Grex Coop Conference

Item 328: Validation Report May 2012

Entered by kentn on Thu May 24 12:29:10 2012:

Validation Report, May 2012

I've been validating users since May 5, 2011.  In the past year, I've
done 369 validations (neat how that works out to an average of about 1
per day), of which 289 have logged in again to choose a shell after they
were validated.

I don't have numbers on how many of these folks come back more than once
as validated users or if they become become regular users.  At least we
have a significant percentage of those requesting validation who do
follow through and select a shell (approx. 78%).

Since they asked for validation, this is perhaps expected. We do have
some who ask to be validated, are validated, and never come back (these
we show as "newly-validated"). What we don't know is if the additional
steps of logging in again, changing the password, and selecting a shell
are too much work for some people, or if they just forgot or decided the
service wasn't what they wanted).

Overall we have 958 validated accounts currently.  We have 71 verified
accounts, 2361 restricted shell accounts, and 258 accounts which are in
a "newly-validated" status--have been validated but user did not log in
again.  We have 498 users with /var/mail files.

We do currently allow un-validated users to access the conferencing
system and party system, so they can try out more of the system.

Kent
3 responses total.

#1 of 3 by tonysidaway on Tue Jun 5 07:13:20 2012:

Here is a newbie report for what it's 
worth. I'm at the restricted shell stage, 
and it took me a small but not 
inconsiderable effort to get this far. I 
made two failed attempts, each time 
completing the registration dialog and 
reading the confirmation message saying 
an email had been sent. I'm fairly 
positive there was no slip-up on this 
side, but the finger link on the website 
told me nothing until I went back the 
third time.

It's a good policy to provide the finger 
link. Many sites block that port and I 
wouldn't have thought of trying it 
myself. I'm also happy to see that 
restricted users have conference posting 
rights. 


#2 of 3 by falcon on Sun Sep 30 16:35:13 2012:

I had the same problem when I registered. I went through the process once,
and received no email.  The webpage finger utility allowed me to see right
away that the registration had failed, so I filled the form a second time,
and then I did receive the email.  Now the account is validated.


#3 of 3 by kentn on Sun Sep 30 17:28:27 2012:

We haven't totally figured out yet why newuser sometimes fails.
Sometimes it's obvious, such as a bad e-mail address. The newuser
program does a validity check on the e-mail address/domain and if it
doesn't like what it sees, doesn't create the account.  Thus, we have
some assurance we have a real, valid e-mail address connected with the
account. I suspect this may be the source of some of the un-obvious
e-mail and account creation mysteries, too.

Sometimes our password e-mail is tagged as spam on the user's side,
so that may be a reason why it isn't received, although it is sent.
Staff at grex don't have any way to tell what password was sent in that
newuser e-mail so we can't send it again.  In that case, we can reset
the password, if the account exists.

Unfortunately, about all we do in many cases such as when the home
directory does not exist, is ask that the user to try running newuser
again.


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