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Item 218: christmas songs

Entered by vixen on Fri Dec 17 02:20:57 1999:

Well, its that time year so i thought i'd post an item about christmas...or
more specifically christmas songs.  What is YOUR favorite christmas song?
Also, I'm trying to figure out the name of a certain song and the kid's movie
that its from. It sorta goes: "I'm mister warm christmas....everything i
touch, starts to melt in my clutch...ect.  
67 responses total.

#1 of 67 by cb311 on Fri Dec 17 02:24:35 1999:

I am partial to the South Park Christmas CD


#2 of 67 by gypsi on Fri Dec 17 02:27:49 1999:

"O Come Emmanuel" has always been my favorite, then "The 12 Days of Christmas"
by those two yooper-sounding guys, and finally "The 12 Days of Christmas" done
as a parody...there's a thing about putting up the lights, Christmas cards,
kids whining, etc.  I wish I knew who did it.


#3 of 67 by gypsi on Fri Dec 17 02:29:58 1999:

Oops...forgot "Carol of the Bells".


#4 of 67 by beeswing on Fri Dec 17 02:46:32 1999:

"Angels We Have Heard on High" is a fave. I just dig the lyrics. And.. 
oh, shoot. I can't remember the title, but it has the "O Night Divine" 
chorus in it. 

But the best of all time: "Santa Claus Go Straight to the Ghetto" by 
James Brown. Hell yeah!!!


#5 of 67 by cb311 on Fri Dec 17 03:36:51 1999:

has anyone listened to the Bob Rivers Twisted Christmas CD's?


#6 of 67 by flem on Fri Dec 17 03:54:52 1999:

Sounds like I need to do some shopping.  :)  

Aside from the Messiah (which is at best only arguably Christmas music) 
and Captain Kangaroo's Nutcracker Suite (which I would be vastly 
surprised if anyone else here has heard), hmm.  Carol of the Bells, 
though I haven't heard a good version in a long, long time.  The Boars 
Head, ditto.  Lots of old, obscure carols that I only know because my 
father somehow manages to find recordings of obscure Christmas music 
around this time of year.  This is the one time of year when he has any 
talent whatsoever for procuring decent music.  


#7 of 67 by beeswing on Fri Dec 17 04:17:39 1999:

Oooh! John Denver and the Muppets Sing Christmas!!!


#8 of 67 by scg on Fri Dec 17 04:57:27 1999:

I haven't heard Tom Lehrer's Christmas Carol in years, but I remember it as
being extremely funny.  It was a hodgepodge of parodies of various different
carols.  http://gunther.simplenet.com/v/data/achristm.htm

In terms of real Christmas carols, I tend to like a lot of the classical ones,
but cringe at the muzakized versions of them that are getting played all over
the place this time of year.  I also seem to be developing a real distaste
for such dumbed down carols as Frosty the Snowman, and Santa Clause is Coming.


#9 of 67 by gypsi on Fri Dec 17 05:10:37 1999:

You may want to add a "...To Town" to that, Steve.  It sounds a
bit...well...Lehrer-ish.  =)

There was a song at Meijer tonight annoying the beejeezus out of me. 
Something about a stupid snowflake tapping at her window.  I almost shot the
damn speakers.

Greg F. - I have a copy of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir doing "Carol of the
Bells" in mp3 format.  Want it?


#10 of 67 by hematite on Fri Dec 17 06:20:21 1999:

There's this version of "Go tell it on the Mountain" sung by
(presumably) a gospel choir with a very deep bass singing the melody. I 
absolutely adore it. And on this same tape (Made before I was born, 
copied off of records, shock!) the same group sings "There's a star in 
the East on Christmas Morn" that I also love.
Along with 'Carol of the Bells' and...other stuff that I can't think of 
when running on 5 hours of sleep and a headache. 


