Grex Kitchen Conference

Item 61: Gadgets and Gizmos

Entered by denise on Sun Dec 19 14:49:38 1993:

37 new of 205 responses total.


#169 of 205 by keesan on Mon May 12 23:39:30 2008:

Cooked rice does not grow on trees.


#170 of 205 by tod on Tue May 13 00:07:14 2008:

Neither do spastic colons.


#171 of 205 by keesan on Tue May 13 00:35:00 2008:

Do nonspastic colons?
Pressure cooked rice gets very thoroughly cooked.  With brown rice we add 1.3
cups water per cup of rice.  White rice would probably be less.  If you cook
with more water, the rest of it goes into the air along with wasted heat.


#172 of 205 by tod on Tue May 13 02:21:53 2008:

re #171
How long does that take?  Do you use a pressure cooker pot on a stove?


#173 of 205 by keesan on Tue May 13 02:38:49 2008:

Maybe 5 minutes to come to pressure, then 5 to come down?  I never timed it.
It is does before the rest of the meal.  Yes pressure cooker on stove.  We
also have one large electric pressure cooker which is more efficient but too
large (nuisance to clean).  We have at least 10 pressure cookers of various
sizes and designs, and take a small one bike camping with us.  I wonder if
we could cook oatmeal in it (dont' let the pressure come up too far).


#174 of 205 by void on Tue May 13 05:32:07 2008:

What the hell kind of rice cooker causes steam to condense on windows,
puddle on sills, and rot the house frame???


#175 of 205 by jadecat on Tue May 13 13:59:54 2008:

I dunno, but I do know that in the winter, when the air is very dry in
our apartment- a little steam only does good things. We tend to use the
'pot on the stove' method of rice making though- not a specific rice
steamer...


#176 of 205 by keesan on Tue May 13 15:54:29 2008:

Our house is well sealed, and adding steam to the air causes problems.
Our highest January heating bill was $60 (electric).  DO the rest of you not
believe in global warming or just not personally want to do anything about
it?  Some friends put in a geothermal heating system at great expense but
never insulated or weatherstripped and they now pay $180 in January for heat.


#177 of 205 by edina on Tue May 13 16:25:22 2008:

WTF Sindi?  The occasional use of a rice cooker is going to top the
balance?


#178 of 205 by tod on Tue May 13 16:45:38 2008:

re #176
My electric bill in Jan was about $60, too.  I do my part for low carbon
footprint but I also have to do my part for low mildew in rainforest climate.
I'm betting the cooking we do at home(rice rarely) is way more efficient
time, money, energy than restaurant or frozen microwavable.


#179 of 205 by keesan on Tue May 13 18:56:17 2008:

I am pointing out that there are multiple reasons to cook efficiently.
Seattle does not typically go to -10F in January.  Tod, do you cook things
in tightly sealed pots?  I agree that taking a car to a restaurant wastes far
more fuel that even boiling a lot of water off rice into the air.


#180 of 205 by jadecat on Tue May 13 19:10:27 2008:

My electric bill in the winter was about $30.

Our gas bill was higher, but that's divided up between all the units in
the building.

Sindi- some of us also live in apartments that are run by corporations
that REALLY frown on tenants making their own changes to the apartments.
So we do what we can. 

And for goodness sake, we're not talking about THAT much steam! It's a
rice cooker, not a steam engine.


#181 of 205 by remmers on Tue May 13 19:26:25 2008:

Um, we got a console model rice cooker that sits on the floor, is about
4 feet high and 3 feet across, and weighs 200 pounds.  Whenever we use
it, all the windows fog up, the walls get wet, and the neighborhood
experiences brownouts from the electricity consumption.  If we run it 
with the windows open, the weather bureau issues a local dense fog
warning.

None of these wimpy table model rice cookers for us!






Oops, almost forgot:  :)


#182 of 205 by edina on Tue May 13 19:39:15 2008:

John Remmers, kicking it hard core.


#183 of 205 by tod on Tue May 13 19:53:50 2008:

re #179
 Tod, do you cook things
 in tightly sealed pots?

I haven't entertained the idea of a pressure cooker in my house simply for
safety reasons.  In the 80's, a friend of mine suffered major burns when
the pressure cooker where he worked (Big Boy's on 9mile in St.Clair Shores)
exploded.  The risk doesn't seem equitable to energy savings.  Perhaps the
new stovetop pressure cookers are better these days?


#184 of 205 by slynne on Tue May 13 20:43:53 2008:

One thing I will mention even though it doesnt have much to do with
kitchen gizmos is that people should pay attention to their reactions
regarding Sindi's comments about how cooking inefficiently is
contributing to global warming. 

That is why expecting people to change any of their habits out of the
good ness of their heart is never going to work. You have to make policy
that forces them to change their habits. Rice cookers probably dont use
enough energy to really come into play here but I'll bet that if it cost
5 cents to cook rice with a pressure cooker and $5 to cook rice with a
rice cooker, a lot of people would switch to using pressure cookers. 



#185 of 205 by tod on Tue May 13 20:51:41 2008:

I'm intrigued simply because my rice cooker works like crap when it cooks
brown/basmati rice.  If I can do it in the same time as white rice by using
a pressure cooker then I'm interested.  I would need assurances that a
pressure cooker isn't going to harm someone, though.


#186 of 205 by edina on Tue May 13 21:25:28 2008:

I love that....I won't make changes out of the goodness of my heart. 
Just because I use my rice cooker maybe once a month I am somehow
condemning the earth.  Nevermind my avid recyclying/reusing or other
things we have done to our home to make it more energy efficient.  Next
you'll be telling my not owning a pressure cooker is me buying into a
patriarchal conspiracy.

