this is the game of nutrition facts labels. someone enters the nutrition facts from the label of a food product, and others guess what it is. the winner gets to enter the next label. this item is usually entered in enigma and linked to kitchen and puzzles, but i'm breaking with tradition and entering it in kitchen first.610 responses total.
serv size: 3 pcs. (2g) servings: about 25 calories: about 10 total fat: 0g cholest: 0g sodium: 0mg total carb: 2g sugars: 2g protein: 0g
Definitely not for diabetics! Are they normally eaten at 2 a.m.?
[This item of fabled tradition is now linked to Enigma.]
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you've just about got it, valerie. do i have to wait for the exact right brand name?
Depends on how picky you feel like being.
in that case, valerie has it. the label is from a box of altoids.
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I would still like to know if it is allowed to enter items that are acquired without a label, such as fresh produce or bulk foods. If we are going to have a potluck, it would be nice to have a few more fruits and vegetables. The public library has several volumes worth of food values in the reference section, I think published by the USDA. (I don't recall seeing kelp in the vegetable one, and most of them were titled things like: poultry, fish, beef...). We could still required that someone actually have the food in their kitchen before entering it.
I don't think there are a lot of rules to this thing, keesan. Enter something fresh and unlabled and see how it goes.
I didn't know you were required to have the food - I thought you just had to know the stats, from whatever source.
On the assumption that Valerie's cupboard is bare (it has been five days), or that she is down with the flu, I will enter the following purchased from Arbor Farms in a container marked 'High in iron, calcium and protein'. Net Wt. 12.0 OZ. (340g) Serving size approx. 1/4 cup (45g) Servings per container 8 Calories 160 fat cal. 10 Total fat 1.0 g 2% Saturated fat 0 g Cholesterol 0mg Sodium 5mg Potassium 220 mg Total carb. 32 g 11% Dietary fiber 6g 24% Sugars 0g Protein 5g Vitamin A 0, Vitamin C 0, thiamine 10%, riboflavin 2%, niacin 4% calcium 8%, iron 20% STORE IN A COOL DRY PLACE.....
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The mystery item was purchased in a cardboard box.
Hmm. Rather high in calories & fiber to be dried beans. Wrong iron/ calcium ratio to be a spud (though maybe with milk added...) Is this a mixture, or a one-source food?
not a mixture, note that it advertises the iron and calcium, which makes it somewhat different from other items in the same class
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YES! That was obviously a well-thought-out guess. You are too modest.
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No, no, no. I don't buy them in little cardboard boxes, but in 50 pound bags. This was something more exotic.
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no, no, no, keep trying. We also bought 50 lb of quinoa.
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sorry, no. This is 'the smallest grain in the world!'. Tiny X provides GIANT SIZE nutrition! It's high in minerals and has more calcium than wheat or barley... But if nobody can guess it in a week I will tell.
In other words, it hasn't been selectively bred for holding freighters down in the water. (Maximum tons per acre, whether it's worth harvesting or not.)
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Arrowhead Mills proudly introduces Teff...the smallest grain in the world! In fact, 150 grains of Teff weight only as much as a single grain of wheat - but don't let its size fool you -- Tiny Teff.... Ounce for ounce, Teff has more nutrient-rich bran and germ than any other grain. We bought a box of it to grind into flour and made injera, a low-gluten fermented pancake. The local restaurants use pastry wheat flour. You can use any other low-gluten grain, such as corn or barley. Mix it up very liquid, let is sit in a warm place and stir it daily with your hands, removing anything glutinous. The box also gives a veggie-burger recipe. I was not sure anybody out there had actually heard of teff. Never underestimate the knowledge of a grexer! Valerie, your turn, unless some other grexer has an interesting label or food to enter.
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Valerie, have you any good recipes for bread or pancakes from other less common grains? Barley, millet, etc.
What sort of plant does this t'eff stuff come from? (Or would that more properly be t'eff st'uff?)
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Teff is a type of grain, which I presume grows on something like a grass. Valerie, that can't be yogurt again, can it? Something dairy, anyway. Does lactose count as a sugar?
Looks a little high in fat to be yogurt, but it sure seems like a dairy product. Milk, maybe?
Lactose should be a sugar chemically, but I don't know if the FDA counts it... I don't see why not.
Pretty high sodium to be milk. And where's the carbo's? But the fat profile fits whole milk perfectly.
Cheese sticks? That's a lot of fat, and I noticed the calcium... Oh...maybe sticks of butter?
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Orange creamsicles? Oh, wait...no sugar.
Sour cream?
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Cream cheese?
I presume serving size omitted is some sort of clue. 2 servings. Some sort of cheese?
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Whole milk has about half its calories from fat, this was two thirds. Some sort of cream? Light cream/coffee creamer?
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water buffalo milk, which I am told is very creamy? Goat's milk? Sheep's milk? Camel's milk? Yak's milk?
Tofu newtons? (Man, I'm outta ideas.)
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Was something else added to the cow's output, or is this just processedcow food (possibly with something subtracted). In other words, one ingredient or more than one? (Or is it too early to ask this?).
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Must undergo some sort of extraction processing to be so high in sodium and contain no sugar whatsoever, then. Hmmm...
Evaporated milk?
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Are you sure it is not yogurt? Kefir? Buttermilk would have less fat.
The lack of carbohydrates should mean something. Apparently whole milk has carbohydrates. 11.4 g carbos and 8 g fat. This has 0 carb and 8 g fat. Someone took out the carbohydrates but left the protein. Cheeses are about balanced on fat and protein and have little or no carbohydrates (none in gorgonzola or liederkranz, wonder where they went). Unripened cheese? Yogurt cheese? (The yogurt is put in a cheesecloth bag and the water-soluble sugars (lactose) drip out). This sounds like something Valerie has already tried making, not too different from wheat gluten in concept. Is this yogurt cheese by some other name? First acidify the milk with the yogurt bacteria, which causes the proteins to clump together. I have tried cheesemaking with a vegetable rennet, very low yield. Same cholesterol as whole milk, same fat and protein. Nothing missing but the lactose, what could it be?
Butter?
I don't think there is much if any protein in butter, unless you have discovered a new and more nutritious variety that we should all know of.
Interesting. Valeries clues certainly suggest buttermilk, but my nutritional reference shows vastly more carbo's in buttermilk than she shows in #32.
The mystery item also has the same amount of salt as cheese, and I have not had salty buttermilk.
My sources agree that buttermilk is much saltier than fresh milk, but do not disclose how it's made. s/Valeries/Valerie's in #59.
I thought buttermilk was made by fermenting the liquid remaining after making cheese. Is salt added to controll the fermenation? Lactic acid bacteria thrive in salt environments because they tolerate salt. (That is one reason why people should be eating some salt, to maintain a healthy stomach flora. The lactic acid bacteria produce their own antibiotics against some less harmless bacteria of the type that cause diarrhea, and are why yogurt helps).
Yes, buttermilk seems to have the right amount of sodium, but it also has the same amount of carbohydrates as milk.
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Buttermilk used to be what was left after making butter. Butter used to be made by culturing milk and then removing the fat, so it had a lot more of a sour-cream type of taste and was more self-preserving. It was cultured with salt, I think, to favor the lactic-acid bacteria. I had some like that once bought in northern Michigan. I guess you can call anything that you want buttermilk now, but they should have listed salt, too, as an ingredient. In Vermont, an older friend tells me, they used to make butter from the milk and then pour the buttermilk in the river, but nowadays it seems like the market has reversed. Since I have had a few turns, would Walter or anyone else like to go?
Could you double check to see if that carbo's # was real, valerie? Unless someone else wants it, i move that we shanghai the Snord. He's very good at picking things to enter, but is seldom `it'.
Guernsey buttermilk is wonderful stuff.
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<i scratches his head and doesn't even notice more hair falling out>
Well, I would not have believed wheat gluten had vitamin C in it. Things are not what they used to be, even buttermilk. (Then again, the label could have an error, I think my seaweed was listed as no calcium.) Does anyone else have a buttermilk label around?
I don't see any Snords around. Omni, or anyone else reading this, would you like to enter a nutrition label for us to guess? It has been a week now.
Give me a day and I'll post one.
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<blush> Oops. that was what I forgot. I'll post one soon, I promise.
<of course there's nobody here. It's all part of the conspiracy. I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. And that wouldn't be good at all.>
I know Omni has some food labels in the kitchen, I have seen them there, but he is probably too excited about his new 486 to think of food.
I do, but I moved the computer, upstairs, and it's away from the kitchen, hence the delay. Anyway, I think I have found the perfect label.
Ok here is the long awaited label
Serving size 8 oz
serv per container about 6
Calories- 100
Total Fat- 0
Sodium- 20
Total Carbs- 30g
sugars- 27g
Protein- 0
Vitamin A- 100%
Vitamin C- 100%
Good luck.
Crystal Light? Oh wait...too much sugar... Slim Fast?
Nope.
Vitamin enriched Koolaid?
Carnation Instant Breakfast?
Nope, and Nope. I can safely say that no one, absolutly nobody can drink just 1 serving, In my case, it's a little more than that.
fruit juice? (With vitamins added?)
I don't know how to say this, but I will try. It is more than fruit juice with vitamins. I would prefer identification of the brand, if you can do that. Can you be a little more specific, Sindi?
Nope, I don't buy fruit juice, just fruit, so will let others guess at what else has been added. But I heard they are now adding Vit C to apple juice.
It's not apple juice.
V8?
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I was not guessing apple juice, they don't add vitamin A to it.
And we have a winner. Birdlady got it. It's actually V8 Splash, which I drink entirely too much of, but since it is lowfat, and actually good for you, who cares. V8 Splash combines carrot juice with mango, pineapple, lime and kiwi juice. It is addictive. There are 2 other varieties; Berry Blend and Strawberry Kiwi. I'd rather have that than pop.
I had never heard of it, the original V8 was just vegetables.Sounds yummy! If we ever have a potluck, bring some (bring lots!).
Yuck. =) <birdy *hates* V8> Wow - I never win! Here goes... Serving Size: 29g Servings Per Container: About 12 Calories - 130 Calories from Fat - 40 Total Fat - 4.5g Cholesterol - 0mg Sodium - 150mg Total Carbohydrate - 22g Dietary Fiber - less than 1g Sugars - 9g Protein - 2g Vitamin A - less than 2% Calcium - less than 2% Vitamin C - less than 2% Iron - 6% (these are percent daily values)
re 92- Not bloody likely.
(At 27g sugar per 8 ounces, that is the same sugar levels as most pop. So it may be low fat, but I wouldn't really call it healthy)
According to my nutrition book, grapefruit juice, one cup, has 24 g
carbohydrate (mostly or all sugar), grape juice 32 g carbohydrate, apricot
nectar 36 g, cranberry apple juice 43 g carbohydrate. Fruits are high in
sugar, that is why people like them, and it used to be considered healthy to
eat enough calories, for most of human history. The sugar calories in this
super V8 also come with a broad assortment of vitamins, and are thus much
better for you than pop. Fruit drinks run about 30, beer 8, whole milk 12
g carbs (sugar). Tomato juice 10 g, which is probably what keeps the sugar
content of the V8 below most fruit juices.
Could the new mystery item be peanut butter? 12 servings/container,
somewhat high in fat....
Nope - not peanut butter - but there's a LOT of that in my pantry. =)
A cookie? A peanut butter cookie? (Had one at lunch).
It is a cookie of some sort, but not peanut butter cookies.
Are they cheaper by the dozen? Jim does not know anything about store-bought cookies, someone else will have to narrow it down to variety and/or brand.
Could they be Oreo's?
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Not Oreo's or Chips Ahoy. These cookies are a little better for you (no chocolate in them).
oatmeal cookies? (I am trying hard to think of a healthy cookie.)
Don't you dare sit there and say chocolate is not good for you. We all know that it is good for the soul.
Healthy in the fact that they are good for anemic people - look at the iron content. I was told to snack on these since I hardly eat red meat and happen to be anemic.
Molasses picks up a lot of iron from being boiled in iron pots. Gingerbread cookies? Isn't there an item on iron deficiency somewhere?
Oh my...keesan...you're sooooo close...I'll give it to you. Gingersnaps! <birdy *luvs* these and will eat a whole box>
Keesan did not win, *I* won. (Keesan is my typist). I have never seen gingersnaps sold in quantities of less than than three pounds. What is the portion size they expect you to eat, with 12 portions to a container? Do you really eat 3 pounds at a time? (Jim runs off to the kitchen in great excitement to see if we have anything with a nutrition label.) Nutrition Facts Serving size 1 tsp (18 g) Servings 35 ['this is ridiculous' - that's a clue] Total fat 0 Sat fat 0 Cholest 0 Sodium 0 Total carb 9 g 13% Fiber 0 Sugars 7 g Protein 0 Vitamin A 0 Vitamin C 0 Calcium 2 Iron 4 Single ingredient (this one needs a few clues), which has been processed and used to have more vitamins, and also has or had estrogen. No, it is not yogurt, peanut butter, jelly, or Altoids. Or chocolate.
Looks like blackstrap molasses to me.
Molasses, but not blackstrap, and not made from sugar cane. This was boiled down from something else, want to guess what?
Sugar beets is the first thing to come to mind.
Not sugar beets. There are a few other sources of sugar, keep trying. WOuld you like another clue? This one has more flavor.
the only other kind of molasses that comes to my mind is treacle, but i can't remember what it's made from.
Sorghum?
treacle is the British word for molasses. Not sorghum. This stuff is actually labelled XXXX molasses, in the meaning of a sweet syrup boiled down from some more dilute juice. You have to guess what the jucie came from (not sugar cane, sugar beet or sorghum). I. e., fill in the XXXX. I does not normally grow in Michigan (maybe greenhouse?).
(The gingersnaps came in a box, and one serving size was 12 cookies - yeah, right!) ;-) Like I ever only eat twelve in one sitting.
(what is the difference between blackstrap molasses and normal molasses?)
Hint: this 'molasses' is boiled down from a syrup from a fruit.
Peaches.
No, as I said, this fruit does not usually grow in Michigan. My neighbors have a peach tree that occasionally bears fruit. Have you ever had peach molasses? Sounds good. It is not rice syrup either, or barley malt.
Think Mediterranean.
Sounds like figs.
You are thinking mediterranean, but we have not run across fig syrup, only fig jam, so far. Keep thinking mediterranean. This fruit is not generally thought of as being very sweet, it is rather acidic.
maybe olives?
Well, acidic suggests lemons or limes - though both were SE Asian natives brought west by (best guess) Arab traders. From an Eurocentric point of view, i guess both would be considered Mediterranean.
May actually have originated a bit further east, Iran or Iraq, but not China. (I mean the mystery fruit, not citrus). I saw it growing in Dalmatia. Not quite as cold sensitive as citrus. Olives are certainly acidic, but I cannot imagine making sweet syrup of them.
(really wild guess) Tamarinds?
No, but we also have tamarind syrup, molasses consistency, and sour. Tamarind is a legume and the pod is sweet, like honey locust. I have not seem them from anywhere west of India, where I think the pulp is used in curries. Not all that wild a guess, after all. Keep guessing.
Tamarinds are very popular in Mexico, and I've even seen them at Meijer here in AA.
How are they used in Mexico?
The mystery fruit is round, and was known to the ancient Greeks.
Grapes fit several of the clues, but they are often thought of as sweet and grow well north of here (if only in selected sheltered areas). Similarly, dates have shape and sweetness problems. This might well be a melon, but i've no idea which of the infinite varieties. Then there's more exotic stuff like pomegranates....
Grapes grown on Jim's trellis and our neighbor has a yard full. One year we bought a lot and made grape juice, which we canned. This year a friend had us out picking and we froze the juice, much better than the cooked stuff. We also have date syrup, but dates don't grow in Greece. They apparently grow in Lebanon or may be imported, and the syrup is eaten on bread together with tahini from sesame seeds - a bit like BP and J. I have had candied watermelon rind, but never melon syrup. The answer is, from the bottle : pomegranate molasses. It is good on ice cream, or in salad dressing, or over chopped apples, anyplace you want sweet and sour. In apple pies. Mixed with water as a tart and refreshing drink. Might try it on toast.
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Forgot, we also had some grape syrup, impossibly sticky and viscous stuff, you could not get it out of the jar, and would have pulled a tooth out. The pomegranate syrup is available from middle eastern stores, such as Big Market or Jerusalem Market or one on Packard (Alladin's).
Heat up the grape syrup to get it out of the jar. Dilute before eating. (And probably don't expect much but a sugary taste...)
We solved the problem by giving it to a friend who likes sugar. It is difficult to heat up a plastic jar. Walter, do you have any interesting labels, or is someone else wishing they could have a turn? The grape syrup was from the Thai and Lao store on Packard. I had thought it was rice syrup, we read the adjacent label, goofed.
Microwaves & double boilers can usually heat stuff in plastic jars okay. I'm delaying a few days in hopes that The Snord will accept my invitation.
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The sink scheme does depend on how hot your water heater's set. The landlord keeps ours somewhere above 150 degrees, and i've learned (the hard way) that JIF peanut butter jars (amoung other things) start melting if i'm not careful washing them.
Don't you mix cold water with your hot water? I would scald myself if I did not. You must have very thick skin on your hands. There is no need to use hot water at all unless you are trying to melt solid fat. We use cold water except in mid-winter, when the water is very cold and hurts my hands. If you melt grease with hot water, it resolidifies in the plumbing, better to just wipe it off if there is a lot, and then use extra detergent. (It there a dishwashing conference?) Has the Snord looked at this item recently? Maybe an e-mail invitation would work better.
I e-mailed The Snord early yesterday; i'll enter something Tuesday if He or someone else doesn't. Washing: i put anything that i reasonably can in the dishwasher (but use some combination of pre-soaking, rinsing, a nylon brush, and occasionally Bon Ami so that the dishwasher never has to deal with "tough" dirt or much food waste. For the rest, i put on rubber gloves, pour detergent and chlorine bleach in the dishpan, fill with hot water, use a trickle of straight hot water to rinse, and air dry. I don't have my grandfathers' "blacksmith hands", and don't keep my hands under the hot water (they would get scalded, gloves or not). Yes, this uses extra energy to heat the water, but i can get by with a pretty slow trickle, and for those- germs-are-DEAD sanitation it can't be beat. My cooking style generates very little grease, and i attack it with a touch of detergent and the nylon brush (which seems to work much better than hot water anyway).
The Snord (that's me, I guess) has been absent from this item for a while. Thanks for the invitation to enter something, but I think I shall pass this time. Have at it, Cramer!
Serving size: 2 oz. / 8 per container 190 calories Fat: 15 cal / 1 g / 2% Saturated Fat: 1 g / 5% Cholest.: 0mg / 0% Sodium: 10mg / <1% Carbo's: 34g / 11% Fiber: 6g / 24% Sugars: 0g Protein: 9g Vitamin A & C: 0% Calcium / Iron: 2% / 15% Thiamine / Riboflavin / Niacin: 20% / 40% / 10%
Opps! Make that 4% for the riboflavin.
