Grex Cooking Conference

Item 115: FOOD!

Entered by eeyore on Mon Jan 8 05:10:11 1996:

21 new of 49 responses total.


#29 of 49 by i on Sat Aug 23 00:52:43 1997:

kcal = kilocalorie = Calorie.  The calorie is the "natural" unit of 
measure in physics and the defined scientific standard worldwide, but the
kcal is more convenient in dietary usage.  Things get abbreviated with use,
and calorie has come to mean kcal when the subject is food.


#30 of 49 by rcurl on Sun Aug 24 20:28:03 1997:

Exactly. I was pleased that that site has adopted correct terminology.  A
calorie is 4.184 joules (exactly). The use of the term calorie for the
kilocalorie in diet needs to be abandoned. Perhaps the best thing would be
to just go directly to stating energy quantities in joules, and avoid the
confusion of calorie vs kilocalorie completely.



#31 of 49 by i on Mon Aug 25 00:36:15 1997:

Given the bigger numbers that would result and America's generally high
stupidity inertial coefficient, I'd look for that change to be made about
the same time as the conversion to 100-minute hours...


#32 of 49 by rickyb on Tue Aug 26 13:14:16 1997:

btw... here's another good site for food/nutrition info:
        http://www.phys.com/



#33 of 49 by denise on Sat Jan 27 23:42:16 2007:

re:0, I'm not sure that I have a favorite 'healthy' recipe yet. But in the
past few months, I've been doing a bit more cooking from 'scratch' instead
of strictly frozen, canned, or premade food items. I've also cut way down on
my pop and instead, am drinking a lot more water. So in the past couple months
or so, I've lost about 10-12 pounds. Which means I need to keep on cooking
on my own on a regular basis. Oh, and I've cut down somewhat on my fastfood
meals as well.  :-)


#34 of 49 by keesan on Sat Jan 27 23:46:05 2007:

Another grex lost even more than that by giving up pop and getting some
exercise.  Congratulations on making these changes and sticking to it.


#35 of 49 by mynxcat on Sat Jan 27 23:52:57 2007:

congratulations denise!


#36 of 49 by denise on Sun Jan 28 00:18:09 2007:

Thanks! :-)  This is partly why I've been posting/asking so many questions
about cooking and food lately! Once I get a couple other projects out of the
way, I'll try and spend a bit more time trying to focus on the exercise thing,
too.


#37 of 49 by keesan on Sun Jan 28 03:53:49 2007:

Muscles burn fat.


#38 of 49 by mary on Sun Jan 28 13:19:07 2007:

That "fact" has recently come under scrutiny and is now being questioned.


#39 of 49 by denise on Sun Jan 28 13:34:32 2007:

"Another grex lost even more than that by giving up pop and getting some
exercise."   I'm sure there probably has been. :-)  But as long as I'm not
gaining any more and even better is the losing some is fine with me. I'll be
even happier if it continues, even if its at a somewhat slower rate so the
weight will stay off.  In time, I'll be trying to incorporate more exercise
in my day to day life. But for now, one step at a time [no pun intended]; I
want/need to be comfortable with my current goals [more goals than just the
food aspect] and keeping them going before I add something else. I'm prone
to getting overwhelmed pretty easily and then I'm apt to do nothing at all.


#40 of 49 by mary on Sun Jan 28 14:59:21 2007:

Sounds like an excellent plan, Denise.  I could do with a bit of your 
philosophy.


#41 of 49 by jadecat on Mon Jan 29 16:16:09 2007:

resp:39  I'll echo Mary and say that your 'one step at a time' approach
is great. :) And- "they" say that kind of approach means you're much
more likely to succeed.


#42 of 49 by denise on Mon Jan 29 22:19:25 2007:

Thanks for the feedback and I do hope this will continue to be successful.
Though I do know it'll take a long time to lose the weight I should do to be
more healthy.  However, it IS hard sometimes not to eat as I should during
times of stress, depression, or other rough times. Then I go into a not-caring
mode.  


#43 of 49 by slynne on Mon Jan 29 23:48:56 2007:

Denise, you might wish to look into the "Health at Every Size" 
philosophy. It is kinder because it doesnt put a huge focus on what, 
for many, is an unobtainable goal: weight loss. The HAES approach is 
that if you get your body moving and eat a healthy diet, you will gain 
pretty significant health benefits even if you dont happen to lose 
weight. I know that when I am eating well and moving around, I feel a 
lot better anyways :)



#44 of 49 by denise on Tue Jan 30 18:17:32 2007:

Thanks for the suggestion, Lynne. I went and looked at a website that had a
lot of this information--and I plan on going back to read more of it when I
have a bit more time. 

I do now that just food and exercise play a role in what someone weighs. I'll
have to enter a separate item about this sometime soon so that this item can
stay on track with 'Food' and not just about what a healthy size and/or
dieting is.  :-)


#45 of 49 by denise on Thu Feb 1 02:55:16 2007:

[I was planning on entering an item sometime about health/diet/weight stuff
especially/including stuff on obesity and other overweight related issues.
But for now I'm going to hold off while the discussion that's going on in the
current Agora conference. I might still post something in the future; though
if anyone else wants to go ahead and post something on this topic here and/or
in the health conference-and I can link it here- please feel free to do so.
I'd still participate.]


#46 of 49 by cmcgee on Thu Feb 1 13:57:14 2007:

I read an article in the NYT last weekend which distinguished between
eating and "nutritionism".  Essentially, the author claimed that nutrition
had become an "ism", a belief system that focused on such small elements of
eating that believers  had unbalanced behaviors around eating.  

I'll try to find the article and do a better summary.


#47 of 49 by remmers on Thu Feb 1 16:57:21 2007:

You're thinking of the article "Unhappy Meals" by Michael Pollan (author 
of the books _The Omnivore's Dilemma_ and _The Botany of Desire_).  
Pollan views nutrition trends like "low fat" and "low carb", and crazes 
for particular nutrients like "oat bran" and "omega-3 fatty acids", as 
fads that miss the big picture and do little or nothing to promote 
health. His article begins:

    Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.

The rest of the article elaborates on this theme.  By "food" he means 
things that your great-great-grandmother would have recognized as food, 
which rules out a lot of the things that people stuff in their mouths 
these days.

Full article is here: 
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/28/magazine/28nutritionism.t.html


#48 of 49 by jadecat on Thu Feb 1 20:05:04 2007:

Sounds similar to the 'if you can't pronounce the ingredients don't eat
it' kind of meal planning.


#49 of 49 by cmcgee on Fri Feb 2 13:55:28 2007:

Yes, remmers, that was the one.  Thanks for the url and great summary.
One of the things I liked in his article is that meal times are important
parts of human interaction, and that those interactions themselves have health
impacts.  


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