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Item 113: Scandinavian Folk & Roots Music

Entered by krj on Wed Feb 11 19:05:32 1998:

This item spins off from the world music item, I guess...  I decided to 
enter it after learning in party that Font is a Hedningarna fan.
Also, I got a couple of mailing list items which I can pass along to 
Twila:
41 responses total.

#1 of 41 by krj on Wed Feb 11 19:07:21 1998:

From: Mattias Mattsson <Mattias.Mattsson@icast.com>
To: hedningarna@cdt.luth.se, kari@zengarden.fi
Subject: Sanna Kurki-Suonio

Hi All,

This email has been lying around in my mailbox for some time now
and I finally got around to share it with you:

>
> Hi there,
> Just to inform you that we (Zen Garden Records) have signed SANS, the
> new group fronted by Sanna Kurki-Suonio - known from Headningarna.
> They've been in studio and the first single or Ep will be out on March.
> All the best,
> Kari Hynninen



#2 of 41 by krj on Sat Mar 14 21:19:23 1998:

I haven't had any luck in learning any about Sanna's new project.
The web pages for Zen Garden Records in Finland seem to be rather 
static.
 
The two brilliant Hedningarna albums, KAKSI and TRA, get their
long-awaited USA release on Tuesday.  I expect to become quite
tiresome on the subject.  I'm playing KAKSI right now at roof-shaking
volume; six years on and I'm still madly in love with it.


#3 of 41 by krj on Mon Aug 10 05:23:44 1998:

The Northside label, which is issuing all sorts of interesting 
Scandinavian folk'n'roots music for an American audience, has a 
new CD sampler out called NORDIC ROOTS.  Twila mentioned to me that 
Borders has restocked it; they also have it in a play station, so 
you can check it out before you invest the mammoth sum of $3 in it.
20 tracks, 78 minutes, $3; I think almost every track is worthwhile, 
but then I already own about half of the albums....  anyway, if you 
are at all curious about this stuff, here's a great opportunity 
to get a taste.


#4 of 41 by mcnally on Mon Aug 10 21:32:49 1998:

  Hmmm..  For $3 that certainly sounds worth a listen..


#5 of 41 by anderyn on Wed Aug 12 03:55:58 1998:

Oh it is. Fantastic. I had several of the albums, too, but it's a great
compilation. 

Vasen is coming to the Ark in September.


#6 of 41 by mcnally on Fri Aug 14 05:58:05 1998:

  Bought the sampler and like it reasonably well on first listen --
  a little bit more Scandinavian folk music than I'm ready for in
  one sitting just yet but I can see why krj likes Hedningarna,
  their tracks stood out to me as fairly interesting even at first
  liten, I liked their mix of obviously traditional styles with modern
  influences.  I'm not sure I'll ever flip over them the way krj has
  but now that their albums are apparently (reasonably) available in
  the U.S. I may have to check one out.. 

  Recommendations?


#7 of 41 by anderyn on Fri Aug 14 19:26:35 1998:

Kaksi is my fave. It is the one with the two women vocalists and is
more accesible than Tra. Hippjok doesn't have the women singers, 
but it's got jojking on it.


#8 of 41 by orinoco on Sat Aug 15 17:50:36 1998:

(clueless question - what is 'jojking'?)


#9 of 41 by krj on Sat Aug 15 21:51:01 1998:

"joiking" (spelling seems to vary) is a Sami (Lapp) style of 
improvisational singing.  That's the best I can do off the top of my head.
 
As for the Hedningarna CDs:  KAKSI, the first one with the two women 
singers, I just love to death: I played it literally every day for six 
months after I got it.  It's one of the perfect albums.  
TRA, the other album with the women singers, is more complex in places
and has some great tracks, but isn't perfect.
 
But since I have to go visit Mike anyway to pick up a CD he bought for 
me, I should just bring over one or both of these so he can borrow them
for a bit.


#10 of 41 by anderyn on Sun Aug 16 00:47:58 1998:

And of course therre's the American compilation which has stuff from 
KAKSI and TRA on it. It's maybe not perfect, but it's a nice intro.