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This one sounds pretty nutritious, all those vitamins. Peanuts are high in niacin and have no cholesterol and lots of fiber. Something with lightly salted peanuts? Walter, try measuring the actual temperature at your faucet. If it is under 140, or even if 140 for only a few seconds, you are unlikely to be murdering any germs with it. Even if it is, there is no need to use hot wash and hot rinse, just one would do it (or just soak in very hot water for a few minutes, then wash in something cooler and rinse in cold).
A roast thermometer goes up past 150 degrees under my hot water faucet. My (limited) understanding is that hot water rinse isn't good sanitation primarily because of killing germs on contact. The hot water kills some germs, washes others off (wet heat is bad for many biological adhesives), then leaves most of the rest on a hot, dry surface. High & dry at a high temp. is something that many bugs comfortable inside a warm, moist human body can't cope with. (Though the chlorine bleach in the dishpan is really my main line of defense.) Not sugarless granola bars. Peanuts are WAY higher in fat and lower in carbo's than this stuff.
Looks like about 50% water. Some root vegetable? In a 1 pound can? No salt added. Canned fruit? Applesauce?
Neither canned fruit or veggies. Add it up again - it's way under 50% water.
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Not fortified, not canned (i can't think of anything canned that would have so little water). :)
dried beans?
Nope.
Is it cheating to look in my nutrition book? Especially since nobody else seems to have one?
Only if i've been cheating all along by looking in mine. :)
All stumped? Some people may be peeved with themselves when they find out what this mystery food is.....
Can you tell us if it a mixture or one thing? I am no good at guessing mixtures, I only buy single ingredients.
The nutritional profile is fairly indicative of the mystery food's main ingredient. ;)
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Not peas.
Walter, I have three more translations to do so please don't take it personally if I don't get out my nutrition book for a few days. And we are hoping to have the living room cleaned out by Saturday. I have some interesting new labels that I may either show you then or save for here.
<linked to games; for those of us just joining, the current item to be guessed is in resp. 145.>
And i've given a fair number of clues since then. <i rubs his hands together in anticipation>
What number response was the label in? For those just joining.
#145.
Thanks, I did a print screen and will go cheat with my book, while fetching housebuilding materials for Jim. Let's see, since fat has twice the calories of starch or protein, this is about 5/7 starch, 1/7 each fat (non-animal) and protein, fairly high in iron and B vitamins. I wonder what plant product has no sugars at all. A grain? Whole grain wheat, cooked, is about the correct fiber carb prot fat ratio. My book gives vitamin content in mg, not % of daily allowance. The fiber to carb ratio is about 1 to 5, and in your mystery item it is about the same. Is this a grain or made primarily from a grain? Whole wheat flour?
Whole wheat is the primary ingredient in this food. Some preparation is strongly suggested before consumption, but it is not flour.
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I don't think bulgur contains anything besides the wheat. Could this be a mix for whole wheat bread, including yeast and maybe salt? I recall Walter having wheat gluten with vitamin C added to put in his bread machine bread dough.
My main nutrition book agrees that bulgur is nothing but wheat (some varieties, processed a certain way). This food isn't bulgur, and may or may not contain secondary ingredients.... At 80mg/pound sodium, i feel safe saying that no salt's been added to this food. (Nor baking soda, baking powder, etc.) Neither has yeast. It's not a baking mix. But keesan is, in a way, very close to the mark.
Do you mean by 'may or may not' that you have a nutrition label but no list of ingredients, or that variants of this product have different ingredients? Bread flour?
I've got a complete list of ingredient(s). I'm not committing on how many item(s) are on said list. :) Otherwise, see #169.
Whole wheat noodles with possibly spinach or beets added for color? They sometimes come in mixed bags of different colors, and thus each noodle would have different ingredients.
(Pssst, keesan! Too complicated! Take a peek at Cooking 136:156!)
Are you telling me this is just whole wheat spaghetti? If so, I don't know of any ingredients in it other than the durum wheat flour. What did you mean by other ingredients?
Yes, whole wheat spaghetti. Durum whole wheat flour is the only ingredient in the brand i bought. I just didn't want to give a clue as big as "only one ingredient". You're up.
I have never heard of any spaghetti that had more than one ingredient. We have only one thing left in the kitchen, other than some rather exotic canned and dried fruits, which has a nutrition label. Serving size 2 tbsp (32 g) Calories 210 Fat cal 170 total fat 19 g 29% sat fat 3 g 14% cholest 0 sodium 5 mg 0 carb 5 g 2% fiber 3 g 12% sugars 0 protein 6 g vitamins A and C 0% Calcium A 0% (sic, this is wrong, there is some calcium) Iron 4% servings per container 112 (a large container, not typical)
(Keesan's never heard of spinach spaghetti, lasagne, etc.?????) #179 looks like a nut butter.
No I had not heard of spinach spaghetti, only plain spaghetti. I had heard of spinach noodles (macaroni type). We make our own noodles from durum flour and don't add coloring, the vegetables get cooked separately. Not a nut butter.
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No, but closer. The 'calcium A' might be some sort of clue as to the origin of the container.
By that clue, I meant that whoever printed the container did not know much
English, this product is imported. If nobody can guess any closer in a few
days, I will tell you the region of origin.
This product can be mixed with another 'what am I" and used to dunk
pieces of bread into.
It's gotta be cheese! :-)
Cheese has quite a bit of sodium (salt) and protein (casein), but I admit that it also has a lot of fats in it. The nut butter and sunflower seed guesses were a bit closer. It has no cholesterol, and cheese has a lot of cholesterol, because all animal products have it. As a hint, this product is from the same part of the world as our previous entry (pomegranate syrup).
Keesan mentioned using tahini (sesame seed paste) in item #43 and this looks pretty close (clues match, too), so i'll guess that.
Pickled eyelashes? Bees Knees? ;) I just had to add that.
Not eyelashes (they probably have cholesterol, as do bees' knees). Yes, this is tahini, we bought a large container to add calories and flavor. I have used it on boiled potatoes, on salad, etc. Well, unless I can look things up in my nutrition book, we are out of labels. Time to go to the CHinese food store and get something interesting. Who wants to go next?
They seem real bashful when we put it that way. Maybe we should just tell someone "you're drafted".
The person who guessed it doesn't want to go?
You're drafted, remmers! :)
I second the motion! It is much more fun to guess than to enter labels.
Looks like our draftee is overdue for his physical. Perhaps the draft board should refer his file to the dodger patrol.
It has been a week, we need a volunteer, quick before I enter a very strange label from China which nobody will be able to guess. (Total fat 62 mg, calories from fat 0 - the new miracle food?)
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Hm, I guess I was drafted at some point. Sorry, draft notices aren't binding unless sent by registered mail (the old-fashioned kind, not email). Well, *maybe* I'll enter something this morning, maybe not. If keesan beats me to it, so be it. I shan't complain. (I'm the only person in the known universe who still says "shan't".)
Not true!! I do, too. Also, re: 62 mg fat, 0 fat calories, fat has 9 calories to the gram, so 62mg would be better expressed as 0.062g, which would give slightly over 1/2 calorie.
Rounded to the nearest calore that is 1 calorie. Remmers, I can wait. Shan't is British English, are you British in background?
Nope, not at all. Born and raised in Indiana. Okay, hm... I'll have to go peruse the pantry contents.
(is there a difference in meaning between "shan't" and "won't", or are tehy interchangeable?)
Shall is British, will American. In primary school in Boston they tried to teach us I shall, you will, he will (or was it you shall?). Shan't and won't are the negatives for these.
(Hopefully His Snordship will soon emerge from the pantry. There might be plenty of volunteers for the rescue team, but i wouldn't count on any of them coming back real soon...)
Okay, okay, okay. One Mysterious Nutrition Facts Label coming
right up...
Serving size: 4 Tbsp.
Calories 80
Cal's from fat 0
Sodium 115mg (4%)
Total carb. 18g (6%)
Dietary fiber <1g (3%)
Sugars 15g
Protein 1g
Vitamin A 45%
Vitamin C 45%
Calcium 8%
Iron 15%
Vitamin D 50%
Vitamin B-1 60%
Vitamin B-2 45%
Niacin 45%
Vitamin B-6 45%
Phosphorus 8%
Vitamin enriched something, I would bet. Those numbers look awfully close to each other. Sugar-coated cornflakes with vitamins?
Yep, it's a vitamin enriched substance that is often consumed for breakfast. Not cereal though.
Since I have no idea what sorts of sugary substances Americans are currently consuming for breakfast, I will let others guess the details.
Coffee cake?
It appears to be some sort of powdered / syrup breakfast drink mix. Dunno what.
Wonder if it contains chocolate.
Not coffee cake. #209 and #210 are on the right track.
Chocolate Slim Fast?
Chocolate Carnation Instant Breakfast? (If I'm right, I pass to birdlady)
Actually, if you're right, you can take it. I've posted enough in here already. =)
Okay...that should have read, "If *I'm* right, you can take it". =)
Not Chocolate Slim Fast, not Chocolate Carnation Instant Breakfast. (But the mystery substance *is* chocolate flavored, and also comes in a non-chocolate version.)
Nestle Quik? (The lowfat version if there is one)
Not Nestle Quik.
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Not Chocolate Pop Tarts.
Chocolate Ovaltine (sp?)?
The i's have it! (chocolate-flavored Ovaltine it is.)
i, is there any item made of chocolate with which you are not familiar?
Re: #223 - There probably is, but i can't think of any right now. This should be easy for anyone who bakes: 8 oz./serving, 8 servings/container 110 calories, 20 from fat 2.5g (4%) / 1.5g (8%) / 10mg (4%) fat / sat. fat / cholest. 400mg (17%) sodium 13g (4%) carbo's 0g (0%) / 9g / 8g fiber / sugar / protein 2% / 4% / 30% / 0% Vit. A / Vit. C / Calcium / Iron
Hm, no fiber, no vitamins, not a baked apple. Has some milk product in it for the calcium, salt added. Custard?
Not custard, but it is a dairy product.
Duh, butter?
<laugh> Cute, Scott. =) I want to know where you can find butter that low in fat, though, unless it's a low-fat variety like ICBINB.
2.5g of fat in an 8 oz. serving would be a *mighty* poor brand of butter. The fat in this food is of dairy origin, though, and butter is, in another sense, not too far off the mark. <-- big, fat hint
Not buttermilk again?
Oh, no, never! This is lowfat buttermilk. How do we get more people to play this game?
Could we appoint someone chosen at random from another item? Calling for volunteers!!!!!!
Three ingredients to this one, one oddly spelled, one unbelievable, which you can guess after guessing the main ingredient: serving size 1 pack (200 g) protein 3 g fat 62 mg No calories from fat, no cholesterol sugars 79 g carbohydrate 117 g saturated fat 27 mg fiber 8 g calories 450 VA 0mg Vc 2 mg Na 112 mg Ca 28 mg Fe 1 mg net weight 200g I expect that the figure for VA is way too low, so perhaps the other numbers are also not too trustable.
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I seem to remember having seen nutrition info on gum - or at least info on the number of calories and such.
VA - vitamin A (but the 0 figure is definitely wrong)
Vc - vitamin C
62 mg fat = .062 g fat. 200 g total weight. As someone pointed out a while
back when I brought up 62 mg fat - 0 fat calories.
In this household, if you open a package of anything it becomes a serving (i.
e., it is gone within a few hours if not sooner).
Think no cholesterol (not animal), some vitamins, some fiber, little fat or
protein, one major ingredient, and two (or it could be three) additives which
contribute mainly only calories.
Think - whoever typed this up was not a native speaker of English.
It is not something that you would find, in this form, in a supermarket, but
the ingredients in it are common (except possibly for one that is probably
an odd misspelling).
Kroger is where i get my lowfat buttermilk. I bought a half gallon, and will have to get busy baking chocolate cakes to use it up. Summer-resistant frosting may be an interesting experiment - any ideas?
Butterfat used to be lowfat by definition - it was what was left after you
removed the fat from milk to make butter. Frosting is based on fat, how can
you make it from lowfat milk?
On 'what am i' - this is a fruit or vegetable with a minor amount of
additive, fiber and vitamins come with the primary ingredient. It is rather
a common food but prepared in a way not common here.
It is normally somewhat sweet, and originated in South American (I think) but is now widely grown in warm climates around the world.
Clues to date suggest sweet spuds or squash, mostly dried out, then super-charged with sugar.
Ingredients: High Quality Sweet postato, w- hite Granulated Suger, Malt Dust honeypee. No, those are not typos on my part. Walter, who else can we find to play this game?.
Dunno. Should we give away large cash prizes (and forbid ourselves from winning), or conduct focus group marketing research? Anyone reading this who used to play "What Am I?" more often? Why don't you play so much any more? Please do tell!
John Morris says he is preparing to enter a nutrition label, but has not been able to guess any of the previous entries. Shall we wait for him? honeypee - bee honey? I think maybe people have eaten too much yogurt and can't think of anything else to enter any more.
I used to play, but it sort of got to be too much work. :/
Would you like to be 'it' instead?
That is what was too much work.
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Want to post something?
It looks like a well-made chocolate bribe would get valerie to post. But we need a "critical mass" of people to start and keep playing. Hmmm.....
(I'd play, but the entry's are always too hard to think about)
I try to play, but everything is always so obscure, I have no idea (plus I was out of town all summer).
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But I only just started during the "most recent entries", so all I've seen are obscure items.
Serving size: 1 oz., 16 per container 110 calories, 80 from fat Fat/Sat. fat/Cholesterol: 9g, 14% / 5g, 27% / 30mg, 9% 170mg / 7% sodium Carbohydates/Fiber/Sugar: <1g, 0% / 0g, 0% / 0g, 0% Protein 7g Vit. A/Vit. C/Calcium/Iron: 6% / 0% / 20% / 0% Gurus will kindly abstain from giving this away.......
Hm... Decent amount of protein, kinda high on fat, insignificant carbohydrate, good source of calcium. Sounds like some kind of dairy product, probably solid. Comes in a one pound container. Some kind of cheese, perhaps?
Sliced American cheese for sandwiches!
Kroger's Sharp Pinconning Cheese. John "Guru who, me?" Remmers is up. :)
Okay, here goes. Good luck!
Serving size: 1 XXXXXX (censored, to not give away too much)
Servings per container: 14
Amount Per Serving:
Calories 190
Calories from Fat 60
Total Fat 7gm 11%
Saturated Fat 1.5gm 7%
Cholesterol 0gm 0%
Sodium 135mg 6%
Potassium 160mg 5%
Total Carbohydrate 19gm 6%
Dietary Fiber 2gm 7%
Sugars 17gm
Protein 14gm
Vitamin A 50%
Vitamin C 200%
Calcium 45%
Iron 10%
Vitamin D 35%
Vitamin E 210%
Thiamin 50%
Riboflavin 50%
Niacin 100%
Vitamin B6 200%
Folate 40%
Vitamin B12 45%
Biotin 30%
Pantothenic Acid 35%
Phosphorus 30%
Magnesium 10%
Zinc 50%
Selenium 80%
Chromium 80%
Molybdenum 65%
Fortified breakfast cereal (milk included)? (Wild guess, there...)
sounds like some powdered nutrition mix.. but not diet, eh? .'
Not cereal, not powdered nutrition mix.
Weight Gainer? Y'know, that stuff they sell in GMC's and other sotres of that sort.
Not Weight Gainer.
No cholesterol, so it's a plant product.
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Not Rice Krispy Treats, or any other form of cereal. But the food *is* solid in form, not liquid or powder.
Do those vitamins occur in the regular ingredients, or are they added to make it look good? :-) (vitamins AND minerals, that is)
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Sorry, not Pop Tarts. This thing is ready to eat and not anything that one has to prepare by heating, toasting, etc. This is a somewhat obscure puzzler, I think, so I'll count as correct the first person to come up with the right general category and won't expect to see a brand name.
Some sort of Yuppie Chow Good-4-U Meal Bar?
is #267 being ignored, or overlooked?
I wasn't sure how to respond to #267, so I put off doing so, and then forgot about it. I'm not sure how one defines "regular ingredients" in the context of this product, which is a mixture of a bunch of things intended to achieve a nutritional ideal. I guess #270 is close enough. Specifically, it's a Zone Bar. They're marketed by Barry Sears' EisoTech company. Sears is the author of the popular "Zone diet" books, and the bars contain the 40/30/30 calorie percentage of carbohydrate, protein, and fat that Sears claims is best for most people. The i's have it.
Serving size: 1/4 cup 90 calories Fat: 45 calories / 5g, 8% / saturated 1g, 6% / cholesterol 40mg, 13% Sodium: 270mg, 11% Carbohydrates: all 0's Protein: 12g Vitamin A: 0% C: 0% Calcium: 10% Iron: 2% Gurus will *please* try to restrain themselves this time! :)
<remmers looks around, trying to spot gurus>
<i hands remmers a mirror>
Re #272: I think that the correct answer would have been that they were in the ingredients. Either that, or "no." :-) Re #273: Well, we have cholesterol, so it's from an animal, we have fat, protein, and calcium, but no starch or sugar (or fiber). Except for the lack of sugars, I'd be inclined to guess milk. In fact, I'll go out on a limb, and guess, MILK!
Lactose in milk is a carbohydrate and a sugar.
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1/4 cup equals 2 oz, not a bad serving size for cheese.
<chortle> It's not milk.
Well, I said that I didn't think so, but I figured that I didn't lose anything by guessing. Is it human-food?
The ratio of protein to fat, and the total absence of carbohydrate, suggests some kind of meat, or maybe egg, product, one that's not excessively high in fat. But Valerie's right, meat isn't usually measured in cups or fractions thereof. So I dunno...
Yes, this food is commonly sold for human consumption. :)
Is is egg white?
egg replacer?
This is neither egg white nor egg replacer.
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Total Fat 5g 8% Saturated Fat 1g 6% Cholesterol 40mg 13% - is how it's laid out on the actual label. (Anyone else find my squeeze-it-in style too cryptic?) Nope, not cocoa mix. 1 T of plain cocoa contains 3g carbohydrates - 2 of 'em fiber. None o' neither in this stuff. Keep guessing! <chortle>
It seems hard to believe that i've actually stumped a bunch of red-blooded American cooks with this traditional, mainstream food......
(All the gurus here know what it is, but you've forbidden them from responding. ;-) Actually, I'm stumped at this point...
Verbose hint: It appears that the collective council of greater gurus have, in their assembled wisdom, made many assumptions and ruled out many things without resorting to the chela's crutch of asking whether their seeming enlighten- ment is the real McCoy......true, enlightened, and forbearing Buddhas excepted, of course....
We don't eat traditional mainstream food, or animal products. Hamburger?
Is it canned mea of some kind?
er, meat, that is.
Looks like lilmo's found the right track. Not hamburger, through.
Vienna Sausage? Potted Meat?
Not Vienna Sausage (loved it as a kid, now i think it's gross). What's Potted Meat?
It has to be SPAM! SPAM, SPAM, GLORIOUS SPAM!!!
Potted Meat is evil. It is made from pig parts that are uh well, better left unmentioned.
Okay, this is definitely NOT potted meat. It also is not SPAM (or any of the varieties or knock-offs of SPAM) - way too little fat & sodium!
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OK, I hate finding and typing in my own label, but I still want to guess. Cheese dip?
Maybe people need to re-read responses #293 & following... I second valerie's rejection of Campbell's soup on the ground of insufficient sodium. Nothing wrong with handing off the trophy if you win, scott. But it's not cheese anything. s/nd o/nds o/ <chortle> (Unlike the previously-known "it's a can", there was a far more subtle clue burried in the my plug for this cf. in agora....)
Can you tell us the number of servings per container?
(Re resp:304 - This item is in two conferences. Which one were you plugging?) It's not something like canned tuna is it?
Seven servings per container. Cooking cf., which i regard as this item's "home" conference. Yes, but not exactly. So what is this and what's the clue in agora???
(Historical note: Cooking is certainly an appropriate home for this item now, but the very first edition of it started out in Enigma, posted by yours truly.)
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No carbo's, so it can't be ravioli. Like Newton, lilmo's canned meat idea was a big advance *at the time*. Yes, canned fish (i'd thought that #306/307 sort of settled that). (Meat is defined both in ways that include and exclude fish, hence my ambiguous "on the right track" response.) I've never seen sardines or anchovies in a can big enough to hold 7 1/4 cup servings; the sodium content seems awefully low for them too. You seem to have a great talent for getting very close, then making a fast break for parts distant..... This food has been mentioned a few times in this cf. (very few, if you're thinking enigma), but i don't believe that it's ever been a mystery food.
Canned salmon?
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His Snordship has it. Yep, 6 characters long was a clue in that response (hoping to lure some crossword puzzlers). Shrimp, etc. fit too, but i figured the size of the can would rule most of 'em out. Valerie: yep, i said "stumped a bunch of red-blooded American cooks with this traditional, mainstream food". If you read a few pages on the history of salmon fishing, you'd be able to spot a huge haul of clues in that short phrase. References to gurus, etc. sound Indian...and both Atlantic & Pacific salmon were staples of the American Indian diet (the early colonists, too). I spewed loads of clues if you look, but they were pretty much all small & subtle ones.
Grabbed at random from the pantry:
Serving size 1/4 cup
Calories 110, Calories from fat 15
Total fat 1.5g, Saturated fat 0g
Cholesterol 0g
Sodium 430mg
Total carbohydrate 20g, Dietary fiber 1g, Sugars 1g
Protein 4g
Vitamin A 0%
Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 4%
Iron 8%
Lots of sodium for something so low in fat & sugar.... probably not junk food, but i'd bet the container doesn't trumpet the sodium content.
No junk food in *our* house. Anyways, not much. :)
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<i grabs the French bread & gets out some garlic butter....> Want your garlic bread vegan, valerie?
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Just a reminder that resp:316 contains my poser. Telnetters and direct dialers can review it by typing only 316 at the next prompt.
No vitamins, lots of carbs, but calcium and iron. A type of bean? Not an animal product, (no cholesterol), but not much sugar, either. I'm definitely leaning twoards a canned bean, of some sort.
Not bean, and not something that comes in a can.
Bisquick, or some similar leavening-already-added flour mixture?
No, but you're mildly lukewarm.
Is it mostly minimally-processed grain products?
I wouldn't call it minimally-processed.
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Instant potatoes?
Not instant potatoes. This food is not usually eaten stand-alone, but rather mixed with other things.
Seasoned (quick?) rice?
Not rice.
Salad croutons?
Not croutons, but you're warmer...
breadcrumbs?
Ooh, that's a good one.
How's about stuffing mix?
Keesan has it in #336 - it's breadcrumbs. The nutrition facts were from a box of Progresso seasoned breadcrumbs.
We have nothing else in the house with a nutrition label besides oil and vinegar, so I will resort to my nutrition textbook's appendix. This is something I am eating at the moment, but did not come commercially packaged in my case. 1 oz, 28 g, 7% water, 154 kcal protein 7 g carb 5.1 g fiber 1.54 g fat 13 g sat fat 2.46 g mono 4.05 g poly 9 g chol 0 (we are vegans) calc 12 mg iron 4.25 mg magn 152 mg phos 333 mg pota 229 mg sodi 5 mg zinc 2.12 mg VT-A (vitamin A) 11 RE thia .06 mg ribo .09 mg niac .50 mg B6 .06 mg fola 26 mg Vit C trace This is a seasonal food. Should be easy to guess.
This should be very easy to guess, especially if you have been reading other items. What has no cholesterol, lots of fat and fiber, and is eaten one ounce at a time? And is seasonal?
Whatever it is has 7 gm of protein too. There aren't too many vegetable foods with a nutrition profile like that. Too much fat for tofu, though... <remmers ponders>
Tofu has a lot more water.
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No. But they do fit all my clues and we have a lot of them. Chestnuts are, I think, mostly carbohydrate rather than fat.
Someone please name all the seasonal foods for this month.
Pumpkin, cranberries, turkey, "yams", perhaps various sorts of nuts, >next, please<
The answer is in one of those things you listed.
Pumpkin seeds, cranberry seeds, turkey innards, or am i taking your "in" too literally?
Nope, you got it (the first guess). This delicacy was being discussed in detail in another item at the time I chose it. Turkey innards have cholesterol. Seeds don't. I told you this one was easy.
Trust keesan to be eating unsalted pumpkin seeds! 5 demerits for i for not checking on the cholesterol in #340. Anyone else want to enter a mystery food?
Vegans don't eat a lot of cholesterol. We cook our own seeds, no salt needed. I really tried hard to make this one easy.
Since cholesterol is found only in animal products, I'd think that vegans eat zero cholesterol.
Last i knew, keesan (and Jim) would occasionally eat ovo-lacto stuff (cholesterol, not that turkey innards qualify). I've talked to a number of vegans who are (or claim to be) far more interested in the "no exploiting or abusing animals" aspect than in non-consumption of animal products. Some of them come across as willing to try steak & eggs at a farmer's dinner table if they knew & approved of the way that Buttercup & the hens were treated...... #include <drift.h> #include <drift.c> Anyone interested in entering a new mystery food?
Jim is trying not to abuse the planet.
I'll enter something by midnight tommorow. Get your thinking caps out, I promise you that it will not be easy.
OK get out your thinking caps.
Serving size 8oz
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Servings per container-2
Calories 140 From Fat 0
Total Fat 0
Sodium 35
Total Carb 38g
Sugars 38g
Protein 0g
Vitamin C 100%
Good luck kiddies.
Frozen orange juice?
Sugar with Vit C added and maybe some flavoring. Koolaid? Or some other premixed sugar-water drink.
remmers is in the neighborhood. No, it is NOT kool-aid.
Orange juice or any other real juice does not have 100% of any vitamin, this looks like they added some exact amount. Or else the 100% figure is wrong. I have seen apple juice with Vit C added.
Well this could go on for years, but essentially remmers got it. It's cranberry uice. take it rembo.
Oh no! (Actually, I've given my share recently, I think. If somebody wants to jump in with a new puzzler, please feel free. If nobody does, and I haven't completely forgotten about it, maybe I'll post something in a few days...)
Serving size: 2 Tbsp, about 5 per container Calories: 30 Total Fat: 0g 0% Sodium: 20mg 1% Total Carb.: 6g 2% Fiber: 1g 6% Sugars: 3g Protein: 2g Vitamin A: 10% Vitamin C: 10% Calcium: 0% Iron: 0%
(Hm, almost 2 months between my resp:363 and i's poser in resp:364 so I guess I completely forgot about it...) That's a pretty tiny serving size - 2 Tbsp. Suggests some kind of sauce or topping. Or maybe powdered drink mix. (I'm not guessing at this stage, just thinking out loud.)
<i figured it was about time for a resurrection attempt & a label was handy>
Chocolate tends to have fat in it, what else is half sugar? Some sort of drink mix with powdered milk in it? And vitamins added?
??? If it was getting the protein from powdered milk, they're be lots more calcium in it. Not sure if you think 3g of sugar in 2T is "half sugar", or you're just noting that half the total carbo's are sugar.
I will take a closer look at the nutrition facts. (If it is nutrition information, the can is out of date, I just learned).
About 20-25% protein, and a lot of sugar, in a small container. No fat. Jim is thinking, hmmmm. No ideas yet. We can only guess the single ingredient stuff easily.
Could you let us know the number of ingredients? Or some other hint?
His Snordship is on the right track. This food's nutritional profile is mostly due to it's main ingredient.
Hello, out there!!! Anybody home??? :) There's only one ingredient in this mystery food.
Peanuts? (Wild guess, but we just bought 25 pounds of them raw). Is your ingredient whole or refined?
No fat & little protein, so peanuts don't have much of a chance. The ingredient is (as i would use the words) neither raw nor refined.
Carbohydrates (sugar) and protein, high in vitamins A and C, 10 tbps per container? Some fiber. Fruit or vegetable? Not a seed if it has no fat, but high in protein. Not refined so no fat removed. Dried potato?
Yes, a fruit or veggie; no, not dried spuds.
Beans? What else has that much protein? Soybeans have fat.
Not beans. This food is not usually considered high in protein.
Half the carbohydrates are sugar, some sort of fruit? What sort of unrefined fruit comes in tablespoons? No sugar added jam? Apricot jam? High in vitamins A and C.
Not apricot nor jam. Note how i talked around the "refined" issue in #375. I'd call it a fruit.
Dried fruit? Dried tomatoes? Is sugar-added not considered refined?
Not dried anything. I wouldn't call sugar-added "refined"....but no sugar has been added to this food.
Fruit?
I'd call it a fruit.
Tomato? Pepper? Eggplant? (Solanaceae)
Tomato paste.
Dried fruit, like I said. We like ajvar, which is Macedonian or Bulgarian and is a combination of cooked peppers, eggplant and tomato with spices, sort of boiled down to thick. Available at big market in spicy or less spicy. If anyone else is reading this item please come up with a mystery food (and if you want me to guess at it I do better at single ingredient stuff). Or I will enter something interesting from an ethnic food store again. We just ran out of peanut oil and went shopping. What does one do with only 2 tbps tomato paste?
I don't think of tomato paste as a dried fruit because it's not dry. I'd guess they figure 2T is the amount each person gets from the little can of tomato paste after you mix it into a pot of spaghetti sauce and serve it to your family.
Jim's contribution, nutritional values are from a nutrition book: 1 cup, 175 g, 586 kcal, 20.5 g protein, 128 g carb, 15.6 g fiber, 4.2 g fat of which .81 sat 1.4 mono 1.51 poly-unsaturated, no chol calc 200, iron 6.7 Magn 315 Phos 494 Pota 784 Sodi 4 Zinc 4.4 (mg) VT-A 0 Thia 1.05 Ribo .26 Niac 7.7 V-B6 .37 Fola 52 Vt-C o (mg) (Vt-A is in RE) We have some of this product but packaged without nutrition label. The amount I would use for two of us is about one cup ( 2 servings). Oh, H2O (%) 11. For comparison chocolate milk is 82% water, meat about 50%, yellow cake with chocolate frosting (2 layer cake) 23%, and chocolate chip cookies home recipe only 3% and macademia nuts 2%. Lettuce 96% water.
some kind of bulk dry breakfast cereal?
We are trying to remember just what Jim's entry was. You are close as far as 'cereal' and 'bulk' but it needs further cooking to be eaten for breakfast, and is generally mixed with a few other ingredients. Not just dumped into a bowl and milk added, or simply boiled.
is it oatmeal?
No, we make oatmeal by simply boiling it. This is not oatmeal, but it is used similarly to a cereal=grain though technically not a grain (graminae - grass).
Can I guess again, or do I need to let someone else have a try; I think I know what it is...
Of course you can guess again, this was a dead item without your input! Sorry I have been too busy with computer viruses to get back to here sooner.
CORNmeal !!! It's not a grain, but it's treated that way, often. You might use it to make mush, cornbread, etc. :-)
Corn is definitely a member of the graminae and thus a grain, albeit processed into meal. Wheat flour is also made from a grain, etc. This is something else made into flour that is not a true grain. It can also be eaten not made into flour.
Phooee.
Think 'pancake'. (Not phooee, not wheat, rye, corn, barley, millet, sorghum, teff, rice, although these all make nice pancakes too).
Potato flour?
Nope, and not sweet potato or cassava flour. BIG HINT: the name sounds like a grain even though this is not a grain. (Not acorn flour, not breadfruit flour)
How about buckwheat?
Buckwheat it is! One of the very few things Jim will not eat because it leaves a metallic taste in his mouse. He also does not eat raw radishes.
give me a few days to find something.
Don't tell me your cupboard is bare!
Oh no, far from that but you know one has to be creative with this lot. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that I'm going to post something that's really mainstream, since I don't exactly subscribe to the philosophy of veganism. I have to be super sneaky, and that, will take a few days. <evil laugh>
Campbell's chicken soup?
Why are you entering a guess? I didn't post a label. But here is mine. Serving size 3 pieces Servings per container about 9. Total Fat 9 grams Saturated Fat 6 grams Cholesterol 5 mg Sodium 55 mg Total Carbs 22g Dietary Fiber less than 1g Sugars 4g Protein 1g
Something not vegan, like you said. 5mg cholesterol. Probably not chicken soup unless it is restaurant sized (nine servings) and comes in pieces. Hmmm
High in carbs, but not fiber or sugar, so is very starchy
Funny, I really didn't notice the starch...
Almost half fat, actually. Cheese crackers? Cheese something?
not cheese. I would never admit to eating cheese. It's terribly fatty, smells awful and costs a lot of money. ;)
I seem to have rendered all the great food detectives inert. A clue: Life without this food would be very boring, and I wouldn't even dream of seeing a world without it. Some people smoked it, which was truly bizarre.
We must lead very boring lives, as vegans do not eat cholesterol. I cannot imagine smoking milk, eggs, or meat (at least in a pipe - I have eaten smoked cheese and smoked salmon).
no milk, nor eggs, or salmon. It's not cheese either. Keep a guessing.
Methiks we need another clue. <omni sees the clue bus in the distance> When I said "Smoked" I didn't mean the kind of smoking that bacon gets, and no, it's not bacon so don't ask. <the clue bus leaves in a cloud of blue exhuast>
banana skins? (with cholesterol added) I am afraid I am not good at guessing animal products, sorry. Would someone more creative please make a stab at this one?
You have to ask yourself "Would Jim go around eating banana skins?" I think not. I like what is inside the skins, and I usually throw my old, used skins away, or compost them for fertilizer. You also have to ask "Are banana skins so good that life without them be worth living?" If banana skins disappeared tomorrow, I wouldn't notice, nor would I care. If the mystery food did that I'd probably call Dr. K.
Yet another clue since it is apparent I'm being a little obscure. The name of this food is sprinkled liberally throughout this conference and even this item. One of the users uses this as his name. I should add that when I am out of this particular item, I tend to get bitchy.
Dog food? Not cheese. Someone else please make a guess at this.
cloves
I won't even answer 422. I have done a lot of weird things in my life, including eating Milk-Bones, But I don't snack on dog food. Never have never will. It is not cloves. Sigh.
I was looking for a play on the word 'bitchy'. I give up.
Try the middle clue in #421.....
You might say that the mystery food is just what the doctor ordered. And if that isn't enough of a clue, then I really don't know what to tell ya.
High-cholesterol salt?
No. I give up. I have no more clues to give away, so I'll just tell you. It's Chocolate. The Ancient indians in Mexico smoked it. I believ it was the Mayas, or the Incas. The label is from Nestle Treasures with Caramel. I would definitly feel bitchy if all chocolate disappeared from the planet. I was very suprised that i didn't get it, since he uses it in his name. I'll pass it to i.
milk chocolate, I presume, not chocolate beans or cocoa powder. I have never thought of this as a necessity of life, or as something I sprinkle.
Yup. And sometimes it's need. Sometimes I just need a big hit of chocolate to set everything right again.
Serving Size: 1/2 Cup (130g) Servings per Container: 6 Calories: 150 (10 from fat) Total Fat: 1g / 2%, saturated fat: 0g / 0%, no cholesterol Sodium: 550mg / 23% Total Carb.: 29g / 10%, dietary fiber: 7g / 28%, sugar: 5g Protein: 7g Vitamin A: 0%, Vitamin C: 0%, Calcium: 6%, Iron: 10%
no cholesterol, so it's not a meat product. REALLY high in sodium, so I almost have to guess that it's canned. pretty good protein and iron, so I'll say it's some kind of beans.
Low-fat refried beans?
Some kind of beans, not low-fat refried.
Woo-hoo! Are they canned?
Yes.
Kidney beans?
baked beans?
Bush's baked beans, lilmo's up.
Ack, I'm not at home!! OK, I do have ONE food item with me, here goes:
Serving size 8 fl oz (240 ml)
Servings per container 3
Calories 70
Total Fat 0 0%
Sodium 55mg 2%
Potassium 30mg 1%
Total Carb 19g 6%
Sugars 15g
Protein 0g
Not a significant source of ... (various items)
I'm going to try to be here regularly, but if I'm gone too long, feel free
to pick someone to take over.
Sugar water with a bit of starch added.
orange juice
I think you need to be a bit more specific, keesan. :-) However, I think you are on the right track. happyboy: no fiber, no vitamins... hmm... not the OJ I know... :-)
I am not familiar with the brands of sugar water, sorry. Maybe someone else would like to guess the details?
One of the sugared, etc. brands of tea-in-a-bottle?
I just discovered that canned soda (Squirt) has starch in it, so is this canned soda?
It looks like lilmo hasn't been around for a while.....#STATIC#... ...grex calling lilmo....come in, lilmo....#STATIC#.....
Sorry, haven't been around in a while. Not tea-in-a-bottle, not canned soda. But definitely on the right track.
Some kind of coffee?
Getting colder...
<groan>
That Sobe stuff...it's an energy drink.
No, but close enuf, since I'm getting tired of not being able to guess. It was actually Powerade. Your turn, gypsi!
<raises eyebrow> Ummm...okay. =)
Serving size: 1/4 cup (36g/1.3oz) Servings per container: about 6 Calories 150 Calories from Fat 35 Total Fat: 4g Saturated Fat: 2g Cholesterol: 0mg Sodium: 270mg Total Carbohydrate: 26g Dietary Fiber: 2g Sugars: 10g Protein: 2g Vitamin A: 0% Vitamin C: 0% Calcium: 4% Iron: 6%
Haagen Dazs?
Hm... Cholesterol content is zero and fiber is non-zero. This suggests it's not a dairy product, like ice cream. It packs a lot of carbohydrate and sugar into 1/4 cup. Maybe some highly concentrated cereal product.
Not Haagen Dazs, not highly concentrated cereal product...but that's kinda on the right track...
