has anybody checked out the Smithsonian/Folkways re-release of the American
folk music recordings, compiled and annotated by some interesting fellow whose
name I can't recall at the moment?  Comes in a box set, runs about $75.  Looks
real interesting...
 
There's a big display over at Schoolkids', with a blow-up of an article from
the _Metro Times_ about it.  Can't miss it...


#66 of 228 by orinoco on Wed Aug 27 22:05:45 1997:

Hmm...I think we've got a Pele Juju CD.  I've listened to it once or twice,
didn't find it that memorable, but maybe I should pull it out again.


#67 of 228 by krj on Fri Aug 29 07:12:29 1997:

Way back to #50:  Twila *still* needs to bring us a review of the 
INDUSTRY album by the Thompson Twins (*ahem*).
 
Mark #65: I haven't been to Schoolkids recently, but Bob Blackman 
featured quite a few tracks from the Smithsonian anthology on 
his Sunday night radio show -- I guess it must have been two weeks ago.
At $75, ow ow ow, I will probably drop some hints that it would be a 
nice Christmas present.
 
orinoco #66:  Could you follow up on that Pele Juju CD?  What's it called, 
where did you get it, stuff like that.


#68 of 228 by mziemba on Fri Aug 29 07:47:50 1997:

Ken-  yeah, pricey...but it looks like it's worth it.  These days I don't pick
up much, so setting aside some extra cash for something good is worthwhile,
to me.


#69 of 228 by anderyn on Sat Aug 30 21:39:52 1997:

Oooh, yeah THIS is the item for that review.... Um, what can I say?
Quite good, really. The album is very nicely balanced between instrumental
tracks (I assume Danny Thompson's work) and vocal tracks (Richard's, for
sure). The liner notes for INDUSTRY are fascinating -- "I think it's im-
pressions of industry and the end of industry... anhe transition between
industrial to post-industrial...that is hopefully reflected on the album."
Richard Thompson. He also states that the song "Saboteur" is a direct
translation of a statement he found in the Karl Marx and Trades Union
Congress libraries.  

The songs -- "Sweetheart on the Barricade" is about a strike and the young
man's sweetheart, who's passionately involved -- I get the feeling that 
the time period is probably early 1920's or so. "Big Chimney" is more of
a rock song, very driving... "Drifting through the Days" and "Lotteryland"
are both riffs on the theme of unemployment and the hopelessness of those
who are displaced by machinery or "progress" -- though one is more of a 
ballad and the other is upbeat in sound, if not in lyrics... The "Saboteur"
song is chilling, since it's in a format that emphasizes the words and 
the ambiguous feelings that the saboteur is experiencing... And "Last
Shift" is about a mine closing.... I can't really describe the instrumentals,
but they are all very atmospheric.

So, Ken, how's that? I really liked this album, a lot more than I thought
I would (I seem to dislike Richard Thompson's "experimental" stuff a whole
lot, and I was afraid that this would be more of the same.)


#70 of 228 by mziemba on Fri Sep 5 08:12:21 1997:

Anyone want to give me a good reason to pick up the McGarrigles _Dancer With
Brusied Knees_?  I've been eyeing it for a while, now...



#71 of 228 by krj on Tue Sep 16 00:45:44 1997:

Twila's review gets an "A".  Your assignment for next week is...  :)
 
-----

Continuing our slow-paced review of the 1997 Philadelphia Folk Festival,
from response #62:

From 11 until 4 on  Saturday and Sunday, the festival presents informal 
"workshop" concerts on three stages around the festival grounds.
The Tank Stage is over by the well faucets, where in earlier days 
the water tanker truck was parked.  The Craft Stage is located where 
the people working in craft booths can hear.  And the Camp Stage
is located near an entrance to the festival campground.

I only got to hear one workshop concert on Saturday, but it was the 
one I was the most eager for.  The theme was "Young People Play Old Songs,"
and there were just two bands, Salamander Crossing 
and Cordelia's Dad.  Salamander Crossing really hooked in the audience,
got a lot of feet tapping on the dusty hillside.
Cordelia's Dad, on the other hand, almost seemed out to antagonize: 
leader Tim Eriksen opened with a long solo acapella ballad which went on 
for six minutes or so, and which sent a handful of people wandering off 
towards the neighboring stages.  It's things like that which make me 
describe Cordelia's Dad as "militant hardcore traditionalists."
 
Cordelia's Dad's drummer Peter Erskine mentioned from the stage that they 
had just finished recording their next album, which is now scheduled for 
a January 1998 release.  Steve Albini (!?!) is producing.

The main stage concert for Saturday afternoon opened with Kate Campbell
and Bill Miller.  Miller is a festival favorite; he does a Native American 
folk-rock thing, and I probably should pay more attention to him sometime.
Saturday's star was Emmylou Harris; mostly she sang material from her 
most recent album, WRECKING BALL, and often it sounded better than the 
album.  She also had a great song about John the Baptist which I need to 
track down.  Not sure what else I can say about Emmylou; she was a 
childhood favorite of mine when she released her first albums, and it's
interesting coming back to her after so many years.  She's got a very 
good band working with her.


#72 of 228 by mcnally on Tue Sep 16 06:22:56 1997:

  Steve Albini?  Arrrggghh..  I was hoping his record production license
  had been revoked or something..


#73 of 228 by raven on Tue Sep 16 22:14:03 1997:

re #72, why?  IMO Albini has produced some of the most influential albums of
the late 80s and 90s, for example PJ Harvey's "Rid of Me," and Nirvana's
"In Utero."  Yes his sound is raw and harsh, however, I sometimes find
that refreshing esp. if I have been in a rut say listening to overly
slick, techo, ambient, or hip hop tunes


#74 of 228 by lumen on Wed Sep 17 05:45:45 1997:

Hrm, but slick is so nice..


#75 of 228 by mcnally on Wed Sep 17 11:57:51 1997:

 re #73:  What can I say?  I just don't like his sound (and haven't since
 his Big Black days..)


#76 of 228 by mziemba on Fri Sep 19 07:32:09 1997:

I've seen Bill Miller, and have his first album.  Stumbled across his in-store
performance at Schoolkids' several years ago, and really enjoyed the album
that I immediately picked up, afterwards.


#77 of 228 by krj on Thu Oct 9 15:44:05 1997:

I'll just pass a few notes to Twila in public:
 
The title of the new Dougie MacLean cd is RIOF.  I have no idea 
what that word means.
 
I also suspect that I never told you about a Dougie CD which came out 
last year called THE PLANT LIFE YEARS.   Plant Life was a UK folk 
label which had some early Dougie work back in the 70s, maybe early
80's.


#78 of 228 by lumen on Fri Oct 10 21:37:47 1997:

Sorry to change the subject-- but I wonder what Seals & Crofts are doing,
besides touring.  I might have seen them at the Gorge at George, WA some time
ago, but I missed my chance.

I became enchanted with the group listening to _Summer Breeze_ (the album,
not just the song) and _From Here Until Sunday._  I acquired their "best of"
collection when I was a college freshman about 5 years ago.  Very refreshing
music, and so interesting to note the Ba'hai references in their songs.


#79 of 228 by anderyn on Sun Oct 12 01:55:22 1997:

When is it coming out? Must have. Must have. (I am a Dougie FREAK!(


#80 of 228 by krj on Sun Oct 12 04:19:07 1997:

Twila, Dougie MacLean's RIOF  album is probably already out in the UK,
it's being advertised in the current FOLK ROOTS with a claim that it's 
available at Virgin Records.  Bug Schoolkids Records; they seem to 
stock Dougie pretty reliably.


#81 of 228 by tpryan on Mon Oct 13 03:02:55 1997:

        <tpryan gets out his Seals and Crofts vinyl for a possible 
listen>
        This includes Seals and Crofts I & II, re-issue of their
TA label ablums, Seals & Crofts" and "Down Home";  The TA(Bell) 
release "Down Home", then the WB albums:  Summer Breeze, Diamond[dale]
Girl, Unborn Child (Quadradic version), Sudan Village, Takin' It
Easy and The Longest Road.


#82 of 228 by krj on Fri Oct 24 19:34:57 1997:

Somebody, in some item in this conference, was interested in sea songs.
While digging in the basement I came across a couple of CDs by people
who specialize in them: Pint and Dale, and Tom Lewis.  Let me give the
Pint & Dale discs a spin and I'll get back to you.  I saw them at the
Philadelphia Folk Festival some oodles ago...


#83 of 228 by anderyn on Sat Oct 25 02:16:12 1997:

I'd be interested in the Tom Lewis. I've toyed wiht buying an album
of his off and on, but haven't quite decided yet...


#84 of 228 by diznave on Sat Oct 25 19:56:33 1997:

Thanks, Ken...I believe that was me. Yeah, tell me how they sound. How many
oodles ago, exactly?

tpryan, I'm not sure of the name of the song, but there's a Seals and Croft
song that has the line, "...we may never pass this way, again...". I just
recently "discovered" this song and am in love with it.


#85 of 228 by krj on Sun Oct 26 16:01:34 1997:

I don't recall how many oodles ago I saw Pint & Dale at the Philadelphia
Folk Festival, but they are still around; they have a new CD out on 
the Waterbug label.   Twila:  There is a $5 copy of Tom Lewis's
SEE DOG, SEA DOG album at Wazoo in EL, I'll go pick it up so we can 
have a listen.


#86 of 228 by diznave on Sun Oct 26 16:27:14 1997:

Cool, Ken...I'll look for it.


#87 of 228 by krj on Sat Nov 8 01:35:04 1997:

---  IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT ---    (woo, I am excited!!)
 
Elderly Instruments has now put their recordings catalog on line!!
 
http://www.elderly.com/recordings/recordings.htm
 
David, take a look at the "sea songs" category.
You could do worse than the various artists compilation on Topic Records, 
BLOW THE MAN DOWN.



#88 of 228 by diznave on Sat Nov 8 08:31:56 1997:

Thanks, Ken!...what a great web page! I'm going to try to check out a few of
these.


#89 of 228 by krj on Sat Nov 8 08:43:34 1997:

I neglected to mention in #87 that Elderly Instruments is America's 
largest discounter of folk music CDs.  Hannibal and Green Linnet labels
priced at $12.50/disc; most other labels between $13.50 and $15.
Elderly probably has the most comprehensive selection of folk CDs 
in the US; the stuff they do not have is generally only distributed 
regionally.


#90 of 228 by goose2 on Sat Nov 8 16:27:32 1997:

I'm going to Elderly's in about a half hour, to go bass shopping not
folk shopping.


#91 of 228 by mziemba on Sat Nov 8 19:40:47 1997:

I'll grab thgat note in my car I scribbled while listening to some guy play
sea tunes.  He's got an album out called _Voices Across the Water_...


#92 of 228 by krj on Sun Nov 23 07:54:17 1997:

NP: "Classic Anne Briggs," a compilation of material recorded by the 
British revival singer between 1963 and 1971.  Briggs usually sang 
unaccompanied, or with a very spare guitar/bouzouki accompaniment,
and a lot of the 70's electric folk singers took a bit from her, 
in both material and in style.  Maddy Prior on Anne Briggs:
"Before her there was a twee style of women singing English
folk songs and she brought balls to it really.  I think it changed
the way that English women folk singers sang."  (From the liner
notes, of course.)


#93 of 228 by tpryan on Sun Nov 23 16:16:25 1997:

        Sigh, I haven't been in music.cf since Oct 12th. Yes, Dave
the Seals and Crofts song you seek is "We May Never Pass This Way
(Again)"  on their greatest hits CD  and their "Diamond[dale] Girl"
album, that I haven't seen in CD format.


#94 of 228 by mziemba on Mon Dec 22 07:50:48 1997:

I have now heard 1/6 of the Smithsonian/Folkways reissue of Harry Smith's
_Anthology of American Folk Music_.  I have to play it again, in fact, because
I was so absorbed by the liner notes!


#95 of 228 by eeyore on Wed Dec 31 09:05:26 1997:

Well, I fiannaly managed to wander my way into here...:)

I'm a HUGE fan of Dar Williams, and have managed to get as many people as
possible hooked onto here. :)  I also went to her concert in sept at the Ark,
and loved every minute of it.  There was a guy opening for her by the name
of Richard Shindell that was really really really good.  (I'm actually
listening to his "Great Divide" cd right now!!)  One of the songs that he and
Dar did at the concert is called "The Ballad of Mary Magdelan", sung from
Mary's point of view...It's a wonderful son, and at the concert, Dar actually
sang it with Richard doing the backups on it...it was WONDERFUL!!!!!!  I
actually got the cd that night.  :)  I can highly reccomend it.  :)

My other major favorite folk group is actually not touring anymore. (or if
they are, they shouldn't be!)  I grew up listenig to Kingston Trio, due to
the fact that my dad has all of their RECORDS.  :)  Talk about massively
wonderful.  :)


#96 of 228 by anderyn on Wed Dec 31 21:52:28 1997:

Grin. I saw Dar at a free show at the Ark about three years ago? I loved 
her live, but I'm less than impressed with her recordings. Just because they
don't sound qute as good as her there.


#97 of 228 by mziemba on Thu Jan 1 18:58:43 1998:

Hi, Megan!
 
You might like the Weavers, too, if you haven't already heard some from your
dad.  They are probably best remembered for their adaptation of "Wimoweh".


#98 of 228 by krj on Fri Jan 2 05:58:14 1998:

#94: rats, my strategy did not work, and I did not get the Harry Smith 
Box for a Christmas present.  :/    It was on sale at the Tower Records
in Annapolis; I'll have to see if there is a similar discount here.
 
The Weavers are incredibly significant because they mark the 
creation of folk music as commercial product;  I've always had a sneaking
feeling that Pete Seeger regrets that, just a bit.  
Their influence was blotted out in the anti-communist hysteria of the 
1950's, they were blacklisted and their career effectively ended.
 
