Grex Cooking Conference

Item 110: The tea item

Entered by md on Sat Oct 14 17:51:01 1995:

225 new of 229 responses total.


#5 of 229 by popcorn on Mon Oct 16 13:49:10 1995:

I worry about the bleaches they use in tea bags, even though we're probably
consuming them in such small quantities that they're harmless.  They're not
harmless to the environment.  But teabags are sure a lot more convenient than
doing the tea-ball thing, so I end up using them at work and restaurants.


#6 of 229 by md on Mon Oct 16 15:07:09 1995:

I heard a story once about a British tea-taster: "Hmmm... Oolong.
Ceylon number two. A touch of red Hangchow.  And, of course, the bag."


#7 of 229 by md on Mon Oct 16 15:15:32 1995:

I don't know what tea has in it apart from a little caffein, but 
it wakes me up and clears my head much better than coffee does.  
(Might be psychosomatic, as popcorn says, but I'm not arguing.) 

If I'm making a whole pot, which I seldom do, I like to use loose 
tea and a tea ball.  Otherwise, bags are just fine.  In addition 
to Twining's China Black, I like Bigelow's Constant Comment.  
Constant Comment is *the* thing to drink when you come in from 
raking leaves on a chilly autumn day.  (Remember chilly autumn 
days?) 

I've always loved iced tea.  We have a "Mr. Coffee" iced tea 
maker that makes a half-gallon of any kind of iced tea you like, 
ready to drink in fifteen minutes.  

Some herb teas are wonderful.  Blueberry leaf is one of my 
favorites.  Chamomile tea has, for me, a relaxing and nostalgic 
quality, like bringing a warm sunlit meadow indoors.  Also, some 
of the Celestial Seasonings blends, like "Emperor's Delight" or 
"Autumn Harvest," are okay.  But many commercial herb tea blends 
are bulked out with hibiscus flowers, for some reason, and you 
might even find hibiscus flowers to be the primary ingredient in 
some tea blends that don't have hibiscus in their name.  

Milk: pro or con?  I'm against it in tea.  Makes me sick to my 
stomach, in fact.


#8 of 229 by simcha on Mon Oct 16 18:18:50 1995:

I love tea, and I love coffee, too.  For tea, I prefer Twining's
Earl Grey or English Breakfast, either brewed in my automatic drip 
coffee pot (that gold coffee filter is easier to clean than the
balls, and we end up with no leaves!).  I find that we make the
tea on the strong side; I like it straight and my husband adds
unrefined sugar.

Pregnant I drink Celestial seasonings mandarin orange or mint
medley.  (Beware...I think it's bigelow's mint that is flavored
tea, complete with caffeine).  For those, I use bags.  My kids
drink apple orchard (again, celest. seas. caff free).  They aren't
allowed to have soda, so they like making this or hot chocolate 
for themselves.


#9 of 229 by davel on Mon Oct 16 19:53:26 1995:

I have yet to find a tea ball or strainer that doesn't leave me feeling
like I'm drinking sawdust.


#10 of 229 by iggy on Mon Oct 16 21:23:59 1995:

i like irish breakfast tea, english breakfast, darjeeling, and
the regular ol' red rose orange pekoe.
i just bought some pure peppermint herb tea, which my cat seems to
like more than i do.
once i tried to drink catnip tea around a cat...heh.. i think that
is something everyone should try once.


#11 of 229 by omni on Tue Oct 17 05:42:23 1995:

  I can drink it with milk, I prefer cream, with sugar. But usually it's
lemon and sugar, or just sugar. 

 I keep all my teabags in mon big ziploc bag so that they can intermingle;
gets pretty interesting after a few months.


#12 of 229 by eeyore on Wed Oct 18 21:59:52 1995:

we have a glas teapot at work that apperntly works wonderfully....there is a 
middlei cylendar that has verrrrrry thin slits to hold the tea in, and let the
water out...one of these day's i'm gonna try it...:)


#13 of 229 by aaron on Sun Oct 22 18:10:26 1995:

Last time I was in England, I discovered that there is a quaint custom
of asking, "Would you like a cup of tea," before your host brings you a
cup of tea.  The question is pro forma.  Your answer, "Yes," "No," or
"A giant purple monster ate my boxer shorts," will inevitably result in
your being brought a nice, hot cup of tea.