What is Powerade?
Coke's version of Gatorade. It comes in a handy squirt bottle with a valve in the cap (so it doesn't leak) and a hinged top over that. Hmm... no Vit A or C, so not a yellow or green veggie, nor likely a fruit, but fiber indicates that it's not likely to be meat, either. Is it some kind of nut? that seems to fit the fiber, iron, and protein.
Nope. Not a beverage, and not a nut. Hint: Yes, you can use it for a breakfast food, but it isn't a food itself.
Some kind of spread? <i is unsure about "it isn't a food itself">
Meaning I don't know anyone who would eat it. Not a spread. Think internally...as in ingredient...
Is is a shake mix? (eg, carnation instant b'fast or SlimFast)
That is so close I could scream. =) "Mix" is correct...now gimme a popular brand name for mixes. Think coffee cake and muffins.
jiffy mix?
Shake & Bake!!! :)
Bisquick. I remember doughboys for breakfast at summer camp. Freshly picked blueberries and raw dough, we never could wait for them to char on the stick.
Happyboy has it! =)
cool...i feel like the fonz!
ok...
corn syrup, dextrose, high fructose corn syrup, crackermeal,
modified wheat starch, partially hydrogenated soybean oil,
dried strawberries, natural berry flavor, dried apples, citric
acid, xanthan gum, red #40, soy lecithin, blue #2
hint: the ingredients listed are only *part* of the product
AND you need not name the *exact* subspecies of this
cheerful beast.
Nutri-Grain Fruit Twists?
that's a negatory, mama-bear.
Well, except that it's crackermeal instead of flour, I'd say it sounds like a Pop Tart.
Did the rules of the game just change from listing nutritional content to listing actual ingredients?
I don't think so, but maybe some people just don't understand the rules of the game.
I don't mind playing by different rules for a change, except that makes it impossible to list any 'food' that does not consist of multiple ingredients. For instance I could not enter a tomato, only tomato sauce or pizza.
r474 gelinas...EXACTAMUNDO! you GOT IT!
Oof. Serving size: 1 0unce ; fourteen servings per container 110 calories, 5 from fat Total Fat: 1g, saturated fat 0g Cholesterol: 0mg Sodium: 200mg Total Carbohydrate: 24g Dietary fiber: 2g Sugars: 0g Protein: 3g Vitamin A: 0% Vitamin C: 0% Calcium: 4% Iron: 2%
putayter chips?
No, but probably close enough. Differentiating between potatoes and corn after they've been through that particular process is done only by taste. So you're up. :)
okie doke: tomato puree (water, toamto paste), water, cooked enriched macaroni product (flour enriched with niacin, ferrous sulfate thiamine mono-nitrate and riboflavin), high fructose corn syrup, salt, enzyme modified cheddar cheese (cheddar cheese [milk, cheese culture, salt, enzyme], water disodium phosphate), vegetable oil (corn, cottonseed or partially hydrogenated soybean oil), enzyme modified butter, oleoresin paprika, spice extract, citric acid and nonfat dry milk.
SpaghettiOO's (or however it's spelled).
YAY!!!
(Does #484 mean i actually got it, or ?????)
methinks so.
yup
Go for it, Doc!
Serving Size: 1 T Per Container: about 47 Calories: 20 from fat: 10 Total fat: 1.5g 2% Saturated: 1g 4% Cholesterol: 0mg 0% Sodium 0mg 0% Total Carbs: 3g 1% Diet. Fiber: 1g 6% Sugars: 0g Protein: 1g Vitamin A, C, Calcium: 0% Iron: 4%
Jim guesses Miracle Whip. (No eggs?)
I'd think Miracle Whip would have loads more fat and sodium. In any case, it's not that.
Miracle Whip Lite, he meant. But you are right about the sodium. Half its calories from fat sounds like a lot to us. Some kind of unsalted spread?
The numbers in resp:489 don't add up right.
* 1.5 gm fat = 13.5 calories (not 10 as stated on the label)
* 3 gm carb = 12.0 calories
* 1 gm protein = 4.0 calories
for a total of 29.5 calories, not 20.
Labels are often wrong. A 2-pound container of feta cheese says servings are 1 oz and there are 500 servings. A package of bamboo shoots claims to have 0 g fiber. The people who make the rules about labels must not read them very closely, or else only read the fat and cholesterol info, currently in fashion.
Neither Miracle Whip Lite nor any unsalted spread. I checked the numbers in #489 against the label - they're "right". My guess is that 1.5 g fat means 1.5 +/-.25 g fat, etc. and they don't count the calories in the fiber.
Also, 10 cal means 1O +/- 5 cal. And I'm pretty sure you're right about the fiber calories being defined as 0. Hmmm... no salt or sugar at all. It must not be American. :-)
The mystery food up in #489 isn't incredibly obscure or hard to guess.... BUT YOU GOTTA PLAY TO WIN! :)
peanut butter?
only if it's all-natural
1 T of peanut butter has far more grams of 'most everything....especially fat (though much less of it is saturated).
(the serving size suggests something like a condiment or a mix orf some sort. the lack of sugar is definitely confusing, even though it *should* help to narrow it down. "half" the calories from fat suggests ... is it cocoa?)
And the label says........ Ghirardelli Premium Unsweetened Cocoa! ...so carson's up next.
(oh my. I guessed it from looking at a can of Hershey's. cool.) :)
(ok... here's the stuff for my food:)
Nutrition facts
Serving size 1/4 cup (40g)
Servings per container about 11
Amount per serving
Calories 130
% Daily Value*
Total fat 0g 0%
Saturated fat 0g 0%
Cholesterol 0mg 0%
Sodium 10mg 0%
Potassium 310mg 9%
Total carbohydrate 31g 10%
Dietary fiber 2g 9%
Sugars 29g
Protein 1g
Calcium 2% Iron 6%
(the asterix is the standard "based on 2000 calorie diet" disclaimer. the
box also says that the food is "not a significant source of vitamin A and
vitamin C.")
(finally, I'll note that some numbers don't add up exactly. it's a 2.5 cup
container, 425g. hope that helps!)
Sugar with some minerals added. Kool-Aid? Tang? Honey? Maple syrup? Sorghum? (What would one do with a 'serving' of sorghum?). 40 g - about 1.5 ounces -1/4 cup, so it is not liquid, but a powder, cancel the honey and sorghum.
Not Tang; not enough Vitamin C. But I don't have a food to post, so I'm not going to guess. :/
(not Kool-Aid, not Tang, not honey, not maple syrup, not sorghum... and not a powder. I am amazed, however, that you've guessed three of the items I'd considered using.)
Is it come kind of powdered drink mix?
Sugar also weighs nearly 2 ounces/quarter cup, I guess. Sugar is not considered a powder, unless it is powdered.
(not a powdered drink, and not sugar. seriously, it's not powdered.)
Maple candy.
(not maple candy, but that's closer.)
You mean not refined cane sugar. It has to be some type of sugar plus a few minerals, according to the nutrition label. Candy is mostly sugar, so is maple syrup (sugar plus water plus whatever minerals the tree needed).
Molasses maybe? That wouold explain the iron content.
(yes, it's sugar plus minerals, but that's misleading. no, it's not molasses. yes, it's a common food.) ;)
remember it has fiber, but not a lot. No cholesterol, so it's a plant product. A wee bit of salt, but lots of potassium. Hmm. Dried banana chips?
(that's the closest guess anyone's made yet, lilmo. no, it's not dried banana chips.) (side note: I'm not sure where the sodium comes from. it's not added as an ingredient.)
Is banana part of it?
(no, banana is not part of it.)
dried apple?
(no, not dried apple.)
Some other dried fruit?
(please be more specific.) :^)
Dried mangos?
(not dried mangoes.)
Is it some other dried fruit? (if it's not, I don't want to read pages and pages of different kinds of dried fruit being guessed.)
Prunes!
ooh...good guess.
(ok, yes, it's a dried fruit. no, it's not prunes. I *think* there's only one more common dried fruit left to guess.) ;)
figs or dates
cranberries?
(not figs, not dates, not cranberries...)
dingleberries?
{Would someone please guess "raisins"? I don't wanna put up a description.}
<slaps forehead> raisins?
Neither did I. :> A friend with a dehydrator has been experimenting - dried bananas, dried kiwi fruits, tomatoes, avocadoes (don't work well, too greasy), apples, pears, peaches (these are a sticky mess, we have tried them), peppers. We buy dried sweet potatoes from China, I think they are first boiled in sugar. Dried litchis, dried jujubes (some are smoked), dried persimmons (flattened), dried lotus root, chestnuts (presoak, cook with rice gruel), haws (for tea).
What are haws?
(raisins it is. ;) Mr. Velleman, you're up.)
Serving Size 2 tbsp (30ml) Servings per container about 12 Amount Per Serving 2 tbsp 1/2 cup Calories 40 150 Calories from fat 20 80 Total Fat 2g* 3% 13% Saturated Fat 1.5g 7% 27% Cholesterol 10mg 3% 10% Sodium 30mg 1% 5% Potassium 90mg 3% 10% Total Carbohydrate 3g 1% 4% Sugars 3g Protein 2g *Amoung in 2 tbsp Vitamin A 0% 6% Calcium 8% 30% Vitamin D 6% 25% Riboflavin 6% 25% Phosphorous 6% 20%
butter? Haws grow on hawthorn trees, which grow around the A2 public library next to the parking lot. They have smelly white little flowers, and then small red fruits that hang on through the winter. The Chinese ones have larger fruits and are eaten by people, ours are eaten by birds ones they get hungry enough. They are small trees with large thorns and a tendency for form a thicket. Blackhaws are also edible, and unrelated. Viburnum species. Hawthorn is Crataegus and there are wild species of it and cultivated ones.
