Grex Coop Conference

Item 292: Nominations Open for 2011 Board of Directors

Entered by remmers on Wed Nov 3 20:07:06 2010:

45 new of 123 responses total.

#79 of 123 by tsty on Sat Dec 11 07:19:30 2010:

tnx remmzie ...

#80 of 123 by sholmes on Sat Dec 11 12:49:49 2010:

what if a candidate inadverdently named a very personal file as "statement"
?

#81 of 123 by cross on Sat Dec 11 13:32:09 2010:

If it's not world readable, I doubt it will show up.

#82 of 123 by remmers on Sat Dec 11 17:22:12 2010:

Right, for the vote program to see a statement, the file has to be world
readable and stored in a directory that is world searchable.

#83 of 123 by tsty on Mon Dec 13 17:08:51 2010:

  
my satemnt is avalaible ... and i fixed all the tpyos.

#84 of 123 by tsty on Mon Dec 13 18:49:17 2010:

  
oh, here;s how:
  
   grex% more ~remmers/ts-statement   
  
from putty anyway.

#85 of 123 by kentn on Mon Dec 13 20:24:29 2010:

Your statement is also appearing on the Board Election web
page, so that's good.

#86 of 123 by remmers on Thu Dec 16 23:39:59 2010:

Okay, the polls are closed now.  I've requested an up-to-date member
list from the treasurer, and as soon as I receive it, I'll tally and
post the results.  (Subject to possible slight delay, as I'll be
traveling tomorrow and unable to get online at times.)

#87 of 123 by remmers on Sat Dec 18 18:06:47 2010:

Um, TS, are you not receiving your mail?  I've asked you a couple of
times for a member list so that I can report the results of the Board
election, but no response.  But I see you posting in BBS, so I'll ask
again here.

#88 of 123 by richard on Sun Dec 19 08:09:25 2010:

re #87 perhaps ts thinks he's going to lose the election, so he's laying
low in order to prevent the results from being certified.  Is TS the
only one who can provide a member list?

#89 of 123 by veek on Sun Dec 19 09:11:06 2010:

he wouldn't have stood for elections if he was worried about defeat

#90 of 123 by jgelinas on Sun Dec 19 12:33:37 2010:

The Treasurer is the only one can certify the member list, because the
Treasurer is the one who receives the dues payments.

#91 of 123 by cross on Sun Dec 19 13:25:23 2010:

resp:88 You take Grex way too seriously.  TS has provided the list to the
board.

#92 of 123 by remmers on Sun Dec 19 13:38:11 2010:

Okay, I received the list of eligible voting members from TS and can now
report the election results.  Ten of twelve eligible members voted,
results as follows:

    gelinas     5
    jadecat     4
    tsty        1

Joe Gelinas has been elected.

(Unofficial non-member votes:  Four non-members voted.
    gelinas     2
    jadecat     2)

#93 of 123 by cross on Sun Dec 19 13:44:15 2010:

Congratulations, Joe.

#94 of 123 by mary on Sun Dec 19 14:05:56 2010:

Thanks to all three candidates for being willing to serve on the board. 
That's a generous offer.

#95 of 123 by jgelinas on Sun Dec 19 14:20:02 2010:

Half of you voted for me.  I appreciate the confidence. :)

#96 of 123 by mary on Sun Dec 19 14:33:27 2010:

I hope you can still appreciate it in another month, or six. ;-)

#97 of 123 by tsty on Sun Dec 19 15:48:57 2010:

  
congratz gelinas....

#98 of 123 by jadecat on Sun Dec 19 16:39:01 2010:

I'll say it again here- Congrats Joe. :)



And thank you to everyone who voted for me. Maybe we'll try again next 
year!

#99 of 123 by richard on Sun Dec 19 17:58:54 2010:

darn if tsty hadn't voted himself (presumably) there could have been a
runoff

#100 of 123 by jgelinas on Sat Dec 25 19:59:47 2010:

Perhaps it's time to remove the link to the voting booth from the home
page?

#101 of 123 by kentn on Sat Dec 25 21:22:47 2010:

Yes, it is.  I have a patch for it if any root wants to apply it to
the subversion repository and regenerate the web site.  Let me know
if you want it.

#102 of 123 by jgelinas on Sun Dec 26 12:11:08 2010:

(It really shouldn't be that hard to comment out a single line of the
page.  Just do it, already.)

#103 of 123 by veek on Sun Dec 26 12:14:19 2010:

if someone is patching stuff.. i have a patch in ~veek/latest.diff

#104 of 123 by kentn on Sun Dec 26 15:51:50 2010:

The patch I sent does comment out the line of code.  Please patch
the related file in the repository so we can keep all the changes
in in sync and up to date.

#105 of 123 by remmers on Sun Dec 26 15:54:04 2010:

(Re resp:102 - I agree, seems like overkill.)

#106 of 123 by kentn on Sun Dec 26 16:30:06 2010:

I disagree.  It is not overkill.

#107 of 123 by jgelinas on Thu Dec 30 20:59:36 2010:

(Bureaucracy will kill us yet.)

