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Welcome to Grex, Reju. It gets easier.
Tonight is daylight's saving's time in the US. Don't forget to set your clocks accordingly. Also remember to change the batteries in your smoke and carbon monoxide detectors.
And save us your old batteries which probably still work fine. We will send them in to Kiwanis to test radios with.
I thought I would add this to the Grex specific item, consider it is regarding cyberspace and free speach-related issues. I ran across an organization that was formed which is much like the ACLU, but deals strickly with internet issues. The Electronic Frontier Foundation, at http://www.eff.org/.I haven't had a chance to really look at the website, so I thought I'd post it for those interested in reading up on this group.
http://www.eff.org/ Oops...sorry!
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(Grex already has a link to the EFF on its homepage. it's the blue ribbon.) (whatever happened to the "red ribbon" sites, anyway?)
For those that know me, and the fewer that could care, I'm back in town.
Welcome back kotter, er, krokus!
Welcome back Rich
dittos.....oops wrong show. Yeah, I'm a Limbaughite. Welcome back, Rich. In other news. I have changed callsigns. I was AA8IJ, and now I have reclaimed my wonderful and beloved N8LIC. The State of Ohio is so happy that they have issued a plate for the Japanese Beetle. (1 to a customer, and I had to give them 15 %$%#$$% dollars). My previous plate has been donated to Sardini's Restaurant for thier Wall of Weird Ohio Licence plates. I dined there last evening after a long and bizarre trip to Michigan. I will be dining at Sardini's on a regular basis. I have also discovered "the source" of Calder Bros Delicious dairy products. Being that I want to keep this information "under my hat" as it were I will not be divulging anything more on this subject. You can torture me, but I will NOT tell. I do have to say that the Butter Pecan is way way better than anything Haagen Dazs can make. (For a small fee, I may leak the info.)
Keeping dairy products under your hat for any length of time might be unwise.
IWLTA that I now have Linux working on a 486 with Opera 6.03 and Lynx 2.8.4 (ssl) and I can access grex via backtalk with both of them. (Opera 5.05 and Links do not work for backtalk). But my backspace does not work in X ;( About 20 or so of us are helping each other with a small linux distribution via a mailing list. I offered them a grex conference but no takers.
Are you going to be at Penqicon to show it off this weekend?
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You can include your self on the baslinux mailing list at ibiblio.org but you should be using Slackware 7.1 to get involved. There is an ssh compiled for basiclinux available. You might just download basiclinux 2.03 yourself and use the included telnet and then add ssh. The dialler always works, even on a modem that almost nothing else will work on (Kermit also works). The download is about 2M and you get dialler, telnet, and browser and editor.
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You would have to add the module or substitute a bigger kernel, after installing to hard disk. Can we take this to email now?
The first bit of work on building the next Grex computer got done today. Since it isn't likely to make the TV news report, I put up a web page with photos instead. http://www.unixpapa.com/newgrex/ Thanks to all who donated money for the purchase of this system.
kickass. (i want a RTFM tshirt, dammit)
Said shirt may be purchased at: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/3239/
dammit, no RTFM for on a baby tee.
I'd like it on a nice button-down oxford shirt, right on the breast pocket. :)
I bet you could get it embroidered easily enough; some people put their monogram on their dress shirts.
Another alternative is to get a T-shirt design program. Hanes has one that's pretty good.
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LOL!
That joke did not go over well with my inlaws, who are from the South. Choose your audience carefully ;-)
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*shrug* then again, Atlanta is a metro city, isn't it? And I thought the near South was poorer than the deep South, i.e. the Ozarks, for example. I remember a sad month of telemarketing employment calling folks in that area who said things like they had but a Wal-Mart in their area as far as a business.
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Phoenix Arizona all the way to Tacoma
Philadelphia Atlanta L.A.
To me, "deep South" means southern Ohio and Indiana, where people in the gas stations start talking with a funny southern accent.
The South starts when you see the watertower that says "Florence, Y'All". This is just a bit south of the IHOP/Waffle House line.
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Yep, "Florence Y'All" is the start of the South to me too.
Deep south is when you leave any major city in Georgia, Alabama or Mississippi, and you hope your car doesn't break down or you get lost. Let me add South Carolina to that... I went to Beech Island and it was scarey.
resp:32 if you're serious, (which I doubt) you'd be in for culture shock if you were to come down I-82 to the Columbia Basin, much less across the Oregon border over to Umatilla.
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yeah, I figured-- it sounded strange enough. I was being snarky.
As long as we're doing jokes here... What does coffee and the Maumee river have in common? Same color. What is the difference between gasoline and the Cuyahoga river? not much, but the cuyahoga doesnt cost 1.40/gal. take my wife, please.
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...Hike!
Am a newbie here but God, I love this . Its so interesting. Am initiating myself reall well and I you folks are great
You're doing just fine, scorpio! Welcome to Grex.
' it gets easier,' (tm) grex.
Through a mistake of mine, I had an overdue bill for my son's dentist. I stopped by last month to pay it, and upon discussing the matter with the dentist's staff, they discovered my error, contacted the insurance company, and corrected my mistake. I didn't have to pay the bill. I'd written the check but tore it up, since they were satisfied the insurance company would pay. Now, a month later, I got a letter from the dentist's office, containing a check sent to the dentist from my insurance company. They signed the check and forwarded it to me, apparently having recorded that I'd paid. What a pleasure to know I'm dealing with such honest people! A lot of businesses would just cash such a check, assuming it to be theirs without doing any further investigation. It's a mistake on their part, but most such mistakes are against the customer, not in favor of them. I guess it's time for a trip to the video store, where I'll apply my proceeds to a month or two worth of movies. Thanks, Doc!
(I'm kidding, of course. I'm sending the check back to them along with a nice letter.)
Does dental insurance pay for fillings? I thought it only paid for cleanings and checkups. I am happy because I have an excuse to stay in bed feeling sorry for myself instead of going out and digging in the garden. This is because my pulled muscles in my back are much worse after taking care of the flooded basement yesterday. First I mopped the kitchen (a great way to make pulled muscles worse), then Rotorooter refused to use the outside basement steps (half of them were missing, I understood) so I got to remove everything from the doorway (my main entrance) and clear a path through the kitchen and then remove a lot of heavy food containers lining the stairs and basement floor, and then mop the basement and bathroom (in basement) and steps and kitchen (again) and put everything back. So now I get the day off in bed. I am also happy that I caught it this time before the basement was under 2 " of water and it was only a wet bathroom and laundry room. And I am even happier that Rotorooter (who did the job when Jim refused - he did it the last ten times) left two minutes before our dinner guest arrived. Good luck comes in threes (but I am losing count on this one). I also get to wash the bathmats again (after just changing them the day before) so they will be extra clean. Raw sewage is such fun! The Rotorooter guy had fun breaking out the plug to a side section of sewer and snaking out two sections instead of one. He says he has to break out lots of plugs - this is Ann Arbor. Jim is happy that he has a chance to cut down (with an interesting contraption of saw on pole) the large branch next door before it takes out his power line. Back to bed. (Not intended as a pun).
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Hang in there, Sindi, but hopefully things are going to get better.
I am ecstatically happy because I finally got my Linux computer onto the Internet. The network card I was using didn't work. Now that I've done it, it was so easy I can't take that much pride in it. What happened to understanding routing and all that? (Heh. I'll take it.) Also, I untangled the huge mess of cables, cords and wires behind my computers. Well, at least I got the mess behind the computers instead of most of it being in front of them!
My dental insurance pays for fillings. Well, partially, anyway.
My dental insurance pays for fillings - 80% of them anyways. I think so...I havent needed a filling in years. I did need a crown a while back and it paid 50% of that bill.
Anyhow, I hope you feel better, keesan. Sewage backups are the worst!
This flood really was just a small one compared to the last ten or so. I notice the flood when I walk downstairs in my socks. Jim is happy because he got a chance to explain to his sister the various details in his 'relationship' with his daughter. She phoned last night for about three hours (his sister). She had been assigned the task of informing Jim that he should renew his passport so that he could walk his daughter down the aisle at her wedding (in N. Ireland). His daughter did something similar last time she got married - not having talked to Jim for 10 years she told his sister to inform him to wear a blue blazer to her wedding (to which she had not of course invited him). Jim explained that he had written her a long email explaining why he was not coming to this wedding either, to which he never got an answer of any sort. He never gets answers. His sister is starting to understand the situation. Jim is happy because someone took the time to listen to his side of the situation. I am happy because Jim answered most of my email so I did not have to sit up. The email was to people who know he cannot spell. He invented a really novel way to spell Joseph (my nephew who turned three three days ago). The letters were all there and it started with J. Congratulations on getting Linux online!
What plugs your sewer? We have had a few backups. The worst was when the street sewer plugged. Smaller ones occurred when our sewer line plugged, in part due to roots getting into the sewer line (our house has a footing drain to the sanitary sewer - now illegal, but OK when the house was built). I installed a backup alarm, consisting of a magnetic switch that sticks down through a cleanout plug and some X-10 transmitter and receivers that sound an alarm. It really gets us moving when it sounds off - but no basement flooding since.
Tree roots on this side of the street, starting about 5-6 years ago, possibly from the linden planted over 15 years ago in the front yard by a previous tenant. When your alarm sounds, do you snake out the sewer? Jim has decided it is no longer his problem but the landlord's, so an alarm would only have the advantage of letting me remove things from the floor before it flooded. Rotorooter can take two days to show up. The upstairs neighbors continue to use water and it gets deeper. I consider myself lucky to live downstairs despite the frequent floods. They get rain coming through the roof instead, in the rotten area at the edges, which rots because the gutters are always full of things like roofing. Some day I will stop living in rental housing. For many years (not recently) it used to rain into my kitchen when the upstairs shower was in use. The leak must have rusted shut. A hot water bottle helps a lot - I think it eliminates the muscle spasms and those are what cause the pain.
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I like living on the middle floor. Sewer backups are the problem of the people under me, and roof leaks are the problem of the people above me. ;) So far I don't think there have been any of either, though. The only water problems I've had were a minor leak from my sliding door (fixed about a week after I complained, when they redid the upstairs neighbor's balcony) and a leak in my kitchen ceiling when my upstairs neighbor's washing machine drain sprung a leak.