#11 of 67 by eeyore on Fri Dec 17 07:37:21 1999:

Actually, this year I got ahold of a REALLY good Christmas cd....it was $5,
and part of the money went to Toys for Tots.  It had classic vocalists....Ella
Fitzgerald, Rosemary Clooney, Bing Crosby, and sever ofthers that I cannot
remember in my sleepiness.  It's realy good. :) Oh...Mahalia Jackson is
another one. :)

And I'm really appalled that nobody has mentioned the Chipmunks.  :)


#12 of 67 by md on Fri Dec 17 14:28:07 1999:

Coventry Carol.


#13 of 67 by drewmike on Fri Dec 17 17:17:35 1999:

Total guess, Sarah: "Here Comes Susie Snowflake". I'm pretty sure that 
Rosemarie Clooney sang a version, though I'm not sure if it's the 
definitive one.

I had heard somewhere that Jimmie Boyd, who sang "I Saw Mommy Kissing 
Santa Claus" ended up in the cast of The Electric Company. Just like 
Violet Beauregard.

(No, I don't mean he *ended* up there. You know what I mean.)


#14 of 67 by krj on Fri Dec 17 18:00:13 1999:

    (((  Fall 1999 Agora #183  <--->  Music #218  )))


#15 of 67 by gypsi on Fri Dec 17 18:29:28 1999:

Yes, that's it, drewmike.  I hate that song.  Everytime she sang, "Tap tap
tap" I wanted to shoot shoot shoot the speakers.


#16 of 67 by gnat on Fri Dec 17 21:35:13 1999:

As far as I'm concerned, the only Christmas song worth listening to is
"Fairy-Tale of New York," by the Pogues.  "It was Christmas Eve, babe,
in the drunk tank..."  :)


#17 of 67 by mcnally on Fri Dec 17 22:51:00 1999:

  It's certainly a good remedy for overexposure to more traditional 
  Christmas-music sentiment..


#18 of 67 by remmers on Fri Dec 17 23:53:17 1999:

I'm partial to Walt Kelly's "Deck Us All with Boston Charlie".


#19 of 67 by tpryan on Sat Dec 18 00:39:36 1999:

re18:   How about the Cryptkeeper's version of "Deck the Hall with
parts of Charlie"?

        I've listened to about 3 feet of Christmas CDs thusfar this
year.  Some got a second spin thru the CD player, including the
Cheiftans, Tom Paxton, Peter, Paul & Mary, Leon Redbone, and 
some others.

        I have all three of the Bob Rivers Chirstmas CDs, and three
more of his other twisted tunes.

        My best discovery after the fact was "Peace" by The 
Rotary Connection, a Chicago group if I recall.  The voice you
recognize most prominetly is Minnie Ripperton.

        Ringo Star put out a Christmas CD this year.  His version
of "Little Drummer Boy" (dhuh!) and "Christmas dance should be getting
radio airplay, but are not.

        I do get a chuckle out of Black Flag's [bleep] Christmas.


#20 of 67 by jep on Sat Dec 18 03:56:59 1999:

I like a lot of the versions of "Little Drummer Boy" I've heard.

There's a song called "Rocking Around the Christmas Tree" by some 
hard-voiced woman.  I don't know who it is, but I wish I did; I'd like 
to buy the album.  Can anyone help?


#21 of 67 by jep on Sat Dec 18 03:57:47 1999:

Heh.  Forgot there's the Web these days.  Is the singer I'm thinking of 
Brenda Lee?


#22 of 67 by gypsi on Sat Dec 18 07:45:55 1999:

I really like the Dave Matthews Band's "Christmas Song".  I heard it for the
first time tonight, and it's really sweet.


#23 of 67 by beeswing on Sat Dec 18 15:29:40 1999:

Another fave, John Lennon's "So this i Christmas". Melissa Etheridge 
also did a live version of this, and it rocks.


#24 of 67 by beeswing on Sat Dec 18 15:29:59 1999:

...oops. lost an "s" somewhere


#25 of 67 by orinoco on Sat Dec 18 15:39:28 1999:

Although "I Christmas" would fit in quite nicely with his famous claim that
he was more famous than Jesus....


#26 of 67 by gnat on Sat Dec 18 17:59:42 1999:

My friend Sara and I are doing a Christmas radio marathon on WCBN,
from 8pm on Christmas Eve to 6am on Christmas morning.  We're going
to be playing a lot of holiday music, so this item is really helpful.
Keep 'em coming!

I heard of a Kinks song called "Father Christmas (Please Give Us
Money)."  Has anyone else heard this?  What record is it on?

Another cynical Christmas song: Martin Newell's "Christmas in Suburbia."


#27 of 67 by danr on Sat Dec 18 18:13:30 1999:

For humorous Christmas songs, I've always liked "Gramma Got Run Over by a
Reindeer."


#28 of 67 by phenix on Sat Dec 18 23:29:53 1999:

you're a mean one, mr. grinch
winter wonder land by flemming and earl(to the tune of led zep)
mr heat
mr. freeze


#29 of 67 by gypsi on Sat Dec 18 23:59:58 1999:

How could I forget the grinch song...  I love that show.  =)


#30 of 67 by drewmike on Sun Dec 19 04:52:43 1999:

Hey, what do you know? Someone else around here I know!

Just don't call it a Merry-Thon, or Comedy Central is gonna go after 
you.


#31 of 67 by tpryan on Sun Dec 19 23:44:39 1999:

        Find Father Christmas by The Kinks on a Rhino collection:
Billboard Rock 'N' Roll Christmas.  Or invite me to stop and join
you.

        When I heard Stevie Wonder's "Someday at Christmas" I was
in awe of a great song by a Motown artist that was not a cover tune.
But then again, The Tempations version of "Rudolf" is one of my 
favorites.


#32 of 67 by sspan on Mon Dec 20 01:58:47 1999:

Sixpence None The Richer does a nice version of the Grinch song, nothing beats
the origional with Boris though... Rebecca St. James has out a really good
Christmas CD too, with a version of Lennon's Happy Christmas.. Don't forget
the Waitresses song 'Christmas Wrapping'



#33 of 67 by scott on Mon Dec 20 02:17:01 1999:

Tom Waits, "Christmas Card From a Hooker in Minneapolis".

("...and Charlie, hey, I'll be eligible for parole come Valentine's Day")


#34 of 67 by hematite on Mon Dec 20 03:08:36 1999:

Re #32: Doesn't Boris just read the story and the guy who does/did the 
voice of Tony the Tiger sing?


#35 of 67 by orinoco on Mon Dec 20 04:31:36 1999:

I've heard the same thing.  A friend of mine has the cd, and the liner notes
for that song list a non-Boris name, but I wouldn't recognize the name of the
guy who does Tony the Tiger if it jumped up and bit me.  


#36 of 67 by bruin on Mon Dec 20 20:32:14 1999:

Re #35 Tony Marvin, who at one time was Arthur Godfrey's announcer, was the
original voice of Tony the Tiger.

And that's our little-known fact for today.


#37 of 67 by gnat on Mon Dec 20 21:31:35 1999:

re. #31 - thanks for the info!
re. #33 - damn, I forgot all about the Tom Waits song.  Thanks!

We're going to try and get the Grinch soundtrack, and a co-worker said
he's going to burn "A Lonely Jew on Christmas" onto a CD for us.  We
also have some indie-pop Christmas and Hanukah compilations at the
station that we're going to play.  


#38 of 67 by tpryan on Tue Dec 21 04:30:50 1999:

        I still got about 2 and half feet of Christmas CDs to be listened
to this year.  Two John Denvers just went into the CD shuffler (one with
the Muppets).


#39 of 67 by mooncat on Tue Dec 21 13:33:01 1999:

I've always liked "Jingle Bell Rock" but I never hear it... And for church
type songs I've always liked "Hark the Herald Angels Sing" and "Oh Come
All Ye Faithful."

I really like the Southpark Christmas Album... Specially the "Merry
F'kn Christmas" by that teacher guy, and "I saw Three Ships" by Shelly...



#40 of 67 by gypsi on Tue Dec 21 13:58:52 1999:

If you ever play "Jingle Bell Rock" around me, I will throw cookie dough 
at you.  

I still love "O Come Emmanuel".  I can't wait to sing it this weekend.


#41 of 67 by mooncat on Tue Dec 21 14:06:21 1999:

Sarah- well, first I would have to get an album of Christmas music...
which I don't currently have... And none of my dad's multitudinous cds
has Jingle Bell Rock on it... <sighs dramatically>



#42 of 67 by gypsi on Tue Dec 21 14:30:34 1999:

Good.  =)


#43 of 67 by johnnie on Tue Dec 21 15:01:08 1999:

Aw, Jingle Bell Rock is a great song.  C'mon, everybody sing!:

Jingle bell, jingle bell, jingle bell rock
Jingle bells swing and jingle bells ring
Snowin' and blowin' and bushels of fun
Now the jingle hop has begun...


#44 of 67 by beeswing on Tue Dec 21 15:23:26 1999:

::aims the rocket launcher:: FOOOOM!!!

Jewel has a christmas CD out. Pleh.



#45 of 67 by flem on Tue Dec 21 15:27:05 1999:

"O Come Emmanuel"... Feh.  A good song, I suppose, but my family sang it 
at least once a day, every day for a month, every year while I was 
growing up.  I'm a little tired of it, at least of singing it.  I 
suppose a good small-choral arrangement of it would strike my fancy, 
but...


#46 of 67 by gypsi on Tue Dec 21 15:27:42 1999:

Jewel can go away and never come back as far as I'm concerned.


#47 of 67 by drewmike on Tue Dec 21 17:10:12 1999:

Oh, come now. Don't be so harsh. I heard she spills her cans in that 
Civil War movie.


#48 of 67 by gypsi on Tue Dec 21 17:50:03 1999:

And?


#49 of 67 by beeswing on Tue Dec 21 18:51:29 1999:

"spills her cans". heh.

She was described in Jane magazine as a "whiny coffee house wench". :)


#50 of 67 by gypsi on Tue Dec 21 19:48:49 1999:

Yes!!!!  =)


#51 of 67 by drewmike on Tue Dec 21 20:54:17 1999:

I long ago decided that I'd never want to be her boyfriend. I couldn't 
endure all the poetry.

But the cans might be the deal-maker for me in deciding whether to see 
the movie.


#52 of 67 by katie on Tue Dec 21 21:52:52 1999:

I got my Christmas card from Jonathan Edwards today. This year it's a CD!
Two songs: Jingle Bell Rock and The Night Before Christmas. I'll listen to
it tonight.

(For the younger set: Jonathan Edwards sang the hit "Sunshine" ("Sunshine,
go away today...I don't feel much like dancin'...") which is now pretty much
only heard on Oldies stations.)



#53 of 67 by gnat on Wed Dec 22 01:42:33 1999:

Jonathan Edwards?? As in "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God"?  Heck,
I didn't even know he was still alive, let alone putting out albums!

Are Jewel's cans recyclable?



#54 of 67 by hhsrat on Wed Dec 22 03:28:51 1999:

Snoopy and the Red Baron


#55 of 67 by goose on Thu Dec 23 15:42:54 1999:

Everytime Jewel comes on the TV screen or whatnot, my neighbor chines in with:
"Awwwww...who made the pretty girl cry?"

Note to self: See civil war movie with Jewel....


#56 of 67 by orinoco on Thu Dec 23 16:19:09 1999:

Re#53: Yeah.  Didn't you hear? - he's gone goth.


#57 of 67 by lumen on Thu Dec 23 21:28:27 1999:

resp:6  No.  Although the Messiah is traditionally performed at 
Christmas, there is enough material in there that portions of it could 
be done (and have been) for Easter cantatas.

resp:8  Although I love little kids, too many of them have just ruined a 
lot of carols for me-- or at least to the point that I don't like 
singing a lot of them.  The ones you mentioned, Steve, I think are gems, 
but the kids forget the majority of the words.

Another case in point-- most kids forget the intro to "Rudolph the Red 
Nosed Reindeer."

resp:40 resp:45  "Veni, Veni, Immanuel" started out as a Gregorian
chant  written in 12th century France.  I'm sure you might find it more 
refreshing if you sang it in the original Latin.  If you don't have the 
lyrics, they are easy to find on Mannheim Steamroller's _A Fresh Aire 
Christmas_, along with a fabulous version of "Carol of the Bells," which  is
Ukranian, by the way.

Some of my favorites are a little more obscure: while "Silver Bells" is 
well-known, "Los Peces en el Rio" is not.  I never did learn the lyrics, 
but my youngest sister did and shared them with us.  (Spanish is quickly 
becoming the second language of my family).

Others are more light-hearted: Jorge Jorgeson's "Yingle Bells" and 
"Santa Claus at the PTA" are other faves :)


#58 of 67 by lumen on Fri Dec 24 00:51:17 1999:

resp:2 You mean the 12 Days of Christmas by the Mackenzie Brothers?
They may be Yooper-sounding, but they are Canadian characters.  
Evidently the dialect is on both sides of the border.

"I'm Gettin' Nuttin' for Christmas," by.. I can't remember.


#59 of 67 by krj on Fri Dec 24 05:44:26 1999:

NP:  Dan Crary, "Christmas Guitar."  Bluegrass guitar.  The idea of this 
seemed too Musak-y to tolerate, but I was getting to like it as I was 
hanging out at Elderly Instruments today so I brought it home, and Leslie
loves this style of guitar playing.


#60 of 67 by sspan on Sun Dec 26 01:15:27 1999:

oh... did anyone mention Spinal Tap's 'Christmas with the devil'?


#61 of 67 by krj on Fri Nov 24 01:07:56 2000:

In our house, Thanksgiving marks the official opening of Christmas music
season.  NP: "A Roman Christmas," a collection of Italian concertos and 
cantatas on the Naxos label.   This material all dates from around 1700.
The Alessandro Scarlatti cantata is clearly for Christmas, and the 
Corelli concerto was designed to be the background music for shepherd
plays at Christmas.  The brief liner notes say the rest of the music is 
associated with the holiday, but I really don't hear it.  To my uneducated
ear, if you plopped this disc in the player in June, you'd say, "Nice baroque
album."   $7, like all Naxos discs.


#62 of 67 by dbratman on Fri Nov 24 18:40:55 2000:

#1 Christmas disc in this house: "We Three Kings", by the Roches.  
Baroque music, specifically Christmas-oriented or not, works well too.



#63 of 67 by krj on Mon Dec 4 00:58:42 2000:

NP: "Carols at Christmas," Maddy Prior and the Carnival Band.  
This 1998 album might be my favorite of the four? Prior Christmas
albums, if only because it's live, and also exceptionally well 
recorded.  Besides Prior's voice (with lots of harmony support)
you also get the odd jazz riff (derived from Charpentier ?!?) and 
some singing from Rosie Kemp on two songs; I assume Rosie is 
Maddy's daughter.


#64 of 67 by arianna on Thu Jul 19 05:37:08 2001:

One of my favs is "I wonder as I wonder."
Toss in there the entirety of Menotti's opera "Amahl and The Night Visitors."

Fun trivia: "For Unto Us a Child Is Born" from Handel's Messiah was
originally an diddy Handel wrote called "No, di voi non vo fidarmi" (No,
never will I trust you), and in a time crimp, trying to get the piece done
for the date it had been commissioned, he wiped it free of its lyrics and
put the new (and present) text in place of the old.  I got to perform the
original, "No, di voi," while at Interlochen, my first summer at camp
('94) with the High School Women's Choir. 



#65 of 67 by dbratman on Tue Jul 24 05:35:44 2001:

I'd like to hear that sometime.

I know, of course, (and prefer) the original words to the US National 
Anthem, "To Anacreon in Heaven".

At one time I was pleased to be able to unearth the original words of 
the Mendelssohn work later adapted and labeled "Hark the Herald Angels 
Sing".  The original is a hymn to Gutenberg.


#66 of 67 by orinoco on Tue Jul 24 20:40:39 2001:

I'd be curious to read that.  Do you still have the lyrics about Gutenberg?


#67 of 67 by dbratman on Wed Jul 25 18:13:37 2001:

somewhere ...


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