Grex Coop10 Conference

Item 38: The frequency of future Grex auctions

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#1 of 38 by valerie on Tue Sep 30 03:22:02 1997:

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#2 of 38 by krj on Tue Sep 30 03:57:11 1997:

Would it be possible, or worthwhile, to maintain a presence at the JCC
auctions just to distribute flyers and promote Grex, without actually
carting XTs around?


#3 of 38 by robh on Tue Sep 30 11:47:31 1997:

It probably would - but how much money are we willing to spend on
publicity without any chance of recouping it on sales?


#4 of 38 by valerie on Tue Sep 30 14:34:04 1997:

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#5 of 38 by valerie on Tue Sep 30 14:35:06 1997:

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#6 of 38 by mta on Tue Sep 30 17:50:31 1997:

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#7 of 38 by mta on Tue Sep 30 17:50:41 1997:

If I could borrow a crew of youngsters (and not so youngsters) to help 
me distribute fliers, I'd be willing to do it.  

It would be good if GREX could help defray the cost of admission for 
anyone who can't afford it, though, because it more helpful to walk up 
to people and hand them a flier than to leave a stack of fliers on 
a table.  (We got a lot of bored -non techie- spouses interested in GREX 
that way.)  

8am is a horrid time of day, of course, but it's only a few 
hours a few times per year.


#8 of 38 by aruba on Tue Sep 30 19:11:40 1997:

It seemed to me that the auction went by pretty quickly this year.  Some of
the items, like baked goods and noodles, can be re-created at any time, so
my suggestion is to have the auction twice a year.  Or at least try it; if it
doesn't work, then it doesn't work.


#9 of 38 by mta on Tue Sep 30 20:42:28 1997:

I think twice a year is worth a try, too.  Food seems to go especially 
fast in the summer, but I wonder if handmade goods would go even faster 
in the winter just before the holidays.


#10 of 38 by carl on Thu Oct 2 18:35:49 1997:

I like the idea of twice a year.  And it seems that the beginning of
November would be a good time to start the later one.  (I hope the
auctioneers don't need a lot of recovery time between events!)


#11 of 38 by valerie on Thu Oct 2 20:52:26 1997:

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#12 of 38 by cmcgee on Fri Oct 3 01:20:32 1997:

Is there any reason the auction cant be continuous?  An Item gets posted, the
best bid after 2, 3, 4, weeks takes it, if the money doesnt get to the
treasurer within 2, 3, 4 weeks after bidding closes, the next highetst bidder
gets it.  Or some such thing.


#13 of 38 by jenna on Fri Oct 3 02:48:23 1997:

yes... the reason is because people are more liely to buy from things that
aren't happening all the time. if there was an artfair every weekend, no one
would give a rats ass.


#14 of 38 by senna on Fri Oct 3 05:30:38 1997:

Auction activity among the fws is still winding down (we're still trying to
get those last few deadbeats to pay up).  I'm perfectly fine with another one,
but I get the feeling that the more often we do it the less active it will
be.  I'd even be willing to do something on it (or, I could try to do more
than I did for this one :).  

If it was continuous, I think the annual volume and income would be
considerably less, actually.  People aren't motivated to donate things
continuously, and there's less bidding activity if it's just something you
check ever week.


#15 of 38 by mta on Sun Oct 5 17:32:14 1997:

I agree.  Less is often more in these matters.  When time is of the essence
people are more likely to participate.


#16 of 38 by tpryan on Fri Oct 10 22:45:04 1997:

        While a continueing auction might be good in some ways, such as
a quick turn-around on software and equipment donations, it would 
probably dry up the other kinds of donations to still only once or
twice a year (baked goods, personality items, art, massages, etc).
        In last year's M-net holiday auction, while an item looked
interesting as a gift for the holidays, bidders have learned there
was no cut-off date for bidding, and therefore no promise for
delivery in time for shipping.

        I would like to see a continueing auction for equipment/
software donations, while having a special time of the year, or
special times of the year for the other items.  That special batch
of cookies or whatnot just has to stay rare in order to gather the
bids at any particular time.


#17 of 38 by aruba on Sat Oct 11 00:43:28 1997:

Just a note:  the summer auction is nearly all taken care of now - we're
waiting for one more payment and still checking on a few items that haven't
been delivered yet, but that shouldn't be a barrier to having another auction
in November/December, if that's what we want to do.