#11 of 41 by krj on Sun Aug 16 05:14:28 1998:

(That Hedningarna compilation was FIRE, on Sony/Tristar.  It was 
utterly unpromoted -- Schoolkids, which usually stocks world music 
stuff, never got a copy -- and is now out of print.)


#12 of 41 by anderyn on Sun Aug 16 20:13:01 1998:

But Borders did get copies, which is weird.
So did Tower.


#13 of 41 by krj on Tue Sep 1 20:11:17 1998:

Elderly Instruments's catalog lists a new Varttina cd, VIHMA.
I thought I had read that Sari Kaskinen has left the band, and she 
was sort of its guiding spirit, so I have no idea what to expect here.


#14 of 41 by krj on Mon Sep 21 02:58:02 1998:

Vasen, The Ark, Sunday September 20:
Nice show; almost a chamber folk sort of ensemble, although that may 
be too polite a description for them.  Instrumental lineup: 
a conventional fiddle, a nyckelharpa (keyed fiddle), percussion and 
guitar.  There were a lot of the long loping melody lines which 
characterize Swedish folk music.  I suspect the drummer was Sami:
partially from the dress, partially from the Native American feeling
that a lot of the percussion had.


#15 of 41 by anderyn on Mon Sep 21 17:26:10 1998:

Hhmmmm. Yeah, that might make a lot of sense (that the drummer was
Sami) -- I actually *blush* thought he was a girl throughout, since I 
only saw him from the side and sitting down, and I took the hair 
feathers to be a weird kerchief until I saw him up close. 

For me, it was a very nice show -- I liked it a lot more than I thought 
I would -- since I usually don't enjoy totally instrumental bands, this
was a surprise, but I didn't even get bored in the middle of some of 
the longer songs. I *really* liked the drumming, and the odd other-
worldly effects he got out of his set-up, and I also liked the nyckel-
harpa quite a bit. Very effective.  



#16 of 41 by krj on Fri Jan 15 22:45:38 1999:

I just got promotional e-mail from the Northside Records people.
They announce the new Hedningarna album for US release on February 23.


#17 of 41 by krj on Fri Feb 19 00:55:07 1999:

I just got even more promotional e-mail from the Northside Records
people.  
 
They are hosting a "Nordic Roots Music Festival" in Minneapolis, 
April 1-4, 1999.  
 
Northside is bringing in most of the Scandinavian bands which they license
and which I love:  Hedningarna, Vasen, Troka, Garmarna, Hoven Droven
are the big ones.  It's going to be like a Scandinavian Woodstock.
They are going to premiere a dance theatre piece based on 
Hedningarna's album TRA; I've been reading about that for a while, they 
hope to make it a Swedish "Riverdance."
 
Oh, my.  I am tempted.


#18 of 41 by anderyn on Wed Mar 3 03:30:23 1999:

Well, on the same day that I got "From Dublin to Dakar", I also got
Hedningarna's latest "Karelia Visa". It has two women vocalists (Sanna
and someone whose name I can't recall, but she's good...) and the usual
male lineup. It's very very good, a bit less experimental than Tra or
Hippjok in that the songs are presented "straight", and the liner notes
mention that they'd learned the songs originally from books and now they had
managed to travel to Karelia, and hear the way the traditional singers 
sang them, and that they were honoring that. There is still the intricate
harmony between the two women, and still the same mix of instruments, as 
far as I can tell, but the singing seems to be paramount. Much less jazz-
influenced, as well. I like it quite a bit, tough "Kaksi!" is still my
favourite Hedningarna album, simply because it was such a revelation when
I first heard it.


#19 of 41 by krj on Sun Mar 14 19:18:57 1999:

I've only played "Karelia Visa" a couple of times.  I'm still trying 
to get over my crushed expectations.  "Karelia Visa" is a wonderful
album, lots of great singing, and if it had been recorded by any 
other Scandinavian band I'd be delighted with it.  
 
But Hedningarna have jettisoned so much of what I loved about the 
band in the albums KAKSI and TRA: the edge, the drive, the electric 
guitars, the bagpipes, the furious percussion.  
No one is going to mistake "Karelia Visa" for a rock album.