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I have some stuff I flush down the toilet twice a year plus I stopped flushing tampons. I have not had a back up since I started doing that.
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Rotorooter said to use copper sulfate once or twice a year. When I pointed out that they had been there less than half a year ago they suggested every two months. The landlord forgot to put the copper sulfate in. The bill from Rotorooter should prompt his memory. I am supposed to open up the drain in the floor and pour it in directly. Sold at hardware stores. I might buy a few cans and have the landlord reimburse me. He has been good about spraying the wasps' nest over my door when I ask him to. That is certainly not a problem of rental property alone. Another advantage of living downstairs is that it is not as hot in the summer. The floor is rather cold in the winter though, maybe 45. (It is over a 38 degree basement, or maybe colder. The bathroom is about 38). Does anyone remember how long it takes badly pulled muscles to heal enough to sit upright without hurting? I am going back to bed again.
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This item is for system announcements
Re #65:
I've found that low environment temperatures tend to increase the
occurrence of muscle cramps. You might consider warming your quarters up
a bit this occasion.
im lost
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Oops - it is system announcements, very sorry. I thought it was the happy item for some reason.
It's for Grex system announcements, but *none* of the 70+ responses is a Grex system announcement. This may be some sort of drift record.
The title says "Grex announcements". If it's for system announcements, shouldn't it say "system announcements"?
I own my house so I wont use copper sulfate in the sewer - it reacts with the iron pipes, dissolving them. Yes, almost always when the alarm goes off it is time to have the sewer reamed. I have used a couple of companies: one is good, the other is lousy. I am now trying "Foaming Root Killer", which is a herbicide and, and foams onto all the surfaces of the sewer (maybe - I can't see) and is supposed to be effective for a year. We'll see.
Re #73: Well, the item text does say it's for system announcements, but I agree that it would be clearer if that were in the item title as well. When anybody *does* have a system announcement, I'm sure they'll put it here. (Where it won't be seen by the folks who have forgotten the item because it's so drifty...) Okay! Everything in this item after the following dashed line *has* to be a Grex system announcement. Violators of this edict are subject to, um, well, I'll think of something suitably dire. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
I would like to announce that I have the coolest husband in the whole world.
He can't really penalize you for that, can he?
But I want to find out more about this foaming root killer stuff.
If the Grex system has a sewer that is being clogged by roots, they might consider using Roebic's Foaming Root Killer, available at local hareware stores. (I cannot confirm that it works, nor guarantee that it is free of environmentally harmful compounds, except that it IS only 0.55% active ingredients.) This does not reflect any personal animosity toward roots, but just a desire to eliminate their slowing down and eventual freezing of the (sewer) system.
Please be nice to your roots.
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Thanks rane! I hope this hacks all the roots in my system!
How often should one delete the system roots?
Go read the discussion in Coop re: "the new grex" (machine).
The instructions say that an annual turnover of roots is desirable.
And with the newer sort of roots, apparently Sun is no longer required.
There is no Sun in the sewer. That is where only roots dwell.
darwin alert - darwin alert!! sewer rats are evolving into sewer roots!!! (or is it the reverse??) i am glad that carrots do not grow in sewer's darkness ......
are sewer rats any worse than mall rats? really?
Or diag rats, for that matter. (Ahh, summer again... )
those are squirrels!!!
No, they're punks and bums and drifters. But the squirrels are scary too.
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My father died this morning. He's been ill for some time.
Condolences, Jan.
Sorry to hear of your loss, Jan.
Let me know if you need help with anything. I'm close by.
Oh my. I'm sorry.
I hope he was not in pain. Our sympathy to the survivors.
My condolences.
I'm sorry Jan, my thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family.
condolences
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Condolences, Jan.
My condolences, Jan.
Condolences, Jan and Valerie and Arlo and Kendra and the rest of your family.
Jan, I hope you and the family are able to deal with things as best as possible. condolences
Here's wishing condolesences to Jan and hopes that the grieving process will go well.
Sorry to hear that, Jan.
My condolences to Jan and the whole family.
Thanks to all.
I'm sorry, Jan and family.
sorry for your loss, jan. i pray you and yours are bearing up ok.
re #95 -- that is terrible news no matter how long it took to arrive. /crys for janc
Very sorry to hear about your loss, Jan.
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If for some reason you're interested in pictures of my son's birthday party in Tennessee, they can be had at: http://jep.tonster.com/photoalbum/7th_birthday?&page=1
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The polls are now open for voting on a member motion. To read the motion or to vote, type !vote while connected via dialup, telnet, or ssh. Also, read the discussion item on the motion in the Coop conference, item 194. Any Grex user can vote, but only the votes of members in good standing will be counted in determining the outcome. If you are uncertain of your membership status, email treasurer@cyberspace.org. The polls will close at the end of the day (EDT) on Tuesday, July 1.
(Note also that if you vote and then change your mind, you can re-vote. Your new vote replaces the previous one.)
You have several choices: