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why does grex need new party admins? is somebody resigning? Or doyou think there just need to be more?
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I'm willing to help out where I can.
Well, I can be a party-admin, I suppose... I meet the qualifications, and I would love to be able to finally get the things done to my channel that I have wanted done for a while :-) So, sign me up.
I would love to be party admin but then you would have to teach me first ;)
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It doesn't sound too difficult. I should be around for a while yet:) Just send me some e-mail Valerie if I can be of assistance.
ditto above. It sounds easy, if dull and repetitive.
Yeah, sort of like being a mail carrier. Just don't go postal.
guess I'm entering this conversation a little bit late... :) I'm sure I'll be around grex for awhile, so... I can help out if it's needed :) I can always use a new something to do :)
Valerie, I'd love to do it. I've been on grex for four years now and Love being here.. I have asked to be a partyadm In the past but rejected for some reason. I have scripts to Edit noistabs and auto sort them.. you can look at them ./dynamo and /dynamo1 in my dir.. I am good wiht unix and Would love to help if you would let me... And I do plan on being here for a long time.. and do get on alot... Please let me help where I can... I'm on every night from 8:30 to 11:00 e-mail me or my Aol Instant messenger screen name is Wkhsdrumer. Let me know Thanks -Jim
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Well, Good question Valerie... I edited the progies and gave them to him.... for his chan... Nope he's really gone he turned into a big druggie and died! So you need my help!?
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re #13... that last sentence is a metaphor, right; not a reality?
re #15 No Tsty it Is a reality... Rip
I would be honored to be a party adm. I love getting into computer stuff and I love interacting with all grexers.... I am on all the time too=). Heck since I live on grex I might as well help out at the same time right? I am friendly outgoing, well known on grex=), and I work hard..... Drew is also a very good canidate in my opinion he is very friendly and very intellegent. Thanks=)
heh :-) Thanks for the plug, Megz :-) To clarify the previous, I am "drew" ;-)
No probelmo sweety i love you man=)
So, whats the current state of the request for partyadmins, Valerie?
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How 'bout following past practice?
A staff recommendation to board, and action at the next BOD meeting?
"after much discussion"?
The problem here is that staff is less in touch with the people using party these days than we used to be. For many of the candidates, we don't know them very well, and don't know how they get along with regular users of party. The feedback on the candidates that we get here in "coop" is of limited use, because this person would be dealing primarily with the party crowd who aren't extremely we represented here. We need a decision process that brings more party users into the loop. That's why the board/staff "needs to figure out how to make a decision."
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The fact that this was under discussion was well-advertised in the motd, but not too many partiers showed up here to put in their two cents, or to volunteer. So maybe it doesn't matter too much to the typical party person who gets the job. Party doesn't need a whole lot of administrating anyway, does it? Apart from installing noises and establishing vanity channels, what is there to do? Things pretty much run themselves. So maybe the choice doesn't matter very much, as long as the person knows how to do things and does them in a timely fashion.
I'm on staff, and spend a fair bit of time in party. I think I have a fairly good sense of who most of these people are. Some other staffers are in party a lot too.
I'm never in party...but, why not let those in party make the choice?
I don't think the great number of party ravellers care too much who has the job, as long as they are prompt in meeting their responsibilites.
John's response (#28) seems accurate to me. I spend a fair amount of my time in party and I believe most party users could care less who was doing the job, so long as the job was being done.
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Then maybe the staff should make the choice based on technical and people skills. The people in party had plenty of notice that this issue was up for discussion, but few bothered to participate in the discussion.
I agree.
And it seems that, mostly, the partiers in here ratify the idea of staff making a recommendation.
Well I came to offer my services, not only as a party administrator. I am willing to help out in anyway that I can. It seems as though you guys already have some great canidates, but just in case I am going to tidy up my noisetab. I think everyone knows me, I am on quite a bit. Well if the party administrator job has been filled please let me know if there is anything else I can do. Thanks!
i am willing to help out in anyway i am if you hadn't noticed i live here=) so i am willing to help and i live interacting with everyone it is so cool..
Considering it's been nearly a month since this issue was raised, can we assume that the problem isn't as serious as was first thought?
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Okay, thanks. I'll look out for news at that time.
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Board approval isn't necessary. The applicable policy on appointments
is as follows (from the minutes of November 16, 1994:
Motion (remmers, srw):
Staff with permanent root access may at its discretion grant
specific resources to qualified individuals for the purpose of
performing work that is beneficial to Grex. Examples of such
resources would be write access to selected directories in
order to modify data files or to install software. In the the
event of an emergency, temporary root access may be granted by
any permanent root.
Permanent root access, access to the staff conference, and
access to the "baff" mailing list shall be with the advice and
consent of the Board.
Passed unanimously (6-0-0).
Since partyadm's don't get root, staff conference access, or "baff"
mailing list access, the staff can just appoint 'em.
I wrote the above policy, and was trying to keep bureaucratic machinery
to a minimum.
Kewl, thanks for the update Valerie and rules John:)
Yeah, we know that's how the board vote went, but more recently the board has aproved party administrator and cfadm candidates, so we felt it was a good idea to send this to the board for final aproval.
But at least one person expressed impatience with the slowness of the process. So although it might be a good idea to send it to the board for final approval, it might also be a good idea not to. In any case, just thought I'd point out that the written policy allows the staff to act on its own here.
Thanks John! That's very sincere and kind of you.
Glad to know what's going on :)
Someone might want to take down the message that shows up on join to chat. I thought Grex was still looking for admins...
I doubt you phony staff selected me, but either way you can stick my offer to help out with party admin. You just really pissed me off. I won't be answering anymore !help requests in the future, either.
Did I miss something here?
I want to clarify that not all Grex staff are phony, though decency is in short supply.
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I just e-mailed Valerie before and apologised for letting some personal dramas interfer in other matters (incl., in particular, this matter!). I'll understand if you don't want me fulfilling the position, but if you can forgive me I'd gladly take on the responsisibilty of a party admin position.
I think it's rather important that partyadms not let their personal squabbles spill over into the execution of their duties.
I agree, Mark...I was rude and I'm sorry for that.
I would just like to throw in my 2 cents and say that I still think that Mic would do a really go job as a partyadmin. He's a really cool guy, and well, we've all got our bad days...I'm not trying to push my opinions or anything, I just honestly think that he could do a good job.
good even :)
Thanks for your comments, Nissa. They don't want me, though. Best wishes to you and Laura. At least you were the two other candidates and I bought to your attention/suggested the nominations:)
sorry Mic, *hug* well...I tried :)
No problems Nissa. Life goes on:) (HUGS)
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