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Item 216: John Lennon died 12-8-1980 from gunshot wound

Entered by eyenot on Wed Dec 8 14:45:32 1999:

 -- just a collection of beatles wisdom --
 
 
Love You To
Harrison
 
Each day just goes so fast
I turn around, it's past
You don't get time to hang a sign on me
Love me while you can
Before I'm a dead old man
 
A life time is so short
A new one can't be bought
But what you've got means such a lot to me
Make love all day long
Make love singing songs
 
Make love all day long
Make love singing songs
 
There's people standing round
Who'll screw you in the ground
They'll fill you in with all their sins, you'll see
 
I'll make love to you
If you want me to
 
 
 
The Inner Light
Harrison
 
Without going out of my door
I can know all things of earth
With out looking out of my window
I could know the ways of heaven
 
The farther one travels
The less one knows
The less one really knows
 
Without going out of my door
You can know all things of earth
With out looking out of my window
You could know the ways of heaven
 
The farther one travels
The less one knows
The less one really knows
 
Arrive without travelling
See all without looking
Do all without doing
 
 
 
Within You Without You
Harrison
 
We were talking
about the space between us all
and people who hide themselves 
behind a wall of illusion
never glimpse the truth
then it's far too late
when they pass away
 
We were talking
about the love we all could share
When we find it
to try our best to hold it there
with our love, with our love
we could save the world
if they only knew
 
Try to realize it's all within yourself
no one else ca make you change
And to see you're really only very small
and life flows on within you and without you
 
We were talking
about the love that's gone so cold
and the people who gain the world
and lose their soul
They don't know, they can't see
Are you one of them
 
When you've seen beyond yourself
then you may find
peace of mind is waiting there
And the time will come
when you see we're all one
and life flows on within you and without you
 
 
Tomorrow Never Knows
Lennon/McCartney
 
Turn off your mind, relax
and float down stream
It is not dying
It is not dying
 
Lay down all thought
Surrender to the void
It is shining
It is shining
 
That you may see
The meaning of within
It is being
It is being
 
That love is all
And love is everyone
It is knowing
It is knowing
 
That ignorance and hate
May mourn the dead
It is believing
It is believing
 
But listen to the 
color of your dreams
It is not living
It is not living
 
Or play the game 
existence to the end
Of the beginning
Of the beginning
Of the beginning
Of the beginning
Of the beginning
Of the beginning
 
 
Across The Universe
Lennon/McCartney
 
Words are flying out like
endless rain into a paper cup
They slither while they pass
They slip away across the universe
Pools of sorrow waves of joy
are drifting thorough my open mind
Possessing and caressing me
 
Jai guru deva om
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
 
Images of broken light which 
dance before me like a million eyes
That call me on and on across the universe
Thoughts meander like a 
restless wind inside a letter box
they tumble blindly as 
they make their way across the universe
 
Jai guru deva om
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
 
Sounds of laughter shades of earth
are ringing through my open views
inciting and inviting me
Limitless undying love which
shines around me like a million suns
It calls me on and on across the universe
 
Jai guru deva om
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
Jai guru deva
Jai guru deva
 
 
Polythene Pam
Lennon/McCartney
 
Well you should see Polythene Pam
She's so good looking
But she looks like a man
Well, you should see her in drag
dressed in a polythene bag
Yes you should see Polythene Pam
Yeh, yeh, yeh
 
Get a dose of her in jackboot and kilt
She's killer diller when 
she's dressed to the hilt
She's the knid of a girl 
that makes the news of the world
Yes you could say she was attractively built
Yeh, yeh, yeh
 
-- just a collection of beatles wisdom --
 
 
 ONE THING I CAN TELL YOU IS YOU GOT TO BE FREE 
 ""
 
24 responses total.

#1 of 24 by mcnally on Wed Dec 8 15:06:59 1999:

  The Beatles were definitely an unmatched phenomenon in popular music.


#2 of 24 by happyboy on Fri Dec 10 23:36:38 1999:

like ted nugent, or something.


#3 of 24 by mcnally on Sat Dec 11 04:49:42 1999:

  Except that it'd be *good* if there were more like the Beatles..


#4 of 24 by happyboy on Sat Dec 11 08:58:39 1999:

oh ...so you mean like...capt beefheart!


#5 of 24 by gnat on Sat Dec 11 17:09:28 1999:

Or the Kinks... 


#6 of 24 by happyboy on Sat Dec 11 17:45:49 1999:

or Hampton's Grease Band...


#7 of 24 by gnat on Sun Dec 12 00:46:04 1999:

Or the Velvet Underground, or the Beach Boys, or the Stooges, or
Syd Barrett, or.... (etc.)


#8 of 24 by mcnally on Sun Dec 12 02:12:39 1999:

 The thing about the Beatles isn't that they were wildly successful --
 other bands have been wildly successful (perhaps not *as* wildly..)
 Nor is it that they made good music, though they did make good music
 they hardly hold a monopoly on that.

 What's remarkable about them (to me, at least) is that unlike any of
 the other acts mentioned it's almost impossible to find someone who
 either doesn't know about the Beatles or who thinks they're too cool
 to enjoy the Beatles' music.


#9 of 24 by gnat on Sun Dec 12 19:21:05 1999:

I know plenty of people who think they're too cool to enjoy the Beatles'
music.  Of course, most of them are pretty dumb...


#10 of 24 by dbratman on Wed Dec 15 22:02:47 1999:

I know a lot of 60s-generation people who hate the Beatles (most of 
whom prefer the Stones), and I wouldn't care to take a survey of 
Beatles knowledge among today's teenagers (or teenagers of any period 
for the last 20 years, actually).

But regardless of their popularity among certain limited groups, the 
Beatles were supreme in their field, something that observant people 
noticed from the beginning.  (They wrote most of their own songs!  They 
made up their own answers to press questions!  Even parents liked their 
music!  None of these were true of most pop phenoms at the time.)

Elvis may be a greater cultural icon, but the Beatles were the best 
musicians in popular rock, period.


#11 of 24 by mcnally on Thu Dec 16 01:10:06 1999:

  Well, not the "best musicians", but best all-around, perhaps..


#12 of 24 by krj on Thu Dec 16 16:34:13 1999:

Best songwriters, maybe?   As songwriters they begin to stand outside 
the rock tradition and more in the line of the pop classicists like 
the Gershwin brother, Cole Porter, the great Broadway musical writers.


#13 of 24 by mcnally on Thu Dec 16 17:42:41 1999:

  I'll go along with "best songwriters."  Certainly their songs will
  far outlast almost everything else from that time period.


#14 of 24 by orinoco on Sat Dec 18 00:28:48 1999:

They were one of the few acts in any style that combined excellent songwriting
with good execution.  Most of the songs I'd consider really well-written were
written by either someone who specialized in songwriting or someone who
_should_ have specialized in songwriting and left the performance to someone
else.  In styles that insist artists write their own songs, most of those
songs end up pretty mediocre.  
Thankfully, there's nothing wrong with a mediocre song, especially when it's
performed well, but the Beatles were an example of how much better songwriting
can be.


#15 of 24 by lumen on Thu Dec 23 21:09:35 1999:

Yes.  One fine example is Bob Dylan, who incidentally, was a profound 
influence on the group after they met.  I think it's been mentioned here 
that many people like Bob Dylan's music better when he isn't singing 
it..


#16 of 24 by happyboy on Mon Dec 27 16:29:40 1999:

he use to have really cool hair...
but not anymore.


#17 of 24 by dbratman on Mon Jan 3 18:46:50 2000:

What I meant in #10 is what orinoco said in #14.  The Beatles' 
musicianship included both their performing skills (good, if not 
uniquely outstanding) and their songwriting skills (spectacular).  As 
opposed to the aforementioned Bob Dylan: songwriting very good, 
performing gawdawful.


#18 of 24 by lumen on Tue Jan 11 03:27:51 2000:

Well, it should be noted that the _Rubber Soul_ album was almost a 
direct result of meeting with Dylan.  Dylan said something to the effect 
that the songwriting wasn't deep or philosophical enough-- before, the 
Beatles had written a lot of pop tunes.

So even if Bob Dylan wasn't quite as good (as resp:17 might suggest), I 
would say he pushed the Beatles to progress further than where they had 
been.


#19 of 24 by mcnally on Tue Jan 11 04:45:08 2000:

  Although I'm sure he did influence their career a bit, I think that
  Dylan's given waaaay too much credit for whatever inspiration he might
  have provided.

  I think it's far more significant that around the time of "Help" and
  "Rubber Soul" that not only were audiences getting more adventurous but
  the Beatles were also beginning to enjoy the freedom of being established
  superstars.


#20 of 24 by orinoco on Tue Jan 11 05:59:10 2000:

<nods>  The "famous enough to get away with it" point is when most interesting
musicians _got_ interesting.  Like the Beatles' departure from straightforward
pop songs, or like Paul Simon or Joni Mitchell or even Bob Dylan himself
veering off from folk, or like Miles Davis leaving mainstream jazz and going
electronic, or whatever.


#21 of 24 by lumen on Wed Jan 12 01:29:46 2000:

and get that never seems to show in my music classes.. the things 
revered musicians have done, and I'm still doing tired stuff


#22 of 24 by dbratman on Wed Jan 19 23:26:30 2000:

>Well, it should be noted that the _Rubber Soul_ album was almost a
>direct result of meeting with Dylan.

Rather proves the point about Dylan: more the cause of greatness in 
others than the creator of greatness himself.


#23 of 24 by micklpkl on Thu Oct 5 21:57:42 2000:

>I don't really know if this is a good place to file this report or not, but
>I thought some of you might be interested.
>
>Monday, October 9, 2000 would have been John Lennon's 60th birthday. I just
>received an e-mail notice from my favourite local radio station about the
>tribute they will broadcast for SIX hours on Monday night. (Remember... all
>times are Central, which means one hour behind Ann Arbor time)
><pasting>
>6 - 7 p.m. "Starting Over: A Conversation with Yoko Ono about the John Lennon
>reissues."   We air a September 7, 2000 interview with Yoko Ono by KGSR
>Program Director Jody Denberg, in NYC~ includes 6 newly remixed/remastered
>songs from 3 classic Lennon discs.
>
>7-10 p.m. "John Lennon" A 60th Birthday Celebration"  KGSR airs a 3 hour
>nationally-syndicated program that also includes new interview material with
>Yoko Ono as well as comments by many of the people who worked directly with
>John Lennon, as well as many great Lennon songs, both Beatles & solo.
>
>10 p.m. - Midnight "Austin Celebrates John Lennon." For two hours KGSR
>broadcasts live from the KGSR Music Lounge.  We've asked some of our favorite
>Austin musicians to perform John Lennon compositions on the air. Participants
>include Stephen Doster, Shawn Colvin, Patty Griffin, David Halley, Damnations
>TX, Alejandro Escovedo, Craig Ross, Jon Dee Graham, Two O'Clock Courage, Gurf
>Morlix, Ron Flynt & the Blue Hearts and Eliza Gilkyson.
>
>You can listen to 107.1 KGSR on your computer by going here:
http://www.broadcast.com/radio/adult_album_alternative/kgsr/
or, of course
http://www.kgsr.com


#24 of 24 by jules on Wed Jun 6 04:55:56 2001:

two of us wearing raincoats standing nowhere in the sun


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