Grex Music2 Conference

Item 230: Musical guilty pleasures.

Entered by lumen on Fri Jan 28 05:52:47 2000:

Notice: this is not limited to just cheesy music.

Do you have music that you just *love* despite what a lot of the general 
public, or your peer group thinks?  Music that is cheesy, skanky, weird, 
odd, risque, not intended for your age group, and so on..?

I think of music played on the Dr. Demento show quite a bit when I think
of this, if that helps.  But I also think of music that I just love to 
listen to even though it's considered outdated or too um.. juvenile by 
people in my age group.

I can think of a few:

2NU's "Ponderous," which was a weird product of WA state, I think-- the 
last album they did had a credit to my hometown radio station and he 
reworked another song for a radio ad.  I think the lead 'singer', Jock 
Blainey, was some guy that did voice work for radio a lot.

Eiffel 65's "Blue (Da Ba Dee)," which is a big hit in dance clubs but 
has rather silly lyrics, unless you have some deeper interpretation.  
The group is an Italian trio comprised of a singer, a 
keyboarder/programmer, and a DJ.

Krypton's "Let's Blow Up the Tow Truck," which I don't think has grown 
beyond a Dr. Demento staple.  Great tune to listen to in the winter.


48 responses total.

#1 of 48 by orinoco on Fri Jan 28 06:06:02 2000:

10 bonus points for the word "Skanky."

I regularly shock people by telling them I listen to country music (The Blood
Oranges mostly; also Lyle Lovett and Bonnie Raitt, but they're both kinda'
borderline).  


#2 of 48 by mcnally on Fri Jan 28 07:40:35 2000:

  I don't listen to them frequently, but I still occasionally enjoy some of
  the early-80s haircut bands of my adolescence -- A Flock of Seagulls,
  Duran Duran, and other bands more notable for coiffure than composition..


#3 of 48 by gypsi on Fri Jan 28 13:40:54 2000:

I would kill for an mp3 of "Ponderous".  I can't find the damn album by 2nu
anywhere, much less that single.  I adored that song when it came out
(1990-91).


#4 of 48 by goose on Fri Jan 28 20:23:18 2000:

I like those 80's "hair bands".  There, I said it.  Winger is cool, okay?
I am known to listen to Def Leppard, *and* enjoy it.  I've always been more
a Judas Pries kind of guy as opposed to an Iron Maiden kind of guy.


#5 of 48 by sspan on Sat Jan 29 00:22:41 2000:

oh boy.... I could put a large portion of what I listen to here.. let's start
with Deborah (Debbie) Gibson, my #1 guilty pleasure. I've loved her since her
first single, Only in my Dreams. I also like Selena, and some country.. Faith
Hill and Trisha Yearwood for instance.. and harmony groups like Point of Grace
and Avalon. Which is all pretty weird, as I was always an Iron Maiden  AND
Judas Priest kinda guy.


#6 of 48 by tpryan on Sat Jan 29 01:06:07 2000:

        I like the Band of '59:  Big Daddy.  I listen to their CD of
Sgt. Pepper offten enough, that it was strange to hear The Beatles
due their version of it.


#7 of 48 by scott on Sat Jan 29 03:54:47 2000:

Anime soundtracks.  Usually they are pretty cool, but there's almost always
some bad bubblegum pop or other embarrassing bits.


#8 of 48 by anderyn on Mon Jan 31 02:20:50 2000:

Oh. God. Def Leppard rocks. I love them. I also like Blood Oranges. 
And anime soundtracks. And Rick Springfield. Lots and lots of Rick
Springfield.


#9 of 48 by goose on Mon Jan 31 19:06:56 2000:

Sarcasm does not become you. ;-)


#10 of 48 by carson on Mon Jan 31 19:24:33 2000:

(yay for 2nu; they had a new album out late last year, but damned if
I could find a copy of it. my guiltiest pleasure is also Debbie
Gibson... although I'm having trouble following her transition into
Deborah.)