#108 of 123 by kentn on Thu Dec 30 21:05:30 2010:

If the benefits of version control aren't clear, then I'm left to wonder
how much programming project experience staff have in a multi-programmer
and multi-file environment.

#109 of 123 by jgelinas on Sun Jan 2 12:49:43 2011:

Yes, the benefits of version control are clear to me.  However, we are
talking about simply adding <!-- and --> around a block of text.  If
they get lost, it's a simple matter to re-add them.  For that, version
control, of any kind, is overkill.

#110 of 123 by kentn on Sun Jan 2 13:43:26 2011:

So, you'd use version control for some changes and not others?  That
makes no sense.   And not using version control at all makes less
sense.

#111 of 123 by veek on Sun Jan 2 14:35:34 2011:

resp:109 the difficulty might be in synchronizing stuff? If you add
comments by bypassing svn, when you next rsync, won;t those comments get
clobbered?

#112 of 123 by jgelinas on Sun Jan 2 16:51:26 2011:

Minor stuff that didn't really matter if it got clobbered, I'd simply
make sure that all concerned knew about them and worry about
version-control later.  ("We don't need no stinkin' source!" as one
programmer of my acquaintance once put it.)

Make this trivial change on the fly, then patch and submit a
version-controlled copy.

If I were doing this stuff regularly, I might even batch up a bunch of
trivial changes.  If they got clobbered, I'd cuss at myself and submit
my updates. :)

#113 of 123 by richard on Tue Jan 4 21:33:51 2011:

So is Dan Cross intent on maintaining his seat on the Grex board?  I 
ask this because he stated emphatically last month that he would leave 
Grex if there was continued discussion citing the leaked wikileaks 
documents, as he said it could be problematic to his military status.  
Then Mary said she was going to enter yet another wikileaks item in the 
new agora and he responded that he was in fact leaving, and hasn't 
posted since.  It reasonable to ask if he intends to continue being 
part of the board of the corporation that sponsors grex when it is 
clear that the wikileaks items will continue.  

If Dan has in fact gone away for good he should at least go ahead and 
resign his seat rather than create needless potential quorum problems 
at future meetings.

#114 of 123 by slynne on Tue Jan 4 21:48:36 2011:

Why should Dan give a rats ass about Grex at this point? It would be
*nice* of him to resign formally if he really doesn't intend to come
back. But if I were treated the way he was treated, I would just leave
and not concern myself with the problems of the assholes I left behind.

#115 of 123 by kentn on Tue Jan 4 22:08:31 2011:

Read resp 0 again: "Dan has served two consecutive terms and is
therefore ineligible to run this time..."

As it is January, his term has expired, therefore, no need to resign.

#116 of 123 by slynne on Tue Jan 4 22:35:02 2011:

See there you go. Problem solved.

#117 of 123 by jep on Tue Jan 4 22:56:45 2011:

Dan said he would be traveling in India and would not be participating
on Grex for a month.  I hope he will return and continue working as a
staff member after his vacation is done.  If he doesn't, I think it will
be sad for Grex and possibly disastrous.  I have no idea who else will
do all the work he has done.

#118 of 123 by slynne on Tue Jan 4 23:05:10 2011:

resp:117 Over the holiday, I spoke with my brother about this stuff
since my brother is a federal employee. He said that even though he
actually has the security clearance necessary to view the Wikileaks
documents, he also has been forbidden from viewing the wikileaks sites
or any mirror sites. So Dan has a legitimate issue. However, when I
explained the technology and forgetting items, he said he thought that
would be ok. He has not been banned from reading news articles, even
those that quote from the Wikileaks site.

 So if Dan wants to return here after his holiday, forgetting the items
probably will be sufficient to protect him but, of course, he would want
to talk to his direct supervisor about it since that is who would make
the call.

#119 of 123 by mary on Tue Jan 4 23:39:47 2011:

From talking to folks I know in the military that's my understanding as 
well.  They are using their personal computers to read the news on the web 
and working on disks that have been exposed to WikiLeaks.  Not sure how 
you could avoid that, actually, unless you disconnected from the internet, 
for starters.   

I expect Dan is on vacation and will be back soon.

#120 of 123 by jep on Wed Jan 5 02:29:54 2011:

re resp:119: If he does come back, it was a dirty, rotten, scummy trick
that didn't cost someone else what it could have.

If he doesn't, then it's the same but it costs Dan and all of us. 
Unless, of course, you replace his skills and contributions yourself,
then it just cost us Dan.

It did make your point, I suppose.  You don't care about other people.

#121 of 123 by rcurl on Wed Jan 5 06:07:01 2011:

I don't think anything was done to Dan (apart perhaps from some 
intemperatre language). Nothing has been said here concerning or from 
wikileaks except what is in the public media, and no legal actions have 
been taken against any of the public media. How can such public media be 
verboten?

#122 of 123 by krj on Thu Apr 28 18:08:52 2011:

(( Just for the record, I removed the announcement of the 
2010 election results from the MOTD today. ))

#123 of 123 by kentn on Fri Apr 29 02:45:56 2011:

(( Thanks ))

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