Grex Kitchen Conference

Item 151: what am i, part iv

Entered by void on Tue Jan 13 07:02:54 1998:

277 new of 610 responses total.


#334 of 610 by alfee on Mon Oct 26 20:34:21 1998:

Salad croutons?


#335 of 610 by remmers on Tue Oct 27 23:44:00 1998:

Not croutons, but you're warmer...


#336 of 610 by keesan on Wed Oct 28 15:08:49 1998:

breadcrumbs?


#337 of 610 by alfee on Thu Oct 29 01:52:41 1998:

Ooh, that's a good one.


#338 of 610 by lilmo on Mon Nov 2 03:04:10 1998:

How's about stuffing mix?


#339 of 610 by remmers on Mon Nov 2 05:01:15 1998:

Keesan has it in #336 - it's breadcrumbs. The nutrition facts
were from a box of Progresso seasoned breadcrumbs.


#340 of 610 by keesan on Tue Nov 3 19:22:27 1998:

We have nothing else in the house with a nutrition label besides oil and
vinegar, so I will resort to my nutrition textbook's appendix.
This is something I am eating at the moment, but did not come commercially
packaged in my case.  1 oz, 28 g, 7% water, 154 kcal
protein 7 g
carb 5.1 g
fiber 1.54 g
fat 13 g
sat fat 2.46 g
mono 4.05 g
poly 9 g
chol 0 (we are vegans)
calc 12 mg
iron 4.25 mg
magn 152 mg
phos 333 mg
pota 229 mg
sodi 5 mg
zinc 2.12 mg
VT-A (vitamin A) 11 RE
thia .06 mg
ribo .09 mg
niac .50 mg
B6 .06 mg
fola 26 mg
Vit C trace
This is a seasonal food.  Should be easy to guess.


#341 of 610 by keesan on Mon Nov 9 20:52:34 1998:

This should be very easy to guess, especially if you have been reading other
items.  What has no cholesterol, lots of fat and fiber, and is eaten one ounce
at a time?  And is seasonal?


#342 of 610 by remmers on Tue Nov 10 12:04:08 1998:

Whatever it is has 7 gm of protein too. There aren't too many
vegetable foods with a nutrition profile like that. Too much
fat for tofu, though...  <remmers ponders>


#343 of 610 by keesan on Tue Nov 10 22:51:40 1998:

Tofu has a lot more water.


#344 of 610 by valerie on Thu Nov 12 15:25:13 1998:

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#345 of 610 by keesan on Thu Nov 12 22:51:22 1998:

No. But they do fit all my clues and we have a lot of them.  Chestnuts are,
I think, mostly carbohydrate rather than fat.


#346 of 610 by keesan on Mon Nov 16 19:48:03 1998:

Someone please name all the seasonal foods for this month.


#347 of 610 by i on Tue Nov 17 01:57:59 1998:

Pumpkin, cranberries, turkey, "yams", perhaps various sorts of nuts,
>next, please< 


#348 of 610 by keesan on Wed Nov 18 23:09:12 1998:

The answer is in one of those things you listed.


#349 of 610 by i on Thu Nov 19 01:02:26 1998:

Pumpkin seeds, cranberry seeds, turkey innards, or am i taking your "in"
too literally?


#350 of 610 by keesan on Thu Nov 19 18:58:33 1998:

Nope, you got it (the first guess).  This delicacy was being discussed in
detail in another item at the time I chose it.  Turkey innards have
cholesterol.  Seeds don't.
I told you this one was easy.


#351 of 610 by i on Fri Nov 20 02:10:28 1998:

Trust keesan to be eating unsalted pumpkin seeds! 

5 demerits for i for not checking on the cholesterol in #340.

Anyone else want to enter a mystery food?


#352 of 610 by keesan on Fri Nov 20 23:52:50 1998:

Vegans don't eat a lot of cholesterol.  We cook our own seeds, no salt needed.
I really tried hard to make this one easy.


#353 of 610 by remmers on Sat Nov 21 11:44:39 1998:

Since cholesterol is found only in animal products, I'd think
that vegans eat zero cholesterol.


#354 of 610 by i on Sat Nov 21 20:24:35 1998:

Last i knew, keesan (and Jim) would occasionally eat ovo-lacto stuff
(cholesterol, not that turkey innards qualify).  I've talked to a
number of vegans who are (or claim to be) far more interested in the 
"no exploiting or abusing animals" aspect than in non-consumption of
animal products.  Some of them come across as willing to try steak & 
eggs at a farmer's dinner table if they knew & approved of the way 
that Buttercup & the hens were treated......

#include <drift.h>

#include <drift.c> 

Anyone interested in entering a new mystery food? 


#355 of 610 by keesan on Tue Nov 24 04:15:41 1998:

Jim is trying not to abuse the planet.


#356 of 610 by omni on Tue Nov 24 08:13:32 1998:

  I'll enter something by midnight tommorow. Get your thinking caps out, 
I promise you that it will not be easy.


#357 of 610 by omni on Wed Nov 25 06:58:50 1998:

  OK get out your thinking caps.

  Serving size 8oz
  _________________
  Servings per container-2

   Calories 140  From Fat 0

   Total Fat 0
   Sodium   35
   Total Carb 38g 
      Sugars 38g
   Protein    0g
   Vitamin C  100%


  Good luck kiddies.


#358 of 610 by remmers on Wed Nov 25 12:19:22 1998:

Frozen orange juice?


#359 of 610 by keesan on Wed Nov 25 20:08:23 1998:

Sugar with Vit C added and maybe some flavoring.  Koolaid?  Or some other
premixed sugar-water drink.


#360 of 610 by omni on Wed Nov 25 20:19:36 1998:

 remmers is in the neighborhood.

 No, it is NOT kool-aid. 


#361 of 610 by keesan on Fri Nov 27 17:05:12 1998:

Orange juice or any other real juice does not have 100% of any vitamin, this
looks like they added some exact amount.  Or else the 100% figure is wrong.
I have seen apple juice with Vit C added.


#362 of 610 by omni on Sat Nov 28 10:02:14 1998:

  Well this could go on for years, but essentially remmers got it.
It's cranberry uice.

 take it rembo.


#363 of 610 by remmers on Sat Nov 28 11:39:06 1998:

Oh no! 

(Actually, I've given my share recently, I think. If somebody wants to
jump in with a new puzzler, please feel free. If nobody does, and I
haven't completely forgotten about it, maybe I'll post something in a
few days...)


#364 of 610 by i on Sun Jan 17 02:22:35 1999:

Serving size:  2 Tbsp, about 5 per container
Calories:  30
Total Fat:  0g  0%
Sodium:  20mg  1%
Total Carb.:  6g  2%
Fiber:  1g  6%
Sugars:  3g
Protein:  2g
Vitamin A:  10%    Vitamin C:  10%   Calcium:  0%   Iron:  0%


#365 of 610 by remmers on Sun Jan 17 13:16:57 1999:

(Hm, almost 2 months between my resp:363 and i's poser in resp:364
so I guess I completely forgot about it...)

That's a pretty tiny serving size - 2 Tbsp. Suggests some kind of
sauce or topping. Or maybe powdered drink mix. (I'm not guessing
at this stage, just thinking out loud.)


