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Well, it's the ultimate day of the election. If you've not yet voted, you have until 23:59 EST.
The votes have now been counted. cross, kentn and tod each received one vote from members. cross received two non-member votes, while kentn and tod each received one non-member vote. So cross, tod, and kentn have each been elected to a two-year term as a Director of Cyberspace Communications, Inc. There is one Directorship vacant.
Call to action for Sindi.
I've installed the "par" paragraph formatter on Grex. If you've used the
"fmt" text formatter, "par" can do the same thing and a lot more. For
example, you can set it up to understand comments so that reformatting
comments works like you'd expect.
For example, if you had comments in code like these and wanted to reformat
them to a wider width:
# Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet,
# consectetur adipiscing
# elit. Nulla consequat, ipsum
# sit amet placerat blandit, nisi
# eros interdum nunc, sit amet
# facilisis enim est nec neque. In
# venenatis, odio sit amet eleifend
Using fmt, you might get:
# Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, # consectetur adipiscing # elit.
Nulla consequat, ipsum # sit amet placerat blandit, nisi #
eros interdum nunc, sit amet # facilisis enim est nec neque.
In # venenatis, odio sit amet eleifend
with the comment characters embededded in the resulting formatted
paragraph.
Using par, you'd get:
# Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Nulla
# consequat, ipsum sit amet placerat blandit, nisi eros interdum
# nunc, sit amet facilisis enim est nec neque. In venenatis, odio
# sit amet eleifend
Because par can handle comments appropriately, it brings the comment
characters to the beginning of each line. This is real handy for
programmers doing comments. Par also handles hanging indents correctly
(if you have text with 2 or more indented lines). There are lots of
options to par. See the man page, which includes a number of "before
and after" examples of what par can do.
I'm using the vim text editor to filter these paragraphs through the
formatter program (with !}fmt or !}par). You can run other amounts
of text through these formatters, using the appropriate text objects.
Mostly, I use par to format paragraphs of comments. par is not specific
to vi or vim, so can work from the command line or in other editors
or applications.
Thanks kent! Does it default par to 80 col? ..
I've used it for bbs responses and it seems to work okay (lines aren't too long). The default seems to be more like 70 or 75. You can try 'par 80' and see. It probably still won't format to exactly 80 characters by default. It tries, generally, to format the lines into something that looks reasonable, so a lot depends on how much text there is to format, in addition to whatever default or specified width there is. Since it won't go over the line length specified, and it has to break on word boundaries, the lines end up no longer than the width specified and are sometimes quite a bit shorter, depending on the length of the words you use and where they land in relation to end of each line.
I'm not a programmer but that looks very useful.
I'd like to announce that I'm still successfully able to use the
MindTerm java terminal to connect to Grex. It takes a several extra
clicks to let your browser and Java know you are aware the connection
may not be secure, etc. But after that, it worked for me, using Firefox
v48. This may be an alternative for those who cannot install a terminal
such as PuTTY to connect, or for connecting via a tablet for cellphone
(if you don't have a terminal app installed there). A lot depends on
how picky your browser is about running Java applications. YMMV.
https://grex.org/mindterm/applet.html
Sorry for the downtime overnight. I'm having to migrate VM's around to different hardware, and Grex was moved to the new system. Please let me know if there are any issues noticed with this.
Thanks for the update, Tony.
re #9 Are you using VCenter Express?
#9 So far so good.
resp:11: I was using vcenter (full version) previously, but I'm now running xenserver as my vcenter and vsphere licenses are all expiring. :(
re #13 :( Do you need a license for arbornet or grex? Whats the cost of vsphere? How much was full vcenter?
The "tree" command is now installed on grex. This presents a
text tree listing of files in a directory structure. The output
looks like this:
/var/tmp> tree
.
|-- pw.3DHUshDcN0
|-- pw.tOK6iWCz5D
`-- vi.recover
|-- recover.cLdYADPwjG
`-- vi.FTHZBkBpFx
1 directory, 4 files
Is there any app for old feature phones with java that will ssh to grex? midpssh would not work for me.
re #15 Coool, thanks Kent re #16 I used to get to grex via blackberry java ssh
I don't have a blackberry phone. midpssh is a java app. I found an ssh app for palm that works but the font is so miniscule it is useless. Could not find settings. pssh.
To make the Linux prompt and command output readable, you can increase the Font size. From the MidPSSH menu -> Select Settings -> Select Fonts and set the following values accordingly as shown in the Fig below. Font Size: Tiny, Device, LCD 36 etc. By default Tiny is selected. Changed this to Device. LCD Font Mode: RBG or BGR. Foreground Color Background Color
It is pssh that is too tiny to read. Midpssh simple would not work for me. I think I got a white screen. Does it work on your java-based phone I just got an email forwarded (because of its size) from Administrator@cyberspace.org telling me to run the attached zip file to update my Web Mail certificate. As far as I know we have no webmail. 'Download and launch file'. I suppose I could print out the characters in it and make it into a paper boat and launch that.
I was down in middle-earth and my ram's horn did not call the elven figures or the frost giants.
Grex administrators will not ask you for your password or have you install downloaded files. We can reset your password for you. Do not open any attached files in spam e-mails. The vast majority of them contain viruses and other malware. Be careful of attached files in e-mails you did expect to receive, too. Don't click on links in e-mails, either, for the same reason. And no, we don't have web mail on Grex.
I can't open them with pine or mutt anyway. Just wanted to let grex admin know about this spam. Grex outgoing mails are being blocked by both Barracuda (includes SBC) and Yahoo (includes ebay, Nextdoor, ecycle, frontier, and half my friends). Same with sdf mails, for at least the past week. Can someone at least fill out the form at Barracuda to unblock us? I am using fastmail as a backup but they plan to drop support for non-javascript browsers.
We're not really in a position to support email anymore. There are better alternatives, such as getting a GMail account and talking to it using imap or something.
I normally use sdf, with grex as a backup for bad-yahoo days. Grex is rarely blocked by yahoo.
resp:14: Far too much to buy for my needs. I didn't purchase it before, I had a license from when I worked at vmware. Sadly, I no longer do. :( In other news, it seems I've just paid for another 2 years of grex's domain names. Happy New Year! In related news, does anyone know why we're paying for private registration? Seems like a silly expense, even if it is only $10/yr.
No idea; seems kind of wasteful to me.
re #26 Generous, thanks!
Can you hear me?
No.
See me Feel me Touch me Heal me -- Peter Townsend (NOT "Hear me")
Fly like a song, fly while you're singing A song without you is a bird without winging Some city flights leave in the morning Some city nights end without warning Can you hear me call? -- Betty Thatcher (Renaissance)
You didn't need To do that to me .
Come on and touch me When we're dancing You know you've got that loving touch (Loving touch)
If you didn't notice from the Grex problems item, Dan Cross upgraded Grex's OpenBSD to version 6.1. Grex was inaccessible for a few days during this process. Many applications have been updated to newer versions. If something is missing or not working right, post about it in the problems item and let staff know.
FYI: I've rewritten the `menu` shell. As far as the user interface is concerned, this version is a more-or-less faithful recreation of the previous version, though there are some minor differences in some of the details. This version is written in `go`; the older version was written in C and was something of a nightmare.
FYI: I'm going to write about Grex a little bit in the `agorage` conference (conf:agorage). Check it out if you're interested. Or don't.
"conf:" is a neat trick, like "resp:". Are there any other tags like that we can put in bt posts? References to to responses in other items and items in other conferences would be us useful. Are such tags documented anywhere? I've searched the bt documentation on unixpapa.com but haven't found anything.
There will be downtime tomorrow as I attempt to migrate Grex to different hardware. I need to repurpose the hardware Grex is currently running on, and need to figure out a way to move the VM.
The transition to the other hardware was completed successfully. Apologies for the downtime.
Thanks for taking care of the old girl. ;) May I ask on what hardware Grex is now running? Is it in a VM?
re #41 My guess is raspberry pi 3 :)
Thanks for taking care of Grex, Tony!
M-Net and Grex both became VM's several years ago. They exist today on an HP bl495c G5 server blade.
Millenium Falcon
Good job for keeping grex alive. Thanks for the hard work!
Yes, Tony! Hats off
GREX is an even more hidden gem of the net than Tildeverse. I really like this place.
Indeed, it is. A little too hidden and underused.
We need to get a wordle-like game running the Games conference. It's similar to the 5-letter match game.
Well, well, well cyberspace is alive and well :) Howdy folks! Greetings from the InfinitelyRemote ;)
There goes the neighborhood
resp:50 You mean like we used to do 20 questions with one "master" who thinks of the word and the rest of the players making guesses to which the master reports results (letters correct; letters used in other position)?
Oh, i thought this was like a 'safe' word
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