#11 of 48 by scott on Mon Jan 31 21:47:28 2000:

I was listening to the "El Hazard" anime soundtrack earlier today.  The last
track, the show closing theme, is one of those really annoying high-pitched
vocalist Japanese pop things.  It's also one of the best pop productions I've
ever heard.


#12 of 48 by anderyn on Tue Feb 1 00:32:18 2000:

Why, Goose, I was being honest! I love Rick Springfield.


#13 of 48 by albaugh on Tue Feb 1 06:35:08 2000:

Barry Manilow...


#14 of 48 by raven on Thu Feb 3 07:42:08 2000:

I haven't heard Motorhead for years, but would probably crank up the stereo
if I heard them again.  I like to listen to the Breeders sometimes although
Ican hear that they have almost zero talent.


#15 of 48 by lumen on Fri Feb 4 05:18:57 2000:

Did anyone catch VH1's episode of "The List" that covered this topic?  
(Yes, watching it inspired me to put this item down)

The top three picks were:

Tied at #1: I'm Too Sexy and Me So Horny (if you can believe it, it was 
the lady rocker guest who put it up there)

#2: Can't Fight This Feeling

#3: The Greatest Love of All

resp:3  I guess the album wasn't a big seller.  Actually, the 'tune' (if 
you can call it that) was on two different compilations of the same 
name.  The second compilation did not include "She," (which was an odd 
sci-fi/fantasy monologue), but included all the other tracks plus some 
additional material.  I picked up the second in a bargain bin on 
cassette and duped my sisters into their copy on CD.

resp:10 2nu has a new album?!?  Imagine that.. I thought that they would 
die in the passing fad of monologue music.. reminds me of another female 
artist I can't remember who did one called "The Sweater" that was really 
popular for a little while.

Back to the VH1 thread-- interestingly enough, Def Leppard and Barry 
Manilow were mentioned.  Def Leppard, I think, was lumped with glam rock 
that fell out of fashion for good when the Seattle (Tacoma, actually) 
sound came out.  My wife still loves them, but a close friend of hers 
denies ever really liking them, which is funny as hell since she 
introduced Julie to their music.  Barry Manilow was big during the disco 
years, and we all know few artists from that period survive.

Which reminds me-- Barry White is another guilty pleasure of mine-- 
though I own none of his albums, there's no denying that velvety bass 
puts me in the mood whenever I do hear it.  I wonder if he really will 
survive disco as well.


#16 of 48 by goose on Fri Feb 4 05:57:27 2000:

Meryn cadell is the "sweater Song" woman...she's a Canadian artist, and that
album is a riot...

Def Leppard rocks, and I will stand by that statement. :-)


#17 of 48 by gypsi on Fri Feb 4 14:34:04 2000:

Ooh!!!  Carson introduced me to Meryn Cadell.  I love that album.

Thanks to Matt, I now like Def Leppard again.  *sigh*  Also, THANKS TO GOOSE
(jerk), I am now catching myself dancing around singing hair band songs.  ;-)


#18 of 48 by lumen on Fri Feb 4 17:18:44 2000:

I really wonder what the rest of that album sounds like.  I don't 
remember it being around for very long.  Meryn Cadell.  Hrm.  Might 
have to look her up in a discography catalog.

Not to partially digress to something that is more of an Internet 
guilty pleasure, but has the CD connected to 
http://www.hampsterdance.com come out yet?  It's supposed to be a dance 
album.

If enough people actually get it, I wonder if that could be counted.


#19 of 48 by gypsi on Fri Feb 4 18:54:58 2000:

Is it "hampster" or "hamster"?  Hamster is the correct spelling of the
animal...


#20 of 48 by orinoco on Fri Feb 4 19:44:32 2000:

One of my computer geek friends tells the story of a convention where someone
in the room started whistling the hamsterdance music under his breath, and
within about 5 minutes the whole room was singing along.  I have no idea if
this is true or not, but it's a wonderful image.