#366 of 610 by i on Sun Jan 17 19:28:36 1999:

<i figured it was about time for a resurrection attempt & a label was handy>


#367 of 610 by keesan on Mon Jan 18 04:48:29 1999:

Chocolate tends to have fat in it, what else is half sugar?  Some sort of
drink mix with powdered milk in it?  And vitamins added?


#368 of 610 by i on Tue Jan 19 03:14:27 1999:

???  If it was getting the protein from powdered milk, they're be lots
more calcium in it.  Not sure if you think 3g of sugar in 2T is "half
sugar", or you're just noting that half the total carbo's are sugar.


#369 of 610 by keesan on Wed Jan 20 02:08:13 1999:

I will take a closer look at the nutrition facts.  (If it is nutrition
information, the can is out of date, I just learned).


#370 of 610 by keesan on Wed Jan 20 02:10:44 1999:

About 20-25% protein, and a lot of sugar, in a small container.  No fat.
Jim is thinking, hmmmm.  No ideas yet.  We can only guess the single
ingredient stuff easily.


#371 of 610 by keesan on Sun Jan 31 21:58:29 1999:

Could you let us know the number of ingredients?  Or some other hint?


#372 of 610 by i on Mon Feb 1 00:20:12 1999:

His Snordship is on the right track.  This food's nutritional profile is
mostly due to it's main ingredient.


#373 of 610 by i on Sat Feb 27 14:24:26 1999:

Hello, out there!!!  Anybody home???   :)
There's only one ingredient in this mystery food.


#374 of 610 by keesan on Sun Feb 28 02:48:49 1999:

Peanuts?  (Wild guess, but we just bought 25 pounds of them raw).
Is your ingredient whole or refined?


#375 of 610 by i on Mon Mar 1 03:16:56 1999:

No fat & little protein, so peanuts don't have much of a chance.

The ingredient is (as i would use the words) neither raw nor refined.


#376 of 610 by keesan on Mon Mar 1 22:33:11 1999:

Carbohydrates (sugar) and protein, high in vitamins A and C, 10 tbps per
container?  Some fiber.  Fruit or vegetable?  Not a seed if it has no fat,
but high in protein.  Not refined so no fat removed.  Dried potato?


#377 of 610 by i on Wed Mar 3 03:54:32 1999:

Yes, a fruit or veggie; no, not dried spuds.


#378 of 610 by keesan on Thu Mar 4 23:04:39 1999:

Beans?  What else has that much protein?  Soybeans have fat.


#379 of 610 by i on Sat Mar 6 02:15:43 1999:

Not beans.  This food is not usually considered high in protein.


#380 of 610 by keesan on Sat Mar 6 03:05:32 1999:

Half the carbohydrates are sugar, some sort of fruit?  What sort of unrefined
fruit comes in tablespoons?  No sugar added jam?  Apricot jam?  High in
vitamins A and C.  


#381 of 610 by i on Sat Mar 6 15:03:55 1999:

Not apricot nor jam.  Note how i talked around the "refined" issue in
#375.  I'd call it a fruit.


#382 of 610 by keesan on Sun Mar 7 02:06:49 1999:

Dried fruit?  Dried tomatoes?  Is sugar-added not considered refined?


#383 of 610 by i on Sun Mar 7 21:18:19 1999:

Not dried anything.  I wouldn't call sugar-added "refined"....but no
sugar has been added to this food.


#384 of 610 by keesan on Mon Mar 8 18:28:48 1999:

Fruit?


#385 of 610 by i on Tue Mar 9 01:30:06 1999:

I'd call it a fruit.


#386 of 610 by keesan on Thu Mar 11 02:01:07 1999:

Tomato?  Pepper?  Eggplant?
(Solanaceae)


#387 of 610 by i on Fri Mar 12 02:47:00 1999:

Tomato paste.


#388 of 610 by keesan on Sun Mar 14 04:27:45 1999:

Dried fruit, like I said.  We like ajvar, which is Macedonian or Bulgarian
and is a combination of cooked peppers, eggplant and tomato with spices, sort
of boiled down to thick.  Available at big market in spicy or less spicy.
If anyone else is reading this item please come up with a mystery food (and
if you want me to guess at it I do better at single ingredient stuff).
Or I will enter something interesting from an ethnic food store again.  We
just ran out of peanut oil and went shopping.

What does one do with only 2 tbps tomato paste?


#389 of 610 by i on Sun Mar 14 21:03:38 1999:

I don't think of tomato paste as a dried fruit because it's not dry.

I'd guess they figure 2T is the amount each person gets from the little
can of tomato paste after you mix it into a pot of spaghetti sauce and
serve it to your family.


#390 of 610 by keesan on Mon Mar 15 03:34:46 1999:

Jim's contribution, nutritional values are from a nutrition book:
1 cup, 175 g, 586 kcal, 20.5 g protein, 128 g carb, 15.6 g fiber, 4.2 g fat
of which .81 sat 1.4 mono 1.51 poly-unsaturated, no chol

calc 200, iron 6.7  Magn 315 Phos 494 Pota 784 Sodi 4 Zinc 4.4 (mg)

VT-A 0 Thia 1.05 Ribo .26  Niac 7.7 V-B6 .37 Fola 52 Vt-C o (mg)
(Vt-A is in RE)

We have some of this product but packaged without nutrition label.
The amount I would use for two of us is about one cup ( 2 servings).
Oh, H2O (%) 11.  For comparison chocolate milk is 82% water, meat about 50%,
yellow cake with chocolate frosting (2 layer cake) 23%, and chocolate chip
cookies home recipe only 3% and macademia nuts 2%.  Lettuce 96% water.


#391 of 610 by lilmo on Tue Apr 13 01:48:21 1999:

some kind of bulk dry breakfast cereal?


#392 of 610 by keesan on Tue Apr 13 03:30:59 1999:

We are trying to remember just what Jim's entry was.  You are close as far
as 'cereal' and 'bulk' but it needs further cooking to be eaten for breakfast,
and is generally mixed with a few other ingredients.  Not just dumped into
a bowl and milk added, or simply boiled.


#393 of 610 by lilmo on Tue Apr 13 22:53:15 1999:

is it oatmeal?


#394 of 610 by keesan on Wed Apr 14 16:54:37 1999:

No, we make oatmeal by simply boiling it.  This is not oatmeal, but it is used
similarly to a cereal=grain though technically not a grain (graminae - grass).


#395 of 610 by lilmo on Thu Apr 15 21:57:27 1999:

Can I guess again, or do I need to let someone else have a try; I think I know
what it is...


#396 of 610 by keesan on Mon Apr 26 02:07:57 1999:

Of course you can guess again, this was a dead item without your input!  Sorry
I have been too busy with computer viruses to get back to here sooner.


#397 of 610 by lilmo on Tue Apr 27 00:19:50 1999:

CORNmeal !!!  It's not a grain, but it's treated that way, often.  You might
use it to make mush, cornbread, etc.  :-)


#398 of 610 by keesan on Tue Apr 27 23:15:05 1999:

Corn is definitely a member of the graminae and thus a grain, albeit
processed into meal.  Wheat flour is also made from a grain, etc.  This is
something else made into flour that is not a true grain.  It can also be eaten
not made into flour.


#399 of 610 by lilmo on Fri Apr 30 21:22:58 1999:

Phooee.


#400 of 610 by keesan on Sun May 2 14:56:45 1999:

Think 'pancake'.  (Not phooee, not wheat, rye, corn, barley, millet, sorghum,
teff, rice, although these all make nice pancakes too).


#401 of 610 by i on Fri May 7 05:05:25 1999:

Potato flour?


#402 of 610 by keesan on Fri May 7 22:33:38 1999:

Nope, and not sweet potato or cassava flour.  BIG HINT:  the name sounds like
a grain even though this is not a grain.
(Not acorn flour, not breadfruit flour)


#403 of 610 by omni on Sat May 8 06:36:45 1999:

  How about buckwheat?


#404 of 610 by keesan on Sun May 9 00:15:41 1999:

Buckwheat it is!  One of the very few things Jim will not eat because it
leaves a metallic taste in his mouse.  He also does not eat raw radishes.


#405 of 610 by omni on Sun May 9 04:28:47 1999:

  give me a few days to find something.


#406 of 610 by keesan on Sun May 9 16:16:32 1999:

Don't tell me your cupboard is bare!


#407 of 610 by omni on Sun May 9 17:21:31 1999:

 Oh no, far from that but you know one has to be creative with this lot. It
doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that I'm going to post something
that's really mainstream, since I don't exactly subscribe to the philosophy
of veganism. I have to be super sneaky, and that, will take a few days.

<evil laugh>


#408 of 610 by keesan on Mon May 10 21:27:09 1999:

Campbell's chicken soup?


#409 of 610 by omni on Tue May 11 08:23:32 1999:

  Why are you entering a guess? I didn't post a label.

  But here is mine.

 Serving size 3 pieces
 Servings per container about 9.

Total Fat 9 grams
Saturated Fat 6 grams
Cholesterol 5 mg
Sodium 55 mg
Total Carbs 22g
  Dietary Fiber less than 1g
  Sugars 4g
Protein 1g



#410 of 610 by keesan on Wed May 12 00:55:11 1999:

Something not vegan, like you said.  5mg cholesterol.    Probably not chicken
soup unless it is restaurant sized (nine servings) and comes in pieces.  Hmmm


#411 of 610 by lilmo on Wed May 12 01:38:12 1999:

High in carbs, but not fiber or sugar, so is very starchy


#412 of 610 by omni on Wed May 12 05:37:44 1999:

  Funny, I really didn't notice the starch...



#413 of 610 by keesan on Wed May 12 16:11:44 1999:

Almost half fat, actually.  Cheese crackers? Cheese something?


#414 of 610 by omni on Thu May 13 06:39:58 1999:

  not cheese. I would never admit to eating cheese. It's terribly fatty,
smells awful and costs a lot of money. ;)


#415 of 610 by omni on Fri May 14 18:07:16 1999:

  I seem to have rendered all the great food detectives inert. 

  A clue: Life without this food would be very boring, and I wouldn't
even dream of seeing a world without it. Some people smoked it, which was
truly bizarre.


#416 of 610 by keesan on Fri May 14 21:52:45 1999:

We must lead very boring lives, as vegans do not eat cholesterol.  I cannot
imagine smoking milk, eggs, or meat (at least in a pipe - I have eaten smoked
cheese and smoked salmon).


#417 of 610 by omni on Sat May 15 07:55:26 1999:

  no milk, nor eggs, or salmon. It's not cheese either. 

  Keep a guessing.


#418 of 610 by omni on Sun May 16 16:57:14 1999:

  Methiks we need another clue. 

<omni sees the clue bus in the distance>

   When I said "Smoked" I didn't mean the kind of smoking that bacon gets,
and no, it's not bacon so don't ask.

<the clue bus leaves in a cloud of blue exhuast>


#419 of 610 by keesan on Mon May 17 02:00:02 1999:

banana skins?
(with cholesterol added)
I am afraid I am not good at guessing animal products, sorry.  Would someone
more creative please make a stab at this one?


#420 of 610 by omni on Mon May 17 06:36:28 1999:

  You have to ask yourself "Would Jim go around eating banana skins?" I think
not. I like what is inside the skins, and I usually throw my old, used skins
away, or compost them for fertilizer.
 You also have to ask "Are banana skins so good that life without them be
worth living?" If banana skins disappeared tomorrow, I wouldn't notice, nor
would I care.

  If the mystery food did that I'd probably call Dr. K.


#421 of 610 by omni on Wed May 19 04:40:49 1999:

   Yet another clue since it is apparent I'm being a little obscure.

   The name of this food is sprinkled liberally throughout this conference
and even this item. One of the users uses this as his name.

   I should add that when I am out of this particular item, I tend to get
bitchy.


#422 of 610 by keesan on Wed May 19 13:33:56 1999:

Dog food?  Not cheese.  Someone else please make a guess at this.


#423 of 610 by lilmo on Wed May 19 21:34:37 1999:

cloves


#424 of 610 by omni on Thu May 20 07:13:41 1999:

  I won't even answer 422.  I have done a lot of weird things in my life,
including eating Milk-Bones, But I don't snack on dog food. Never have never
will. 

  It is not cloves.

 Sigh.


#425 of 610 by keesan on Thu May 20 22:29:43 1999:

I was looking for a play on the word 'bitchy'.  I give up.


#426 of 610 by i on Fri May 21 02:26:23 1999:

Try the middle clue in #421.....


#427 of 610 by omni on Fri May 21 03:48:01 1999:

  You might say that the mystery food is just what the doctor ordered.

 And if that isn't enough of a clue, then I really don't know what to tell
ya.


#428 of 610 by keesan on Fri May 21 13:34:34 1999:

High-cholesterol salt?


#429 of 610 by omni on Fri May 21 17:50:53 1999:

  No. I give up. I have no more clues to give away, so I'll just tell you.

  It's Chocolate. 

  The Ancient indians in Mexico smoked it. I believ it was the Mayas, or the
Incas. The label is from Nestle Treasures with Caramel. I would definitly
feel bitchy if all chocolate disappeared from the planet.

 I was very suprised that i didn't get it, since he uses it in his name.

 I'll pass it to i.


#430 of 610 by keesan on Fri May 21 17:59:48 1999:

milk chocolate, I presume, not chocolate beans or cocoa powder.  I have never
thought of this as a necessity of life, or as something I sprinkle.


#431 of 610 by omni on Sat May 22 07:24:10 1999:

  Yup. And sometimes it's need. Sometimes I just need a big hit of chocolate
to set everything right again.


#432 of 610 by i on Mon May 31 14:49:07 1999:

Serving Size: 1/2 Cup (130g)
Servings per Container: 6
Calories: 150 (10 from fat)
Total Fat: 1g / 2%, saturated fat: 0g / 0%, no cholesterol
Sodium: 550mg / 23%
Total Carb.: 29g / 10%, dietary fiber: 7g / 28%, sugar: 5g
Protein: 7g 
Vitamin A: 0%,  Vitamin C: 0%,  Calcium: 6%,  Iron: 10% 


#433 of 610 by lilmo on Wed Jun 2 00:32:16 1999:

no cholesterol, so it's not a meat product.

REALLY high in sodium, so I almost have to guess that it's canned.

pretty good protein and iron, so I'll say it's some kind of beans.


#434 of 610 by keesan on Wed Jun 2 23:31:55 1999:

Low-fat refried beans?


#435 of 610 by i on Thu Jun 3 10:35:16 1999:

Some kind of beans, not low-fat refried.


#436 of 610 by lilmo on Thu Jun 3 23:49:23 1999:

Woo-hoo!  Are they canned?


#437 of 610 by i on Fri Jun 4 03:12:08 1999:

Yes.


#438 of 610 by gypsi on Fri Jun 11 11:53:06 1999:

Kidney beans?


#439 of 610 by lilmo on Sat Jun 12 19:21:36 1999:

baked beans?


#440 of 610 by i on Sat Jun 12 21:08:55 1999:

Bush's baked beans, lilmo's up.


#441 of 610 by lilmo on Mon Jun 28 23:41:32 1999:

Ack, I'm not at home!!  OK, I do have ONE food item with me, here goes:

Serving size 8 fl oz (240 ml)
Servings per container 3

Calories        70
Total Fat 0     0%
Sodium 55mg     2%
Potassium 30mg 1%
Total Carb 19g 6%
    Sugars 15g
Protein 0g

Not a significant source of ... (various items)


I'm going to try to be here regularly, but if I'm gone too long, feel free
to pick someone to take over.


#442 of 610 by keesan on Sat Jul 3 19:16:54 1999:

Sugar water with a bit of starch added.


#443 of 610 by happyboy on Mon Jul 5 21:46:09 1999:

orange juice


#444 of 610 by lilmo on Thu Jul 8 20:17:14 1999:

I think you need to be a bit more specific, keesan.  :-)  However, I think
you are on the right track.

happyboy:  no fiber, no vitamins...  hmm... not the OJ I know...  :-)


#445 of 610 by keesan on Fri Jul 23 00:58:33 1999:

I am not familiar with the brands of sugar water, sorry.  Maybe someone else
would like to guess the details?


#446 of 610 by i on Sun Aug 22 22:44:22 1999:

One of the sugared, etc. brands of tea-in-a-bottle?


#447 of 610 by keesan on Tue Aug 31 14:57:35 1999:

I just discovered that canned soda (Squirt) has starch in it, so is this
canned soda?


#448 of 610 by i on Sat Sep 4 00:43:51 1999:

It looks like lilmo hasn't been around for a while.....#STATIC#...
...grex calling lilmo....come in, lilmo....#STATIC#.....


#449 of 610 by lilmo on Sat Sep 11 00:01:15 1999:

Sorry, haven't been around in a while.

Not tea-in-a-bottle, not canned soda.  But definitely on the right track.


#450 of 610 by i on Sat Sep 11 02:43:23 1999:

Some kind of coffee?


#451 of 610 by lilmo on Mon Sep 13 21:22:10 1999:

Getting colder...


#452 of 610 by i on Wed Sep 15 04:21:02 1999:

<groan>


#453 of 610 by gypsi on Thu Sep 16 22:06:25 1999:

That Sobe stuff...it's an energy drink.


#454 of 610 by lilmo on Tue Sep 21 21:09:11 1999:

No, but close enuf, since I'm getting tired of not being able to guess.  It
was actually Powerade.  Your turn, gypsi!


#455 of 610 by gypsi on Thu Sep 23 01:52:38 1999:

<raises eyebrow>  Ummm...okay.  =)


#456 of 610 by gypsi on Thu Sep 23 01:57:41 1999:

Serving size: 1/4 cup (36g/1.3oz)
Servings per container: about 6

Calories 150
Calories from Fat  35

Total Fat: 4g
Saturated Fat: 2g
Cholesterol: 0mg
Sodium:  270mg
Total Carbohydrate: 26g
Dietary Fiber: 2g
Sugars: 10g
Protein: 2g

Vitamin A: 0%
Vitamin C: 0%
Calcium: 4%
Iron: 6%


#457 of 610 by omni on Thu Sep 23 07:41:06 1999:

  Haagen Dazs?


#458 of 610 by remmers on Thu Sep 23 10:36:42 1999:

Hm... Cholesterol content is zero and fiber is non-zero.  This suggests
it's not a dairy product, like ice cream.  It packs a lot of
carbohydrate and sugar into 1/4 cup.  Maybe some highly concentrated
cereal product.


#459 of 610 by gypsi on Thu Sep 23 20:07:40 1999:

Not Haagen Dazs, not highly concentrated cereal product...but that's kinda
on the right track...


#460 of 610 by keesan on Fri Sep 24 16:34:11 1999:

What is Powerade?


#461 of 610 by lilmo on Sat Sep 25 01:40:31 1999:

Coke's version of Gatorade.  It comes in a handy squirt bottle with a valve
in the cap (so it doesn't leak) and a hinged top over that.

Hmm... no Vit A or C, so not a yellow or green veggie, nor likely a fruit,
but fiber indicates that it's not likely to be meat, either.  Is it some kind
of nut? that seems to fit the fiber, iron, and protein.


#462 of 610 by gypsi on Thu Sep 30 07:27:51 1999:

Nope.  Not a beverage, and not a nut.

Hint:  Yes, you can use it for a breakfast food, but it isn't a food itself.


#463 of 610 by i on Thu Sep 30 23:52:51 1999:

Some kind of spread?
<i is unsure about "it isn't a food itself">


#464 of 610 by gypsi on Fri Oct 1 04:06:37 1999:

Meaning I don't know anyone who would eat it.

Not a spread.  Think internally...as in ingredient...


#465 of 610 by lilmo on Fri Oct 1 18:07:05 1999:

Is is a shake mix?  (eg, carnation instant b'fast or SlimFast)


#466 of 610 by gypsi on Fri Oct 1 19:35:34 1999:

That is so close I could scream.  =)  "Mix" is correct...now gimme a popular
brand name for mixes.  Think coffee cake and muffins.


#467 of 610 by happyboy on Fri Oct 1 22:17:48 1999:

jiffy mix?


#468 of 610 by i on Fri Oct 1 22:59:57 1999:

Shake & Bake!!!     :)


#469 of 610 by keesan on Sat Oct 2 03:38:34 1999:

Bisquick.  I remember doughboys for breakfast at summer camp.  Freshly picked
blueberries and raw dough, we never could wait for them to char on the stick.


#470 of 610 by gypsi on Sat Oct 2 03:59:04 1999:

Happyboy has it!  =)


#471 of 610 by happyboy on Sun Oct 3 01:50:01 1999:

cool...i feel like the fonz!
ok...

corn syrup, dextrose, high fructose corn syrup, crackermeal,
modified wheat starch, partially hydrogenated soybean oil,
dried strawberries, natural berry flavor, dried apples, citric
acid, xanthan gum, red #40, soy lecithin, blue #2

hint: the ingredients listed are only *part* of the product
      AND you need not name the *exact* subspecies of this
      cheerful beast.


#472 of 610 by gypsi on Sun Oct 3 03:30:34 1999:

Nutri-Grain Fruit Twists?


#473 of 610 by happyboy on Sun Oct 3 20:27:12 1999:

that's a negatory, mama-bear.


#474 of 610 by gelinas on Mon Oct 4 03:27:48 1999:

Well, except that it's crackermeal instead of flour, I'd say it sounds
like a Pop Tart.


#475 of 610 by keesan on Mon Oct 4 14:53:27 1999:

Did the rules of the game just change from listing nutritional content to
listing actual ingredients?


#476 of 610 by omni on Mon Oct 4 15:04:16 1999:

 I don't think so, but maybe some people just don't understand the rules of
the game.


#477 of 610 by keesan on Tue Oct 5 00:24:10 1999:

I don't mind playing by different rules for a change, except that makes it
impossible to list any 'food' that does not consist of multiple ingredients.
For instance I could not enter a tomato, only tomato sauce or pizza.


#478 of 610 by happyboy on Wed Oct 6 01:45:40 1999:

r474 gelinas...EXACTAMUNDO!  you GOT IT!


#479 of 610 by gelinas on Wed Oct 6 05:13:36 1999:

Oof.

Serving size: 1 0unce ; fourteen servings per container
110 calories, 5 from fat
Total Fat: 1g, saturated fat 0g
Cholesterol: 0mg 
Sodium: 200mg
Total Carbohydrate: 24g
Dietary fiber: 2g
Sugars: 0g
Protein: 3g
Vitamin A:  0%        Vitamin C: 0%
Calcium:    4%        Iron:      2%



#480 of 610 by happyboy on Fri Oct 8 03:08:04 1999:

putayter chips?


#481 of 610 by gelinas on Fri Oct 8 05:16:05 1999:

No, but probably close enough.  Differentiating between potatoes and corn
after they've been through that particular process is done only by taste.

So you're up.  :)


#482 of 610 by happyboy on Fri Oct 8 23:02:32 1999:

okie doke:

tomato puree (water, toamto paste), water,
cooked enriched macaroni product (flour
enriched with niacin, ferrous sulfate thiamine
mono-nitrate and riboflavin), high fructose corn syrup,
salt, enzyme modified cheddar cheese (cheddar 
cheese [milk, cheese culture, salt, enzyme], water
disodium phosphate), vegetable oil (corn, cottonseed
or partially hydrogenated soybean oil), enzyme modified
butter, oleoresin paprika, spice extract, citric acid
and nonfat dry milk.


#483 of 610 by i on Sat Oct 9 02:29:58 1999:

SpaghettiOO's (or however it's spelled).


#484 of 610 by happyboy on Sun Oct 10 02:40:03 1999:

YAY!!!


#485 of 610 by i on Tue Oct 12 02:54:11 1999:

(Does #484 mean i actually got it, or ?????)


#486 of 610 by lilmo on Tue Oct 12 23:05:34 1999:

methinks so.


#487 of 610 by happyboy on Fri Oct 15 00:33:58 1999:

yup


#488 of 610 by lilmo on Fri Oct 15 20:02:38 1999:

Go for it, Doc!


#489 of 610 by i on Sat Oct 16 02:47:16 1999:

Serving Size:   1 T
Per Container:  about 47
Calories:       20      from fat: 10
Total fat:      1.5g    2%
Saturated:      1g      4%
Cholesterol:    0mg     0%
Sodium          0mg     0%
Total Carbs:    3g      1%
Diet. Fiber:    1g      6%
Sugars: 0g
Protein:        1g
Vitamin A, C, Calcium:   0%
Iron:           4%


#490 of 610 by keesan on Mon Oct 18 03:00:05 1999:

Jim guesses Miracle Whip.  (No eggs?)


#491 of 610 by i on Mon Oct 18 11:03:16 1999:

I'd think Miracle Whip would have loads more fat and sodium.  In any
case, it's not that.


#492 of 610 by keesan on Mon Oct 18 14:46:08 1999:

Miracle Whip Lite, he meant.  But you are right about the sodium.  Half its
calories from fat sounds like a lot to us.  Some kind of unsalted spread?


#493 of 610 by remmers on Mon Oct 18 15:29:40 1999:

The numbers in resp:489 don't add up right.
    * 1.5 gm fat = 13.5 calories (not 10 as stated on the label)
    * 3 gm carb = 12.0 calories
    * 1 gm protein = 4.0 calories
for a total of 29.5 calories, not 20.


#494 of 610 by keesan on Mon Oct 18 16:21:00 1999:

Labels are often wrong.  A 2-pound container of feta cheese says servings are
1 oz and there are 500 servings.  A package of bamboo shoots claims to have
0 g fiber.  The people who make the rules about labels must not read them very
closely, or else only read the fat and cholesterol info, currently in fashion.


#495 of 610 by i on Tue Oct 19 01:17:12 1999:

Neither Miracle Whip Lite nor any unsalted spread.

I checked the numbers in #489 against the label - they're "right".  My
guess is that 1.5 g fat means 1.5 +/-.25 g fat, etc. and they don't
count the calories in the fiber.


#496 of 610 by lilmo on Tue Oct 19 01:50:05 1999:

Also, 10 cal means 1O +/- 5 cal.  And I'm pretty sure you're right about the
fiber calories being defined as 0.

Hmmm...  no salt or sugar at all.  It must not be American.  :-)


#497 of 610 by i on Sun Nov 14 19:39:59 1999:

The mystery food up in #489 isn't incredibly obscure or hard to guess....
BUT YOU GOTTA PLAY TO WIN!
:) 


#498 of 610 by keesan on Mon Nov 15 21:39:13 1999:

peanut butter?


#499 of 610 by lilmo on Mon Nov 15 22:24:12 1999:

only if it's all-natural


#500 of 610 by i on Wed Nov 17 03:33:35 1999:

1 T of peanut butter has far more grams of 'most everything....especially
fat (though much less of it is saturated).


#501 of 610 by carson on Sat Nov 27 11:30:10 1999:

(the serving size suggests something like a condiment or a mix orf
some sort. the lack of sugar is definitely confusing, even though it
*should* help to narrow it down. "half" the calories from fat suggests
... is it cocoa?)


#502 of 610 by i on Sat Nov 27 18:31:52 1999:

And the label says........

Ghirardelli Premium Unsweetened Cocoa!

...so carson's up next.


#503 of 610 by carson on Sat Nov 27 23:02:45 1999:

(oh my. I guessed it from looking at a can of Hershey's. cool.) :)

(ok... here's the stuff for my food:)


Nutrition facts

Serving size  1/4 cup (40g)
Servings per container  about 11

Amount per serving

Calories                    130

                 % Daily Value*

Total fat  0g                0%
  Saturated fat 0g           0%
Cholesterol  0mg             0%
Sodium  10mg                 0%
Potassium  310mg             9%
Total carbohydrate  31g     10%
  Dietary fiber  2g          9%
  Sugars  29g
Protein  1g
Calcium  2%           Iron   6%


(the asterix is the standard "based on 2000 calorie diet" disclaimer. the
box also says that the food is "not a significant source of vitamin A and
vitamin C.")

(finally, I'll note that some numbers don't add up exactly. it's a 2.5 cup
container, 425g. hope that helps!)


#504 of 610 by keesan on Sun Nov 28 03:35:24 1999:

Sugar with some minerals added.  Kool-Aid?  Tang?  Honey? Maple syrup?
Sorghum?  (What would one do with a 'serving' of sorghum?).
40 g - about 1.5 ounces -1/4 cup, so it is not liquid, but a powder, cancel
the honey and sorghum.


#505 of 610 by gelinas on Sun Nov 28 03:41:04 1999:

Not Tang; not enough Vitamin C.  But I don't have a food to post, so I'm not
going to guess.  :/


#506 of 610 by carson on Sun Nov 28 10:45:27 1999:

(not Kool-Aid, not Tang, not honey, not maple syrup, not sorghum...
and not a powder. I am amazed, however, that you've guessed three
of the items I'd considered using.)


#507 of 610 by i on Sun Nov 28 13:00:56 1999:

Is it come kind of powdered drink mix?


#508 of 610 by keesan on Sun Nov 28 15:39:07 1999:

Sugar also weighs nearly 2 ounces/quarter cup, I guess.  Sugar is not
considered a powder, unless it is powdered.


#509 of 610 by carson on Sun Nov 28 21:40:03 1999:

(not a powdered drink, and not sugar. seriously, it's not powdered.)


#510 of 610 by orinoco on Mon Nov 29 05:22:01 1999:

Maple candy.


#511 of 610 by carson on Mon Nov 29 17:19:51 1999:

(not maple candy, but that's closer.)


#512 of 610 by keesan on Mon Nov 29 17:49:34 1999:

You mean not refined cane sugar.  It has to be some type of sugar plus a few
minerals, according to the nutrition label.  Candy is mostly sugar, so is
maple syrup (sugar plus water plus whatever minerals the tree needed).


#513 of 610 by orinoco on Mon Nov 29 19:15:23 1999:

Molasses maybe?  That wouold explain the iron content.


#514 of 610 by carson on Mon Nov 29 20:53:27 1999:

(yes, it's sugar plus minerals, but that's misleading. no, it's not
molasses. yes, it's a common food.) ;)


#515 of 610 by lilmo on Thu Dec 2 20:52:44 1999:

remember it has fiber, but not a lot.  No cholesterol, so it's a plant
product.  A wee bit of salt, but lots of potassium.  Hmm.  Dried banana chips?


#516 of 610 by carson on Fri Dec 3 03:53:39 1999:

(that's the closest guess anyone's made yet, lilmo. no, it's not
dried banana chips.)

(side note: I'm not sure where the sodium comes from. it's not added
as an ingredient.)


#517 of 610 by lilmo on Sat Dec 4 18:47:31 1999:

Is banana part of it?


#518 of 610 by carson on Sat Dec 4 22:52:22 1999:

(no, banana is not part of it.)


#519 of 610 by orinoco on Sun Dec 5 00:20:41 1999:

dried apple?


#520 of 610 by carson on Mon Dec 6 21:10:21 1999:

(no, not dried apple.)


#521 of 610 by i on Tue Dec 7 04:30:39 1999:

Some other dried fruit?


#522 of 610 by carson on Tue Dec 7 18:43:09 1999:

(please be more specific.)  :^)


#523 of 610 by keesan on Tue Dec 7 19:57:32 1999:

Dried mangos?


#524 of 610 by carson on Wed Dec 8 01:28:05 1999:

(not dried mangoes.)


#525 of 610 by lilmo on Thu Dec 9 22:05:36 1999:

Is it some other dried fruit?  (if it's not, I don't want to read pages and
pages of different kinds of dried fruit being guessed.)


#526 of 610 by i on Fri Dec 10 03:59:06 1999:

Prunes!


#527 of 610 by orinoco on Fri Dec 10 08:09:35 1999:

ooh...good guess.


#528 of 610 by carson on Fri Dec 10 17:54:56 1999:

(ok, yes, it's a dried fruit. no, it's not prunes. I *think* there's
only one more common dried fruit left to guess.) ;)


#529 of 610 by keesan on Fri Dec 10 18:25:05 1999:

figs or dates


#530 of 610 by happyboy on Fri Dec 10 23:39:44 1999:

cranberries?


#531 of 610 by carson on Sun Dec 12 22:00:56 1999:

(not figs, not dates, not cranberries...)


#532 of 610 by happyboy on Sun Dec 12 23:29:47 1999:

dingleberries?


#533 of 610 by gelinas on Sun Dec 12 23:44:50 1999:

{Would someone please guess "raisins"?  I don't wanna put up a description.}


#534 of 610 by orinoco on Mon Dec 13 00:40:26 1999:

<slaps forehead>
raisins?


#535 of 610 by keesan on Mon Dec 13 18:37:46 1999:

Neither did I. :>  
A friend with a dehydrator has been experimenting - dried bananas, dried kiwi
fruits, tomatoes, avocadoes (don't work well, too greasy), apples, pears,
peaches (these are a sticky mess, we have tried them), peppers.  We buy dried
sweet potatoes from China, I think they are first boiled in sugar.  Dried
litchis, dried jujubes (some are smoked), dried persimmons (flattened), dried
lotus root, chestnuts (presoak, cook with rice gruel), haws (for tea).


#536 of 610 by orinoco on Mon Dec 13 23:41:56 1999:

What are haws?


#537 of 610 by carson on Tue Dec 14 01:15:16 1999:

(raisins it is. ;)  Mr. Velleman, you're up.)


#538 of 610 by orinoco on Tue Dec 14 03:54:28 1999:

Serving Size 2 tbsp (30ml)
Servings per container about 12

Amount Per Serving      2 tbsp  1/2 cup
Calories                40      150
Calories from fat       20      80

Total Fat 2g*           3%      13%
Saturated Fat 1.5g      7%      27%
Cholesterol 10mg        3%      10%
Sodium 30mg             1%      5%
Potassium 90mg          3%      10%
Total Carbohydrate 3g   1%      4%
Sugars 3g
Protein 2g

*Amoung in 2 tbsp

Vitamin A               0%      6%
Calcium                 8%      30%
Vitamin D               6%      25%
Riboflavin              6%      25%
Phosphorous             6%      20%



#539 of 610 by keesan on Tue Dec 14 22:26:36 1999:

butter?
Haws grow on hawthorn trees, which grow around the A2 public library next to
the parking lot.  They have smelly white little flowers, and then small red
fruits that hang on through the winter.  The Chinese ones have larger fruits
and are eaten by people, ours are eaten by birds ones they get hungry enough.
They are small trees with large thorns and a tendency for form a thicket.
Blackhaws are also edible, and unrelated.  Viburnum species.  Hawthorn is
Crataegus and there are wild species of it and cultivated ones.  


#540 of 610 by lilmo on Fri Dec 17 22:30:52 1999:

Butter is not half fat, but ALL fat.  Also, I don't think it has any sugar
or protein, or other nutritional value (vitamins & minerals).

I'll guess peanut butter


#541 of 610 by keesan on Fri Dec 17 23:13:48 1999:

Butter:  1 tbsp is 14.2 g, of which 16% is water, 100 kcal energy, 1 g
protein, 92 g fat, two thirds of that saturated.  It contains some calcium,
iron, phosphorus, magnesium, potassium, lots of salt in the salted variety,
106 units of vitamin A (fat-soluble vitamin, none is found in olive oil), no
vitamin C, minute amounts of other vitamins.
In other words, not all the milk solids or even water are removed when making
cream into butter and buttermilk.  It is mostly, but not all, fat.
Lard has no water and almost no vitamins or minerals (a bit of zinc).
Margarine has vitamin A added, and sodium (salt).
Olive oil has a bit of iron.
You are right, butter is not half fat.


#542 of 610 by orinoco on Sat Dec 18 00:32:03 1999:

Not butter, nor peanut butter.  Nor haws neither, just for the record.


#543 of 610 by keesan on Tue Dec 21 21:40:19 1999:

Peanuts have no cholesterol.  This is some animal product, cheese spread?


#544 of 610 by happyboy on Wed Dec 22 19:21:04 1999:

ear wax?


#545 of 610 by orinoco on Thu Dec 23 17:22:45 1999:

It is an animal product, indirectly, but it isn't cheese spread or earwax.


#546 of 610 by i on Fri Dec 31 01:15:34 1999:

Looks like a dairy product.....


#547 of 610 by orinoco on Sun Jan 2 22:48:19 2000:

<nods>


#548 of 610 by lilmo on Wed Jan 5 21:36:37 2000:

thank you for the correction, keesan


#549 of 610 by i on Thu Jan 6 03:49:37 2000:

Sour cream?


#550 of 610 by orinoco on Thu Jan 6 05:40:33 2000:

Closer in terms of texture, but still no.


#551 of 610 by i on Tue Jan 11 02:30:20 2000:

A "lite" cream cheese?


#552 of 610 by orinoco on Tue Jan 11 04:32:14 2000:

nope.  this is proving harder than I expected....I'll give a hint as soon as
I can think of one.


#553 of 610 by i on Sat Jan 15 05:59:50 2000:

Yogurt?


#554 of 610 by orinoco on Sat Jan 15 23:47:40 2000:

Not yogurt.  But it is a dairy product that has had something done to it. 
It is not eaten as it comes, but rather is used as an ingredient, or has what
was done to it reversed.


#555 of 610 by happyboy on Sat Jan 15 23:52:11 2000:

powdered milk?



#556 of 610 by keesan on Sat Jan 15 23:52:16 2000:

Condensed milk?  (add water)


#557 of 610 by orinoco on Sun Jan 16 01:11:06 2000:

Keesan has it.  


#558 of 610 by keesan on Mon Jan 17 20:21:32 2000:

Would anyone else like 'it'?  I have already entered lots of foods.
Happyboy, do you have anything you would like to enter?  You came pretty
close to the answer.  (Or do people really want to be guessing things like
preserved mangosteen, as we have very few other foods with nutrition labels).


#559 of 610 by happyboy on Mon Jan 17 20:31:08 2000:

you do it!
you do it!


#560 of 610 by keesan on Tue Jan 18 20:11:22 2000:

If happyboy does not want to be 'it', any other volunteers?  People tend to
have a tough time guessing the only sorts of food that we have around with
labels on them (dried seaweed, pumpkin seeds, pomegranate syrup).


#561 of 610 by keesan on Thu Jan 20 23:40:51 2000:

No volunteers?  This time I will post an easy one.  As usual, it is a single
ingredient rather than a mixture, and this time it is something that you can
buy in a supermarket or even probably a small grocery store.  Since we buy
everything in bulk (or pick it ourselves) the nutrition info is from a book:
1 cup  234 g  85% water (in prepared form) 145 kcal 6 g protein 25.2 g carb
9.23 g fiber 2.4 gg fat (sat .44, mono .84 polyunsat 1)
cholesterol none, calcium 20 mg, iron 1.59 mg, Mg 56 mg, potassium 132 g
sodium 1 mg (without salt added), zinc 1.15 mg, A 1.15 RE, no C, reasonable
amounts of B vitamins


#562 of 610 by lilmo on Sat Jan 22 22:40:35 2000:

soybeans?


#563 of 610 by keesan on Sun Jan 23 18:24:41 2000:

Soybeans have more fat:10 grams per cup cooked. 235 kcal (double, probably
due to the fat) and 19.8 g protein.  Not soybeans but your'e sort of in the
right category, something dry that you cook.


#564 of 610 by happyboy on Sun Jan 23 19:08:59 2000:

oatmeal?


#565 of 610 by keesan on Sun Jan 23 20:39:18 2000:

You are IT!  (No backing out this time, you guessed right).  This must be a
new record for fast guessing.  


#566 of 610 by happyboy on Fri Jan 28 03:22:08 2000:

Ingredienser:
Honsekod 42%
Svinekod 23%, Vand 22%,
Oksekod 8%, Salt 2%,
Krydderurter, Krydderier,
Maelkeprotein,
Stabilisator: E451,
Antioxidant: E300,
Konserverings-
middel: E250.


#567 of 610 by cmcgee on Fri Jan 28 18:54:35 2000:

Wurst?


#568 of 610 by keesan on Fri Jan 28 21:55:10 2000:

Pate de fois gras?  With a bit of fat pig thrown in?
Looks like the Swedes/Dane/Norwegians or whatever this is have different
labelling rules than the USA, where you only list ingredients in order and
don't know where the 2% cutoff is, allowing manufacturers to make honey coated
peanuts with a tiny trace of honey added to the white sugar.  Interesting.


#569 of 610 by happyboy on Sat Jan 29 00:25:18 2000:

re567: what kind?  :P


#570 of 610 by cmcgee on Sat Jan 29 00:34:53 2000:

Worst.


#571 of 610 by happyboy on Sat Jan 29 02:43:03 2000:

you get it...some sort of import *Coctail Polser*
:)


#572 of 610 by keesan on Sat Jan 29 03:28:20 2000:

What was the language?  


#573 of 610 by happyboy on Sat Jan 29 18:18:44 2000:

i dunno, but there were lot's of
funny things by the letters and
a line thru the O


#574 of 610 by keesan on Sun Jan 30 04:36:03 2000:

I think that is Danish.  Swedish would have .. over the o instead.
Is there any hint on the package, such as Kobenhavn?


#575 of 610 by cmcgee on Mon Jan 31 04:21:45 2000:

Serv Size 1/2 C

Calories         80
Fat Cal           0
 SatFat           0
Cholest           0 mg
Sodium          760 mg
Total Carb       19g
  Fiber   1 g
  Sugars 11 g
Protein          2 gm

Vit A  10%
Vit C  10%
Calcium 2%
Iron    2%


#576 of 610 by i on Tue Feb 1 03:34:07 2000:

Sauerkraut


#577 of 610 by cmcgee on Tue Feb 1 06:32:38 2000:

nope


#578 of 610 by keesan on Tue Feb 1 22:37:52 2000:

Sauerkraut has more fiber and less sugar (the sugar has mostly been fermented
to lactic acid.  I have made sauerkraut.  Don't think there is much Vit A).


#579 of 610 by cmcgee on Sat Feb 5 21:46:48 2000:

Only one guess since Monday. 

Clue 1:  Although the serving size is 1/2 cup one would usually dilute this
food.


#580 of 610 by keesan on Sun Feb 6 18:42:31 2000:

Canned soup?  Tomato soup in a can?  (tomatoes are sweet, soup is salty)


#581 of 610 by cmcgee on Mon Feb 7 09:51:01 2000:

Hrmph.  Musta made it too easy.  

Yes, this is classic Campbells Tomato Soup.


#582 of 610 by keesan on Tue Feb 8 03:02:15 2000:

Would somebody else please enter something?  (Yes, your clue was far too
revealing - I could not think of any other 1/2 cup that gets diluted.)
If I enter something it will most likely not be easy.  


#583 of 610 by keesan on Tue Feb 8 21:53:35 2000:

Really, you don't want to be guessing Chinese olives (not related to the
European ones).  Someone with American eating habits please enter something.


#584 of 610 by orinoco on Wed Feb 9 01:17:25 2000:

I'm not in regular contact wiht packaged food; I just eat whatever the dining
halls give me.  If you want a really sadistic one, I might be able to swipe
a few nutrition information cards....


#585 of 610 by keesan on Wed Feb 9 01:36:05 2000:

Go to it!


#586 of 610 by keesan on Mon Feb 14 01:37:16 2000:

Jim decided it is his turn.   No nutrition label on this one, it came by UPS
in a box, in bulk.
1 cup 143 g 40% water 350 kcal 4.5 g protein 75.7 g carbohydrates 18.5 g fiber
3.1 g fat (poly or mono unsaturated)  no cholesterol
Minerals: 42 mg Ca, 1.3 mg iron, 47 g Mg, 153 g phos 846 g K 3 g Na
Not a whole lot of vitamins other than 1.92 g niacin  100 g folacin
(For comparison 1 cup cottage cheese has 135 g Ca,.26 g iron, 11 g Mg, 297
g P   190 g K 911 g Na, .30 g niacin, 27 g folacin, making this mystery item
relatively high in calcium, iron, magnesium, and potassium/sodium ratio. 
Cottage cheese has 0 fiber and 34 cholesterol.)


#587 of 610 by keesan on Tue Feb 15 22:13:41 2000:

Clues - as always this is not someone's prepared mixture but a single food,
and there is mention of it in winter agora in one item.


#588 of 610 by keesan on Mon Feb 21 18:31:22 2000:

In the title of the item.


#589 of 610 by i on Fri Feb 25 03:51:08 2000:

It's gotta be either the reindeers or the chestnuts.    :)


#590 of 610 by keesan on Fri Feb 25 16:55:32 2000:

You got it.  Reindeers are not high in fiber or carbohydrates.
We have frozen most of our chestnuts.  They boil up like new and we put them
in our oatmeal, mix them with green beans, etc.  Very sweet flavor.


#591 of 610 by i on Wed Mar 1 00:40:16 2000:

Serving size:   30g (lots per container) 
Calories:       90  (5 from fat)
Total Fat   1g   2% 
Total Carb. 22g  7% 
D. Fiber    5g  20%
Protein     3g 
Iron        4% 
(Saturated Fat, Cholesterol, Sugars, Sodium,
Vitamin A, Vitamin C, and Calcium:  0%) 


#592 of 610 by keesan on Wed Mar 1 04:28:06 2000:

30 g per serving implies that the carbohydrate is sugar rather than starch,
and Dr. Chocolate implies that there is chocolate in it somewhere.  Right?
Jim says 30 g is about 1 oz, or 2 tbps.  (He learned this in nursing class).
A spread of some sort?  Jim says 'raspberry jam'?  (It would at least go well
with chocolate).   I say it can't be, no Vitamin C. Peanut butter is too oily.


#593 of 610 by i on Fri Mar 3 01:17:50 2000:

It's buried at the bottom, but the label proclaims 0% for sugar.
A bit of arithmetic:  30g (serving) - 1g (fat) - 22g (carb.) - 3g
   (protein) = 4g for everything else.
30g is about 1 oz.....*if* this food's density is about the same as
   that of liquid water.  (If you're talking weight oz's instead
   of fluid oz's, the 30g thing is true regardless....but then 1 oz
   may not equal 2 T.) 
I've been calling myself "Dr. Chocolate" in the cf. for years, so 
   it might not be safe to make the assumption...


#594 of 610 by keesan on Fri Mar 3 04:14:02 2000:

Jim asks 'rice cracker'?  No salt, no sugar, no chocolate.  No fun. :}
(Jim asks why not :) - I tell him that } shows his beard)


#595 of 610 by i on Sat Mar 4 03:19:03 2000:

Not rice crackers....much closer, though.


#596 of 610 by keesan on Thu Mar 16 17:23:39 2000:

Wonder Bread or some variation on it without added vitamins?


#597 of 610 by i on Fri Mar 17 02:29:28 2000:

The food has *way* too much fiber to be any member of the WonderSponge
family.  You're right that no vitamins (or minerals) were added.


#598 of 610 by keesan on Fri Mar 17 20:16:02 2000:

Would someobody else please guess at this one?  Nobody wants to be guessing
at the sort of food we would post if we guessed right.  Bran?


#599 of 610 by i on Sat Mar 18 02:29:04 2000:

It's only 1/6 dietary fiber (by weight).  Is any sort of "bran" that
fiber-poor?

(You are getting closer to the identity of this upstanding member of
the cerials food group;) 


#600 of 610 by void on Mon Mar 20 22:29:00 2000:

   wheat germ?


#601 of 610 by i on Tue Mar 21 01:43:36 2000:

Wheat germ contains more protein and fat, but less carbo's than this
food.  Besides, there's no wheat in it.


#602 of 610 by keesan on Tue Mar 21 18:51:16 2000:

Corn chips, baked?


#603 of 610 by i on Sun Mar 26 01:12:06 2000:

It's not a ready-to-eat food.  And corn can't match this food's
fiber content.


#604 of 610 by keesan on Fri Apr 7 02:54:03 2000:

Oatmeal? (says Jim)  Quinoa?
Looks like one of these dry cereals but they are ready to eat.  Wheaties have
about the right ratio but you said no wheat, and not ready to eat.
Someone else please guess.  If we win again we will enter one of those things
we just bought at the Chinese grocery store (not the pickled pomelos).


#605 of 610 by i on Fri Apr 7 03:57:54 2000:

It's a dry cereal(grain), but not a dry cereal(breakfast).


#606 of 610 by keesan on Fri Apr 7 12:39:07 2000:

Who would eat just 30 g (1 oz) of a dry cereal?  
Cereals:  millet, sorghum, rye, barley, oats, teff, rice.
Buckwheat is not a grain.
Amaranth.  Spelt and kamut are types of wheat, as are emmer and einkorn.
We cook grains by the 8 or 16 ounces.
You can make noodles from corn, wheat, mung beans, or sweet potato starch.


#607 of 610 by i on Fri Apr 7 23:47:09 2000:

It's rye flour.  The 30 g is probably what you'd get from a couple slices
of rye bread.

Who wants to pose a mystery food next?


#608 of 610 by keesan on Sat Apr 8 04:04:30 2000:

But who would cook with 30g rye flour?


#609 of 610 by i on Sat Apr 8 19:07:32 2000:

Well, the 30g is about 1/4 C....so if there's 2 C of rye flour in the
loaf of rye bread that you make, and you eat 1/8 of the loaf in your
sandwich, then you've gotten about 30g of rye flour.

Same principle as the nutritional info on a box of baking soda.  The
1/8 t serving size doesn't represent the amount used in any recipe, 
but how much baking soda they expect one person to get when homemade
biscuits are served with dinner.


#610 of 610 by keesan on Sun Apr 9 01:31:45 2000:

I make loaves with 4 cups flour and eat half a loaf at a sitting, or more.
Jim eats a whole loaf.


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