Grex Health Conference

Item 51: The Weight Loss Diary of "Dr Straight"

Entered by remmers on Thu May 28 16:04:12 1998:

42 new of 77 responses total.


#36 of 77 by remmers on Mon Feb 15 18:06:37 1999:

Re resp:33 - I have days like that too, and usually give in to the
urge (but try to keep to the 40/30/30 ratio of macronutrients when
I do). So far it hasn't resulted in my gaining any weight back.


#37 of 77 by beeswing on Tue Feb 16 04:43:20 1999:

Ehhh. It caught up with me. I am up about a pound and a half. But some 
of that's probably water. I didn't eat well all weekend, definitely too 
much fattening things. It's showing in my skin too. Why did I 
deliberately do this to myself?


#38 of 77 by otter on Sat Feb 27 15:28:28 1999:

ref #37: Good question. Have you come up with an answer?


#39 of 77 by scg on Thu Sep 9 05:21:38 1999:

Interesting item.  I just discovered it.

I'm guessing the pound or two bees was talking about having gained
probably wasn't anything significant.  When I've had regular access to a
scale, I've found myself fluctuationg by that sort of amount very regularly.

Anyhow...  I dont' own a scale, in part because I've never gotten around to
buying one, and in part because I've never been convinced that weight alone
was a terribly good indicator of health.  However, I was discovering last
winter that in addition to looking fatter than I had ever looked before and
having a lot of my older clothes fitting quite tightly, long walks or climbing
stairs were rather difficult.  This became especially noticable when visiting
my parents in their London townhouse, with every room on a different floor,
such that I was constantly going up and down stairs.  I found the first couple
of days to be rather exhausing, before I started getting used to it and having
an easier time of it.  In the couple of years before that I had gone from bike
racing, and training for that a couple of hours a day, to being mostly
sedentary, and eating whatever horribly fatty food was available when I
remembered to eat, which wasn't on any sort of regular schedule.  I weighed
myself at that point, and discovered that I weighed around 190 pounds (up from
120 when I stopped getting taller, and 140 the last time I had been living
a "healthy" lifestyle).  I set out to get myself back into shape.

That trip to London helped a lot in getting started.  The constant running
up and down stairs forced me to get into some semblance of shape very quickly,
as did walking everywhere.  Visiting people who were eating reasonably healthy
food on a fairly regular schedule helped as well, since after a few weeks my
body started expecting that.  By the time I left there, I was already feeling
much better physically than I had when I got there.  When I got home I started
eating on a much more regular schedule than I had been before, eating
breakfast (which I hadn't done on a regular basis in years), lunch somewhere
close to lunch time, rather than forgetting about it all day, and dinner at
something resembling a usual dinner time, when I previously would have finally
been getting around to eating lunch.  Without even thinking about it, I cut
out almost all of the vending machine junk food I had been eating before,
since eating on a more regular schedule meant that I wasn't getting hungry
for snacks in between.  I think I'm now eating more food than I was when I
was gaining lots of weight, which seems counter-intuitive, but I've read that
the body starts storing lots of energy as fat when it doesn't know whether
it's going to get fed again anytime soon, so eating on a regular schedule
probably helped with that a lot.  I think I'm eating a lot less really greasy
food than I was before, mostly because when I'm exercising regularly greasy
food stops tasting very good, but I haven't been ebing very picky about what
I eat for my meals, as long as I'm eating something.

The other piece of what I started doing was regular exercise.  The biggest
thing has been lots of walking (at least an hour, sometimes a lot more, almost
every day).  The time I've been spending walking is time I previously would
have spent at work or watching TV.  I seem to have downgraded the importance
of my job in my time priorities.  Being less of a workaholic is probably a
good thing in general.  I also started biking again, which I hadn't done much
in the last few years.  I haven't managed to work biking into my week day
schedule much, but lately I've been doing an hour or two of road riding on
one weekend day, and a few hours of mountain biking on the other weekend day.

It's now been eight months.  The most important change from my perspective
is that I now feel a lot better than I did before.  I'm also finding that I
have a lot more energy.  I haven't weighed myself recently, but I'm assuming
I've probably also lost a considerable amount of weight.  I think I look a
lot thinner, and clothes that were quite tight a few months ago are now rather
loose.  I'm assuming that if I were to go back to my previous sluggishness
and poor eating habits I would probably once again start feeling like a slug,
and would once again start gaining weight quickly, but I have no plans to do
that.


#40 of 77 by remmers on Thu Sep 9 11:06:17 1999:

Congrats on your progress, Steve. I've found that healthy, regular
eating, plus a reasonable amount of exercise, works wonders. And feeling
so much better is motivation for staying on track.


#41 of 77 by beeswing on Fri Sep 10 04:17:18 1999:

I've been off track lately. I had more free time and was more sedentary 
during the summer, and it's taken its toll. Now school has started back 
and I have less free time and am forced to do a lot of walking. The 
first week was hard... my classes and work are on the fourth floor and 
the elevator's too slow to bother with. Now I need to incorporate the 
gym again, I haven't been in over a month. I am thinking of trying a 
yoga class too.


#42 of 77 by keesan on Fri Sep 10 20:04:02 1999:

I lived on the thirteenth floor one year in Macedonia (the first floor was
one flight up) and decided not to use the elevator.  This was a handy skill
as it was often broken and I was one of the few people who stopped caring.
The first few days were somewhat tiring, of course.  (There was also one
person who managed to walk into the elevator shaft when the elevator was not
there, which may have converted a few other people to walking.  The dorms were
not always maintained properly.)


#43 of 77 by eeyore on Sat Sep 11 02:56:42 1999:

Well, I've been working again at losing weight...eating a bit better, trying
to get more walking done on a regular basis....And managed to drop 8 lbs. in
3 weeks so far.  Just need to drop two more by next Sat. for the 10 I wanted
to drop by my brothers wedding.  And once those ten are gone, I'll go for
another ten....:)


#44 of 77 by otter on Sun Sep 12 22:51:34 1999:

Slow and steady, the same way it went on...
At last count (which I haven't really been keeping) I'm down 57 pounds since
the last week of January. Wlaking is good, and helps bunches. But in order
to feel my best, I need to push my body to (and past!) its limits. My brain
needs that last burning, screaming rep or the forehead-to-the-floor stretch
to feel like I've done something. And needs it on a fairly regular basis. So
I walk four times a week for about an hour and Firm the other three. Seems
to be working so far; I look much smaller than I should for what I weigh.


#45 of 77 by scott on Mon Sep 13 11:19:02 1999:

Wow.  Well, that *is* the way to go.


#46 of 77 by eeyore on Wed Oct 6 05:34:19 1999:

WOO-WOO OTTER!!!!!  :)

Well, I put all the weight back on.  But I'm starting to work at taking it
back off again.  For a few weeks there I could do nothing but stuff my face
with food.  But I'm working on cutting back again, and so far I'm starting
to get a little better.  But I've had several people tell me that I'm looking
thinner...and even though I've put the actual weight back on, I've not put
the bulk on....this makes me a *happy* Meg. :)


#47 of 77 by otter on Mon Oct 11 00:20:29 1999:

er...that should have been "47". Musta lost some brain cells, too. <gulp>
Anyway, I'm on steriods right now for breathing purposes, and they do two very
nasty things. 1) they make me incredibly hungry. 2) they make me all puffy
and fluffy; my face looks like a chipmunk's.
For the appetite, I've been having half a piece of fruit every time I just
know I'll die without food. Also drinking a glass of water before I eat
anything seems to help.
For the Puffies, there's nothing I can think of but to grin and wear fat
pants.


#48 of 77 by beeswing on Sun Oct 17 04:49:56 1999:

Drinking water may also help the puffiness. 

I also starved on steroids. It drove me nuts. I just could not eat 
enough when I took them. Though I didn't notice any weight gain.

I thought they would give me energy, but they wore me out. 


#49 of 77 by remmers on Mon Oct 18 14:54:33 1999:

Not having lost any more weight in a long time, I've not been posting
new responses to my "weight loss diary".  At least I'm not gaining any
back, which is a good thing.

Although I'm now at a weight that is considered "not overweight" by
current standards, I would like to lose another 5 or 6 pounds.  Sigh, I
think that means I'll have to start working out a lot more intensively
than I have been.


#50 of 77 by keesan on Mon Oct 18 16:19:02 1999:

Why do you want to lose 5 pounds when you are at a stable weight and feel (and
look) healthy?  A little extra weight is an advantage in cold weather.  I
usually gain weight in the fall and lose it in hot weather.  The body is set
up to put on a bit more weight as the days grow shorter and colder.  This
protects against chills.


#51 of 77 by remmers on Mon Oct 18 18:40:28 1999:

Vanity, sheer vanity.


#52 of 77 by keesan on Mon Oct 18 21:59:16 1999:

You looked great last I saw you.  The skinniest friend I had in college was
always trying to lose weight.  She looked fat to herself.  There are ways to
measure whether your weight is appropriate for your body build.  Want to
borrow my book?  You need a pair of calipers which you can also borrow.  You
measure your wrist and the flesh below your upper arm.


#53 of 77 by remmers on Tue Oct 19 17:28:00 1999:

Thanks, but the outcome of that wouldn't make any difference in my
attitude, since it's just a vanity thing.  I've measured a different
way, using a tape measure, and I'm within the acceptable range.


#54 of 77 by remmers on Tue Oct 26 17:45:16 1999:

Okay, I've decided to go for it and lose another nine pounds.  My plan
for doing so:

(1) Watch what I eat more closely.

(2) Exercise more.

I'll keep y'all posted.


#55 of 77 by keesan on Wed Oct 27 16:56:50 1999:

I suggest incorporating more exercise into your ordinary life, rather than
doing an exercise program.  For instance, scrape and paint your own garage.
(Thanks for the leftover paint, we have been using it as primer).
Grind your own flour. Make your own bread without a machine.  If you have a
lawn do not own a power mower, or snow blower, or leaf blower.  Bike places
that are too far to walk.


#56 of 77 by remmers on Wed Oct 27 17:18:54 1999:

Most of the things you mention are of a sporadic or seasonal nature,
which ain't good enough.  Nor am I going to give up the power mower
or snow blower.  That said, in addition to an exercise program I
*do* look for ways to incorporate more exercise into my daily life,
for example walking downtown instead of driving.

But exercise programs have worked for me in the past, so I'm not
going to abandon that approach.  I'll let y'all know it's coming
along.  (That reminds me, I have yet to do my power walk around
the neighborhood today...)


#57 of 77 by mary on Thu Oct 28 10:21:25 1999:

I believe in paying people to do the work we don't want to do.  That
leaves us free to enjoy our time off doing exercise and other activities
we enjoy and allows others to make money.  Anything involving electricity
or being two stories off the ground on a ladder gets contracted out to
someone with good health insurance.  ;-) 


#58 of 77 by remmers on Thu Oct 28 16:53:54 1999:

That too.

Actually, Sindi's advice has merit, but it's essentially the same advice
she gave when I first posted this item a year and a half ago.  I didn't
follow the advice then and lost over 25 pounds.  So I think that not
following Sindi's advice has proved to be a winning strategy for me.  :)


#59 of 77 by i on Thu Oct 28 21:52:14 1999:

Another couple years at -16 lbs./year and you'll start taking her
advice more seriously!


#60 of 77 by keesan on Fri Oct 29 17:33:27 1999:

Jim says there are also people who pay other people to walk in circles for
them (pledge per mile) and suggests you pay someone to lose weight for you. :)
He would offer himself but being a vegan he cannot afford to lose any.
(He will refrain from nominating any other grex members for the job but
suggests people offer to lose weight for other people through the grex
auction, at $5/pound).


#61 of 77 by remmers on Fri Oct 29 21:45:57 1999:

Hm, an intriguing idea.  Sorta like men in bygone wars who paid someone
to be conscripted in their place.  I have a feeling there's a flaw in
Jim's suggestion; maybe I'll figure out what it is if I really put my
mind to it...


#62 of 77 by scott on Fri Oct 29 21:51:28 1999:

Well, it's nice that Jim and Sindi get all their exercise in the course of
normal activities (although not without occasional overuse injuries, it
appears).  But not all people are the same.  I used to depend on martial arts
for most of my exercise, but it turned out some muscles didn't get their fair
share and resulted in problems I could only fix by specific exercises.


#63 of 77 by keesan on Sat Oct 30 00:22:58 1999:

My injuries were not from normal activities.  I injured my arm one time
cutting an awful lot of cement-board siding with a knife, and the other time
falling off my bike because I had been up late too many nights at Kiwanis.
I have never hurt myself shoveling snow or digging the garden or washing
laundry by hand or baking bread.  I do seem to have reinjured my broken arm
slightly lifting 34 pound boxes of chestnuts the same day that I moved a lot
of building materials.  This is not everyday exercise, it does not pay to
overdo it as you say.
I think I should not try to lift anything weighing more than a quarter of me.
Biking 3-5 miles a day is normal exercise.
So is shoveling snow at three locations all winter.