#21 of 48 by scott on Sat Feb 5 01:09:35 2000:

"rock operas".  Some people think these are the dumbest type of rock album
ever done.  Done well, I like them a lot.  Right at the moment I'm listening
to Queenryche's "Operation Mindcrime".

Hey, "Quadrophenia" is a rock opera, if you get right down to it.


#22 of 48 by gnat on Sat Feb 5 02:10:09 2000:

"Quadrophenia" is a great album... not a guilty pleasure at all.

What's the difference between a "rock opera" and a mere "concept album"?


#23 of 48 by tpryan on Sat Feb 5 18:26:36 2000:

        "The Crazy World of Arthur Brown" can be considered a concept
album.  He's the one-shot artist who did "Fire".  The first side of the
LP expands the song and fills in more.   It did make it to CD.

        That recent Garth Brooks albums where he presents himself as
someone other than Garth Brooks might also be considered a concept.


#24 of 48 by orinoco on Sat Feb 5 22:05:47 2000:

In general, "concept album" is a broader category than "rock opera."  The
theme of a concept album doesn't need to be a plot.


#25 of 48 by tpryan on Sun Feb 6 17:27:16 2000:

        As "Sgt Pepper" was a concept album.  Mostly The Beatles as seeing
this band as one who would play all those tunes.


#26 of 48 by gnat on Mon Feb 7 01:28:39 2000:

I never thought of Sgt. Pepper as being much of a concept album... I'm
not even sure if it was intended as such.  It's got that frame of
the Sgt. Pepper theme, but the individual songs have nothing to do
with each other.


#27 of 48 by lumen on Mon Feb 7 02:47:08 2000:

That was my impression, too-- at best, the idea would be like a 'live' 
album, I suppose.


#28 of 48 by carson on Wed Feb 9 14:55:09 2000:

(damn it, Meryn Cadell's _Angel Food For Thought_ is one of my
favorite albums ever. I *hate* to hear her remembered as a one-hit
wonder... even if she was. ;)  FWIW, those who were first exposed 
to her music by CIMX-Windsor may also remember "Flight Attendant."
I still think it's a crime that Tom Third's remix of her "Barbie"
never received the airplay it deserved, but I digress.)


#29 of 48 by gypsi on Wed Feb 9 17:35:24 2000:

I love "Flight Attendant".  I also like the bumblebee song...I'd have to dig
for my taped copy (from you!) to find the name of it. 


#30 of 48 by dbratman on Fri Feb 18 22:17:36 2000:

A lot of the arias in _real_ operas don't have much to do with each 
other, either.

I always figured a rock opera was an album which made a stab at having 
a plot and some musical continuity (recurring themes and suchlike).

A concept album is anything that claims to be more than a bunch of 
songs in a pleasing order.  The title song, its reprise, and "With a 
little help from my friends" (which the title song leads into) are 
enough to make _Sgt. Pepper_ a concept album.  If you want to think of 
the rest of the songs as being played by the Lonely Hearts Club Band, 
then do so.  If not, don't.


#31 of 48 by otaking on Mon Mar 6 20:26:47 2000:

Styx's rock opera is a guilty pleasure of mine. Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto.

A lot of my friends can't understand why I like listening to Trisha Yearwood
and Patty Loveless.

Dr. Dre and Cypress Hill are also guilty pleasures for me.


#32 of 48 by eeyore on Fri Aug 18 05:55:15 2000:

Hair rock.  I'm currently listening to a compilation with Cinderella, Black
Sabbath, Night Ranger, Dokken, White Lion, Kix, Kiss, Triumph, Mr. Big and
Winger.  Man, is it great stuff!!!!

hmmmm....other stuff....I adore Neil Diamond.  And I own a *LOT* of Disney.


#33 of 48 by mcnally on Fri Aug 18 06:24:53 2000:

 gack!


#34 of 48 by eeyore on Fri Aug 18 06:40:22 2000:

Which one are you gacking over?  Or all of them. :)


#35 of 48 by brighn on Fri Aug 18 14:42:28 2000:

The most demographic-inappropriate music I enjoy is Peggy Lee. After all, I'm
too young to remember where I was when JFK was shot.


#36 of 48 by jules on Wed Jun 6 04:57:49 2001:

def leppard


#37 of 48 by arianna on Thu Jul 19 05:52:15 2001:

I admit it: I like Dream Theater.
<hangs her head in shame>
But at least I'm not into Rush. *wink*


#38 of 48 by eeyore on Fri Jul 20 00:46:48 2001:

Hey!  There's nothing wrong with Rush!  TAKE IT BACK!  :)


#39 of 48 by arianna on Sun Jul 22 05:12:50 2001:

I did take it back, and I got every last penny I spent on it back, too. d=


#40 of 48 by eeyore on Sun Jul 22 06:52:35 2001:

Which album did you get?  ('cause there are a couple bombs....)


#41 of 48 by orinoco on Sun Jul 22 14:09:25 2001:

Actually, Meg, I wonder if you could reccomend an album or two.  There's a
certain bassist I know who is needling me to listen to Rush, but he loves them
madly and deeply and thinks they can do no wrong, so I need my reccomendations
from a more discerning ear.


#42 of 48 by raven on Mon Jul 23 03:37:19 2001:

Well I used to listen to Rush in High School, I thought their best album then
was moving pictures. BUT I don't really listen to them anymore as they strike
me now as a bad mish mash of Yes and heavy metal. <shrug>


#43 of 48 by eeyore on Mon Jul 23 03:48:02 2001:

See, but I *ADORE* Yes and heavy metal. :)

Good places to start with Rush. hmmm...

Avoid "Counterparts".  There are two good songs, period.

Uhhh...warning: I'm biased a bit, because I deffinately prefer their later
stuff, verses earlier.  But there is some good earlier stuff.

The albums that hooked me completely are "Moving Pictures", and "Permanent
Waves".  Both have songs that you will already know, which should help. 
Rush was really into conceptual albums when they were younger, and "PW" was
their last conceptual album.  Other good places to start are "Roll the Bones",
and "Test for Echo", which is their most recent new album.

Another good route of going is "Retrospective", of which there are two albums.
The first is 1974-1980, the second is 1981-1987.  It does completely miss out
on their 90's stuff, but it should give you a good background.

One of the fun things about Rush is their music topics keep up with the
changing times.  "Echo" has a song called "Virtuality", which is about the
internet.  "Bones" has a song called "Heresy", which is about the downfall
of The Wall and Communism.  (The album came out a couple of months after The
Wall came down)

Have I frightened you yet?  :)


#44 of 48 by orinoco on Mon Jul 23 04:34:00 2001:

Not at all.  Sounds like you should listen to Marillion, if you don't already.
I'll keep an eye out for the albums you mention.


#45 of 48 by eeyore on Tue Jul 24 06:41:55 2001:

Actually, I know somebody who used to adore Marillion.  It became a matter
of pride to avoid them, just because he kept shoving them at his friends all
the time.


#46 of 48 by orinoco on Tue Jul 24 20:41:23 2001:

Yeah, Marillion fans are like that.  (Like, uh, me, for instance.... )


#47 of 48 by otaking on Wed Aug 8 19:30:06 2001:

I know I've been listening to too much lite-rock at work when I start to think
Britney Spears sounds good. At least it's not YET ANOTHER DAMN CELINE DION
SONG! (I have no control over the radio at work. I frickin hate that Titanic
song.)


#48 of 48 by arianna on Fri Aug 10 07:36:26 2001:

the only reason celine dion is still around is because of that titanic movie.
but never fear: in a few years, she'll have to find a new career when the
abuse she's putting on her cords starts to show and the nodes set in.  (have
you seenher in that video for the titanic song??  all the muscles in her neck
stand out, like when a horse is straining to pull a mud-mired cart or a tree
stump.  makes me hurt just watching her.)


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