Butter is not half fat, but ALL fat. Also, I don't think it has any sugar or protein, or other nutritional value (vitamins & minerals). I'll guess peanut butter
Butter: 1 tbsp is 14.2 g, of which 16% is water, 100 kcal energy, 1 g protein, 92 g fat, two thirds of that saturated. It contains some calcium, iron, phosphorus, magnesium, potassium, lots of salt in the salted variety, 106 units of vitamin A (fat-soluble vitamin, none is found in olive oil), no vitamin C, minute amounts of other vitamins. In other words, not all the milk solids or even water are removed when making cream into butter and buttermilk. It is mostly, but not all, fat. Lard has no water and almost no vitamins or minerals (a bit of zinc). Margarine has vitamin A added, and sodium (salt). Olive oil has a bit of iron. You are right, butter is not half fat.
Not butter, nor peanut butter. Nor haws neither, just for the record.
Peanuts have no cholesterol. This is some animal product, cheese spread?
ear wax?
It is an animal product, indirectly, but it isn't cheese spread or earwax.
Looks like a dairy product.....
<nods>
thank you for the correction, keesan
Sour cream?
Closer in terms of texture, but still no.
A "lite" cream cheese?
nope. this is proving harder than I expected....I'll give a hint as soon as I can think of one.
Yogurt?
Not yogurt. But it is a dairy product that has had something done to it. It is not eaten as it comes, but rather is used as an ingredient, or has what was done to it reversed.
powdered milk?
Condensed milk? (add water)
Keesan has it.
Would anyone else like 'it'? I have already entered lots of foods. Happyboy, do you have anything you would like to enter? You came pretty close to the answer. (Or do people really want to be guessing things like preserved mangosteen, as we have very few other foods with nutrition labels).
you do it! you do it!
If happyboy does not want to be 'it', any other volunteers? People tend to have a tough time guessing the only sorts of food that we have around with labels on them (dried seaweed, pumpkin seeds, pomegranate syrup).
No volunteers? This time I will post an easy one. As usual, it is a single ingredient rather than a mixture, and this time it is something that you can buy in a supermarket or even probably a small grocery store. Since we buy everything in bulk (or pick it ourselves) the nutrition info is from a book: 1 cup 234 g 85% water (in prepared form) 145 kcal 6 g protein 25.2 g carb 9.23 g fiber 2.4 gg fat (sat .44, mono .84 polyunsat 1) cholesterol none, calcium 20 mg, iron 1.59 mg, Mg 56 mg, potassium 132 g sodium 1 mg (without salt added), zinc 1.15 mg, A 1.15 RE, no C, reasonable amounts of B vitamins
soybeans?
Soybeans have more fat:10 grams per cup cooked. 235 kcal (double, probably due to the fat) and 19.8 g protein. Not soybeans but your'e sort of in the right category, something dry that you cook.
oatmeal?
You are IT! (No backing out this time, you guessed right). This must be a new record for fast guessing.
Ingredienser: Honsekod 42% Svinekod 23%, Vand 22%, Oksekod 8%, Salt 2%, Krydderurter, Krydderier, Maelkeprotein, Stabilisator: E451, Antioxidant: E300, Konserverings- middel: E250.
Wurst?
Pate de fois gras? With a bit of fat pig thrown in? Looks like the Swedes/Dane/Norwegians or whatever this is have different labelling rules than the USA, where you only list ingredients in order and don't know where the 2% cutoff is, allowing manufacturers to make honey coated peanuts with a tiny trace of honey added to the white sugar. Interesting.
re567: what kind? :P
Worst.
you get it...some sort of import *Coctail Polser* :)
What was the language?
i dunno, but there were lot's of funny things by the letters and a line thru the O
I think that is Danish. Swedish would have .. over the o instead. Is there any hint on the package, such as Kobenhavn?
Serv Size 1/2 C Calories 80 Fat Cal 0 SatFat 0 Cholest 0 mg Sodium 760 mg Total Carb 19g Fiber 1 g Sugars 11 g Protein 2 gm Vit A 10% Vit C 10% Calcium 2% Iron 2%
Sauerkraut
nope
Sauerkraut has more fiber and less sugar (the sugar has mostly been fermented to lactic acid. I have made sauerkraut. Don't think there is much Vit A).
Only one guess since Monday. Clue 1: Although the serving size is 1/2 cup one would usually dilute this food.
Canned soup? Tomato soup in a can? (tomatoes are sweet, soup is salty)
Hrmph. Musta made it too easy. Yes, this is classic Campbells Tomato Soup.
Would somebody else please enter something? (Yes, your clue was far too revealing - I could not think of any other 1/2 cup that gets diluted.) If I enter something it will most likely not be easy.
Really, you don't want to be guessing Chinese olives (not related to the European ones). Someone with American eating habits please enter something.
I'm not in regular contact wiht packaged food; I just eat whatever the dining halls give me. If you want a really sadistic one, I might be able to swipe a few nutrition information cards....
Go to it!
Jim decided it is his turn. No nutrition label on this one, it came by UPS in a box, in bulk. 1 cup 143 g 40% water 350 kcal 4.5 g protein 75.7 g carbohydrates 18.5 g fiber 3.1 g fat (poly or mono unsaturated) no cholesterol Minerals: 42 mg Ca, 1.3 mg iron, 47 g Mg, 153 g phos 846 g K 3 g Na Not a whole lot of vitamins other than 1.92 g niacin 100 g folacin (For comparison 1 cup cottage cheese has 135 g Ca,.26 g iron, 11 g Mg, 297 g P 190 g K 911 g Na, .30 g niacin, 27 g folacin, making this mystery item relatively high in calcium, iron, magnesium, and potassium/sodium ratio. Cottage cheese has 0 fiber and 34 cholesterol.)
Clues - as always this is not someone's prepared mixture but a single food, and there is mention of it in winter agora in one item.
In the title of the item.
It's gotta be either the reindeers or the chestnuts. :)
You got it. Reindeers are not high in fiber or carbohydrates. We have frozen most of our chestnuts. They boil up like new and we put them in our oatmeal, mix them with green beans, etc. Very sweet flavor.
Serving size: 30g (lots per container) Calories: 90 (5 from fat) Total Fat 1g 2% Total Carb. 22g 7% D. Fiber 5g 20% Protein 3g Iron 4% (Saturated Fat, Cholesterol, Sugars, Sodium, Vitamin A, Vitamin C, and Calcium: 0%)
30 g per serving implies that the carbohydrate is sugar rather than starch, and Dr. Chocolate implies that there is chocolate in it somewhere. Right? Jim says 30 g is about 1 oz, or 2 tbps. (He learned this in nursing class). A spread of some sort? Jim says 'raspberry jam'? (It would at least go well with chocolate). I say it can't be, no Vitamin C. Peanut butter is too oily.
It's buried at the bottom, but the label proclaims 0% for sugar. A bit of arithmetic: 30g (serving) - 1g (fat) - 22g (carb.) - 3g (protein) = 4g for everything else. 30g is about 1 oz.....*if* this food's density is about the same as that of liquid water. (If you're talking weight oz's instead of fluid oz's, the 30g thing is true regardless....but then 1 oz may not equal 2 T.) I've been calling myself "Dr. Chocolate" in the cf. for years, so it might not be safe to make the assumption...
Jim asks 'rice cracker'? No salt, no sugar, no chocolate. No fun. :} (Jim asks why not :) - I tell him that } shows his beard)
Not rice crackers....much closer, though.
Wonder Bread or some variation on it without added vitamins?
The food has *way* too much fiber to be any member of the WonderSponge family. You're right that no vitamins (or minerals) were added.
Would someobody else please guess at this one? Nobody wants to be guessing at the sort of food we would post if we guessed right. Bran?
It's only 1/6 dietary fiber (by weight). Is any sort of "bran" that fiber-poor? (You are getting closer to the identity of this upstanding member of the cerials food group;)
wheat germ?
Wheat germ contains more protein and fat, but less carbo's than this food. Besides, there's no wheat in it.
Corn chips, baked?
It's not a ready-to-eat food. And corn can't match this food's fiber content.
Oatmeal? (says Jim) Quinoa? Looks like one of these dry cereals but they are ready to eat. Wheaties have about the right ratio but you said no wheat, and not ready to eat. Someone else please guess. If we win again we will enter one of those things we just bought at the Chinese grocery store (not the pickled pomelos).
It's a dry cereal(grain), but not a dry cereal(breakfast).
Who would eat just 30 g (1 oz) of a dry cereal? Cereals: millet, sorghum, rye, barley, oats, teff, rice. Buckwheat is not a grain. Amaranth. Spelt and kamut are types of wheat, as are emmer and einkorn. We cook grains by the 8 or 16 ounces. You can make noodles from corn, wheat, mung beans, or sweet potato starch.
It's rye flour. The 30 g is probably what you'd get from a couple slices of rye bread. Who wants to pose a mystery food next?
But who would cook with 30g rye flour?
Well, the 30g is about 1/4 C....so if there's 2 C of rye flour in the loaf of rye bread that you make, and you eat 1/8 of the loaf in your sandwich, then you've gotten about 30g of rye flour. Same principle as the nutritional info on a box of baking soda. The 1/8 t serving size doesn't represent the amount used in any recipe, but how much baking soda they expect one person to get when homemade biscuits are served with dinner.
I make loaves with 4 cups flour and eat half a loaf at a sitting, or more. Jim eats a whole loaf.
You have several choices: