Grex Cooking Conference

Item 178: Feeding The Masses

Entered by orinoco on Sun Jan 14 00:18:43 2001:

15 new of 34 responses total.


#20 of 34 by jaklumen on Thu May 30 08:01:27 2002:

I'm sorry-- I am so confused and I feel so.. um.. rural.. what's a co-
op house?


#21 of 34 by i on Fri May 31 00:24:02 2002:

A co-op house is sort of an urban commune.  Think 60's & hippies, though
things have evolved somewhat since then.


#22 of 34 by jaklumen on Fri May 31 03:55:08 2002:

Interesting.  Evolved like how?  (I'm not a hippie.)


#23 of 34 by orinoco on Fri May 31 06:09:07 2002:

Well, never having lived in a commune...

The members are all partial owners of the house.  They all pay dues that go
towards the upkeep of the house, utilities, and food.  Anything that is bought
with dues is shared (or at least, available to be shared) by the whole house.
The house is, in theory, run democratically.  In practice, it's an oligarchy
run by the couple of people who can be bothered to deal with that sort of
thing.  All the members are assigned a job, or a few jobs, to help keep the
house running.  

I think what's evolved is the attitude behind the co-ops, not the way they
run.  They're less of a Vehicle for Social Transformation these days, and more
of a place to live, or so I'm told.


#24 of 34 by jaklumen on Fri May 31 09:41:54 2002:

It really does sound like an interesting concept, but sounds a little 
more like a glorified roommate thing to me.  Don't think I'd see any 
such thing out here.


#25 of 34 by scott on Fri May 31 12:53:42 2002:

The coop concept goes back quite a ways in rural America, and often just for
the practical purpose of sharing big investments.  My grandpa the wheat farmer
was part of a coop.


#26 of 34 by cmcgee on Fri May 31 13:28:11 2002:

The UM Housing coops were set up in the 1930s, long before the hippies
came along.  

Coops, in general, are an alternative business management system. 

Under the capitalism model the capital for the enterprise is provided
by Party A (investors) so that party B (managers) can use it to hire
party C (workers) and buy machinery to make products that are then
sold to party D (consumers).

This business system is codified in US corporation laws.

Under the cooperative model, the parties are combined.  For example,
in the food coop, the owners of the coop are Party A, C, and D.
Originally they were also Party B, but when the coop got to be a
large business (we do over $4 million a year in sales), we hired
full-time managers and some full time workers.

This business system is codified in US cooperative law.  You may not
call your business a coop unless it meets the legal requirements of
the coop.  

Rural electric coops were an early example of a consumer coop, where
the consumers of a service or product got together to provide it for
themselves.

Credit unions are money coops, where the consumers are also the
owners of the bank.  

Wheat, dairy, and other farm product coops are marketing coops, where
the members provide the capital to market their crops as a single
business, rather than individually.  I think Land O' Lakes dairies
are a coop.  

Anyway, it is an alternative business system, codified in US law, so
that the business is owned by the consumers of the service or
product. Part of the law is that only people who meet certain
criteria can join the cooperative.

In housing coops, you buy a share of the coop, which makes you a part
owner of the house or houses owned by the cooperative.  Some coops
are single family units (in Ann Arbor there are 20 or 30 of them)
others, owned by the UM Housing Coop, are shared living space, whose
membership is limited to students at the UM. In this coop, the work
to maintain and feed the residence and residents is mostly done by
the owners themselves.  




#27 of 34 by orinoco on Sun Jun 2 20:02:51 2002:

(Nitpick:  It's the Ann Arbor Inter-Cooperative Council now, membership is
open to any students at Washtenaw County schools, and non-students can move
in if the house votes to allow it.)

If you're not interested in socialism or alternative business models, then
yeah, it's a glorified roommate setup.  But it's a glorified roommate setup
that seems to work pretty well.  When I shared an apartment with four other
people, nothing got done and we were at each others' throats the whole time.
I lived in a house of 45 people last year, and it ran ten times as smoothly.


#28 of 34 by cmcgee on Sun Jun 2 20:30:21 2002:

Thanks for the nit-picks. I didn't know those things.  


#29 of 34 by jaklumen on Mon Jun 3 07:10:58 2002:

If it works well, wonderful.  That's why I was intrigued.  I don't 
think I'll see it out here, though.


#30 of 34 by cmcgee on Mon Jun 3 12:56:46 2002:

Actually, REI (Recreational Equipment ?I) is one of the country's biggest
coops.  As I remember, they got their start in Oregon or Washington. 


#31 of 34 by orinoco on Mon Jun 3 21:40:20 2002:

A quick web search turned up the Kindermeadow Housing Co-Op in Olympia,
the Sherwood Cooperative in Seattle, a few co-op houses at Oregon State
University, a Student's Cooperative Association in Eugene, and a bunch of
houses in Portland.  Now, these are all probably on the wrong side of the
Cascades from you, right?  I'm not finding any student housing co-ops on
the east side of Washington or Oregon, or any at all in Idaho.

Still, as Colleen points out, there are definitely other sorts of
co-operative businesses in your neck of the woods.

Quick, someone get me off my soapbox...


#32 of 34 by jaklumen on Tue Jun 4 00:12:08 2002:

resp:30 that sounds about right..

resp:31 yep, Dan, all on the west side.  But of course, there are a 
number of farmer co-op stores.  That's it, though.  Pretty basic.  No 
herbs, spices, etc.-- just mostly a Joe Conservative Farmer deal.


#33 of 34 by dtk on Wed Dec 25 20:35:58 2013:

Some techniques are really good for scaling (sous vide, roasting). 

Measure by mass, not volume, as you can scale more easily, and can just retare
to add the next ingredient. 

Use techniques that offer a wide margin for error (sous vide, braising, etc),
since your cadence will be different to cook for 40 versus ooking for 4. 

Fussy dishes and proper plating go out the window unless you have a crew. Just
serve family style. 

Casseroles scale nearly linearly, and are always appreciated.



#34 of 34 by keesan on Thu Dec 26 03:44:17 2013:

Soups stretch easily too.


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