The poetry conference has reached item 1002. I am resigning as fair witness as soon as we get a new fw (I'm restarting it before I hand over my magic wand). I don't know if anyone really cae, but my recommendations for the next fw of the people in there regularly are toking and arianna. I would also recommend craig and rlawson, but they seem to be around even LESS often than me. anyway, I would linke this to poetry, but I think I forgot how. --jenna28 responses total.
I think you can link the item by going to poetry and typing: link coop 27
Yes, that will work. For internal conference business like fairwitness changes and restarts, there's no need for a coop item. Conference participants can just discuss it in the conference; then you can request any changes in mail to cfadm. Speaking as an occasional poetry conference participant, I'll say that I think you've done a wonderful job and I'm sorry to see you go. How many conferences can boast over 1000 items? Regarding the restart, I suggest keeping the old version around for a while as "oldpoetry" to give people a chance to save stuff.
keep it around permanently as "oldpoetry" or something../ if old agoras and coops can be kept around, why not other confs? Of course there isa the "storage" conf, which the items tcan be linked into. Dont just nuke the conf like selena killed the old sex conf... the items deserve to be preserved.
I agree with Richard on that one - I think we can keep it around permanently.
<I like the idea of having the oldpoetry.....>
actually, i would love if if someone could figure otu a quick way to ge6t it on a disk for me (or just onto my harddrive) I tried once via some wacky command rob henderson gave me, but it didn't work. (i mean as a text file, btw) I wasn't quite sure what the proceedurewas for getting a new fw and resigning, so I posted here, so nyah. not like this place is quite so buisy as it once was. How about I post another item in poetry and don't link em, so you coopers don't have to read this nonsense anymore... (unles someone would like to speculate about old poetry and jpw tp tramsfer a wjhole conference onto a pc)
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so... how *does* one get elected to fwship? does jenna just hold the vote in poetry cf?
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I was under the impression that the current fw(s) of any conf could pick their replacements. This goes back to the question everyone has a different answer for, which is "do fw's *own* their confs?" But if an FW picks a replacement FW who nobody in the conf likes, and the conferees complain to cfadmin, what does cfadmin do? I dont think there is anything spelled out about what exactly the rules of fw succession are...maybe there should be?
well, it's not really an issue for here, kerouac. I pointed to a few of the most devoted and oldestusers of the conferences, who I know are responsible and actually will continue to be on the system, but thwy can pick whomever they want.
If it is a matter of th epoetry conf users picking, how should it be gone about? Maybe an item about it, and after "X" number of days counting the vote? Would it be possible to use the vote program for an application like this?
It would, but I think it would be overkill. The way fw changes have been handled in the past is that cfadm gets mail from an fw saying "please add Joe Shmoe as an fw", or "I quit, please remove me as an fw", and cfadm just does it. I'm not aware of any problems that have occurred with this informal approach, and in the absence of such would prefer not to see global bureaucratic procedures instituted. Why fix something that isn't broken? In any case, I don't see a need for a coop discussion of how one particular conference should pick a new fw. Let the conference participants talk about it in the conference, if they want to.
joe... there;s an item in poetry for this right now. i'm just hoping someon actually responds to it, because I couldn't pick between you and erinn
so let joe and erin be co-fw's...no need to choose at all
true... but i was kinda hing someone else gave a damn ;< you go one and on about democracy, richard, but nobdoy but the fw uisually cares who the next fw is.
can't access poetry right now outside of Backtalk anyway so the point is moot...
well not EXACTLY, richard. poetry needs to be put into oldp[oetry (cfadm???) poossibly with the last 8 items chopped off. (they're causig the problems) And the New fw's... (Toking and Arianna) need to start an item #1 lonce that's done.
I've got a question....ARE we the fw's now? or has that not happened yet?
I've added arianna and toking as FWs, and restarted the poetry conference.
Guiding the conference a bit, and freezing and unfreezing items (and maybe not even that)
*blinks* that as out of context, stephen... arianna will be tickled when she finds out she may be moving into her dorm this week, you know
actually, I am (; tickled, that is. problem now is that I don't know any fw commands...... <wanders around aimlessly...>
I have a list of the fw commands. I can mail it to you if you want.
yes please!
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dang...please send those to me also...so far I've been relying on pistacio, and I can't get to it from home
I sent it to Arianna and will send it to toking.
You have several choices: