Grex Coop Conference

Item 314: User builds of eggdrop running

Entered by bellstar on Fri Jun 17 08:45:18 2011:

A noticed a number of user builds of eggdrop running and a copious number of
outboud IRC connections. Is that intended and allowed behavior?

P.S. I'm not quite sure that many IRC connections at once, for 2-3 users, are
benevolent.
7 responses total.
#1 of 7 by veek on Fri Jun 17 10:27:04 2011:

well they do need more then one IP to SPAM, so as a SPAM proxy we'd suck

#2 of 7 by bellstar on Fri Jun 17 12:38:45 2011:

Botnet control comes to mind. Given particularly the whereabouts of some of
those IRC servers. Also, I seem to remember IRC bots and bouncers were
explicitly forbidden when I joined. Probably just my imagination.

#3 of 7 by kentn on Sat Jun 18 01:24:07 2011:

We did have a no bots and bouncers page with lots of large red type on
the web site for a long time.  However, now it is reduced to: "Sorry,
bots, bouncers and proxies of any kind are not allowed on Grex."
(http://grex.org/staff/bots.xhtml)

See also: http://grex.org/staff/sun/eggdrop.xhtml, although it is
largely historical, it still says "IRC bots (or bots of any kind) are
still not allowed on Grex" in the (modern) preface to the historical
information.
 
So, it still seems to be the policy that we don't allow them.

#4 of 7 by gelinas on Sat Jun 18 02:09:03 2011:

So I guess someone is going to have to do something about the ones we have.

#5 of 7 by kentn on Sat Jun 18 03:19:00 2011:

I see robocop is in rc.local, but it's not running that I can see from
ps output.  It's supposed to take care of processes running after users
log out as one of its features.  Is there a reason we aren't running it?
Given the updates to the OS in the last year I was wondering if it still
worked.

#6 of 7 by bellstar on Sat Jun 18 19:50:21 2011:

A look into what uses those bots are put to may also prove interesting. They
may be harmless. I believe back then the rationale behind forbidding bots and
bouncers was more the scarcity of resources than possibility of abuse.

Incidentally, one person is running multiple instances of psybnc logged in
as different users. Also, multiple such cases of bots and bouncers are being
run by what seems to be distinct people (distinct addresses) from the same
country: Indonesia.

'ps' shows Grex is a lot livelier than it appears on the forums...

#7 of 7 by kentn on Sat Jun 18 21:46:15 2011:

Yeah, one of the reasons we didn't allow bots or bouncers was due to
the amount of network use they cause.  We do need to watch out for that
because we are limited by bandwidth by our ISP.  If more join in, it
could become a problem for us.  And abuse is one of the reasons in the
past used to limit this use of bots and bouncers.  So we need to watch
out for that, too.

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