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Item 147: What`s Up With The Ark?

Entered by katie on Mon Aug 24 03:51:47 1998:

 What`s up with the Ark? The calendar never gets mailed anymore until
halfway through the month in question. Neither is it available at
Schoolkids. I assume it's not even available at the Ark. Besides being
annoying to us Ark goers, it seems inconsiderate to the performers.
Last month Jonathan Edwards had a very low turnout; his concert was
announced only a week ahead. He usually sells out, and many of my
Jonathan Edwards fan friends were upset at havinf missed the show.
34 responses total.

#1 of 34 by goose on Mon Aug 24 04:55:24 1998:

I see they booked comedian Louie Anderson.  That struck me as odd.


#2 of 34 by krj on Mon Aug 24 15:23:09 1998:

Problems with mailing the calendar are likely to be the problem 
of the Ann Arbor Post Office, who have a terrible problem with 
the prompt delivery of date sensitive junk mail.
I haven't noticed any horrible calendar delivery delays here 
in Ann Arbor, though.
 
The Ark schedule is on www.a2ark.org.   However, those pages will 
not work with Lynx, or even with an older version of MSIE.
I gave up trying to argue with their web support people about it.

The schedule also appears in the Ann Arbor Observer.
 
Katie, you might write to them and let them know that they blew
the publicity on Jonathan Edwards.


#3 of 34 by krj on Mon Aug 24 21:50:34 1998:

(Louie Anderson is doing a homeless benefit.)
 
How do people feel about the Ark now selling some of the center section
seats on a reserved basis, for $3 extra?


#4 of 34 by mcnally on Mon Aug 24 22:19:38 1998:

  Are they reserved by seat or does the $3 just earn you the privilege
  of sitting in that section?

  I can't say the idea thrills me but I only go to the occasional show
  at the Ark.


#5 of 34 by anderyn on Tue Aug 25 00:14:22 1998:

I don't know about the schedule coming out late, but I did hear rumblings
about the Jonathan Edwards concert. It may very well be that the Ark is
concentrating on its on-line advertising. I don't know. I only volunteer
there for certain shows, but I do know the Sept. Oct. shedule should be
out soon. 

Alas, I'm working the Louie Anderson show, as well. I'm not sure I'm up
for it!


#6 of 34 by katie on Tue Aug 25 05:44:07 1998:

I called today and the fellow on the phone (David) listed all the upcoming
shows for me. I want to see Gillian, Martin, Lou & Peter, Greg, and Iris.

I asked why Liv Taylor hasn`t been scheduled in 2 years and was told that
he now charges $5000 per show because he doesn't want to tour anymore.
The Ark can`t pay that. Bummer.


#7 of 34 by anderyn on Tue Aug 25 14:53:39 1998:

Reserved Seating Update

Beginning September 1, 1998, The Ark will offer reserved seating for all
ticketed shows. Ticketed shows are those where advanced tickets are
available. Reserved seats may be purchased from the Michigan Union
Ticket Office (MUTO) only and will be available up until one week prior
to the show. An additional cost of $3 will be added to the posted ticket
price. You may obtain tickets at the MUTO in person or by telephone.

Gleaned from their Web Site.

Me, I want to see the Paperboys, Great Big Sea, possibly Bela Fleck,
and Christine Collister. But then, I'm a big Anglophile. So the fact
that Archie Fisher is coming in October just made my year! YES!


#8 of 34 by bmoran on Tue Aug 25 15:18:23 1998:

When's Bela going to play?


#9 of 34 by anderyn on Tue Aug 25 15:45:21 1998:

Last gig of September. It's on the Ark web page.


#10 of 34 by mcnally on Wed Aug 26 02:15:23 1998:

  When's "Great Big Sea" coming?  After overexposure on my trip to
  Newfoundland (seemingly all they played on the radio there, which
  was OK by me after having spent so much time driving through 
  Ontario and Quebec..) I feel somewhat obliged to see a show..


#11 of 34 by anderyn on Wed Aug 26 02:35:17 1998:

I love them. I have their records. The day before Bela Fleck.


#12 of 34 by krj on Thu Sep 17 18:11:43 1998:

Just a reminder: Swedish instrumental trio or quartet Vasen is 
playing at the Ark on Sunday.
I hope to be there!


#13 of 34 by katie on Fri Sep 18 01:45:38 1998:

I`ll be there Fri for Gillian Welch, and Oct 4 for Martin Sexton.


#14 of 34 by krj on Fri Sep 18 20:00:52 1998:

I'm being a lump and not going to Gillian Welch.  Mostly I'm disappointed
that she's only doing an opening set.  Katie, do bring us a report.


#15 of 34 by katie on Fri Sep 18 21:31:47 1998:

Okey doke.
It's a crime (or should be) to miss Martin Sexton. He is amazing.


#16 of 34 by anderyn on Sat Sep 19 02:15:57 1998:

I heard that, but I'm not going. I am going to see Vasen on Sunday. And
Bela Fleck, etc. at the end of the month.


#17 of 34 by katie on Sat Sep 19 05:39:36 1998:

Gillian and David and Guy and Jamie were awesome. Rather than Gillian opening
for Guy, they each did a full 2 hr show, and then around midnight a few
songs with all of them piping in.


#18 of 34 by krj on Mon Sep 28 18:56:51 1998:

Sigh.  I always miss the good shows.
 
Just a reminder that Great Big Sea is Tuesday, September 29, and 
Bela Fleck is Wednesday, September 30.


#19 of 34 by mcnally on Wed Sep 30 04:41:42 1998:

  Saw Ken at tonight's Great Big Sea concert.

  I had a good time, though clearly there were people there whose
  enjoyment substantially exceeded my own.  The crowd was wildly
  enthusiastic and the band themselves were extremely energized.
  It's a fine thing, I think, to watch people who are so obviously
  enjoying what they do.

  Considering that I've never owned one of their records I was 
  amazed by the number of songs I recognized -- all the credit for
  that fact is owed to my travels in Newfoundland this summer.
  I'm not exaggerating when I say that their music gets an astonishing
  amount of airplay there, though rather than being annoying it's
  kind of cool -- the people in the Maritimes are obviously very
  into their local music scenes and I think that's good, whether
  it's the fiddle schools and performances that I saw signs of 
  all over Nova Scotia's Cape Breton Island or the enterprising
  musicians entertaining passengers in the lounge of the Marine
  Atlantic ferry on the trip to/from Newfoundland.


#20 of 34 by bmoran on Sun Oct 4 12:03:15 1998:

The price for Bela was a little high for me. Did anyone go?


#21 of 34 by katie on Mon Oct 5 05:13:13 1998:

Not I.  But Martin Sexton was wonderful tonight. I saw him at Borders at
3 pm, then attended both the 7 and the 9 pm shows. Did I mention he was
wonderful?


#22 of 34 by bmoran on Mon Oct 5 13:34:50 1998:

No, you didn't. Is he a friend of yours? 


#23 of 34 by anderyn on Tue Oct 6 00:22:56 1998:

Katie, my friend at work said he was fantastic, wonderful, never better.
He was very bouncy about the concert. He is going to loan me the new
CD once he's got the "new" out of it.


#24 of 34 by krj on Wed Oct 21 18:37:40 1998:

I'm behind on my dinky little show reviews.  As mcnally mentioned 
in resp:19 , I was at the Great Big Sea concert at the Ark at the 
end of September.  The place was far more packed than I had expected, 
and Mike and I had a friendly dispute about how much of the audience 
had come over from Windsor.  (My guess: about 80% of the approximately
350 in the audience.)  GBS seems to be reaching for pop stardom in 
Canada; they even had a guitar technician along to take care of their
instruments during the show, a luxury out of the reach of most 
folk bands.  And yet they are still solidly based in traditional 
songs and tunes; I kept being reminded of The Kingston Trio.
 
Their original ballads remain sappy.  This is a chronic problem with 
Canadian folk bands.
 
It was a fine show; the audience had a wild time, probably the most 
enthusiastic Ark audience since the Wolfstone shows.  I hope 
things continue to go well for this band.


#25 of 34 by katie on Thu Oct 22 03:16:45 1998:

Does anyone know what or who is scheduled to replace Richard Shindell, who
cancelled his show on Oct 28?  Anya said it was too little notice to add
an Open Stage, unfortunately.


#26 of 34 by krj on Thu Oct 22 18:10:30 1998:

The website (http://www.a2ark.org) just says "Richard Shindell -
Cancelled." I would guess that if it was too late to book an Open Stage it was 
too late to book anyone else.


#27 of 34 by krj on Thu Oct 29 19:59:34 1998:

*sigh*.  After two months when I had to pick and choose my Ark shows
to fit my time budget, the November schedule looks like more of a 
drought for my tastes.  I'm curious about Bulgari, "Authentic Folk 
Music of Bulgaria;" they are not an ensemble which has any presence 
in the US market but Balkan folk stuff always interests me.  
Beyond that, I *could* see myself going to Patty Larkin or 
John Hartford, but neither are must-see shows.


#28 of 34 by eeyore on Thu Nov 19 15:14:06 1998:

Sorry about the drift, but where does one find a  Great Big Sea CD?


#29 of 34 by krj on Thu Nov 19 21:53:53 1998:

The American release, RANT AND ROAR, which is compiled from the two 
Canadian releases UP and PLAY, is issued on some imprint distributed
by Time/Warner, so you should be able to get it "at any decent 
record store:" Tower, Borders, WhereHouse, possibly SKR.
 
The Canadian releases are listed in www.cdnow.com, and two of them are 
also listed at www.amazon.com.  Or, if you want to travel, I would try 
Dr. Disc in Windsor.


#30 of 34 by anderyn on Thu Nov 19 23:02:26 1998:

I have been turning on several friends to GBS. They also now have
discovered the Oyster Boys, which means more people to obsessover
them.