Why not use a proper English tea pot, with built-in strainer, and deal
with the stray tea leaf?  You'll be happier.


#14 of 229 by eeyore on Mon Oct 23 17:46:03 1995:

thats what this glass pot is....t's like corning ware, and very strong.


#15 of 229 by glenda on Thu Oct 26 02:20:49 1995:

We got one of those glass teapots as a wedding gift.  You put the loose tea in
the middle cylinder and pour boiling water through it.  Ours has a glass base
with an indentation in it that holds a small metal cup for a voltive candle
to keep the tea warm.  Whenever we can both decide on the same tea we use it,
makes wonderful tea and gently keeps it warm.  However, we usually don't
agree on which tea to drink at the moment and so we have several tea ball,
strainer thingies, special spoon shaped tea ball devices so that we can each
make a cup of whatever.  (STeve loves to go and pick out a selection of teas
at the People's Food Co-op.  Makes live interesting cause he doesn't always
label the bags and you have to guess which is what by smelling them.)

This is the time of year that I start thinking about Russian Tea (orange, lemon
spiced tea) and will probably make up a batch (as soon as I find the box that
is hiding my recipe box or we get a working monitor so that I can access my
computer recipe files).  Will post the recipe when I do.


#16 of 229 by eeyore on Thu Oct 26 15:11:09 1995:

we just got our noel tea in at work.....it's good sstuff, even tho the smell is
sorta like bubblegum...:)


#17 of 229 by iggy on Fri Oct 27 17:34:09 1995:

i want to get a teapot, even if it is just a plain ceramic one...

i really detest earl grey tea. to me, it tastes like that bitter
dandelion milk.


#18 of 229 by mdw on Sun Nov 5 11:56:14 1995:

I have found that the proper way to enjoy earl grey is with lemon.
I agree earl grey by itself is sort of scary stuff - it always
reminded me of mosquito repellent.  But with lemon & sugar, I
find that it turns into pure ambrosia.


#19 of 229 by popcorn on Mon Nov 6 05:18:18 1995:

I even like it straight up.


#20 of 229 by freida on Sun Nov 12 08:09:03 1995:

I love english breakfast and ceylon teas...I make them in my automatic drip
coffe maker and I make them rather strong.  I don't drink coffee.  I like mine
with just enough milk, the thin stuff, to cool it to drinking temps.  I drink
about 2 pots a day.  For herb teas, we all like raspberry, red zinger or lemon
zinger.  My husband loves sleepy time tea.  I also like mint tea when I am
not feeling well.  Got sick of constant comment a while ago.  


#21 of 229 by popcorn on Sun Nov 12 16:57:33 1995:

I've been drinking a lot of "Harvest Spice" (I think that's its name)
tea, from Celestial Seasonings, at work lately.  I tried their Bengal Spice
flavor, too, on the theory that it has cardamom in it and cardamom is one of
my favorite spices, but the resulting brew seemed to be all aroma and no
flavor.  Which led me right back to Harvest Spice again.  Yum!


#22 of 229 by md on Mon Nov 13 16:13:58 1995:

Harvest Spice is wonderful.


#23 of 229 by bmoran on Thu Nov 16 15:21:45 1995:

I've been trying some of the over 100 kinds of tea we have at our store.
One thing some people forget is that tea must expand to three times its
dried state to fully infuse. So fill your tea balls and spoons only about
a third of the way, and use the proper amounts. About a teaspoon per six
ounce cup, so a mug (mostly twelve oz) would be two teaspoons. Three mins.
steeping for green teas, four to five for blacks. Herbal tisanes (there is
no "tea" leaves in them) are pretty much to taste, but often not more than
ten mins.


#24 of 229 by denise on Wed Nov 29 16:18:54 1995:

I'm a big tea drinker, too... I drink more iced tea than hot tea, but I
do enjoy them both. Am currently drinking ginger-peach iced tea.  For
hot teas, depending on my mood, sometimes I drink them 'straight',
sometimes with cream, sometimes with sugar or sweetner.  Down south,
here in NC where I am currently residing, when one orders iced tea,
95% of the time you'll get it already sweetend unless you specifically
ask for unsweetened tea... I used to always drink my iced tea unsweetened
but have gotten into the habit of drinking sweetened, mainly because
at restaurants, its easier [and fresher], though I'm trying to break myself
from that habit!


#25 of 229 by iggy on Sun Dec 17 13:45:32 1995:

well, i got a teapot and teaball, and even dug out a fancy teacup!
i'd been making a lot of tea of late.
a friend told me to try boiling a mixture of half milk and half water,
then steeping the tea in that. i was skeptical, but it is actually
pretty good!


#26 of 229 by chelsea on Sun Dec 17 14:10:36 1995:

I've wish I liked tea.  The tradition is so elegant.
But I can't seem to aquire a taste for it.


#27 of 229 by chelsea on Sun Dec 17 14:11:22 1995:

s/acquire/aquire  

Think I'll get some cooffee going.


#28 of 229 by arabella on Sat Aug 3 19:00:16 1996:

"I like coffee,
I like tea,
I like the Java Jive,
and it likes me."



#29 of 229 by iggy on Sat Sep 28 13:53:04 1996:

in about 3 weeks, marcvh and i are going to victoria, B.C.
word has it that  it is the most british of all canada.
so, i'm going to drag marc off to a tea whn we are there.
i've heard that the empress hotel is wonderful, except the
more i found out about it, themore inclined i am
to take tea elsewhere.
it is 20 bucks a person, AND you have to dress up for it.
but you do get tea, crumpets, jam, strawberries, cream, teacakes, sandwiches.

we'll probably go to the james bay tearoom. i dont think you have
to be formal there.


#30 of 229 by chelsea on Sat Sep 28 14:53:14 1996:

I suspect you'll love Victoria, Christine.  John and I were there
not too long ago and enjoyed it a whole lot.  Leave at least one
night free to wander down along the water's edge where there 
are street artists galore.

Too, as of last weekend the currency exchange rate was 34%.
So the price of that High Tea isn't all that bad.


#31 of 229 by md on Sun Sep 29 15:34:09 1996:

We enjoyed afternoon teas at a hotel in Mayfair when we were last
in London.  Can't get much more authentic than that, you'd think,
and yet the tea itself seemed a minor part of the affair.  I was
and remain cheerfully ignorant of that particular Britishism.


#32 of 229 by iggy on Wed Oct 23 12:50:46 1996:

ok, i did it.
i thought it would be straightforward tea, but it wasnt quite..
marc and i had a seat next to the window, and could see the horse drawn
carriages going up and down the street. nice view. when the tea came, it was on
a tray with all sorts of food on it. sandwiches <egg salad, tuna> a lemon tart,
2 spherical baked dough balls. <i assumed these were scones>, jam, a bowl of
whipped cream <!> a bowl of something else, i think the waitress said it was
trifle.. it seemed to be a fruit pudding mixed with cake and covered in whipped
cream. plus a teapot covered in a cozy, and cream and sugar for the tea.

at the time, the place was fairly empty so i couldnt take my
]cues from other people. 
i had no idea if i were to eat the trifle with a spoon
or smear it on the scones. and the bowl of whipped cream was
a puzzle to me. <blush>
i ended up putting jam on the scones and a little blip of whipped cream.
that seemed odd, the whipped cream.
i alternated putting a bit of trifle on the scones, and eating it
with a spoon.

could any knowledgable person  offer ant hints on this matter?



#33 of 229 by e4808mc on Thu Oct 24 03:19:34 1996:

Oh,my, am I envious or WHAT!!
You had a wonderful High Tea.  The 'whipped cream' was probably Devonshire
cream, a slightly thickend, or 'clotted' cream.  
Trifle is a sweet that is layers of cake, fruit, custard, and whipped cream.
Sometimes it also has sherry in it. It is usually eaten by itself.
The scones were meant to carry the butter, the jam, and the Devonshire cream.
High Tea is often like a light supper, hence the sandwiches.  I've had mixed
grill (grilled tomato, sausage, & other things) sometimes instead of
sandwiches.
Then you had lemon tarts, which possibly were small pastries filled with lemon
curd, which is also sometimes offered as a spread, like jam.  
It sounds like a *very* lovely tea, my dear.


#34 of 229 by iggy on Thu Oct 24 12:46:02 1996:

thanks for the information on the tea!
and yes, it was very nice. i used it as a light late lunch.

i had heard the term clotted cream before.. but the reason i called
it whipped cream was that it had the appearance of coming out of a can.
but.. it did seem a bit heavier than the stuff we buy here in the grocery
stores.

i asked my brother about it, and he thought that the clotted cream
was supposed to go in the tea. i didnt think so, as there was already
cream on the table for it. 


#35 of 229 by e4808mc on Thu Oct 24 17:28:40 1996:

Clotted cream is a spread for breads, not an addition to the liquid.


#36 of 229 by headdoc on Sun Nov 10 08:22:08 1996:

In the South of England, we loved Scones, clotted cream and strawberry jam
with tea.  Devonshire especially features clotted cream.  You can buy it here
at Merchant of Vino in the exact jars they sell it in over there.  It doesn't
have a strong taste but a delicious consistency, and  I am sure, tons of
calories from fat.  But once in a while, you have to party.  I could never
understand how the English have high tea like that, then drink pints of beer
(do you believ the size of those pints?) and then go home to have dinner. 
And most of them are so thin.  Good genes, I guess.


#37 of 229 by scott on Sun Nov 10 14:12:43 1996:

No, most of the dinner food is so incredibly bland that they just sit down
and talk, then go to bed.  ;)


#38 of 229 by void on Tue Nov 19 06:28:01 1996:

   a british pint is twenty ounces.


#39 of 229 by denise on Mon Dec 23 16:38:44 1996:

Early last week, I was in Ashevill, NC with a friend-where we did the
Christmas candlelight tour of the Biltmore Esate  [the largest
private 'home' in the country; built over 100 years ago by George
Vanderbilt.  The house is really decked out for the holidays--and
the 'grounds' are absoloutely wonderfu, too [over 80,000+ acres!].

On Tuesday afternoon, before heading back to 'reality' [home], we
had a lovely "English" Tea at a place called [none other than]
Chelsea's Tea House! This place was incredible... as was the tea selection
AND the plate of foods that came with it--including several kinds of 'finger'
sandwiches, scones with cream and jam, quiche, a bowl of cake/fruit&cream,
and all sorts of delicious desserts. I do plan on going back again
sometimesoon! [Its only a 4 hour drive away!  :-)   ]




#40 of 229 by abchan on Mon Dec 23 16:44:06 1996:

Finally, another person who doesn't think a 4 hour drive is that long! :) :)


#41 of 229 by popcorn on Tue Dec 24 23:10:03 1996:

(I drove 10 hours yesterday)


#42 of 229 by abchan on Wed Dec 25 18:30:00 1996:

Whereto? (I'm assuming from A^2)


#43 of 229 by popcorn on Wed Dec 25 19:27:04 1996:

Nope, it was from mom's place in NYC *to* Ann Arbor.


#44 of 229 by denise on Sat Dec 28 23:29:32 1996:

Abchan, for something fun. special, and/or exciting, a 4 hour trip is nothing!
It went by fast, especially in comparison to the drives I make to AA [which
is usually a bit over 12 hours each way!]


#45 of 229 by arabella on Sat Jan 25 09:01:55 1997:

Valerie, you drive from New york City to Ann Arbor in only 
10 hours?  Geez, what's your average speed.  I assume it's
about 650 miles.  



#46 of 229 by valerie on Sun Jan 26 18:58:06 1997:

It's 630 miles.  When I do it in 9-10 hours I drive continuously with only
two brief stops along the way.  It's more fun to make a massive detour to
Ithaca, though, and visit the gorges and the little handcraft shops there and
have a meal at the Moosewood.  Especially if the weather is nice enough to
really enjoy the gorges.


