Grex Cooking Conference

Item 133: Comfort Foods

Entered by denise on Thu Jan 30 15:56:22 1997:

I've been reading/hearing a lot lately about "Comfort Food". So hey, lets
start our own discussion of this topic.  What does YOUR comfort food have to
be like--ie, what kind of characteristics and flavors, textures, temperatures,
whatever? And more specifically, do you have any favorite comfort foods?
64 responses total.

#1 of 64 by headdoc on Thu Jan 30 23:06:30 1997:

Chocolate, semi sweet.  .with nuts or without.
Chicken soup. . .with matzoh balls or without.
Bread pudding. . . .without raisins.
Hot Cocoa. . .with or without marshmallows.


#2 of 64 by abchan on Fri Jan 31 04:03:49 1997:

Strawberries
Chocolate
Cookies
If I'm really depressed, anything I like in large quantities.


#3 of 64 by void on Fri Jan 31 23:28:04 1997:

   squashed grilled cheese sandwiches, made on one of those waffle irons that
has reversible surfaces (haven't been able to find a waffle iron like that
in quite a while, though).

   waffles

   hot chocolate made with real milk

   cinnamon toast

   lasagna


#4 of 64 by mary on Sat Feb 1 05:39:12 1997:

Tomato soup, a grilled cheese sandwich, and a good
dill pickle.


#5 of 64 by otter on Sat Feb 1 12:39:32 1997:

Comfort = warm and creamy. Spinach fettucini with Alfredo and lobster comes
immediately to mind. Oatmeal. Stroganoff. Toast with peanut butter.


#6 of 64 by eeyore on Sun Feb 2 15:50:18 1997:

french toast
grilled cheese
tomato RICE soup  (withut the rice, it's just not th same....:)
shepherd: peanutbutter and strawberry-apple jelly


#7 of 64 by coyote on Sun Feb 2 23:02:05 1997:

Re #3:
        We've got one of those waffle irons, but one of its sides doesn't heat
up as hot as the other  :(   I think it's a Black & Decker model of some sort,
if you want me to check.


#8 of 64 by void on Mon Feb 3 09:28:59 1997:

   you don't need to check, but thanks for the offer. the waffle iron my
parents have is one they obtained *years* ago with green stamps. i'm not even
sure who made it.


#9 of 64 by mta on Sun Feb 9 04:17:22 1997:

I, too, respond to warm and creamy.  Tuna cassarole made with muc\shroom soup
and fat egg noodles.  Stroganoff with yougurt and sour cream.  goulash.
grilled cheese. soups.

oh, and good crusty bread with brie or gruyer.


#10 of 64 by omni on Sun Feb 9 06:25:52 1997:

  Grilled Cheese, and a bowl of Cream of Tomato. 
  Cheese Sandwich with mustard, same soup
  Chocolate pudding (the kind that's cooked)
  Lasagna
  Spaghetti with my mother's sauce
  Tiropita (greek cheese pie)
  Cheerios.


#11 of 64 by valerie on Sun Feb 9 19:37:57 1997:

The concept of Comfort Foods mostly puzzles me.  But I sure do like warm
fresh-made-from-scratch (nonfat! high in calcium!) chocolate pudding.


#12 of 64 by bmoran on Mon Feb 10 05:21:07 1997:

I think you got the concept very well!


#13 of 64 by headdoc on Tue Feb 11 03:10:41 1997:

Valerie, what about the concept of "comfort food" puzzles you?  


#14 of 64 by valerie on Tue Feb 11 06:12:52 1997:

Everything?  Maybe it's the idea of using food for comfort.  To me, food is
for eating.  I enjoy eating food rather a lot.  But if I'm in need of comfort,
it doesn't occur to me to whip up a batch of something.  I get comfort from
my friends, not my food.  It's really hard to have a sympathetic conversation
with a chocolate pudding.  :)


#15 of 64 by davel on Tue Feb 11 12:25:49 1997:

I don't know, valerie.  Some of my best friends are puddings.


#16 of 64 by mta on Wed Feb 12 02:22:16 1997:

Some people found in their youth that people are unreliable sources of
comfort.  For us, at least the food was there.  It may have been second best
in some sense, but it was reliably there and it didn't blame when we needed
sympathy.

YMMV, of course.


#17 of 64 by otter on Wed Feb 12 23:05:22 1997:

Comfort foods are those that evoke feelings of safety and satisfaction, "all
is right with the world".
And mta makes a valid point about love/comfort and food. Then there are the
parents who can only express love and nurturing through feeding.


#18 of 64 by gracel on Thu Feb 13 01:24:39 1997:

Comfort food is what the sympathetic significant other(s) would prepare
to salve your disappointments of the [time period].  I don't think of it
as something to fix for myself.


#19 of 64 by headdoc on Fri Feb 14 00:02:32 1997:

Grace hit it on the nose for me.  "Comfot foods" are foods I turn to which
evoke positive memories of nuturing and comfort from my past.  As a child,
I was comforted mostly by others when I needed it.  Now, I have learned to
"comfort" myself and sometimes, it involves making an evocative dish.  Not
to say that i dont often turn to others-just that it isn't always necessary.


#20 of 64 by denise on Wed Feb 19 12:12:43 1997:

Misti, I agree... A lot of people [like me] didn't have reliable sources of
friends/support/whatever and thus, was easier to turn to food for comfort.
I often still turn to food when I'm stressed and/or tired [which is not always
a good thing!]  I think I have a hard time relating to people when I need the
comfort and help that I'm seeking during the 'stressed' times [having been
burned too many times in the past when having had the courage to ask for help
when asked]; thus, food is the easy out.  



#21 of 64 by mta on Wed Feb 19 23:20:13 1997:

I have less of that problem now, Denise, but when I was a kid my pleas for
comfort and sympathy were most often met with "Don't be silly.  Just cheer
up."  I didn't know how to "just cheer up."  I did figure out how to open a
can of soup and make a grilled cheese sandwhich, though.


#22 of 64 by abchan on Fri Feb 21 15:44:30 1997:

When I was growing up, the first few years after my sister was born, everyone
was too busy worrying about here to have time for me, because it was expected
that I was already old enough to take care of myself.  (I may have been
physically a lot older than her but mentally, to this day, we are not so far
apart in age)  I turned to food for comfort.  Nowadays I don't do it nearly
as much, with e-mail and all :)


#23 of 64 by denise on Fri Oct 20 20:52:16 2006:

Any new thoughts on comfort food?  For me, I still use food as a 'friend'--
for comfort, empathy, stress release. Its something that's always there for
me, unlike family and 'friends'.


#24 of 64 by tod on Fri Oct 20 21:01:32 2006:

I keep a case of cans of v8 and packs of gum in my vehicle and office for such
occasions.


#25 of 64 by edina on Mon Dec 4 23:02:41 2006:

I don't think I can point at a truly specific comfort food - but those 
I derive comfort from are cheesy and fattening.  ;-)


#26 of 64 by mynxcat on Mon Dec 4 23:11:33 2006:

McDonald's french fries - don't ask me why. And Ramen noodles.


#27 of 64 by denise on Mon Dec 4 23:13:49 2006:

Yep, cheese is good and I suppose most of MY comfort foods are fattening,
too... [chocolate, ice cream, cookies, stuff like that]. When I need a meal
for comfort food, chicken's always good, as is some various types of pasta,
grilled cheese, mashed potatoes, and the like.


#28 of 64 by denise on Mon Dec 4 23:15:38 2006:

I hadn't had Ramen noodles in years but just a couple days ago, I got some
on sale, a 6-pack for a dollar, if I remember right--at Krogers.  And I agree,
as far as french fries go, McD's are great!


#29 of 64 by tod on Mon Dec 4 23:19:54 2006:

i like pepper jack cheese or bagels with cream cheese...carbo city..yikes
i've got a ton of bigelow tea in my desk with some sugar free chewing gums
to defray any crazy urges like that though


#30 of 64 by mynxcat on Mon Dec 4 23:41:26 2006:

Tea is good. 

dunking biscuits (the UK kind, what you Americans call cookies) in tea - even
better.

Scrambled eggs - another comfort food


#31 of 64 by glenda on Tue Dec 5 00:44:57 2006:

When I'm not feeling well it is Campbell's Tomato soup, made with milk not
water, Fritos, Pepsi with or without a tuna fish sandwich on toasted bread.
I float the Fritos in the soup and catch at least one with each spoonful,
though the last few times I needed it, I got the Fritos Scoops and used the
soup sort of like a chip dip.  STeve gets worried when I ask for this
particular meal cause I only eat it when I am sick.  I will sometimes eat
tomato soup, I will at times eat a tuna sandwich (rarely - had too many of
them for lunch as a kid), and I often eat Fritos; but the only time I eat them
together is when I am sick.

Rice pudding and eggnog are also comfort foods.  When we were sick as kids
mom would make a quick version of eggnog by whipping an egg into milk and
adding vanilla, cinnamon and nutmeg.  Eggnog was for when you felt sick in
the heat of summer, creamy warm rice pudding was for when you were sick in
the cold of winter.  I don't crave them as often when sick.  I love them both
enough that I will eat them whenever I can find good versions of them.

Chocolate is the only thing that works for depression or PMS.  Since I am
currently in chemically induced menopause, I don't crave it as much.  


#32 of 64 by keesan on Tue Dec 5 00:53:19 2006:

Which chemicals?


#33 of 64 by slynne on Tue Dec 5 02:18:45 2006:

When I am sick, I love putting miso into chicken broth!

For pure comfort, I make cream of wheat with milk and honey!


#34 of 64 by keesan on Tue Dec 5 03:58:20 2006:

What would people recommend for a neighbor who is sick and has been throwing
up and not digesting things very well, other than a pepperoni pizza.  I
suggested something like white rice or plain spaghetti.  Orange juice.


#35 of 64 by denise on Tue Dec 5 04:19:25 2006:

Back when I worked with pregnant Moms who had problems with nausea and had
problems keeping food down, the doctors would put them on a 'BRAT' diet:
eating only bananas, rice, applesauce, and toast. And of course, water and
sometimes other types of fluids as well. Maybe something like this would help?


#36 of 64 by glenda on Tue Dec 5 10:03:57 2006:

Orange juice is one of the worse things to give to someone that is throwing
up.  Too acidic and causes more upset.  The BRAT diet is great.  Jello that
is mixed up, but not chilled and set is good to combat dehydration and get
a bit of sugar and protein in the system.  Diluted Gatorade will help with
dehydration, balance the electrolites, and raise the blood sugar.  At least
2 parts water, more is often better, to 1 part Gatorade.  When the kids were
little and had upset stomachs or had diarrhoea was the standard, cheap, simple
to make, rehydration formula: 1 liter/quart water, 1 level teaspoon salt, 8
level teaspoons sugar.  Mashed banana or diluted juice can be added to it for
flavoring.  I gave to them a spoonful or two at a time until they could keep
it down for more than a couple of minutes than gradually increased the amount
I gave them.

Hydration is more important than food.  The salt and sugar are needed for
electrolite and blood sugar balances.  Then start the BRAT diet when able to
keep the water down.  Slowly, just a few nibbles at a time.  Too many people
overdo it and start the whole throwing up process all over again.


#37 of 64 by tod on Wed Dec 6 00:18:03 2006:

re #34
Chicken broth with egg noodles
Gatorade

I've served that to several folks I knew who suffered chemo illness and
couldn't keep anything else down.