#18 of 38 by other on Sat Oct 11 03:14:11 1997:

it seems logical that grex and m-net could join forces, share labour and cost,
and bring in a larger crowd to a combined auction, and there would still be
a fairly simple way to separate the revenue generated.  items to be auctioned
could be labeled and registered with the name of the group to which they
belong, and bidders could be thus informed of where their money is going.
in addition, a little friendly competition could induce loyal donors to come
up with more appealing items to woo bidders away from the other service...

seems like a win-win situation.  any cons i'm missing here?


#19 of 38 by orinoco on Sat Oct 11 13:14:22 1997:

Well, grexers might be disinclined to comment on m-net auction items and
vice-versa.  
What if the revenue from an item went to the system the high bidder belonged
to?  Or was split evenly?  
What if you figured out the proportion of grex items to m-net items and split
revenue that way?
Just throwing out ideas here, I have no clue if they're any good...


#20 of 38 by valerie on Sat Oct 11 13:29:10 1997:

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#21 of 38 by aruba on Sun Oct 12 18:57:20 1997:

Re #18:  How do you imagine a joint auction would be run, other?  Have a
conference on each system and try to keep them in synch?  I'm confused - that
sounds like a lot *more* labor to me.  But maybe I don't understand.


#22 of 38 by other on Sun Oct 12 21:02:31 1997:

actually i had imagined it taking place in person rather than online.
i neglected to note that we were discussing online auctions.
the advantages i imagined for a combined effort don't seem to apply to an
online situation, since the convenience of the bidders isn't much of a factor.


#23 of 38 by valerie on Mon Oct 13 02:31:24 1997:

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#24 of 38 by kami on Mon Oct 13 03:02:08 1997:

re: #17- Um, I haven't got my stuff yet?  More worried about the barrette
than the truffles... 'Niffle.
I agree that noveltly makes it more interesting, hence better attended.
Twice a year *might* be workable, or might be too often.  There're
advantages to summer (folks may have more time and less pressure) and 
to pre-Yule tide (the obvious).


#25 of 38 by arthurp on Mon Oct 13 19:27:53 1997:

I'm working on the truffles.  I think I'll have to make them and deliver 
them and then have class at a more liesurly time.  (recipe is free for 
the asking, and both winners have).


#26 of 38 by other on Mon Oct 13 20:43:16 1997:

re #23:  i think you'd have to ask ivynymph if she'd be willing to let you
auction me off...


#27 of 38 by ivynymph on Mon Oct 13 22:44:03 1997:

 re #26 on re #23:  <sarcastic smirk>  
        Sorry, but other here took too much work and wasted time
        for me to acquire to auction him off just yet.  I'll
        let y'all know if I'm ever willing.  

<ivynymph puts a little "sold" sticker on other's forehead>



#28 of 38 by kami on Tue Oct 14 01:33:25 1997:

OK, Arthur, I think you're right.  Whenever.
Not worrying, really.


#29 of 38 by aruba on Tue Oct 14 01:45:14 1997:

Been working on your barette, Kami; I had hoped birdlady could bring it (and
the other things otter offered) this past weekend, but that didn't work out.
You'll get it, if I have to drive to Kalamazoo!


#30 of 38 by valerie on Tue Oct 14 13:42:16 1997:

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#31 of 38 by kami on Wed Oct 15 19:23:31 1997:

Uh, oh.  What happened to Otter?  This is the first I'd heard.  Can we
help?
Aruba, only if you have enough reasons to drive that far that you want
to- I can't come along until my back is better. <sigh>


#32 of 38 by valerie on Wed Oct 15 20:50:19 1997:

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#33 of 38 by aruba on Wed Oct 15 22:25:22 1997:

All the auction items are now paid for!


#34 of 38 by valerie on Fri Oct 17 02:34:30 1997:

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#35 of 38 by orinoco on Sun Oct 19 20:14:57 1997:

and there was great rejoycing...


#36 of 38 by tpryan on Wed Oct 22 03:18:55 1997:

        mcnally & tsty now have about a 5 year supply of punch cards
each.


#37 of 38 by somebody on Tue Nov 4 02:58:06 1997:

You mean entering a reply in the post about the auction won't get me in? 
Should I just enter a new post in auction?


#38 of 38 by aruba on Tue Nov 4 22:59:15 1997:

No, you're set, Eric - as soon as the new auction conference comes up (RSN),
your donation will be in it.


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