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Item 258: Captain Tractor

Entered by pez on Sun Jun 11 02:08:41 2000:

My newest music obsession is an extremely cool Canadian band called
Captain Tractor.  I first heard them on an episode and then soundtrack
of due South (also wonderfully Canadian). Then, on a whim, I looked them
up on Napster and found several dozen songs by them, this surprised me
so I downloaded mp3s, got hooked, found their website, www.captaintractor.com,
and will be ordering CDs in a week when my paycheck gets to me.
Has anyone else heard/heard of this goofy, fun, talented band?
30 responses total.

#1 of 30 by mcnally on Sun Jun 11 03:23:30 2000:

  I remember encountering one or two of their videos on Canadian television
  while staying in Quebec a couple of years ago..  Something about pirates,
  I believe..


#2 of 30 by otaking on Sun Jun 11 05:24:33 2000:

Yeah! The pirates from Saskatchewan. I love that song.


#3 of 30 by krj on Sun Jun 11 05:55:17 2000:

"The Last Saskatchewan Pirate" was originally written and sung by 
another Canadian band, the Arrogant Worms.  Captain Tractor picked 
the song up from them.  I have the CT album with that song but for 
the life of me I cannot remember what it's called or where I filed it.


#4 of 30 by pez on Sun Jun 11 18:42:32 2000:

Wow, other peopel have heard of them :)
East of Edson has The Last Saskatchewan Pirate :)
one of my favorite songs of theirs and in general.
The Arrogant Worms, hmm? I'll look into them.
geez, i like a lot of Canadian bands...
Crash Test Dummies, anyone? (their early stuff...)


#5 of 30 by krj on Sun Jun 11 20:57:17 2000:

... and "The Last Saskatechewan Pirate" is one of the few songs you'll 
find about agricultural economics.  :)
 
I guess I got started on bands from Canada when Alan, a friend from Toronto,
brought me a tape by maritimes band Figgy Duff around 1982.  
I tend to mostly listen to the folky stuff, which I divide into the 
Maritimes traditionalists and the Western Canadian revivalists.

Hematite just found someplace online to download some Figgy Duff samples;
she didn't like them, alas.
 
Speaking of agriculture, I am being summoned to work in the garden,
so I will just have to dump out some names of bands I've had some 
interest in over the years:

Maritimes:   Figgy Duff, Rawlins Cross, Ashley MacIsaac, Barra MacNeils,
             Rankin Family, Natalie MacMaster, Cuilinn.
Western Canada:  Mad Pudding, the Paperboys
Quebec:      La Bottine Souriante, La Galvaude
 
Sylvia Tyson's women's band Quartette would fit in there somewhere, I guess.


#6 of 30 by pez on Sun Jun 11 22:29:57 2000:

i know that Figgy Duff had a song on the first due South soundtrack,
which is an excellent place to look for songs by Canadian bands.
I am fairly certain that every band on the 2 CDs was Canadian.

"my love is a pastry, covered in gunk..."


#7 of 30 by tpryan on Mon Jun 12 02:41:25 2000:

        I kinda like Frozen Puck to the Head.


#8 of 30 by mcnally on Mon Jun 12 18:41:26 2000:

  One of the interesting things about my travels through eastern Canada
  a couple of years ago was that traditional local music was very high
  profile in the more distant parts of the maritimes (specifically on
  Cape Breton Island in Nova Scotia, and in all of Newfoundland..  I didn't
  travel through mainland Labrador, though in Newfoundland I was picking
  up a station that was broadcast out of Happy Valley.)  To illustrate
  what I mean:  when I was in Newfoundland the band Great Big Sea had
  apparently recently released something and I don't remember hearing
  much on the radio that week besides Great Big Sea, CBC news, and the
  obligatory buoy reports.

  I imagine this has a lot to do with government-funded radio stations in
  a market which wouldn't otherwise be able to support much commercial
  radio, but after passing through the Bryan Adams & Celine Dion zones
  in the more densely populated regions of Ontario and Quebec, I was more
  than ready for some local flavor, or any flavor at all for that matter..

  It was more than just a radio thing, though..  Driving around Cape Breton
  island, I saw signs for fiddle schools and announcement boards telling of
  upcoming caelidhs (sp?)  And in the ferry lounge on the way back from
  Port aux Basques, the small combo playing the ferry lounge had a pretty
  large crowd squeezed into the lounge who were really enjoying their
  traditional maritime numbers..

  Anyone care to venture an informed opinion on the following question?
  Does the Canadian folk scene owe most of its existence to government
  subsidy, or do you think it would exist even without official support?


#9 of 30 by brighn on Mon Jun 12 20:07:12 2000:

I think most folk scenes, everywhere, would exist regardless of government
support, but of course, the more funding something has, the more it thrives.

Taking the (somewhat analogous) example of art museums around the Detroit
area, the museums suffered for over a decade when(Michigan) Gov. Engler did
massive arts cuts, but the D.I.A. has since rebuilt itself from other sources
of funding. 



#10 of 30 by mcnally on Mon Jun 12 22:24:25 2000:

  It's probably not fair to blame the D.I.A.'s dark years on Engler.
  It was suffering substantially well before he was governor.


#11 of 30 by brighn on Tue Jun 13 14:10:08 2000:

Um, Engler cut the funds. Within months, DIA cut the hours in HALF.
If they were on a downslide already, I won't argue, but it is the case that
Engler gave them a healthy shove down into the pit.


#12 of 30 by krj on Tue Jun 13 17:23:22 2000:

I really don't know how much of the Canadian folk 
scene owes its existence to subsidy.  Certainly a lot of it does:
Canada subsidizes and protects cultural ventures pretty heavily, in part
because they try to keep alive a national identity rather than get swept
up completely in the American cultural machine.

I do remember that the La Galvaude CD which mcnally brought back from 
Quebec for me bore a label indicating that its production was supported 
by some agency of the provincial government.  And then there is the 
nationally-funded CBC Radio and TV operations, and the CanCon (Canadian
Content) broadcast rules which require that a certain minimum percentage
of the material broadcast on commercial stations be of Canadian
origin.  Canadian CDs which qualify under the CanCon rules bear a 
code MAPL, which I think stands for Music, Artist, Producer, Label,
four categories which can qualify as Canadian... I'm meandering.
 
In the Maritimes, some of what's happening is that the people there are 
trying to build up the folk music as part of a tourist industry in a fairly
concerted effort to find an economic replacement for fisheries.

Great Big Sea would be an example of success for cultural policies, 
I think.


#13 of 30 by mcnally on Tue Jun 13 19:22:11 2000:

  Heh..  I never realized before that the CanCon categories spell "MAPL"e
  
  Anyone have a handle on how popular the CanCon rules are within Canada
  itself?  Do they get tired of listening to Gordon Lightfoot and watching
  DeGrassi Junior High and long for such American cultural treasures as 
  Backstreet Boyz and "Caroline in the City" <shudder>?  ;-)

  (And would anyone dispute that a beer commercial has done as much to
  raise Canadian awareness of, and pride in, their cultural differences,
  as years and years of CBC Rankin Family television specials?)


#14 of 30 by orinoco on Wed Jun 14 23:37:22 2000:

The CanCon law seems not to be terribly unpopular within Canada, at least
among those I've talked to.  Most of the Canadian music that gets played on
the radio up there is <gasp> pretty popular.  

Which makes sense.  What People Like has a lot to do with What Gets Airplay.
You hear a lot of U2 on the radio in Canada, but nobody's complaining, because
there seem to be a whole lot more U2 fans in Canada than there are in the
U.S.  I haven't heard any Canadians complaining that they don't hear enough
Matchbox 20, the same way I haven't heard any Americans complaining that they
don't hear enough I Mother Earth.  

(If anything, I'd say Canadian radio listeners are better off, because
most of them have at least heard of Matchbox 20, and few of us have heard
of I Mother Earth.  Maybe that's why people don't mind CanCon: it doesn't
limit what they hear, it means they hear more varied things.  Come to
think of it, most of my conversations about music with Canadians have been
"holy shit, you don't listen to ______ in the States?  They rock!")



#15 of 30 by mcnally on Wed Jun 14 23:44:58 2000:

  Wouldn't they be better off, still, if they had *never* heard Matchbox 20?


#16 of 30 by pez on Thu Jun 15 08:04:30 2000:

The Arrogant Worms version of "The Last Saskatchewan Pirate" sounds
almost exactly the same as the Captain Tractor version. That is weird!


#17 of 30 by pez on Thu Jun 15 18:39:43 2000:

damn you people, now i have 10 CDS on my "To Buy" List...
the Arrogant Worms are funny shtuff. "Canada is Really Big"
is a great song.


#18 of 30 by ksarg on Fri Jun 16 15:45:39 2000:

Hi everyone! Does anyone here like Natalie Imbruglia?


#19 of 30 by isis on Fri Jun 16 18:33:02 2000:

no.


#20 of 30 by kewy on Sat Jun 17 01:52:32 2000:

re 14:
hear hear.  Ive started listening to Candian radio at work because 
there is just a different set of songs that get play... Ive discovered 
Matthew Goode Band, I Mother Earth, Our Lady Peace, Travis, J. 
Englishman and a few others just by listening to a Canadian rock 
station... I dunno if its just cause I havent heard them beat into the 
ground, but they all beat the hell out of Match Box 20 and all the ilk.


#21 of 30 by happyboy on Sat Jun 17 17:38:46 2000:

what's th' *dial*, kateriffic?


#22 of 30 by krj on Mon Jun 19 04:52:08 2000:

I bet it's a webcast, just because kewy has really been into web radio.


#23 of 30 by kewy on Sat Jul 1 22:56:13 2000:

re 21:
It's CFNY www.edge102.com

In Canadian music - check out Matthew Good Band at the Sarnia Bayfest 
July 15.  Should be a good show.  Sarnia is about an hour's drive from 
A2, and tickets are 8$CN (!) Using the last exchange rate I was aware 
of, that's about 5$ folks.


#24 of 30 by krj on Mon Jul 17 06:12:31 2000:

Coming up at the Ark in Ann Arbor: Canadian folk-pop bands The Paperboys
and Great Big Sea.  I don't remember the dates, check 
http://www.a2ark.org


#25 of 30 by mcnally on Mon Jul 17 18:48:09 2000:

  A word to the wise:  Great Big Sea have been attracting larger local
  crowds on their last few swings through the area, as well as a substantial
  cross-border draw from Windsor and environs..  Probably best to get tickets
  early if you want to go to that show.


#26 of 30 by krj on Mon Jul 17 20:55:27 2000:

I agree, Great Big Sea are almost certain to sell out the entire 
capacity of the Ark.


#27 of 30 by anderyn on Tue Jul 18 01:15:32 2000:

Great Big Sea is going to be at the Michigan, I think. Which I for one will
think is a Good Thing, since the last time they were at the Ark, there was
a lot of ill will.


#28 of 30 by mcnally on Tue Jul 18 19:34:24 2000:

  Really?  Why?


#29 of 30 by krj on Tue Jul 18 21:41:19 2000:

(I'd guess that people travelled over from Canada
for the show, or from other distant locations, and these people
complained when they could not be admitted.)


#30 of 30 by anderyn on Wed Jul 19 01:53:44 2000:

Okay, you have to realize that I was working as a volunteer that night, and
that I was selling memberships to those people who wanted to drink alcoholic
beverages. First off, the Canadian fans didn't quite get the idea of a private
club and having to be a member to drink alcohol (and these Canadians were into
their alcohol!) and then the bar closed earlier than they expected. Due to
state law, the ARk has to close the bar a half hour before the end of hte
show, and GBS had chosen to play one long set, no intermission. I have *never*
heard such swearing and abuse at the Ark, towards the volunteers. It
permanently lost the ARk three volunteers I know of, simply because they felt
that being subjected to this kind of abuse was not worth the misery. 


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