Unfortunately the Weavers' commercial recordings were done in the 
pop style of the day, which now sounds pretty dated...


#99 of 228 by mziemba on Fri Jan 2 14:06:40 1998:

What doesn't sound dated, from 40 years ago?
 
In any event, apparently they were appreciated enough to reach Carnegie Hall
twice, once for a reunion concert.


#100 of 228 by krj on Fri Mar 13 05:30:48 1998:

I dug into a long-unopened box sent to me by a trading pal and 
fished out PINGHA FRENZY, the live album from the latter days of 
Blowzabella.  Blowzabella was an English dance band from the 1980s
who specialized in the music of continental Europe.  They were anchored
by hurdy gurdy player Nigel Eaton, and the other lead instruments were 
usually fiddle and cittern, with the occasional saxophone.  
This feeds into one of my minor interests, which is continental 
European instrumental folk music, usually French or Breton.
 
I used to joke that the hurdy gurdy was the medieval version of the 
synthesizer, mostly because it produces a continuous tone -- no 
strumming, bowing or breathing.


#101 of 228 by lumen on Tue Mar 17 22:48:01 1998:

Um, I don't know what a hurdy gurdy is.  Care to enlighten me?


#102 of 228 by mcnally on Tue Mar 17 23:32:57 1998:

  I think instead of strumming, bowing, or breathing, you turn a
  crank..


#103 of 228 by scott on Wed Mar 18 00:03:21 1998:

...which rubs a string with its edge, continuously making sound.  A set of
levers are used to clamp the string down at various points, changing pitch.


#104 of 228 by orinoco on Wed Mar 18 02:08:14 1998:

...and those levers are attatched (sometimes) to a piano-type keyboard,
meaning all you have to do is crank and push buttons - none of this pesky
bowing business.


#105 of 228 by mcnally on Wed Mar 18 07:15:42 1998:

  and if you have everything set up right, the ball drops on the ramp,
  causing the little plastic figurine of a man to jump into the bathtub,
  which vibrates the pole on which the cage is suspended, and the cage
  falls down and captures the mouse.  oh, wait..  sorry, wrong contraption.


#106 of 228 by scott on Wed Mar 18 12:00:02 1998:

Yeah, and you missed a few steps too.


#107 of 228 by mcnally on Wed Mar 18 19:53:47 1998:

  Did I?  I was just going for the last couple of steps, not everything
  that occurs from the time you turn the crank. 

  "Roll the dice, move your mice.."   Carry on..


#108 of 228 by lumen on Wed Mar 18 23:06:49 1998:

Oh yes-- it produces a droning sound, doesn't it?  If it's what I think it
is, I remember an exchange student playing one he made himself in h.s.


#109 of 228 by orinoco on Thu Mar 19 03:08:06 1998:

I think it does have a few strings besides the melody string, for some sort
of drone effect.  Wow...that's neeeat.


#110 of 228 by mziemba on Wed Mar 25 18:11:41 1998:

Speaking of curiosity about instruments, there's quite a wonderful encylopedia
put out by Facts on File called _Musical Instruments_, published in 1976. 
It's a large trade paperback that runs about $20.


#111 of 228 by krj on Mon Mar 30 19:01:31 1998:

re my previous response 100: Blowzabella, the English dance band 
dominated by hurdy-gurdys, refuses to go away.  NP: "The Duellists,"
a disc I picked up in Philadelphia over Christmas.  It's not an 
official Blowzabella disc, but it features Cliff Stapleton and Nigel
Eaton on hurdies -- both longtime Blowzabella players -- and another 
Blowzabella player, Ian Luff, on bass and cittern.  This is mostly 
faux European courtly dance music -- faux because it's all credited 
as contemporary compositions.


#112 of 228 by mcnally on Wed May 6 03:54:16 1998:

  Lately I've been enjoying the album "Pink Moon" by Nick Drake..
  I've entered this in the folk item because that's where his albums
  usually get filed and because he seems to be better known among folk
  fans (perhaps for his association with members of the 60s British
  folk scene) though I'm not sure I myself would classify him as a 
  folk musician..

  Anyways, I'm looking for recommendations from anyone familiar with
  the body of his work -- I like the fairly sparse, unadorned vocal
  and guitar sound that prevails on "Pink Moon" but have heard work
  from at least one other album where the instrumentation was much
  different, and frankly intolerably cheesey -- brief encounters with
  that stuff prevented for several years my buying any of his albums.
  Recommendations for stuff that sounds most like "Pink Moon" would
  be appreciated.



#113 of 228 by krj on Thu May 7 04:06:21 1998:

I'm not real familiar with Drake's work, but I have often heard 
that PINK MOON was the class of the set.  He only released four 
albums while he was alive, I think, plus two posthumous collections.


#114 of 228 by katie on Thu May 7 04:52:56 1998:

ichard Shindell at the \ark June something. He appeared with Joan Baez at
the Michigan Theatre last month. HIs songwriting is tremendous and his
voice is amazing.


#115 of 228 by mziemba on Sat May 16 12:45:34 1998:

Catie Curtis will be at the Ark tonight, Saturday May 16, for two shows:  one
at 7:30P and one at 10P.  Worth checking her out...


#116 of 228 by eeyore on Mon May 18 03:07:53 1998:

Richard Shindell and Dar Williams were supposedly in the studio putting
together an album together....:)  I'm REALLY looking forward to hearing it
after listening to them together live!


#117 of 228 by anderyn on Mon May 18 23:30:44 1998:

I'm kinda bummed that only 24 people showed up at the Artisan show at the
Ark last night. They are a truly gorgeous three-person a capella group
from Yorkshire, and they gave a kick-ass show. I was glad I was there.

Upcoming Ark shows for me: Moxie Fruvous, Capercaille, Frances Black.


#118 of 228 by mziemba on Tue May 19 03:42:34 1998:

Oh, when's Moxy Fruevous going to be there?


#119 of 228 by anderyn on Thu May 21 02:31:57 1998:

June 10. What do you think of them? I don't know much about them!


#120 of 228 by mziemba on Fri May 22 02:14:48 1998:

Twila-  I've only heard a few songs off one album...and I guess I'd describe
them as alternative "babershop quartet".  Thanks for mentioning the show date!


#121 of 228 by jiffer on Sun May 24 17:30:50 1998:

I *WILL* be at the Moxy Fruevous show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  *screams of excitement*


#122 of 228 by krj on Wed Jun 3 03:52:01 1998:

twila/#117: only 24 in the audience for Artisan?  Darn.  Leslie and I 
would have made it 26, but we had a previous, um, engagement; we've
veen fans of Artisan for some time.  Reminds me of the English singer
Peter Bellamy, who rarely drew more than 20 people for his Michigan
concerts.
 
Item from the Progressive Torch & Twang radio show: there is going 
to be a touring "Newport Folk Festival" concert package this summer, 
and it might have a stop at Pine Knob.  (For out of towners: 
Pine Knob is a music amphitheatre in southeastern Michigan.)