#20 of 41 by orinoco on Sun Mar 14 22:08:05 1999:

Recently I heard a few songs from a band by the name of Komedia, from
"someplace in Scandinavia".  I wouldn't call them "roots music" exactly, but
I was wondering if any of you knew anything about them.


#21 of 41 by krj on Thu Mar 18 19:42:58 1999:

Sounds like the answer is "no."  Have you done any web searching?


#22 of 41 by orinoco on Thu Mar 18 21:39:46 1999:

No, I haven't... I'll try that.


#23 of 41 by krj on Tue Oct 12 01:42:17 1999:

Here's a prod to ask Twila to write something about last month's Frifot
show at the Ark.  I skipped it because I was just in a grumpy mood
that night, and then a week later the new issue of FOLK ROOTS magazine
arrived with Frifot on the cover, and a glowing article inside...
and Saturday night at the Roberts/Barrand show, the house PA was 
playing the Frifot CD before and after the concert, and it was very fine.
Sigh.


#24 of 41 by anderyn on Sun Oct 17 22:41:10 1999:

Hi! Well, hmmmm. What to say? They were even more glowing in person,
though I don't think there were seventeen whole people in the audience, and
at least two of us were journalists. The cow-calling song rang from the
rafters, the cow-horn playing (which sounded very much like a bombarde, but
also was played very like a saxophone) was cool, and the other traditional
instruments were played well. I think Bruce was dreading it, as Ken knows,
he dislikes my collection of Scandinavian music, but he loved it. He said that
they sounded like a mixture of Celtic and Russian music, which is reasonably
true.


#25 of 41 by krj on Mon Oct 18 19:06:44 1999:

Only 17 people in the audience?  Argh.  Now I *really* regret not going.
Thanks, Twila.


#26 of 41 by krj on Thu Oct 28 21:30:27 1999:

Two new collections to note for Twila and maybe others.
The first is a collection from the Institute for Folk Music which is 
part of Finland's Sibelius Academy.  I think it's called "Finnish 
Folk Song Through The Ages."  It includes two tracks each from 
Hedningarna singers Sanna and Tellu, plus two more by the all-woman
group Me Naiset, plus a bunch of other stuff.
 
The second is a second promotional sampler from the Northside label, 
which has been flooding the market with contemporary Scandinavian issues.
I hope *somebody* is buying their output, they are putting out more 
than I can keep up with.  Anyway, the new compilation is called 
NORDIC ROOTS 2 and it should sell for $3 or $4.


#27 of 41 by mcnally on Thu Oct 28 21:57:09 1999:

  The first "Nordic Root" compilation had some good stuff on it..  For $4
  I'll probably check out the second one, too, although my purchases so
  far have been limited to a Hedningarna album or two -- basically I liked,
  but not enough to go out and buy a bunch..


#28 of 41 by otaking on Fri Oct 29 12:39:23 1999:

I've only bought a few used Northside albums, since my funds are rather
limited. I'll definitely pick up NORDIC ROOTS 2 though.


#29 of 41 by anderyn on Tue Nov 9 15:46:40 1999:

I think I have more Northside Recordings than are good for my budget. Grin.


#30 of 41 by krj on Fri Apr 28 00:53:34 2000:

JPP & Vasen, The Ark, April 26 2000:
 
This was the truncated version of the Nordic Nights 2000 tour; 
fiddler Annbjorg Lien and her band were also touring with JPP and Vasen,
but for some arcane reason they needed to be in New York last night.
 
JPP is a Finnish fiddle band who I've been aware of for quite a few 
years.  Four fiddles, upright bass and a harmonium.  I think I felt 
this was a little too much fiddling for my tastes, but Leslie like it
quite a lot -- said it was very symphonic -- and she was the one who 
was motivated to buy the JPP CD.
 
Vasen I liked better with their more varied textures: nyckleharpa 
(keyed fiddle), viola, guitar and percussion.  Lots of the long loping
rhythms which they seem to share with the music of Hedningarna and 
Hoven Droven.

At the end of the night, both bands came on stage: ten musicians, 
six of them playing fiddles or variants.  Some nice tunes, some of 
which swept into breathtaking loud passages.

Addendum to my resp:14 about the previous Vasen concert:
it appears the Vasen percussionist is of Italian descent, not Sami!!!


#31 of 41 by arabella on Fri Apr 28 22:18:55 2000:

Yeah, given the name of Andrea Ferrari, and the handsome looks of
an Italian waiter, I can't imagine him being of Sami descent.



#32 of 41 by iggy on Sat Jul 1 00:58:33 2000:

i have many of the albums already talked about, plus i have
the solo project from sanna kurki-suonio called 'musta'.
i read the lyrics ahead of time, and was very excited about the
overtly heathen/pagan influence.
but once i played it, i was a bit disappointed with al but 2 songs.
<polska release, and johda mua>
the album had so much potential, but came off kind of wimpy.
she even did a cover of the tuuli song from TRA renamed on
here as 'TUULEN NOSTATUS' which came in a poor second to the
hedningarna version she was on with wimme.

i would recommend getting 'wizard women of the north' which has a
lot of high energy shrieking in it, as well as some instrumentals.
tellu has a few songs on it also.

songs from the cold seas, arranged by hector zazou is kind of interesting.
actuall, i like it.. but i am not real fond of the jazz overlay on
many of the songs.


#33 of 41 by mcnally on Wed Jul 5 18:57:51 2000:

  They should put a promotional sticker with "high energy shrieking"
  on the collection you mention -- I bet it would just fly out the door..


#34 of 41 by iggy on Sat Jul 8 13:27:21 2000:

a friend of mine is going to be in sweden, and i told her to
look for a particular album for me.
it is 'suden aika' by tellu.
i liked her contribution to 'wizard women'. i tried to get it here in
the states, but no luck.  northside didnt have it either.


#35 of 41 by anderyn on Mon Jul 10 23:17:13 2000:

It was around in Ann Arbor. I know I have a copy.

Great news! Hedningarna is going to be in Detroit in September. I am
definitely geeked.


#36 of 41 by krj on Wed Jul 12 02:26:35 2000:

The Tellu album never appeared in Ann Arbor, Twila, I'm pretty sure I 
got a copy for you.  Iggy, take a look at www.digelius.com, which is 
a Finnish firm specializing in exporting this music to the west.  
I have not yet tried ordering anything from them, but there is a second
Tellu album I want to get.

I used to get this sort of thing from ADA in the U.K., but that company
has changed hands recently and I haven't seen how they are after the 
shakeup.


#37 of 41 by iggy on Fri Jul 14 22:12:23 2000:

got an english translation of the song manaus by tellu?


#38 of 41 by krj on Fri Aug 11 22:49:48 2000:

I tend not to worry about song translations, iggy, so I probably 
do not have one for you.
 
I tried to find some information about the Detroit Festival of the Arts,
the organization which is sponsoring Hedningarna's appearance in 
Detroit next month.  I could find nothing on this year's festival on
the web; don't they know it's 2000 already?
 
The week after their Detroit appearance, Hedningarna is scheduled 
to do a show at the Old Town School of Folk Music in Chicago.
At least I know where *that* is; I can always drive to Chicago if
I can't get more information about the Detroit appearance.


#39 of 41 by krj on Fri Aug 11 22:56:50 2000:

There's a nice article from 1996 about Tellu at:
http://www.rootsworld.com/rs/finland/tellu.html


#40 of 41 by iggy on Tue Aug 15 19:57:20 2000:

thanks
i will check that out


#41 of 41 by krj on Thu Jan 18 03:45:04 2001:

Frifot, The Ark, January 17 2001:
 
Ale Moller on mandola and a variety of whistle-like things; Lena Willemark
on fiddle, octave fiddle (looks like a viola to me); Per Gumundsen on 
fiddle, and bagpipe for one tune.  If I was looking for a quick 
description, it would be chamber folk, though I'm not sure that applies
when Lena backs up to the rear of the stage and lets loose with the 
vocal technique for calling the cows back from the next valley.
There's a familiar Scandinavian feeling to much of the instrumental 
stuff, though it's much more restrained than Hedningarna.
 
Frifot's previous visit to the ark was discussed in resp:23 & resp:24.
Ale Moller made a cryptic reference to the poor turnout last time; 
this show pulled maybe 150 people, much improved.


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