Wnat to see an item from another cf linked to coop? Enter the request here, or mail one of the fairwitnesses. Most immediately, what items do you want linked from the previous co-op?15 responses total.
This doesn't quite belong in this item but I'm wondering why the Co-op announcement item is a moderated item. Folks are asked to submit any announcements to the fairwitnesses instead of just entering the announcements. Why? Is this really necessary?
not necessary atall...in fact COOP doesnt reallyneed a fair witness and *probably* dfoesnt need re-starts either.
I don't like the moderated announcements item.
It does kind of make sense to me. If the idea is to have a place where important things can be anounced and won't get burried in the clutter, moderating the item is about the only way it can be done. If people want to discuss something said there, a new item can be started for it. At the same time, though, it could lead to problems of having only one point of view in the anouncements item, and in that sense it isn't good. One of the Coop FWs is a reasonable person. I hope that will make such a setup managable.
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Heh. Are y'all aware that Item 1 of the previous Coop was also a moderated announcements item? Quite possibly not. Guess how much it was used. Since Picospan more or less guarantees that you're only shown each response once, putting my announcement in a frozen item, with no discussion allowed, will mean that my announcement will get minimal exposure. People will see it once and probably forget that it was ever there. Allowing discussion at least has the effect of reminding people that the announcement exists. So I won't use Item 1 for my own announcements, if any. I'll put 'em where they can be responded to and take my chances with the discussion, as I think that approach will enhance their effective- ness. But this is the link request item and I'm drifting, so I'll shut up now.
Actually, it's only in the privious (and this) co-op because it was in the one before that, and so I put it in these too. It makes no difference to me, as I've never used it. I can go unfreeze it if people want. I really see no use for it at all.
I think an announcement item could be a good place to ask short questions that folks might not feel warrant a full, new item. I just don't think having a moderated interface is helpful. I don't worry much about items getting messy. I tend to think the priority should be on making it easy and comfortable for folks to join in. Having your question screened before entry doesn't make it easy or comfortable. Thanks for opening the item, dang.
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I'd much prefer it unfrozen.
Item 1 is now unfrozen. In future co-ops, I think I'll still have a frozen item 1, for the reason Valerie stated, but have the announcements item unfrozen.
Thanks, Daniel.
That's good. I guess we need to think about what we need to do about implementing this change. Need to update the bylaws on line, which I guess is the job of Grex Archivist, Mary Remmers. I suppose we right now have one institutional member, convocat. If this is retroactive (I gather Convocat doesn't mind) then convocat loses its vote, and should be taken out of the voters group in the /etc/group file. We should probably update our literature to indicate that (1) institutional memberships are welcome, but (2) they don't get a vote. There'd been talk about having lists of institutional and individual donors on the web page. Probably only people who want to be listed should be. We should think about that.
I think Jan probaly meant to enter this response in item #7 so I'll follow-up there.
Oops, sorry.
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