#64 of 77 by scott on Sun Oct 31 02:22:40 1999:

Ah, but perhaps your injuries might have been less or even prevented by having
more muscle in place!


#65 of 77 by remmers on Sun Oct 31 11:12:58 1999:

T'is the Halloween candy season, so my weight loss program is on
hold until tomorrow.


#66 of 77 by mary on Sun Oct 31 12:21:11 1999:

You're just looking forward to the bundt cake I'm making
for the Linquist meeting.  Be honest. ;-)


#67 of 77 by beeswing on Sun Oct 31 18:15:17 1999:

All I know is, I've OD'ed on Sweet Tarts and I feel like I'm 
hallucinating...


#68 of 77 by remmers on Mon Nov 1 00:14:04 1999:

Re resp:66 - That too.  I'm experiencing a double sugar whammy
at this point in time.


#69 of 77 by keesan on Mon Nov 1 14:59:24 1999:

Does more muscle prevent tendon injuries?  I think I sawed through the tendon
by overuse.  It hurt but the job had to be finished.  I don't think that
tendons get stronger if you use them more, just muscles.  Maybe doing pushups
would make my arm bones bigger and stronger?


#70 of 77 by scott on Mon Nov 1 15:45:17 1999:

Bones do benefit from weight lifting.  Somehow having muscle does support the
tendons better, if I recall from the wrist tendonitis therapy I had.


#71 of 77 by rcmajhi on Sat Nov 13 22:45:00 1999:

help
a help


#72 of 77 by remmers on Wed Nov 17 13:23:10 1999:

Sure, I'll help if I can.  Are you overweight?


#73 of 77 by eeyore on Fri Mar 9 04:07:15 2001:

Well, it's been a long time since this started...how well did the writing
everything (or a bunch, at least) help you?


#74 of 77 by scg on Mon May 20 07:19:00 2002:

It looks like I posted something here three years ago about my attempts to
get into better shape.  I made some progress then, but backslid considerably.
A year ago, I was up around 220 pounds (up from 120 when I stopped getting
taller, I think).  I stopped drinking pop very often, and then expanded that
to other foods with large quantities of refined sugar, because they weren't
making me feel good.  I once again started making an effort to run or bike
for a while every other day or so, and have kept that up for the last year.
With those lifestyle changes, I've now dropped down to about 170 pounds, so
I guess this means I'm really making progress this time.  I'm feeling great,
and did a 108 mile bike ride with more than 8,000 feet of elevation gain a
couple weeks ago, and have been doing 50-70 mile rides with a local club most
other recent weekends.

The web based ideal weight calculators I've found say that I'm still 15 pounds
overweight.  I know I've been considerably lighter than this, so maybe they're
right.  On the other hand, the biking is probably building considerably more
leg muscle than normal, and that must weigh something.  After falling really
fast for a while, I seem to be losing weight far more slowly now, so I'm
guessing I'm now approaching where I'm likely to be as long as I can keep up
my current lifestyle (which I'm enjoying a lot, so hopefully I'll stick with
it).


#75 of 77 by scott on Mon May 20 12:20:09 2002:

The current weight guidelines are a bit off for athletes.


#76 of 77 by keesan on Mon May 27 02:54:05 2002:

Jim is overweight according to the weight tables.  People keep telling him
he is too skinny.  Yes, muscle is heavier than fat and the average American
does not have much to base the weight tables on.  That is marvellous progress,
Steve - you are a lot better off being in such great physical shape even if
you don't fit the weight tables.  Bones are also heavy and they get heavier
when you exercise.  A more accurate way to measure overweight is by pinching
the fold of fat under your upper arm.  I have instructions in a book.  It
helps to have a caliper (something to measure the thickness of the fold).


#77 of 77 by scg on Thu Jun 6 07:11:03 2002:

I mostly figure that my body will adjust itself to the lifestyle I'm living,
so if I make an attempt to do reasonably healthy things, however my body
responds is probably ok.  Given what I can now do that I couldn't do a few
months ago, and how I'm feeling, I think I'm doing pretty well.  I'm still
dropping weight, although not as fast as I once was.  If I start gaining
significant weight again I may worry, but for the moment I think I'm in pretty
good shape.


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