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I dialed in from home. Also, we have a separate line for the computer, so no, no one picked up the telephone extension. Any other ideas? Could it be a break of some kind in the telephone line outside the house? Could it have been something originating at the Grex terminal? Could it have been something in the Pine works? I was e-mailing through pine. Inquiring minds want to know.\
Hmm, I wonder if it could have been cross-talk somewhere along the line. Every once and awhile while working in one office on campus we would get calls for a completely different office with a totally different number- but because of interference on the line we got their calls. So somewhere, if wire were slightly frayed and hit each other just right you could have gotten some 'noise' through your line.
You could have a poor connection in a modular plug; the telephone company might have done something; an animal might have nibbled an elevated phone wire; lightning?; wind could have rattled a bad external connection; something might have happened at Grex (among which are all of the above plus staff falling off their chairs.... :)
If I had to guess, it would be the cross talk or frayed lines. No wind or lightening at the time, Rane. A day like today. Now Grex staff members falling off chairs. . .I am trying to envision. Everyone seems so stable. (a psychologists pun.)
Just had a phunny phone connect. Ring thru on the first line, then after second line answered, a disconnect. A quick re-dial got me in.
Yesterday, grex said that I had a bad participation file when I entered aora. Now it says that I have 190 brandnew items. It's as if I never read anything in this conference at all. Is there any way to fix that?
Yes - type "fixseen" at the "Ok:" prompt (if you're using Picospan and not Backtalk). Then, to read responses new in the last day, type "read since -1". This problem occurs whenever Picospan tries to update your conference participation file at a time when the disk is full. The /a disk filled up yesterday afternoon. My participation file got zapped too.
Thanks remmers, that seems to have fixed the problem.
/a is full again.
Hmm.... owing to the full drive, would it be worth it to back up my participation file (say, every time I log in or something)? Are they the .cf files?
yes, but only if you back them up off grex. otherwise, you are just contributing to the problem...
I dialed in on -3000 a few minutes ago and was peaceably reading my mail when I was disconnected. When I logged in again, here is what the System said: Last login: Thu Sep 9 10:46:06 on ttyqd from 204.212.46.132 I have been *repeatedly* disconnected for the past several weeks. This is very disconcerting. Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? Are others having this problem?
I was just disconnected *again*! When I re-connected, I was told: Last login: Thu Sep 9 10:55:01 on ttyu7 from 204.212.46.132 Do we have a bad modem/set of modems?
I haven't had any problems in a while. Have you tried from a different location (ie not your own phone line)?
Not strictly a system problem, but an amusing error message during the
daily queue:
...3
Sep 9 13:11 Sep 9 13:11 56880 -1 11229 203.197.98.6 LOST HEAD
...2
...1
[203.197.98.6 is a part of VSNL's broken-DNS space]
re120: Are you sure it isn't the 9/9/99 bug?
One of the modems at or below -3554 in the trunk hunt is ringing open.
does this look okay?: 16 waiting, 64 remote + 3 local users; 72 max remote users; 4951 head ...2 of 17; 67 users ...2 of 17; 66 users ...2 of 16; 65 users IT's not that I had to wait a long time to get onto Grex, but I read it as eight less people should be waiting to get on (72 max remote - 64 remote)
I've experienced what Dave has mentioned. It seems to come and go, but last week there were many times I would suddenly get the dreaded NO CARRIER message. Since I do live on the same side of town as Dave, I wonder if it isn't related to the horrible phone lines, perhaps exacerbated by the increased amount of phone work that takes place this time of year. If this is true, though, our problems should decrease, as my Ameritech friend says most of the installment "rush" is over.
I've had some troubles getting randomly disconnected as well. <shrugs> Generally happens to me in party though.
Since I also M-Net from the same computer/phone line, and *never* have random disconnections on M-Net, I'm sure that this is a Grex problem, not a phone line problem.
It could just be that your brand of modem doesn't like our brand of modem. Kind of like cats and dogs.
Kinda like Apples and Intells?
I've also been disconnected a number of times the last few weeks. It seems to happen more often in conferences if I hold down the space bar a couple seconds to page through an item. Have also seen it happen in Lynx.
Odd. I seem to have entered three identical items in this .cf. I entered the first, and then attempted to add updated info and was 'disconnected' which with an autodial reconnect seems to instead resulted in the three separate but identical postings. I wonder if it is a 9/9/99 sort of thingy (outside of grex)? I also could not get a connection for some time to any of my local POPs (getting an 'unable to dial' intercept) and finally it resorted to dialing the toll free 800 number which in fact worked which I was then connected to even though now I think I am back on my local POP?!?!
Trying 204.212.46.130... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused Same with grex.org & cyberspace.org - and we're now down to 10 users.. Annon was on mnet and typed to me of this problem - he was totally incapable of reaching grex. What gives?
I get 'Connection refused' using telnet, too...I'm currently connected via ssh, which is working just fine. Wow, Grex gets fast with only 9 users connected...
Backtalk is working fine.
phones: I also have been getting disco'd, typically
while in party, perhaps a dozen or more times in the
past week.
I was unable to get in on the *dialins* this morning around 9:30, so it wasn't just a telnet problem.
I'm getting a mysterious error when I read some e-mail.
The apostrophe (') is replaced with "m-^R". Does anyone know
what is causing this? Is there any way to set my e-mail so
that this doesn't happen? Thanx.
When you connect on the dial-ins, you dial into a terminal server, which then automatically telnets you over to Grex. The only way to access Grex without telnetting is on the console (or via ssh). I'm guessing inetd probably died, and somebody probably restarted it, but I don't know for sure.
Re resp:137 - It looks like you're getting email messages from
folks who put 8-bit characters in them, but that something
along the line is substituting a symbolic code for such characters.
It's not clear to me whether it's something on Grex or something
in your local setup. You might try putting the line
PAGER='more -r'
in your .mailrc file and seeing if that makes a difference.
Thanks, remmers!
Did my suggesetion work?
Couldn't dial in this afternoon. Grex starts up, tells me about birthdays and mail, then asks for login again...and again... telnetted in to post this. Same problem with -3000 and -5041.
I was disconnected *again* twice within just the past few minutes. Is any staff person working to track down the reason for these repeated disconnects? At least I can see from the reports of others that it's not just me...
That's funny. I haven't had any disconnects that I know of in over a month. I'm often on for a long time, but I also use *70 as a dial-in prefix because of my call-waiting feature. Maybe it protects me against random line noise too?
No disconnects, but the systems 'hangs' for minutes at a time, now and then.
I have routed around a floky terminal server report. But disconnects are by no means a universal problem. I haven't been disconnected in ages, myself. Maybe we are getting more line noise than usual. An error correcting modem link would appear to "hang" while riding out a burst of noise.
Two unrelated things: Someone tried to log in as me Mon night. loginid 'patti' has been logged on for over 24 hrs. Dunno if either of these things is a problem.
I have some things-seem-to-hang-while-the-modems-deal-with-line-noise problems on about a third of my calls to grex; disconnects are somewhat less frequent. Reading of a failed login attempt or two when i log in is routine.
Earlier today I tried several times to log in, but all I got was garbage. I could however, type my login, and then password and it would show me the MOTD but the letters were all replaced with odd characters.
A useful piece of information for those being disconnected is the area code and first three digits of the phone number you're dialing from. It would be interesting if we could tie it to a particular Ameritech switch. That sort of trunking problem doesn't seem nearly as likely going between two Ameritech switches as it is when dealing with multiple phone companies, but it could still be there. What kind of modem you're using would also be interesting information.
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Thanx for the reroute, Scott! I haven't been disconnected *today* so far. 8-) Steve, my number starts with (734) 769-.
I've noticed that a mis-typed password results in a 'failed login' report when I finally get it right.
I coulden't get loged into grex tonight, It would dial up and connect then just stop. I'm in here from the net with a variation of my name :)
I have also been unable to dial in to grex today and we are learning how to use the web interface. The software and modem say I am connected but there is no response from grex.
Hm... I don't dial in that often but have never recently had trouble. Soon as I'm off the internet I'll give it a try and see what happens.
I use ssh usually to get to grex..but when there is a waiting queue I log in but then my ssh connection freezes...and I have to use telnet is there any way for ssh logins to be added in line to the queue?
I've been hving the same trouble as the others. I dial in, and it says I'm connected (my terminal program) but I get nothing from Grex. It just kinda hangs there... I let it go once and after three minutes or so it still said I was connected- but I never got the "Welcome to Grex" bit.
SSH just doens't work with the queue, wait in line like everyone else.
Is there no way to have ssh be handled in the queue the same way as telnet, then? I like to use it, mostly because it eliminates the chance of someone packet-sniffing my password.
In theory, there's a way, but it would be a ugly ugly hack.
grex worksok today, no broblems :)
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