#123 of 228 by katie on Wed Jun 3 04:03:29 1998:

It's been on the Pine Knob schedule for months.


#124 of 228 by mziemba on Thu Jun 4 23:11:43 1998:

So, Ken, are you going to see Richard Thompson?  As a bonus, you'll also get
to see Bruce Cockburn and Dar Williams, two favorites of mine...
 
I think they're all playing the Royal Oak Music Theater this month sometime
soon...


#125 of 228 by mcnally on Fri Jun 5 02:32:33 1998:

  Hmmm..  I thought Thompson put on a really good show last time I saw
  him (a year or two ago at the Michigan Theater) but I'd pay money *not*
  to see Cockburn.  For some reason he just *really* annoys me.  Probably
  not his fault, I guess, but it's hard for me to enjoy anything involving
  him..


#126 of 228 by krj on Fri Jun 5 07:08:36 1998:

I'd heard about this tour, but not about a Detroit-area stop.  
I'm somewhat doubtful that I'll go, alas, just because I'm being a lump.
I don't share Mike's antipathy towards Bruce Cockburn, but I also feel 
that Cockburn and Dar Williams would just be taking away stage time 
from Thompson.  


#127 of 228 by mziemba on Sat Jun 6 04:59:18 1998:

Picky, picky, picky...


#128 of 228 by mziemba on Thu Jun 11 00:22:28 1998:

Billy Bragg, who I've long considered the British "Woody Guthrie", is
about to release _Mermaid Avenue_, an album of updated, previously
unrecorded Guthrie tunes with Jeff Tweedy of Wilco, featuring some
stunning guests that will include Eliza Carthy and Natalie Merchant.  
We owe some thanks to Guthrie's daughter, Nora, for the wise choice.
Looking forward to it!




#129 of 228 by mcnally on Thu Jun 11 03:24:27 1998:

  hmmm..  that could be interesting..  


#130 of 228 by mziemba on Fri Jun 12 00:13:06 1998:

Bragg and Wilco are supposed to be touring together this summer, too.  That
would be a very cool show...


#131 of 228 by eeyore on Tue Jun 16 04:14:36 1998:

For those that are interested, Dar Williams and Richard Shindell put togethr
an album together, with a bunch of other people....I'll let you know more as
I find out more...it was recorded in April, but not out yet.


#132 of 228 by krj on Wed Jun 17 06:36:24 1998:

British folksinger Martin Carthy was awarded an MBE in the Queen's
birthday honors list, for services to folk music.
 
(MBE = Member of the Order of the British Empire, which I think 
 is about as low an honor as the Queen gives out.)
 
Carthy's resume includes:  a fairly influential folk guitar style;
a duo act with fiddler Dave Swarbrick; two tours of duty with the 
electric folk band Steeleye Span; marrying into the great English
acapella singing family, the Watersons; a folk brass band, Brass Monkey;
a trio act with his wife Norma and their daughter Eliza, under the name
Waterson:Carthy.   Almost everything he's recorded in his 35+ year
career has been kept in print or reissued.


#133 of 228 by orinoco on Wed Jun 17 12:33:03 1998:

(Is the MBE the same honor as was given the Beatles, or did they get something
higher?)


#134 of 228 by bruin on Wed Jun 17 14:39:47 1998:

RE #133 The Beatles received MBE honors in 1965 or 1966, and a number of 
recipients turned in their honors in protest.  John Lennon returned his 
MBE in objection to British support of the Vietnam and Biafran wars.

I believe that the MBE is the highest honor in Britain short of 
knighthood.


#135 of 228 by krj on Wed Jun 17 19:07:09 1998:

An OBE (Officer of the Order of the British Empire) appears to be 
higher.  Fantasy author Terry Pratchett received an OBE, which is why
folks I know were discussing this.


#136 of 228 by mziemba on Wed Jun 17 23:58:06 1998:

Well, pleased to see hear Martin's being recognized, officially.  Well done!


#137 of 228 by mziemba on Thu Jun 18 00:00:19 1998:

Now, if only Waterson:  Carthy would drop by the Ark sometime soon, I'd be
even happier!


#138 of 228 by krj on Fri Jun 19 16:16:57 1998:

Right now I imagine Eliza Carthy is busy touring to promote the RED RICE 
album, so I don't expect to see Waterson:Carthy here this summer.
(This is just a ploy to get me to talk about RED RICE, isn't it?  :)  )


#139 of 228 by anderyn on Fri Jun 19 20:50:42 1998:

Well, let's see. I was supposed to talk about Capercaille here. It was
a good show, as these things go, although there was a synthesizer up
there on stage, along with two drum sets. That kind of takes the folk
out of folk music, but it was pretty darn exciting during the instrumental
sets -- the fiddler and the Northumbrian small pipes were especially 
noticeable. I wasn't as happy with the arrangements on most of the songs
because it seemed much too pop-oriented. Too smooth, almost, like
elevator music, although I don't think most of the audience cared. I did
enjoy it but not as much as I had thought I would.


#140 of 228 by mziemba on Sat Jun 20 16:03:18 1998:

That's pretty much why I was more in favor of seeing Frances Black, although
she hasn't exactly been stuck on traditional styles, either.


#141 of 228 by mziemba on Sat Jun 20 16:05:46 1998:

So I was eating this rice the other day...it was red...


#142 of 228 by krj on Sat Jun 20 18:09:53 1998:

There is a longish biography article on Sandy Denny, and by extension
on the Fairport Convention circle, in the June issue of Mojo magazine, 
from the UK.  $8; I held off for a while due to sticker shock, but 
it will be well worth it for fans.  More after I absorb it for a bit.
 
(There's also a brief interview with Eliza Carthy.)


#143 of 228 by mziemba on Sun Jun 21 02:46:45 1998:

I enjoyed the Norma Waterson album a few years back, where she covered a few
songs, including one by Billy Bragg, I think.


#144 of 228 by mziemba on Wed Jun 24 00:24:59 1998:

Wow, close brush with death.  I nearly lost my Simon and Garfunkle album, my
Weavers album, *and* my Cat Stevens album, all in one fell swoop.  *Whew*


#145 of 228 by jiffer on Wed Jun 24 17:05:43 1998:

dd they try to kill you or wwere you and the albums in danger of death?


#146 of 228 by krj on Wed Jun 24 19:59:08 1998:

(I put an open diet pepsi into a bag of CDs, duh.
What did mziemba do?)



#147 of 228 by raven on Thu Jun 25 21:09:16 1998:

Is anyone here interested in disonant acoustic and or punk or world music
influenced folk/bluegrass? Some people that jump to mind are the
Horseflies, Tony Triscka, Bela Fleck (when he isn't doing smooth jazz
banjo), the Violent Femmes, Kristen Hersh, Camper Van Beethoven (yes I
know pretty electric), Ani DiFranco's CD with Utah Philllips, etc.
It's interesting because much tradtional folk music that features someone
just strumming on a guitar (ala early Joan Baez) is some of my least
favorite music, while some experimental folk is some of my most favorite
music.


#148 of 228 by krj on Fri Jun 26 06:05:50 1998:

I dunno, write some things and see what happens.  I have actually seen 
and chatted with the Horseflies, nearly a decade ago at the Philadelphia
Folk Festival; there are some Trishka CDs around here (thumbs up)
and at least one Fleck CD (thumbs down).  
 
On the other hand, it's hard for me to think of the Violent Femmes
or Camper van Beethoven in the folk pigeonhole, and Kristen Hersh
seems like one of those singer-songwriters who just strums on a 
guitar...
 
I'm still curious to see what Steve Albini did with the new 
Cordelia's Dad album.  (The CD is riding around in my car waiting 
for me to have some free time for it.)


#149 of 228 by raven on Sat Jun 27 02:41:07 1998:

Wow Steve Albini produced an acoustic album.  Please review that as soon
as you listen to it...


#150 of 228 by anderyn on Sat Jun 27 23:44:47 1998:

Well, *I* like it! Um. It's called _Spine_ and it's very aggresively
acoustic, very aggresively American folk, and it's just fantastic. I 
was a little disappointed that they decided to go for a few more 
instrumentals than has been the case on previous albums, and that they
didn't do any ballads, but they did do some very amazing shape-note
hymns, and two exceedingly bawdy songs, that have to be heard to be
believed. If you don't like your voices rather sharp-edged, then you
won't like Cordelia's Dad, though. 


#151 of 228 by raven on Sun Jun 28 17:56:18 1998:

I'm listening to Spine, now.  I suspect after several listenings I will
like it, but I'm suprised how tradational folk it is considering
everything else Albini has produced.  I like the tracks with intensive
fiddling and/or vocal harmonies.  I like the almost troubador quality to
some of the (perhaps they are modal tunings?) songs, some of it however
has a flat dragged out quality to my ears.


#152 of 228 by krj on Mon Jun 29 16:31:14 1998:

(way back in  resp:1  &  resp:2  of this item I wrote a quickie 
history of Cordelia's Dad.)


#153 of 228 by raven on Mon Jun 29 18:20:30 1998:

Actually the CD *is* growing on me.  I guess I'm figuring out a new way of
listening kind of like when I first got Bartok (only different in this
case).  There is a sublime simplicity to this album that at first sounded
kind of like leaden celtic to me.  The vocal harmonies are amazing and
the song  "Granite Mills" about 300 people dieing in a mill fire is chilling.
Their web site http://world.std.com/~steeple/cordelia.html is worth
checking out as well for some interesting liner notes with a lot of music
history.


#154 of 228 by krj on Fri Jul 3 06:21:18 1998:

Since we were discussing Martin Carthy up a few responses....  a disc
in heavy rotation this week has been the Albion Country Band/BATTLE OF 
THE FIELD.  This is an early 1970s recording which just got reissued
on CD last year, and when I was playing the old vinyl 20+ years ago 
I did not register how much Carthy sings on it; he's the lead voice
on almost every track.  This is at least as good as Carthy's 
Steeleye Span albums as an electric folk work.  The rest of the band
is Simon Nicol, from a period when his guitar work was most influenced
by his association with Richard Thompson; accordion player John Kirkpatrick,
who would go on to become a key part of the Thompson ensemble; leader
Ashley Hutchings, who was starting his third electric folk band;
and rounded out with Sue Harris (on oboe!) and a drummer who is 
either Dave Mattacks or Gerry Conway -- damn, I can't recall without 
fishing out the jacket.  So fans of Steeleye, Fairport, Carthy,
and Richard Thompson's folkier side really need to get acquainted 
with this album.
 
I've played through half of the new Cordelia's Dad disc and it is 
excellent, probably tying HOW CAN I SLEEP as their best album.
And the traditional half of the Maddy Prior disc is exceptional, too, 
at least as good as Steeleye Span's TIME album and probably better.
Prior is at the Ark on Tuesday, July 7.


#155 of 228 by mziemba on Fri Jul 3 12:17:20 1998:

Cool, thanks for more details on Martin Carthy...


#156 of 228 by krj on Tue Jul 14 14:57:59 1998:

I have an unconfirmed report that the next Gillian Welch CD is due out
July 28.  The Schoolkids staff person I talked with could not confirm
the date, but she did say that the Welch cd was definitely on the way.


#157 of 228 by mziemba on Tue Jul 14 20:23:05 1998:

Cool.  I'll spin the last one while I wait...



#158 of 228 by katie on Wed Jul 15 01:55:26 1998:

She`s on the Horse Whisperer soundtrack, too, along with many other woderful
artists. Also, she`s in Hope Floats.


#159 of 228 by happyboy on Wed Jul 15 02:01:05 1998:

whoa...the horseflies are one of my fave
bands...i think i own every release of
theirs including a side they did with the
chicken chokers...


#160 of 228 by raven on Wed Jul 15 03:15:56 1998:

Is there more than just Human Fly & the other one that I have only seen called
something like Gravity Dance?  I know some members of the Horseflie played with
Tony Triscka in a band called farm report.


#161 of 228 by happyboy on Wed Jul 15 19:38:57 1998:

let's see...
"where rivers flow north," which is a movie soundtrack (awesome
 movie by the way!)
Human Fly
Gravity Dance
Old Time Music with the Chicken Chokers...really fun trad appalachian stuff,
especially their rendition of Benton's Dream 

their fiddle player is Dick Hyman's daughter Judy Hyman btw.


#162 of 228 by krj on Sat Apr 17 19:35:13 1999:

Time to kick this long dormant item...  One incentive to get up for the 
Saturday morning Grexwalks is that I get to listen to some of the 
Folk Show on WCBN, which runs from 10 am to 1 pm Saturdays, and is followed
by a country music show.  Today on the drive to the Grexwalk I heard 
some fine bluegrass from Del McCoury; on the drive from the walk to lunch
there was a good Wolfstone instrumental set which I probably own
but had completely forgotten about.  Driving home after downtown we 
were into the country show, and I (finally!) got to hear some Stompin'
Tom Connors.  The show played two Stompin' Tom songs: one about streaking
in honor of the upcoming Ann Arbor event, and the other about a woman
who wanted her husband, the narrator, to pawn his guitar to buy her stuff.


#163 of 228 by krj on Mon Apr 19 15:39:47 1999:

Well, here's a disappointing news report from Usenet.
There's a report that Bok Muir & Trickett say their current tour will be 
their final one.


#164 of 228 by krj on Wed Apr 21 02:45:58 1999:

Kate and Anna McGarrigle did a gorgeous concert at the Ark tonight.
Alone they have such odd quavery voices, but when they sing together the 
harmonies are glorious.   I'd hoped that their children would be along 
for the tour, as the promotional material had suggested, but Kate & Anna 
said their offspring were singing on the West Coast.  Backing them up 
were a fiddler and an electric bass player, and Kate and Anna swapped 
around on melodeon, banjo, guitar and piano.  They played some old classics
 -- "Heart Like A Wheel," "Talk to Me of Mendocino," "Complainte pour Ste.
Catherine" -- and the new ones, "Matapedia" and "Going Back to Harlan."
 
Gosh.  Such gem-like songs.  Such a sweet evening.  Kate is struggling with 
reading glasses, and they both have grey hair.  We're all getting old 
together.


#165 of 228 by mcnally on Wed Apr 21 05:14:22 1999:

  Darn.  I would've gone to see that, had I known they were performing
  locally.


#166 of 228 by krj on Wed Apr 21 15:09:59 1999:

OK, I kick myself for not mentioning it ahead of time.  I meant to, just 
never got around to it, *sigh*


#167 of 228 by gnat on Fri Jun 18 22:45:11 1999:

I guess this is the right place to post this... I'm doing a radio show
devoted to the music of Nick Drake on Sunday, June 20, from 6am-9am.
(Drake's birthday is on the 19th, so the show is in honor of that.)
For those who don't know about Drake, he was an excessively talented
British singer-songwriter who unfortunately died at the age of 26 in
1974.  He was a brilliant guitarist and worked with such luminaries
as Richard Thompson and John Cale from the Velvet Underground.

If you want to know more, you can listen to my show at 88.3, WCBN
Ann Arbor, or tune in via RealAudio at www.wcbn.org.


#168 of 228 by mcnally on Sun Jun 20 04:06:34 1999:

  Hmmm..  I'll have to try tuning that in if I remember..
  I really like "Pink Moon" but wasn't crazy about "Bryter Later"


#169 of 228 by gnat on Sun Jun 20 22:32:13 1999:

There's some great songs on "Bryter Layter" (e.g. the John Cale
collaborations) but it's a little patchy.  Try "Five Leaves Left"
instead.



#170 of 228 by dbratman on Thu Jun 24 22:43:34 1999:

I wish I were geographically placed to hear your Nick Drake show.
I've only heard his work a couple times, and it didn't really do
anything for me - I strongly suspect I was missing something, or
just wasn't in the right mood.


#171 of 228 by gnat on Fri Jun 25 04:12:35 1999:

Yeah, it is sort of music you have to be in the mood for.  Very
low-key, melancholy, gentle sort of music - and very British.
Sometimes a little too precious for its own good.  There's a good
compilation called "Way To Blue" which is worth picking up, if
you want a sampling.

You could have listened to the show on the WCBN website... :)


#172 of 228 by dbratman on Fri Jul 2 21:48:42 1999:

Natalie - I'll take a note of that Nick Drake compilation.
Alas, listening to web broadcasts is _way_ too technologically
advanced for me.


#173 of 228 by krj on Fri Aug 6 08:10:53 1999:

Something called The National Folk Festival is landing in East Lansing,
Michigan, Friday August 13-Sunday August 15.  It's all free, says 
the postcard!  Concerts are in the afternoons and evenings at two 
outdoor locations in East Lansing, Valley Court Park and the 
Albert Avenue parking lot.  
 
Names I recognize include Cephas and Wiggins, Natalie MacMaster, 
Bill Kirchen (who was just in Ann Arbor for Top of the Park),
Marcia Ball, bluegrass singer Lynn Morris and Irish fiddler 
Eileen Ivers.
 
For details, see their website at www.nff.net.   The Elderly Instruments
web site at www.elderly.com also has some information.
 
Unfortunately this festival is the same weekend Leslie gets back
from her extended stay in Austria, so I'll probably just make it
to Natalie MacMaster's Friday night performance.


#174 of 228 by krj on Mon Aug 7 18:50:01 2000:

Wow, it's been a year since this item had any activity.
Once again it's time to give a little plug to the National Folk Festival
in East Lansing, Friday August 11 - Sunday August 13.  Their web site
is at http://www.nff.net.  Performers I'm interested in include 
New Orleans jazz piano wizard Henry Butler, cajuns Beausoleil, and the 
Irish-American band Solas.  

I can see Henry Butler and Beausoleil if I stay in East Lansing 
after work Friday, so I might just do that and skip driving up on 
Saturday or Sunday, unless Twila wants to twist my arm really hard.


#175 of 228 by tpryan on Mon Aug 7 22:04:43 2000:

        Sight don't look good under lynx.


#176 of 228 by anderyn on Mon Aug 7 23:46:14 2000:

Want to do Solas! Want to go! Arm-twist! Arm twist!


#177 of 228 by krj on Tue Aug 8 19:24:57 2000:

Two hours of driving for a one hour Solas concert?  Besides, weren't
they just at Frog Island?


#178 of 228 by anderyn on Wed Aug 9 14:58:43 2000:

There's two on Sunday, yes there are. (Solas concerts, that is.)


#179 of 228 by krj on Wed Aug 9 17:18:10 2000:

Heh, I figured you'd pick up on both Solas sets.
 
Between the two Solas sets, the stuff that appeals to me the most would be 
the Swedish-American fiddlers at 2:30 and the Harmonia Eastern Europeans
at 3:30.  Or we could just wander aimlessly among the five stages for 
a few hours.  Decisions, decisions.
You'll have to let me know how much wandering you are up for.


#180 of 228 by krj on Sat Aug 12 03:15:35 2000:

I made it to some of the Friday night events at the National 
Folk Festival.  Henry Butler's New Orleans jazz/blues piano was 
very nice; I did not know that he holds a Master's degree from
Michigan State!  I was sort of cranky during the Beausoleil set:
it may just have been that I was geting tired of either standing or 
sitting on the ground when everyone else at the 
Valley Court Stage had lawn chairs.   So about halfway through 
the Beausoleil set I wandered over to the "Masters of the Steel
String Guitar" concert and that put me in a much better mood.
I especially liked Eddie Pennington's thumbpicking style.

A bluegrass band who I'm fond of, Appalachian Trail, is also here
for the weekend.  Their singer, Linda Barker Lay, sang a few songs
with the guitarists.

So I may drive up again both Saturday and Sunday, if I feel 
sufficiently motivated.

News Item from the Elderly Instruments tent:  British singer Kate Rusby
is on the Ten Pound Fiddle schedule for mid-November.


#181 of 228 by eeyore on Fri Aug 18 05:24:58 2000:

We saw Solas at Frog Island, and are hoping to get tickets for their show at
the Ark in October....but I don't know when the tix go on sale.  But I
*REFUSE* to miss that show.

I also have 8th row tix for Great Big Sea in October, and I was hoping to make
the Dar concert, but alas, I'm going to be leaving *that night* for Maine.
(My parents won't wait until after the show.  :(


#182 of 228 by anderyn on Fri Aug 18 17:20:22 2000:

Usually about a month before the concert. (Twila is definitely going to the
ARk to see Solas.)


#183 of 228 by micklpkl on Mon Aug 21 02:51:22 2000:

Found a notice that Dougie MacLean had made available five live songs from
a concert on Friday 18 August at this URL:
http://www.albamp3.com/dougieconcert.html
In order to get a username/password, a 4.00 UKP fee is required, allegedly
obtainable from Dunkeld Media's new online store. Alas, I paid for two such
downloads ('cuase I figured Twila'd need 'em, too) but haven't received any
sort of user name yet. Though I did get an e-mail confirmation this time,
which is more than I received from my last order.


#184 of 228 by eeyore on Thu Aug 24 19:06:19 2000:

Okey....before I try to post a review, is there anybody here who is actually
a Dar fan?  If there isn't there's no point in me trying to do a review, since
I don't know that I can do anything but compare it to other stuff of hers.


#185 of 228 by anderyn on Thu Aug 24 19:43:07 2000:

I am a Dar fan.


#186 of 228 by micklpkl on Thu Aug 24 21:27:44 2000:

Oh, yes ... please do! I like Dar, too.


#187 of 228 by other on Sun Aug 27 02:25:07 2000:

nice dar williams article in today's NYTimes.


#188 of 228 by eeyore on Sun Aug 27 03:12:09 2000:

What did it say? (For those of us who don't read the NYTimes)


#189 of 228 by mcnally on Sun Aug 27 03:30:20 2000:

  You can read the New York Times on-line if you want..


#190 of 228 by krj on Sun Aug 27 23:33:02 2000:

Only the current day's articles, unless you pay money, alas.


#191 of 228 by anderyn on Mon Aug 28 00:34:34 2000:

Not always. Depends on where it's at. Sometimes you can read old 
stuff.


#192 of 228 by mcnally on Tue Oct 10 23:39:23 2000:

  I've got a question for all of you Fairport Fanatics..

  On "Little Honda", an EP of covers from a couple of years back, 
  Yo La Tengo do a very pleasant cover of a song called "By the 
  Time It Gets Dark"

  I've never heard the original and it's just credited to "(Denny)"
  Would that be Sandy Denny?  Yo La Tengo have covered Richard
  Thompson tunes in the past so I presume they're probably familiar
  with Sandy Denny and her work, but it could just as likely be someone
  from an obscure band I've never heard of -- they love to do covers
  of their favorite obscure songs.

  If it is a Sandy Denny song, what's the original like?  Can anyone
  who's heard both compare them?


#193 of 228 by krj on Thu Oct 12 05:18:41 2000:

I don't remember the song, but the Google search reveals that Sandy 
Denny's recording is a demo which only appeared on the now-out-of-print
3-cd set "Who Knows Where The Time Goes?"  And right now I don't know
where my copy of this is.  


#194 of 228 by mcnally on Thu Oct 12 21:49:20 2000:

  That would make it exactly the sort of thing that YLT particularly enjoy
  covering -- an obscurity from a performer with a cult following..


#195 of 228 by krj on Wed Oct 18 21:12:43 2000:

This is for Happyboy.  The Horseflies have a new album out, a live 
recording from a festival called "In The Dance Tent."  No idea who would
be carrying it locally; I saw it listed on Elderly's web page.
I'll pick up my copy next time I'm out that way.


#196 of 228 by micklpkl on Wed Oct 18 21:28:20 2000:

I like The Horseflies, too. I picked up "human fly" and the sndtrack to "Where
the Rivers Flow North" last year, replacing the old cassettes. I'll keep my
eyes peeled for this new, live, disc.


#197 of 228 by mcnally on Thu Oct 19 00:31:32 2000:

  Came across a new "Walkabouts" album on some obscure import label;
  it's apparently an album of cover songs.  Any idea about its quality,
  Ken, or have you stopped following the Walkabouts?


#198 of 228 by krj on Thu Oct 19 01:14:20 2000:

"Satisfied Mind" was a Walkabouts cover album from the early to mid-90s;
is there another one?  In general I have abandoned them; little they
have recorded since 1991 -- I've heard most of it -- has been worthwhile.
Their songwriting brilliance just burned out too fast.


#199 of 228 by mcnally on Thu Oct 19 02:24:55 2000:

  Yes, from what I can recall..  I checked www.allmusic.com and the track
  list from "Satisfied Mind" wasn't the one I remember from the music store
  last night.  According to AMG they had an earlier recording released this
  year on Glitterhouse, and that was the label name I remember.  I suspect
  this one probably postdates that by a bit.

  According to AMG they're really big in Germany, but then so (supposedly)
  is David Hasselhoff..


#200 of 228 by krj on Thu Oct 19 03:34:37 2000:

I should warn everyone else that the Walkabouts have only the most tangential
relationship to folk music.
 
The new album is described in detail on the unofficial web site at 
http://www.thewalkabouts.com  and it's covers of European songs.  
Hmm, could be interesting.  I still like listening to Carla Torgeson's
singing.  I also see the band has a new drummer.  Their previous drummer, 
Terry somebody, I didn't like.
 
Yeah, their career moved entirely to Europe after about 1992.


#201 of 228 by tpryan on Thu Oct 19 22:38:26 2000:

        Egads!  It's been five years since I was to Elderly Instruments.


#202 of 228 by happyboy on Fri Oct 20 10:46:59 2000:

cool ken, i'll be up elderly way to do
a *trade-up* on one of my instruments
next month...i'll check the new "Flies
thing then.

i wonder if it's all oldtimey stuff?


#203 of 228 by krj on Wed Nov 15 05:10:15 2000:

The "Progressive Torch and Twang" show on the MSU student radio station
was playing most of the soundtrack for Joel & Ethan Coen's new film,
"O Brother, Where Art Thou?"  The soundtrack is produced by T Bone Burnett
and it includes new recordings of old-time and country songs by 
Alison Kraus, Gillian Welch, John Hartford and Ralph Stanley.
The host said that the movie is set in the 1930s and the music is 
an integral part of the story.   

"Folk Roots" magazine also had a rave review of the soundtrack CD.
The movie doesn't open until December 22.


#204 of 228 by tpryan on Wed Nov 15 17:07:57 2000:

        'a thistle & shamrock christmas ceilidh' appears to be a new to 
2000 Christmas CD.  While I got it this last weekend, I may wait till
past Xgiving to give it a listen.


#205 of 228 by anderyn on Wed Nov 15 19:51:18 2000:

Hadn't seen that one, tpryan. May have to check it out (Twila hates most
Christmas CDs, so this might be just the ticket...)


#206 of 228 by eeyore on Thu Nov 16 05:16:14 2000:

Let us know how it is...most of the Celtic Christmas stuff I've not been at
all impressed with.


#207 of 228 by tpryan on Thu Nov 16 17:17:02 2000:

        I did listen to it last night.  Variety of artists.  Competent
playing.  Last track being a 'live' concert track did throw me off as
a listener.  I trusted Fiona Richie to made good selections, and I would
say I got good selections.


#208 of 228 by tpryan on Mon Jan 8 02:06:05 2001:

        I picked up the Sing Out! 50th anniversary issue today.  This 
is one that Matt Watroba talked about on his "Folks Like Us" show
this past Saturday on WDET.  A collection of songs from each year
that they have been publishing.  Even if you don't intend to sing 
the songs, the commentary on the half century of folk music has to
be worth it.
        Borders downtown should have more later this week.


