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Item 256: Blast of Silence

Entered by carla on Sun May 28 10:38:07 2000:

Ok, maybe everyone is sick of the issues being discussed over napster, but
that's neither here nor there.  I now have an emergency.  I usually only
download rarities...live preformances, techno remixes, unlikeley
duets....etc... 

My favorite female vocalist/songwriter in the world is Syd Straw. I try to
own everything available, I have for years.  The same is true of Peter
Holsapple and Chris Stamey <the dB's etc...>

Ok, here's the problem.  I found for the first time tonight a duet between
syd straw and peter holsapple.  I checked online reference sites, nothing.
Oh, the song was cut off half way through the intro, so I didn't even get to
hear anything good.

Not listed in AMG.  Not a thing on eBay...etc.  Where do I look now?

Oh, and there's this Billy Bragg live bootleg that I'd just about kill for.
Damn, I wish I wasn't so po'
12 responses total.

#1 of 12 by carla on Sun May 28 10:42:59 2000:

The song is called "You don't miss your water"
which is either by Otis Redding, or the Byrds. I'm not familiar with that
particular song.  I NEED HELP WITH THIS OR I AM GOING TO EXPLODE!


#2 of 12 by krj on Sun May 28 15:59:03 2000:

I hate to say it, but *you're* the local Syd Straw expert.
Please don't explode, OK?


#3 of 12 by brighn on Sun May 28 17:20:45 2000:

Have you tried verifying the existence of such a track with the Syd Straw
people? Perhaps the artist listing was as flawed as the recording was. I got
an MP3 from someone of Weird Al's "Cantina" song. If you listen to the track,
you can tell it's not Al, and Al actually has a few paragraphs on his website
saying, no, it's not him, and would everyone please stop asking?


#4 of 12 by krj on Sun May 28 18:10:50 2000:

I thought "You Don't Miss Your Water" was an old blues song.
I am not succeeding in finding an author for it on the web; William Bell
had a single with it in 1962, which seems early for Otis Redding to 
have written it.  Ah, here is a site which seems to be attributing it
to William Bell.


#5 of 12 by carla on Mon May 29 18:53:33 2000:

well i said I thought, I was only basing that on doing a search for the
song title.

Well it could be an old old golden palominos b-side, so I'll look
into that as well.

The AMG wasn't by any means accurate, they left out a bunch of side
projects for all the people that she has worked with.

<sigh> I was so excited, too. I'll look for it till I find it.
It's too bad I'm ann arbor's syd straw expert, now isn't it?


#6 of 12 by otaking on Mon May 29 20:45:27 2000:

Don't worry. It'll turn up again.


#7 of 12 by krj on Mon May 29 22:40:28 2000:

It would seem to be from about the period of Golden Palominos'
"Blast of Silence" album, just because both Straw and Holsapple are
on that one, as you know.  I'm having trouble imagining the 
Palominos ever having a single with a B side.  Hmmm.
Don't let me deter you from your search.


#8 of 12 by brighn on Tue May 30 02:51:54 2000:

http://www.cdwarehouse.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=77&prr
fnb
r=47432

CD Warehouse lists a Chris Stamey album named Fireworks, 1991 release, with
track 13 called "You Don't Miss Your Water"

None of the female vocalists listed in the credits is Syd Straw, though Peter
Holsapple is listed as a primary singer.

CD Warehouseclaims to have a used copy.


#9 of 12 by mcnally on Tue May 30 18:47:26 2000:

  "You Don't Miss Your Water" is a personal favorite of mine.  It was,
  in fact, written by William Bell, and appears originally on his (Stax?)
  album "The Soul of a Bell." It's been covered by an amazing number of
  artists, including some unlikely choices (e.g. Brian Eno)  but my favorite
  version is the Byrds' cover that appears on their classic "Sweetheart
  of the Rodeo" album.

  --


  Carla, this is probably a stupid question if you really are a Syd Straw
  fanatic, but you are aware of Straw's work (and Holsapple's for that
  matter..) with Anton Fier's project, "the Golden Palominos", right?

  Straw did the vocals for quite a few of the best tracks on several of
  their albums in the 1980s, back when they were on the now-defunct Celluloid
  Records.

  The band has a rotating lineup, except for Fier, and they've switched to
  other female vocalists since then (they were on Amanda Kramer when I lost
  track a while ago..) I think most of those Celluloid albums are still out
  of print in the U.S. but they should be available as imports, and CDNow
  shows at least one of them as having been reissued in Aug 1999.


#10 of 12 by carla on Tue May 30 18:52:05 2000:

hmm.....pretty sure that I could find fireworks at wazoo, appropriately
enough, it's the only chris stamey albumn that I don't have <sort of forgot
about it> Thanks brighn!

Ken that was what I was thinking as well....but oh yes they have b sides
in fact I have 2 12" singles currently in my collection as we speak and they
have b sides...but I guess that it would make sense that the
track that I'm looking for could be the one on the chris stamey albumn
and since I have a few seconds of the opening
left on mp3 I can play the two and see once I get that
chris stamey albumn that I don't have.

Thanks ken!

Also, this group does commit a lot of song incest
the song angels has been done 4 times by different combinations
of them, for example.  My search continues.


#11 of 12 by carla on Tue May 30 19:15:55 2000:

Mike slipped in!
Yes, I am very familiar with the golden palominos, they are one of the 
best collaborations in musical history, IMHO.  Most of my all time favorite
musicians, plus they introduced me to Bill Laswell. I found the dB's first
and separately from Syd Straw whom I gave a listen to because Michael Stipe
was singing on her solo albumn. I'm pretty much obsessed with peter holsapple,
michael stipe and syd straw equally.

I do also agree that some of the best palominos songs are the ones with Syd.
"Diamond" (which was written by holsapple), "Brides of Jesus", "I've been the
one" is more than likeley my favorite recorded song of all time, "Blas of
silence" was my favorite albumn.

Of course, thanks to syd singing on his albumn, I was introduced to freedy
johnston, sho also rules.

I'm suprised that I've never heard of the song "You don't miss your water"
since i studied blues guitar for 2 years.


#12 of 12 by mcnally on Tue May 30 21:39:35 2000:

  It's not a blues standard..  William Bell was more of a "soul" artist,
  the Byrds covered it as a country/western tune, and other covers I've
  heard have treated it as a straightforward pop song..


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