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Item 188: Thoughts on Mozart making babies smarter...

Entered by rchick on Wed Apr 14 04:48:41 1999:

Do you think this is legit, or a scheme to sell books, CDs and lecture 
series?
12 responses total.

#1 of 12 by mcnally on Wed Apr 14 15:17:34 1999:

  I'm inclined to be *extremely* skeptical..


#2 of 12 by orinoco on Wed Apr 14 21:21:51 1999:

There was a study - apparently a fairly legitimate one, too - which connected
certain kinds of music with better test scores.  The catch was, it didn't
matter what music you'd been listening to when you were 3 years old, or what
music you'd been listening to when you studied for the test - all that
mattered, in this study, was the music you'd been listening to a half-hour
or so before you took the test.  (Or so I remember, at least.  If anyone has
actual information about this study, and not just reccollections of newspaper
articles, feel free to tell me I'm full of shit).


#3 of 12 by lumen on Thu Apr 15 04:36:07 1999:

Dan's more or less on it.  I don't have the source, but a university 
conducted a test with a specific Mozart piece and found that spatial 
reasoning was increased temporarily-- for about 15 mins, I think.

Someone needs to do a little research, I suppose.


#4 of 12 by rcurl on Thu Apr 15 05:30:02 1999:

However financial reasoning went to pot (as shown by Mozart's life).


#5 of 12 by orinoco on Tue Jul 13 15:32:30 1999:

Okay, now I'm hearing mention of _another_ study that points to music
_lessons_ early in life as a way of raising mathematical ability.  Someday
when I have some free time I gues I'm gonna have to track some of these
studies down....


#6 of 12 by remmers on Wed Jul 21 18:34:45 1999:

A data point, albeit purely anecdotal: I started piano lessons at age 5
and have a Ph.D. in mathematics. (Always liked Mozart too.)


#7 of 12 by dbratman on Wed Jul 21 20:48:55 1999:

I regard the claim as still unproven, but not at all implausible.

Music can have such an enormous impact on one's emotional state.  I 
would not be surprised if one's emotional state in turn affected one's 
ability to learn or to think clearly.

As for infants, they are reported to be highly succeptible to 
stimulus.  Surely the music they're listening to will affect the hard-
wiring of their little brains.

That said, I find somewhere between obnoxious and mendacious the notion 
of marketing CDs of Mozart to parents with a virtual guarantee that 
they'll turn the children into little Einsteins.


#8 of 12 by mcnally on Wed Jul 21 23:43:23 1999:

  I never kept up with my piano lessons, which is obviously why I never
  earned a Ph.D. in mathematics..  In fact I went through quite a number
  of musical instruments trying to find one I liked playing enough to
  practice.  Eventually I reached the conclusion that it wasn't any property
  of the instruments that was at fault..


#9 of 12 by rcurl on Thu Jul 22 01:51:01 1999:

I didn't keep up with my violin lessons, but my career has been in
applied mathematical modeling. Well, I did build a harpsichord later
in life.....


#10 of 12 by lumen on Mon Jul 26 21:29:17 1999:

The only scientific findings that I remember reading about was that 
having listened to a particular work by Mozart, spatial reasoning in 
tested subjects increased significantly (almost 60%, I think)-- but the 
effect was VERY temporary-- only about 15 mins.


#11 of 12 by dbratman on Thu Aug 5 22:18:16 1999:

One wonders if the length of the Mozart work makes any difference to 
the length of the effect - if you listen to "Don Giovanni" do you have 
any more lasting effects than if you listen to the "Turkish Rondo"?  
Perhaps it also affects the type of spatial reasoning as well.  A 
person listening to the "Turkish Rondo" might do better on a test 
question concerning the borders of the Ottoman Empire, while a person 
listening to "Don Giovanni" might do better with, er, human anatomy?

<joke, d---e, joke!>


#12 of 12 by rcurl on Fri Aug 6 06:17:14 1999:

There was a newspaper article in the past couple of days reporting that
other studies found no effect of Mozart on any (unrelated) learning task.
So, there is a counter data point. Obviously, more work is needed.....


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