#31 of 34 by krj on Wed Dec 9 08:12:12 1998:

Last Friday I took Leslie's visiting family to the Ark.  The point was 
more to show them the house -- Leslie's family has a 30+ year involvement
with folk music, and they had been to visit Ark #2.  Michael Cooney was 
playing.  He's a venerable figure at the Ark; he used to open every 
season there, but after his car accident he seems to have cut back 
touring a lot.  Leslie's mom said she remembered when Cooney would pull
a couple of hundred people in the old days, but the crowd was maybe 
sixty that night.  Cooney is a bit of a relic: a solo acoustic performer
doing mostly American traditional material.  He also draws heavily on 
the comic songs of Lou & Peter Berryman.  
 
I enjoyed it.  I really need to get out for more small acoustic shows.


#32 of 34 by katie on Wed Dec 9 13:09:19 1998:

Michael Cooney was in the audience for the Arlo Guthrie show, and he was
invited up to do one song. It was a Berryman song.;-) He sure looks 
different from his Ark photograph!


#33 of 34 by krj on Wed Dec 9 16:58:09 1998:

Michael Cooney's bushy beard is a recent development.  
I had never seen him with one before.


#34 of 34 by anderyn on Wed Dec 9 19:04:24 1998:

Okay, I'm going to tell folks to see Billy Bragg there tomorrow night.
Thurs. the 10th.... I prolly won't get to go, but here's why I say 
you should go...
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ate: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 00:54:00 -0600
From: Mickey Ferguson <mickey@eden.com>
Subject: Bloody Brilliant Billy Bragg!

Twila,

By the gods, that was a rockin' show! :-) I can't think of a time in 
recent memory when I've been *this* uplifted and zinged from a night of 
music.  It was sooooo cool. (there doesn't seem to be enough 
superlatives in me 
vocabulary tonight :| )


He started off with "World Turned Upside Down" and "St. Swithin's Day" &
"Saturday Boy" ('I don't want to change the world....) all solo with 
just his hook-ended petite electric. Two of my favorites, right off the 
bat.

<you'll have to forgive me; I'm still shaking from the Experience; 
didn't get the time to scratch all the songs down, either, so this is 
from my
memory>

 There was lotz of crazy political-driven banter and good-natured 
compliments on Austin --- he called it a great place for a 
laundry-stop!--- His fourth time to be in town this year. He was joined 
by Ian McLagan (our own adopted son & keyboard genius) for some songs 
off of "Workers Playtime" ... first off with "Must I Paint You a 
Picture" which is *such* a brilliant song with a lovely Hammond organ 
donated by Mc --- they also threw in a little of "She's Got a New Spell"

Then the 'bouncing blokes' came out: Ben _somebody_ playing a loud 
little steeel guitar; drums all over the place, bass was stoic and 
strong, an amazing Eastern mandolin and electric banjo-thingy and 
backing vocals, too & of course, Ian McLagan on the Hammond B3 & 
keyboards. They proceeded to smoke through lots of songs on the latest 
album: She Came Along to Me (a feminist start sounded *great* really 
different than the album [backed by
Wilco on the CD of course]) Eisler on the Go; Christ for 
President(insert hilarious Clinton banter <here>); "I Guess I Planted"; 
and then, such a completely wonderful version of the big hit, 
"California Stars" different style, and rhythm was *exactly* what I 
needed to make the song fresh for me.

All of the new songs were different than the recorded versions, like 
utterly so. Wonderful.

Then The Blokes left *to check their e-mail*, and Billy & Mc played 
"Tank Park Salute" which had me tearing up. ;-) and, um (hazy memory 
here) oh yeah(how could I forget) "A Lover Sings"

there was prolly lots more that I'm forgetting in here...'twas a
*jam*-packed affair

The first call-back was for "Ingrid Bergman" and two new ones from the
archives of Woody Guthrie (didn't know all this before...songs were 
written with Nora, Woody's daughter and Arlo's sister, there are over 
2600 songs in the archives. None of the music was ever recorded.  When 
Billy recorded "Mermaid Ave" he also cut 40 other tracks that *are on 
their way to your CD players* The entire band played another of these 
fantastic songs, "My Flying Saucer" which Woody described the tempo as 
"supersonic boogie" the inscription on the lyric (written in L.A.) was 
something like *to Mamma, in NYC, 3500 miles away* -- like he was 
hitchin' a ride! :) and all this in 1951! Billy said he was convinced 
that, had Woody not become ill, he would have gone electric at the 
Newport FF in 19*5*5, instead of Dylan's 1965 electrification.) another 
song ahead of it's time when written was something about kicking the 
Fascists out, and that had a whole lot of Pinochet talk associated with 
it.

The band played, "Waiting For the Great Leap Forwards" and of course 
Billy had all new politics to espouse in that one, too. Managed to say 
something about the salamanders in Barton Springs Pool, too :-) He's 
really a brilliant performer. The adjective just *fits* him so well.

The big finale encore that wouldn't end (the band kept ducking out and 
then Billy would run back on stage and start it all over) was "Way Over 
Yonder in the Minor Key" which is soooo country on the album (the guys 
at work absolutely *loathe* the line "Ain't No Body Who Kin Sing Like 
Me" but with the band, it was middle eastern, electro-techno-funky and 
some distortion banjo thrown in there, but Ian McLagan's smokin' 
keyboards really topped it all off.


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