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Item 207: You listen to WHO?

Entered by cyberpnk on Tue Oct 19 16:17:25 1999:

An Item About obscure and little-known performers and groups. For instance,
one performer I haven't been able to find anything about is Keedy. I have her
CD 'Chase The Clouds', and while I think it's excellent, I can't find out
anything about her. Does anyone else know?
16 responses total.

#1 of 16 by raven on Tue Oct 19 19:40:56 1999:

I have a tape of "The Incredible String Band" that I think is wonderfull with
with strange medeivel (sp?) bluegrass with tabla, yet I know nothing about
them, anyone have any info?


#2 of 16 by krj on Tue Oct 19 21:29:47 1999:

Wow.  An Alta Vista search on +keedy +"chase the clouds" only turns up 
copies for sale, or people listing their CD collections.  And only 
about 19 total listings.  One page gives a 1991 date for the disc.
This is certainly one of the most obscure items I've ever looked up
on the web.
 
The Incredible String Band are *much* better known.  They were a classic
1960s hippie band from Britain, sort of a psychedelic folk outfit.  
The two principal performers were Mike Heron and Robin Williamson, 
and at some point their girlfriends also joined in the band.  
They split up in the mid-1970s, with both Heron and Williamson 
continuing to this day in low-key solo careers.

"The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter" is supposed to be their best album.
The Hannibal label put together a nice promotional sampler when 
they acquired much of the ISB back catalog, and I see that fairly
regularly in the used market.  
 
Most of their best albums were issued on CD by the Ryko/Hannibal or 
Elektra labels, though they might be drifting out of print again.
 
www.allmusic.com has a decent introductory essay on the band.
They have enough fans that there are probably a good number of 
fan web sites.


#3 of 16 by oddie on Wed Nov 3 05:23:09 1999:

I think I may have you all beaten when it comes to obscure albums. :) I used
to have a couple of LPs by a Kiwi bluegrass band that my uncle played in
(back in the 60s or 70s) called Stoney Lonesome. (there is apparently
a blues band today called the Stoney Lonesome Blues Band, which I foundw
with a hotbot search, but it is unrelated). The song of theirs that I remember
the most was a bluegrass cover of a Roling Stones song...I forget the title
though. Can you beat that? ;-)


#4 of 16 by katie on Wed Nov 3 05:48:51 1999:

Singer-songwriter Bernice Lewis sometimes plays with an all-girl ukulele
band. They covered the Barenaked Ladies' "If I Had A Million Dollars."


#5 of 16 by orinoco on Thu Nov 4 04:22:30 1999:

Stephen Christoff is a guy who Eric and I struck up a conversation with while
he was playing the musical saw for change downtown.  It just so happened that
he was opening for someone that night in the basement of the Unitarian church;
it just so happened further that he had a few CDs left to sell.  He plays the
mandolin and sings mostly, with musical saw on a few tracks.  


#6 of 16 by gnat on Thu Nov 4 21:36:19 1999:

That sounds really cool.  I've gotten to be a big musical saw fan
lately.  (Did you know that a musical saw player is called a "sawyer"?)


#7 of 16 by orinoco on Fri Nov 5 04:54:25 1999:

Didn't know that.  That's wonderful.


#8 of 16 by oddie on Fri Nov 5 05:04:46 1999:

What is a musical saw?


#9 of 16 by orinoco on Fri Nov 5 17:25:24 1999:

By playing a saw blade wtih mallets or a violin bow, you can get a musical
tone out of it.  By bending the blade in certain ways, you can change the
pitch (I'm not sure exactly what determines the pitch you get).  Usually it
comes out with a mournful glissando-y sound.

Can anyone think of a fairly common recording that has musical saw on it? It
shows up in the oddest of places, but I can't think of examples at the moment.


#10 of 16 by gnat on Fri Nov 5 22:51:07 1999:

Musical saw is all over Mercury Rev's latest, "Deserter's Songs," and
skilled sawyer Julian Koster plays both on Neutral Milk Hotel's "In
the Aeroplane Over the Sea" and, less obscurely, on a They Might Be
Giants song - "James K. Polk," I think.

I found a website on musical saws once.  It had info on saws to buy
(apparently they make saws solely for musical purposes) and tips from
Julian Koster on playing the saw.  I wish I still had the URL...


#11 of 16 by krj on Mon Nov 8 17:51:23 1999:

An Alta Vista search on    +"musical saw" +"julian koster"  finds:
 
http://homepages.enterprise.net/scruss/musicalsaw.html
 
which might be the page you are looking for.


#12 of 16 by orinoco on Mon Nov 8 21:30:06 1999:

In other musical saw news, I just discovered a saw player in the credits for
"Ghostyhead," for a particularly haunting melody that I'd just assumed was
some sort of electronic gobbledygook.  


#13 of 16 by gnat on Mon Nov 8 22:22:44 1999:

Saws and theremins do sound somewhat alike.


#14 of 16 by lumen on Tue Nov 9 01:07:27 1999:

That's just what I was thinking.


#15 of 16 by gnat on Tue Nov 9 02:15:33 1999:

Though I believe that saws are actually easier to play in some respects,
because the pitch is much easier to control (i.e. a saw doesn't alter
in pitch every time your hand shakes a little).



#16 of 16 by scott on Tue Nov 9 12:25:15 1999:

Tom Wait's CD "The Black Rider" has musical saw on it in a few places, too.


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