#209 of 228 by anderyn on Mon Jan 8 12:24:30 2001:

I got one at the Arborland Borders on Saturday. Read it through. What was
really neat for me was reading the excerpts from various articles that talked
about the controversies in folk music in the 60s.... wow. Of course, I was
also a tad freaked out about *wry smile* the fact that it had been founded
in 1950, and was thus 50 years old. I just don't think of then as that far
away!


#210 of 228 by krj on Fri Jan 19 22:56:20 2001:

News item:  Mimi Farina (of 60s duo Richard & Mimi Farina) has cancer; 
her sister Joan Baez has cancelled her winter tour, including the
scheduled appearance at the Ann Arbor Folk Festival.
(Baez' web page is at:  http://baez.woz.org)
 
Eliza Carthy is on the cover of the February issue of Tower's PULSE
magazine.  It's a decent interview.  Her new album, ANGELS AND CIGARETTES,
is due for US release.  I'm still uncertain if I want a copy.
The other featured interview is with Dolly Parton, who has done another
traditional-ish album.   Twila, I got a second copy of the magazine 
for you.


#211 of 228 by orinoco on Sun Jan 21 04:05:59 2001:

Wait...Mimi Farina is Joan Baez's sister?


#212 of 228 by katie on Sun Jan 21 22:57:47 2001:

(Yes.)

I was going to go to the Folk Festival, and was bummed that I hadn't
gotten around to getting tix yet. Then I found out that Peter Yarrow is
replacing
Joan Baez, and I'm glad I didn't get the tix.


#213 of 228 by krj on Mon Jan 22 02:24:35 2001:

Crap, we're all getting old.  From today's Ann Arbor News:  the Ark had 
wanted to get all of Peter Paul & Mary to fill in for Joan Baez
at the Folk Festival, but Mary Travers isn't walking too well.


#214 of 228 by bruin on Mon Jan 22 13:57:03 2001:

What about Paul Stookey (the other member of Peter Paul & Mary)?


#215 of 228 by krj on Mon Jan 22 16:59:34 2001:

He wasn't mentioned.


#216 of 228 by other on Wed Jan 24 03:46:46 2001:

That's Noel. ;-)


#217 of 228 by jules on Wed Jun 6 04:47:32 2001:

my dads roomate in college - yale - was paul stookey.


#218 of 228 by krj on Fri Jul 6 18:57:32 2001:

Much of the previous discussion about the band Cordelia's Dad went
in this item, so I'll paste in this e-mail from them:
 
From: Cordelia88@aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 09:33:17 EDT
Subject: Cordelia's Dad rocks on Friday

Hello,

Cordelia's Dad will be playing some of the rock and roll music this Friday 
(tomorrow), July 6, at the Flywheel in Easthampton, Mass. It's all ages. 
There are four bands, the first of whom start playing at 8pm: Years Apart, 
Ellison, Tizzy, and us. We stop playing at 11:30. We'll be playing a bunch of 
songs that will be on our next album, which we are currently finishing mixing 
for Kimchee Records.
    We hope to see you there.

-peter irvine
Cordelia's Dad
www.cordeliasdad.com

----------

Sounds like the band has taken yet another drastic change in direction,
since their last album was the militantly traditional "Spine," produced
by Steve Albini.  Still, this is good news, since I had thought they were
likely to break up, with two of the key members doing solo albums and
the third in law school.


#219 of 228 by anderyn on Sat Jul 7 23:40:11 2001:

I am happy about this, too. Cordelia's Dad has always been an interesting
band.


#220 of 228 by krj on Sun Jul 8 06:00:43 2001:

Michelle Shocked is playing the Ark on Monday??  How did this almost
slip by?  Are there tickets left?  Do I care like I did 12 years ago?


#221 of 228 by katie on Sun Jul 8 20:01:14 2001:

I'm going to see her!

I wouldn't miss it.


#222 of 228 by krj on Mon Jul 9 05:00:41 2001:

I got the next-to-last Michelle Shocked ticket from the allocation at 
the downtown Borders.  
 
The unofficial web page reports that she has a dub album for sale only
at gigs, so bring a few extra dollars if you want one.   This would
be Ms. Shocked's fourth limited-release album, and the web page 
says a new broad-release album is scheduled for the fall.


#223 of 228 by dbratman on Mon Jul 9 07:09:28 2001:

resp:218 - "militantly traditional"?


#224 of 228 by mcnally on Mon Jul 9 22:29:46 2001:

  re #223, #218:  I think I can understand "militantly traditional", it's
  just the combination of "militantly traditional" and Steve Albini that's
  afflicting me with cognitive dissonance..

  re #222:  I'm not parsing very well today, I guess..  It took me almost a
  full minute to realize that when Ken talks about Michelle Shocked selling
  a limited release "dub album" that he doesn't mean the sort of album I 
  think of when I think "dub album" (or does he?  I presume he means it's a
  soundboard recording from one of her tours and not a collection of studio-
  remixed instrumental cuts of her work..)


#225 of 228 by krj on Tue Jul 10 03:39:31 2001:

Cordelia's Dad and their "militantly traditional" stage: they were being
fanatical purists, as revivalists, in a way that musicians who grow
up in the tradition rarely are.  Remember that Cordelia's Dad started
out in a style which I describe as "The Ramones Play Folk Music," and 
from that beginning, they moved to a more and more acoustic and 
traditional presentation.    About the time the Steve Albini 
purist album was released, I saw them at a workshop stage at the
Philadelphia Folk Festival, and their attitude was, "this is REAL
folk music and you will LISTEN and APPRECIATE it, it's GOOD FOR YOU
and you could see the folk festival audience getting somewhat cranky...  i
maybe it was just the afternoon heat...
 
Mike: Michelle Shocked's limited-release album "Dub Natural"
is (reportedly) a remixed version of the basic instrumental tracks from 
her forthcoming mainstream album "Deep Natural," so this is, at least
conceptually, dub as you know it.  I got a copy at the show tonight
and will have more to say after I play it.

And I will have to write up something about the Michelle Shocked concert
-- probably it will just be a memory dump from my scribbled setlist notes
-- but this was one of the great, great concerts.  I was dazzled.


#226 of 228 by krj on Tue Jul 10 03:50:07 2001:

("militantly traditional": see my resp:71 in this very item, from 
 shortly after the concert...)


#227 of 228 by krj on Thu Aug 9 16:08:43 2001:

This weekend (Friday-Saturday-Sunday) the National Folk Festival will 
be held in downtown East Lansing.  It's free, though there will be 
plenty of opportunity to spend on food, drinks and cds.
Last year's festival was a lot of fun.  Schedule is at:  http://www.nff.net

The biggest names appearing are probably Doc Watson, the Mahotella 
Queens from South Africa, Barachois from Atlantic Canada, Cherish 
the Ladies, and the Hot Club of Cowtown.


#228 of 228 by happyboy on Thu Aug 9 18:42:34 2001:

saw barachois last month at bliss
saw the mahotela queens a few years back at frog island

I WANT TO SEE DOC WATSON, never seen the ol dude


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