I don't use a pressure cooker because A) I don't own one and B) I try to
not own a ton of stuff in my kitchen.  I hate being cluttered in my
kitchen.  I have considered getting a pressure cooker simply because I
love watching them get used on Iron Chef.  But I'm not there yet.


#187 of 205 by keesan on Tue May 13 21:34:19 2008:

We have been pressure cooking for 30 years or so and never had an accident.
We have pressure cookers from the 50s and later.  It is the ones from the 40s
that were not working right.  They are by far the easiest (not just the
fastest) way to cook grains and beans (it helps to presoak the beans but it
not necessary).  Or even potatoes.  We use the special weights that show
pressure (5 10 15 lb) and potatoes need 5 lb, brown rice and beans 15 lb.
Brown rice takes much longer to cook than white rice.  Probably the rice
steamers assume white rice, you add the amount of water that corresponds to
the 20 min it takes to cook rice (it takes 20 min to boil off then the cooker
senses that the temperature has gone up and turns of).  YOu could try adding
twice the water for brown rice.

Pressure cookers do not burn things because they cook mainly with steam, not
just with bottom heat.  My mother used hers for potroasts.  

We tried a microwave rice cooker which took much longer than pressure cookers.


#188 of 205 by tod on Tue May 13 21:55:01 2008:

Where can I find pressure cookers which use weights?  Or is it better to use
the electronic ones with auto shutoff?


#189 of 205 by slynne on Wed May 14 01:19:41 2008:

resp:186 That is my point. *everyone* thinks what they are doing is
reasonable. I know I sure think that I am doing my part. And no...using
a rice cooker is not especially harmful to the environment. And fwiw, I
use the stove top method which is probably the least efficient. Anyways,
I seriously doubt that even the highest energy taxes in the land would
deter someone using a rice cooker since they just dont use that much
energy. But think about how you feel when someone suggests to you that
you should give up the rice cooker. That is how some folks feel about
their SUVs. Guilt will not get them to stop buying them just like no
amount of guilt will stop anyone in this conversation from cooking rice
in the way that works best for them. 


#190 of 205 by tod on Wed May 14 07:57:57 2008:

We made a big pot of rice last night in the rice cooker and I was sure to
towel off the windows and sills while wearing hipwaders.  ;)


#191 of 205 by mary on Wed May 14 12:41:54 2008:

http://tinyurl.com/6gr9b3

You want my rice cooker? You're going to have to pry that baby from my 
cold dead hands.


#192 of 205 by tod on Wed May 14 19:03:55 2008:

From my cold dead chubby fingers!

Look a nice one with a dial setting (instead of weights)
http://tinyurl.com/4qsand


#193 of 205 by slynne on Wed May 14 23:23:29 2008:

Yeah, you would have to pry my rice cooker from my fingers too!

http://www.clearwaterbeachkiku.com/images/ImgLeft_About.jpg



#194 of 205 by edina on Wed May 14 23:56:03 2008:

hahahahahah!!!!


#195 of 205 by mary on Thu May 15 01:20:52 2008:

Good one, Lynne!


#196 of 205 by tod on Thu May 15 05:33:56 2008:

re #193
Why does that guy have my thong on his head?


#197 of 205 by void on Thu May 22 06:04:02 2008:

Dang.  I guess I'll have to quit cooking my rice on a pile of burning
car tires.  I'm really going to miss that special smoky tang.  


#198 of 205 by omni on Fri Aug 29 17:59:09 2008:



#199 of 205 by mary on Sat Dec 13 14:55:44 2008:

I got a new gadget - a milk frother for quick and dirty caps at home.  
Nuke a little milk with or without flavoring.  Froth for 20 seconds.  Pour 
coffee through.  Enjoy.

It works.

http://tinyurl.com/5w4evp


#200 of 205 by keesan on Sat Dec 13 16:44:40 2008:

You put milk into your dirty capacitors?  Does it fix the bulging problem?


#201 of 205 by mary on Sat Dec 13 16:46:38 2008:

Every time.  Almost.


#202 of 205 by keesan on Sat Dec 13 16:52:53 2008:

Is there some additional ingredient you need to add to them?  Hot glue?


#203 of 205 by slynne on Sun Dec 14 15:38:13 2008:

resp:199 That looks almost exactly like a gadget a friend of mine used
to bring on backpacking trips - to stir koolaid. It is kind of an in
joke but we have a mutual friend who is both into backpacking and into
gadgets. He always made a point to pack as lightly as possible but would
also almost always bring one fancy made for backpacking gadget. My
friend with the koolaid stirrer (which may have really been a milk
frother) would always try to also bring a gadget on every trip except he
would try to make his as useless as possible in order to tease our other
friend. 


#204 of 205 by mary on Sun Dec 14 16:05:28 2008:

Boy, your friends go for the jugular, eh? ;-)


#205 of 205 by slynne on Sun Dec 14 18:53:53 2008:

Yeah. That same friend with the stirrer once went out and bought a $400
tent which made the other friend rather jealous. Once the first friend
realized that, he started setting up his tent in his living room and
talking about it all of the time to the gadget head friend. The gadget
head friend was really excited to see it in action so to speak. Then,
when they next went camping together the guy with the nice tent brought
his $15 K-Mart pup tent and said that the $400 tent was too nice to use
outside ;)


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