#38 of 64 by denise on Wed Dec 6 01:58:15 2006:

Hmm, that reminds me of a time years ago-early in the history of the Mnet/Grex
walking group. I didn't go one Saturday because I was sick. So after the group
had gone to lunch at Zingermans, Mary dropped off some wonderful chicken soup.
I still remember that thoughtful act. :-)


#39 of 64 by cmcgee on Wed Dec 6 02:21:28 2006:

A potential boyfriend brought over Zings chicken soup one time when I was
sick.  That went a long way towards overcoming some interpersonal flaws he
had exhibited previously.


#40 of 64 by keesan on Wed Dec 6 02:31:33 2006:

We suggested chicken soup and rice.  He brought us pizza and fries (which sort
of implies that is what he also cooked for himself).    I suggested spaghetti
but he can't eat tomato sauce and did not want it plain.  I thought cheese
would be hard to digest.  I offered some dry baby cereal - not interested.
Cream of wheat works for me.


#41 of 64 by mary on Wed Dec 6 13:23:16 2006:

Re: #38  I'd forgotten that.  How cool you remembered though.

Mostly, when people are feeling sick, if they stick to what they
feel like eating, they do okay.  Even if this means not having anything
but water.  The body pretty much knows.  The trick is to listen and
not be influenced by what others feel we should be eating.


#42 of 64 by keesan on Wed Dec 6 15:07:28 2006:

The neighbor feels like eating pizza when he is sick.


#43 of 64 by mary on Wed Dec 6 15:55:32 2006:

Then he should have pizza.


#44 of 64 by keesan on Wed Dec 6 18:04:25 2006:

He recovered anyway.


#45 of 64 by void on Thu Dec 7 03:03:06 2006:

Ginger tea is great for nausea.  Take a piece of ginger about the size
of your thumb.  Chop or grate it.  Simmer it in about 3 cups of water
for 20 minutes.  Strain and drink hot.


#46 of 64 by edina on Thu Dec 7 15:53:24 2006:

Peppermint tea is too....I give that to the hubby a lot who has issues 
with IBS.


#47 of 64 by void on Fri Dec 8 06:38:12 2006:

Ginger's supposed to be good for the whole digestive tract.  If hubby
gets tired of peppermint, you could try it.  :)


#48 of 64 by edina on Fri Dec 8 15:43:27 2006:

That's the back up...he doesn't drink carbonation anymore, and he's 
not crazy about ginger tea - but if he's feeling awful, he'll do 
pretty much what I suggest.


#49 of 64 by mary on Sat Dec 16 11:50:40 2006:

One comfort food is oatmeal.  This morning we're walking to steel cut oats 
made in a mini-crockpot.  I've made this with regular Quaker oats before 
but never the steel cut variety.  The idea comes via Alton Brown.  I 
haven't tasted it yet but the house smells oh so good.


#50 of 64 by furs on Sat Dec 16 12:30:39 2006:

I'd like to know the difference between steel cut and regular.  I know
generally, but I mean taste.  Well I think oatmeal is a great comfort
food to have!  I like oatmeal and oatbran cereal (the kind that's like
cream of wheat). 


#51 of 64 by mary on Sat Dec 16 12:57:07 2006:

Er, we're WAKING to oatmeal.  Walking comes much later. ;-)

Jeanne, I know not about the difference in oats, but John seems to have a 
handle on why steel cut are the better nurtritional value.  John or anyone 
else know?


#52 of 64 by remmers on Sat Dec 16 14:01:17 2006:

In our household, I guess I'm the resident expert on steel cut oats, as I 
freqently cook up a one-serving portion for myself for breakfast.  The way 
I do it is to simmer it in water with a tablespoon of ground flax seed and 
a dash of salt, until the water is absorbed - about 20 minutes.  I top it 
with nuts, fresh fruit, and milk.  Yummy and healthy!

The taste and texture are nuttier and chewier than conventional rolled 
oats.  I like it better.

The crockpot method that Mary used this morning (resp:49) is new to me.
Quite tasty in its own rather different way, although the underlying taste 
and texture of the steel cut oats came through quite well.


#53 of 64 by denise on Sat Dec 16 14:23:56 2006:

There was a diner in Durham that I enjoyed going to and they served breakfast
all day [plus after 10-11 am, they also served lunch stuff, after 4pm, dinner
stuff].  One of my favorites was their oatmeal breakfast: oatmeal with bananas
and/or raisins [I usually got both] with brown suger on the side and warm milk
on the side, too; plus an english muffin or toast [I would get the muffin]
and juice or coffee [I would get juice since I'm not a coffe person]. And the
oatmeal was really good, definitely not the instant kind.  I also liked their
made to order omelletes. I miss this diner! [and it was only a mile from my
house...]


#54 of 64 by cmcgee on Sat Dec 16 14:54:56 2006:

I used a 1 qt crockpot to make hot breakfast a lot.  I would put the oats in
a pyrex custard cup, along with the necessary water, put the cup in the
crockpot at bedtime, and wake to hot cereal already in its bowl.  I
experimented by putting Muesli and milk in the cup, and loved the outcome.

Just about any granola works nicely that way as well.  

Pyres cups come in an 8 oz size as well as 4.


#55 of 64 by keesan on Sun Dec 17 19:26:00 2006:

How long does oatmeal need to cook in a crockpot?  It sounds like you used
it as an oven rather than a pot.  Might work well for custard that way too.


#56 of 64 by cmcgee on Mon Dec 18 00:20:42 2006:

6-10 hours


#57 of 64 by denise on Mon Dec 18 00:59:50 2006:

I don't think I've ever had the steel cut oatmeal, though my Mom used to make
us some Irish oatmeal that was good.


#58 of 64 by void on Mon Dec 18 02:38:12 2006:

re resp:50: furs, steel cut oats are nuttier, chewier, and a heck of a
lot less slimy than rolled oats.  They make me think of chewy
Grape-Nuts.  I like steel-cut oats with honey and raisins, cooked in a
little extra water so they make their own milk.


#59 of 64 by slynne on Thu Dec 21 23:14:05 2006:

I have to confess that I like slimy oatmeal. So what is this crockpot 
method of making oatmeal. I mean, how long does it take in a crockpot?

My latest method for making oatmeal is to just put rolled oats in a 
bowl with boiling water. I put a plate over the bowl and wait 3-4 
minutes. They are good that way but not nearly slimy enough. I bet 
crockpot cooking could make the oatmeal all gooey the way I like it. 


#60 of 64 by mary on Thu Dec 21 23:35:35 2006:

They are gooey when cooked the way I described somewhere up there.  The 
dried cherries / cranberries get all plump and soft too.  But you really 
need to use a small crockpot, Lynne, like a one quart, max, for the 
proportions I gave to serve two.  

I have made crockpot oatmeal using regular, Quaker rolled oats too.  That 
recipe called for butter, brown sugar, nuts, and less milk.  It was quite 
good but due to the sugar the end color was very dark brown.

I prefer both the taste and the look of the steel cut oat recipe.  And if 
it's good enough for Alton Brown...  ;-)


#61 of 64 by slynne on Fri Dec 22 00:32:15 2006:

I have a very small crock pot! I think it is a quart size. I sometimes 
use it for making hot dips. But really, I hardly ever use it. But I 
love oatmeal! So how long do you leave it in the crockpot? Would it be 
ok to set it up the night before or would eight hours in a crockpot be 
too long for oatmeal?




#62 of 64 by cmcgee on Fri Dec 22 02:51:59 2006:

I use a 1 qt crock pot for hot morning oatmeal.  I pour the water on the oats
just as I go to bed, and eat the oatmeal shortly after getting up the next
morning.  8 hours seems to work ok in the small one, even with rolled oats.


#63 of 64 by keesan on Fri Dec 22 04:16:09 2006:

You can plug into a timer and plug the timer into the wall.


#64 of 64 by slynne on Fri Dec 22 04:34:58 2006:

Cool. I might have to try that this weekend!


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