Grex Iq Conference

Item 181: Twenty Questions - Round 9

Entered by papa on Tue Feb 20 15:26:32 2018:

32 new of 47 responses total.


#16 of 47 by nydel on Sun Feb 25 04:13:14 2018:

Q9: Is it to be consumed i.e. used up as a - or in a way similar to that of
- a fuel?


#17 of 47 by papa on Sun Feb 25 06:07:12 2018:

A9: No

(I don't like giving too many hints, but nydel's also touches on an ambiguous
aspect of the target object. The answer "no" is because it is not intended
for consumption, and is not consumed under normal circumstances. However,
consumption of this thing is possible, and it may be consumed at some point
in its existence. (Grammar used in the preceding sentences should not be
interpreted to be making a statement on the fictional or non-fictional nature
of the target object, or if the target existed in the past, present, or
future.)


#18 of 47 by mijk on Sun Feb 25 17:02:57 2018:

Q10: Is it a type of resin?


#19 of 47 by papa on Sun Feb 25 18:04:59 2018:

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#20 of 47 by papa on Sun Feb 25 18:06:38 2018:

A10: No


#21 of 47 by tfurrows on Mon Feb 26 20:14:02 2018:

A11: Is this wooden object something that currently exists on planet earth
in physical form?


#22 of 47 by papa on Tue Feb 27 06:44:16 2018:

*I* give the answers, t.

A11: Yes

You are starting to get warm.


#23 of 47 by tfurrows on Tue Feb 27 15:46:36 2018:

lol... I got my Q & A mixed up :)


#24 of 47 by mijk on Wed Feb 28 11:35:23 2018:

Q12: Is the object a tree?


#25 of 47 by papa on Wed Feb 28 12:33:51 2018:

A12: No


#26 of 47 by tfurrows on Wed Feb 28 19:13:49 2018:

Q13: Is this wooden object something that is used to transport humans or goods
across distances?


#27 of 47 by papa on Wed Feb 28 22:37:28 2018:

A13: No


#28 of 47 by mijk on Thu Mar 1 07:23:06 2018:

Q14: Is this object fashioned/made by humans (i.e a manufactured object)?


#29 of 47 by papa on Thu Mar 1 09:12:56 2018:

A14: Yes


#30 of 47 by nydel on Thu Mar 1 10:55:15 2018:

Q15: Is it both not a toothpick and used to support the positions of other
objects?


#31 of 47 by papa on Thu Mar 1 12:46:21 2018:

A15: No


#32 of 47 by tfurrows on Thu Mar 1 15:20:44 2018:

Q16: Is it an object of worship (do people worship it)?


#33 of 47 by papa on Thu Mar 1 17:00:15 2018:

A16: No

Hint: ... but it is connected to worship.


#34 of 47 by mijk on Thu Mar 1 21:19:10 2018:

Q17: Is it a cross?


#35 of 47 by papa on Thu Mar 1 23:09:03 2018:

A17: No

The end is near, so another hint: This is a wooden building that is a house
of worship. 

Remember the previous hint that this is also a particular unique object, so
I am thinking of something like "the cathedral of Notre Dame de Paris", not
just "a cathedral" (though if you asked, the answer to both of those would
be "No").


#36 of 47 by nydel on Fri Mar 2 01:57:19 2018:

forgive a followup please, you're sure that the answer to Q15 is no? i.e. is
is not a toothpick and it //IS// used to support the position of other objects
-- OR -- it is a tooothpick and IS NOT used to support the position of other
objects? the question's wording may have been lacking is why i ask to clarify.

the question in pseudocode

(BOTH
 (NOT A TOOTHPICK)
 (IS USED TO SUPPORT THE POSITION OF OTHER OBJECTS))

--> this evaluates down to No - is that correct? thankyou!


#37 of 47 by papa on Fri Mar 2 04:02:54 2018:

resp:36

I think Q15 has been made moot by other qusetions and hints, but yes, even
parsing the question like your pseudocode the answer is "No".

Rewriting your code slightly:

(and
     (is-false "is a toothpick")                           ;[a]
     (is-true "is used to support the positions ..."))     ;[b]

The complete expression evaluates to TRUE ("Yes") only when subexpressions
a and b are both TRUE. Being a building, the target is not a toothpick,
therefore a is TRUE. So the value of the whole expression is the same as the
value of b.

However, b contains an abiguity depending on the meaning of "support".
Commonly we say that a table, bookcase, server rack, etc. support their
contents. Although an analogy can be made between these and a building and
its contents, we usually use words like contains, houses, shelters, stores
for the latter relationship.

Do we say, "The house supports the position of the sofa," or, "The garage
supports the car"? I don't think so, at least not commonly. Therefore I gave
expression b the value FALSE, giving the same value to the whole expression
and the answer "No".

I would not normally give a breakdown like the above to both parts of a
question asked in the form of a logical conjunction ("and"), but I made an
exception since the question is moot and the round is almost over.


#38 of 47 by tfurrows on Fri Mar 2 06:36:45 2018:

This exchange makes me happy. I love the kind of people you are.
Q18: Is this wooden building of worship in Asia?


#39 of 47 by papa on Fri Mar 2 08:01:06 2018:

Ah, a simple one.

A18: Yes


#40 of 47 by mijk on Fri Mar 2 14:30:25 2018:

Q19: Is this wooden building of worship in Japan?


#41 of 47 by papa on Sat Mar 3 00:29:01 2018:

A19: Yes

Down to the wire, but I think you can guess it. You're very close.


#42 of 47 by tfurrows on Mon Mar 5 20:39:22 2018:

Q20: is it the Horyuji Temple?


#43 of 47 by papa on Mon Mar 5 22:53:49 2018:

A20: NO! 

Too bad! Almost close enough to taste.

I was thinking of a different Buddhist temple, Toudaiji, East Great Temple,
located in Nara, Japan. It is one of the largest wooden structures in the
world (THE largest until not too long ago). Construction was begun in A.D.
728. The main hall houses the world's largest bronze statue of Buddha.


#44 of 47 by papa on Tue Mar 6 03:29:32 2018:

I was inspired by the rarity of vegetable targets in our game, and by
the previous target, a bothy, which in spite of having being a building
in common with Toudaiji, is classified as mineral on the first question
due to the selection of materials.


#45 of 47 by mijk on Tue Mar 6 16:04:07 2018:

 Ohh! unlucky! It was a toss up between the two temples. One the oldest wooden
building in Japan, and the other the largest. Oh for one more question! 
That was a good one papa! :)


#46 of 47 by papa on Tue Mar 6 22:38:33 2018:

Yes. I'm pretty sure question 21 would have got it.

As tfurrows suggested on party, I can pass the answerer shoe to nydel for
round 10. If he'd prefer not to, we can have a volunteer, or I can think of
another.


#47 of 47 by mijk on Tue Mar 6 22:47:42 2018:

Maybe we can wait for nydel to answer, but it is your shout, as they say. 


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