#47 of 229 by abchan on Tue Jan 28 00:30:03 1997:

<I never thought I'd say this, but I miss Ithaca, snow and all>


#48 of 229 by denise on Thu Jan 30 15:53:15 1997:

Back to the tea discussion... I've heard several people [in the usenet's tea
newsgroup] say how wonderful the "Mrs. Tea" tea-maker/brewer is.  Since I love
tea hot or cold but haven't  had much lately, Iwent out and brought one of
these tea makers for myself.  I had mixed feelings about it; after all, what's
so hard about brewing a cup of tea??  But then, though it isn't HARD to do,
its something that I just hadn't gotten around to doing much of [even though
if it wre already MADE, I'd drinkn lots of it.  So... What this Mrs Tea tea
maker is all about--its very similar to the Mr Coffee coffee brewers [made,
after all, by the same company]. You have your part on top where you put in
a coffee filter [er, tea filter] and add either loose tea or tea bags. Then
ya pour in the water into the resevoir [sp?] and place the tea pot [that comes
with it] underneath, on the hot plate part. Then ya turn it on and let it go.
Whhile the tea is brewing, the hot plate warms up the tea pot ahead of time
as well as keeps the brewed tea hot for you while you're working on the
current cup of te you're drinking.  

How do I like it?? I think its great!  I've had more tea in the past 4 days
then I had in the previous several months!  For example, in the morning, I
set it up to brew while I'm in the shower... After I get out of the shower,
its ready to go. In the evenings after work, I can have another nice cup of
tea to help unwinde after a stressful day at work.  As for iced tea--the best
iced tea I've had comes from brewed tea, not that instant powdered stuff. So
I'm sure I'll be doing a lot more of the iced tea stuff with this, too.

Has anyone else tried this thing yet?


#49 of 229 by void on Fri Jan 31 23:19:14 1997:

   call me a snob, but tea made with water that hasn't been boiled just
doesn't taste right to me. then again, i picked up my tea-drinking habits in
england at an early age. ;)  to answer the question, i haven't tried a mrs.
tea yet.


#50 of 229 by otter on Sat Feb 1 12:34:57 1997:

Agreed. Not only does the water need to be boiled, tea under 200 degrees seems
cold and unhappy to me. Add me to the snob list.


#51 of 229 by davel on Sat Feb 1 13:11:25 1997:

OK.  Done.
8-{)]


#52 of 229 by denise on Sat Feb 1 14:06:55 1997:

Well, this tea, if it hasn't been boiled, it certainly is close to it--it's
always steaming hot when done, much too hot to drink right away.  There have
been a number of people that have voiced the same concerns as above [in the
tea newsgroup] but once they tried it [Mrs Tea], they DID like it! [At least
those that responded!!]  

Anyway, at least y'all know that *I* am not a snob!! And I *like* my tea! 


#53 of 229 by omni on Fri Jan 16 05:53:17 1998:

  I have been drinking Twinings Decaf Strawberry tea with sugar and a little
pinch of lemon which really brings out the strawberry flavor.


#54 of 229 by iggy on Mon Feb 8 18:30:43 1999:

you know what is good, and fairly new?
general foods international teas, (just like the coffee, except made with
tea)
the pacific northwest was its test market. it went over well
and is now been introduced to a few other careful markets.
it isnt available in michigan yet.... so every few months i send my
mom a carepackage of it.
the flavors: english breakfast creme (like straightforward tea with
a bit of cream and sugar)
i forgot the names of the others, but there is a cinnamon creme (mom's fav)
and a raspberry creme and an orange creme.

i have only tried the english breakfast creme (excellent) and
the cinnamon creme. i didnt much care for that, as it was
akin to drinking potpourri, but mom loves it.
mom also likes the raspberry creme a lot.



#55 of 229 by md on Mon Feb 8 19:52:39 1999:

Very belated question:  What exactly is "creme"?


#56 of 229 by iggy on Mon Feb 8 23:13:40 1999:

the non-dairy powdered stuff.
(belated? i just entered that today)


#57 of 229 by coyote on Wed Jul 4 00:39:54 2001:

I recently discovered Chai -- a sort of spiced Indian tea -- and have been
guzzling it at any restaurant I go to that has it.  Recently I tried making
some on my own at home, going with what I know about what seasonings are in
it and with what I had lying around at home.  It turned out surprisingly
tasty and was very easy to make, so if anybody wants to give it a try, here's
what I did:

I couldn't find any loose leaf black tea at home, so I used three bags of
English breakfast for one kettle.  I broke up one stick of cinnamon and added
it, a bunch of cloves, 4 or 5 black peppercorns, and a healthy-sized pinch
of anise seed.  I wanted to add all-spice, but only had the ground, not,
whole, at home, so I ripped open one of the tea bags, sprinkled a good amount
into the bag, wrapped it back up, and tied the bag shut with a string.
I put all this into my big orange tea ball and steeped it in a kettle of
near-boiling water for 15, maybe 20 minutes.  I added a couple big squirts
of honey to the batch, too.  It turned out quite deliciously, but not exactly
like anything I've had at a restaurant (but each of those is different, too),
and I'm almost out so I'll need to make some more soon.  I've been drinking
it iced, sometimes plain and sometimes 1/2 and 1/2 with milk.  I haven't tried
it hot yet, but at restaurants I've had it that way before and it's also
excellent.  One thing I'll probably change when I next make it is the
brewing time: it definitely could have been a fair amount stronger.

If you're at all into tea, you should give this a try.



#58 of 229 by keesan on Wed Jul 4 14:28:28 2001:

Chai is the Chinese (and Russian) word meaning tea.


#59 of 229 by coyote on Wed Jul 4 19:03:38 2001:

I knew it was the Russian word, but I didn't know it was the Chinese.  Do you
happen to know the origin of the word, or who was borrowing from whom?


#60 of 229 by keesan on Wed Jul 4 23:20:23 2001:

Russians do not grow tea, which needs a warmer climate.  They import it, along
with the word.


#61 of 229 by orinoco on Thu Jul 12 05:29:04 2001:

In standard Arabic, the word for tea is "atai," but the word we ran across
in Morocco was "chai" (pronounced "shai," since the Roman-alphabet-users in
Morocco mostly speak French).  


#62 of 229 by danr on Tue Sep 11 02:59:28 2001:

Meijer sells a line of green teas called "Teas of Ceylon" that are 
pretty good. I've tried two so far: one flavored with lemon grass and 
another that's mint-flaovred.


#63 of 229 by orinoco on Tue Sep 11 23:24:35 2001:

Lemongrass tea is some fabulous stuff.  It also allegedly keeps mosquitoes
away, since it contains the active ingredient used in citronella candles.


#64 of 229 by lumen on Sat Nov 12 03:14:21 2005:

resp:15 Where can I get that (and around where I am)?

Once I can get into a house, I think I might start an herb garden, with
mostly herbs for herbal tea.


#65 of 229 by denise on Wed May 10 01:09:51 2006:

I've really gotten into tea these past few years... Especially learned a lot
from a local tea shop that was in Durham for a while.  So a lot of the tea
I drink now are brewed from tea leaves [vs the traditional tea bags, though
I still do the bagged stuff from time to time.  Lately, its been a  lot of
iced tea for me, too.


#66 of 229 by eprom on Wed May 10 02:57:56 2006:

I like Oregon Chai. I buy the concentate boxed liquid type. You just add
steamed milk and it is wonderful. I've tried the powdered version, but 
find that its waaay too sugary.

I like drinking green tea sometimes. So, I unknowningly bought the premium 
version of Bigalows green tea. Instead of the regular paper type envelope, 
they come in individually hermetically sealed mylar packing to keep the
freshness in.


#67 of 229 by slynne on Wed May 10 03:04:13 2006:

I drink a lot of tea too but mostly just do tea bags because they are
easier. I *love* pretty much any kind of black tea with milk and maybe a
little sugar or honey. 


#68 of 229 by mynxcat on Thu Aug 17 15:58:41 2006:

Resp 58 - Chai is also the Hindi/other Indic languages word for tea.

REsp 61 - In Arabic (the kind I learned in Kuwait - no French 
influence there), the word was shai. (pronounced shay). I've never 
seen "atai"


#69 of 229 by denise on Fri Oct 20 17:21:34 2006:

Now that the cooler weather is settling in, I'm drinking much more hot tea
and much less iced.  I just had a pot of Harney and Son's cinnamon tea; good
stuff! :-)

I'm on a couple tea lists [yahoo groups] and on one of the lists, someone just
organized a tea exchange: There are 14 of us participating, so everyone sends
14 samples of an autumn tea [we're all using loose tea]. The host collects
the tea from everyone and then sends back to everyone, one sample from each
person. There'll be enough tea for at least one 2-4 cup pot.  I got mine
mailed out a few days ago [another brand of cinnamon tea]. The deadline is
today-so by next week, I'll have lots of good tea to try. I'm looking forward
to it.

I think I've gotten spoiled with good tea these past few years so that there
are a few teas I *don't* like much any more, unless there are no other
options. And it seems that most restaurants don't know how to brew a good cup
of tea, hence, I mainly drink mine at home.  I guess I've turned into a tea
snob!


#70 of 229 by void on Fri Nov 24 23:59:25 2006:

I'm still a fan of good old Red Rose.


#71 of 229 by denise on Sat Nov 25 02:29:47 2006:

I do like Red Rose better than plain [black] Lipton. :-)


#72 of 229 by void on Sat Nov 25 07:21:26 2006:

Lipton is just yucky.  I got hooked on British black tea as a kid (my
whole family did), and Red Rose was the closest any of us could find
when we moved back.


#73 of 229 by denise on Sat Nov 25 15:44:40 2006:

Though lately [the past couple years or so], I rarely have just regular/plain
tea; I've been doing the flavored teas.


#74 of 229 by slynne on Tue Dec 5 02:15:08 2006:

You can buy PG Tips at Meijers. I dont mind Lipton but I'll admit that I
prefer other teas to it. 


#75 of 229 by denise on Wed Dec 6 23:43:06 2006:

I don't remember if I've mentioned in a previous post or not... But for anyone
really interested in anything/all things tea related, there are some good
groups on yahoo. My 2 favorites: Afternoon Tea Across America [ATAA for short]
and TeaMail. ATAA is a bit more informal thant teamail but I like them both.
I have a separate screen name on aol that I get my tea-related mail at. That
way, when I just want to relax a bit, I can sip a cup of tea while catching
up on my fun mail. 

This has been a Public Service Announcement. :-)


#76 of 229 by cmcgee on Thu Dec 7 12:41:47 2006:

Thank you!  Isn't there a way to not get email, and just join the groups? 
Then you sign on and read the archived mail when you have time.


#77 of 229 by denise on Thu Dec 7 14:17:58 2006:

Yep, Colleen, there is that feature. In most of the yahoo groups that I'm
involved with, I do the email option to make sure I don't miss anything good
[since, like here, there's a lot of drift under said item headers, though the
drift often have good information. Though there have been groups where I just
go through the archives.


#78 of 229 by denise on Sun May 6 08:16:40 2007:

When my brother, sister-in-law and niece were over for dinner this 
evening, we had iced green tea during dinner. Later in the evening we 
had a good peach tea from Harney's & Sons [which can be picked up in 
the cafe at Barnes and Noble, among other places, too].  The 'summer 
peach' also is good as an iced tea, especially during the nicer 
weather. A touch of splenda brings out the flavor just a bit.


#79 of 229 by anderyn on Mon Aug 13 14:16:42 2007:

Right now I'm drinking a Harney&Sons winter blend. I love this tea so much
that I always have to have some in my desk at work, and I order it during the
summer too.


#80 of 229 by denise on Mon Aug 13 23:30:25 2007:

Yep, I really like their winter blend [as well as their cinnamon tea as
well; that's one of my  all-time [readily available] teas].  I was at
B&N today where they sell a variety of H&S's  tea and was tempted to try
their mango tea.  But alas, I resisted the temptation.

I finally tried my 'Achai Green Tea' [by The Republic of Tea] the other
day  [that I brought  a few weeks ago].  It's good hot but I think its
even better cold [and of course, I add a bit  of splenda to bring out
the fruity flavor a bit more].  If any of y'all would like a sample of 
it, do let me know!


#81 of 229 by edina on Tue Aug 14 18:58:05 2007:

I learned something this weekend, not so much about tea, but a tea 
company.  First, I drink pretty much just iced tea, rarely hot tea.  
Second, I love to use Irish teas (Barrys Gold or Lyons) but to be 
honest, Liptonis fine too.  That being said, I'm switching to Luzianne.

I was watching "Feasting on Asphalt 2" with Alton Brown on the Food 
Network.  This series is called "The River Run" as they go up the 
Mississippi, looking for great places to eat (no highways or chain 
restaurants allowed).  They started in southern LA and went up into 
New Orleans and stopped at Luzianne for a tour.  What made me decide 
to switch is that the company kept all of their employees on full 
salary in the months after Hurricane Katrina, even when the plant was 
closed.  

Anyone who is that dedicated to their employees deserves, at the very 
least, my patronage.


#82 of 229 by denise on Tue Aug 14 19:12:26 2007:

Wow, that's pretty cool.  And Luzianne's tea tastes fine iced.  If/when
I use 'just'  traditional tea [black], that's my favorite to use [I do
think I remember it listed at least  part of the tea leaves as being
orange pekoe tea].

I've been in a phase for quite awhile now where I'm drinking
predominately flavored  teas. And when I do make it, I make enough to
save as iced.  Or to have warm later in  the day. This morning I had a
couple cups of that cinnamon tea I mentioned earlier,  from Harney's and
Sons.

Are any of you familiar with Rooibos? It's also known as red tea or
redbush tea. It's  only grown in the southern part of Africa, and though
its not 'officially' tea--not coming  from the plant that provides us
with regular tea, its very similar. And it has a lot of  health benefits
as well [and is safe to use for even issues involved with babies--like 
with colic and stuff like that].  Though it does have a somewhat
different flavor than  tea; I don't like the 'plain' rooibos all that
much but do enjoy many of the flavored  ones.  It's also prepared a bit
differently. To get more of the beneficial effects, instead  of brewing
it for a few minutes after the tea stops boiling, this is actually
'cooked' or  boiled in water for a period of time [I think its suggested
to boil for about 10 minutes]. I  haven't had any in awhile, but when I
did, I made a big pot of it at a time [because it  took a bit longer to
prepare the first time and it does reheat well]. I'd buy it in loose 
leaf form and add the necessarry amount to the pot of water and let it
boil. When its  down, I'd strain it into my teapot or another 'storage'
container.  

I'll post more info on the health benefits and such at a later time.


#83 of 229 by cmcgee on Wed Aug 15 00:24:44 2007:

I don't use anything but Luzianne.  When I first moved up here in the 60s it
was part of my quarterly care package from my college roommate living in
Houston.  (along with decent salsa).

But I hadn't heard about their employment stance.  Good for them.  Now I have
a reason to proselytize.  


#84 of 229 by denise on Wed Aug 15 02:14:14 2007:

From a website about rooibos tea:

The Health Benefits of Rooibos...Rooibos Tea - Red Tea ..
With its many positive attributes, Rooibos tea is a great choice of
drink for health  conscious people.

Rooibos tea contains no colors, additives or preservatives, making it a
natural  beverage. It contains no caffeine. According to studies
conducted in South Africa and  Japan Rooibos has been shown to aid in
health problems such as insomnia, irritability,  headaches, nervous
tension, and hypertension.

Studies also show that this tea contains anti - spasmodic agents, which
can relieve  stomach cramping and colic in infants. 

In South Africa Rooibos has been used to treat allergies such as hay
fever, asthma and  eczema very effectively .

 It is also used to treat irritated skin. Rooibos is brewed and placed
 directly on infected 
areas. Rooibos contains anti - oxidants which can help slow the aging
process and boost  the immune system. 

Rooibos is a great thirst quencher and is an excellent beverage for
active people,  including children. Most kids will drink Rooibos without
added sugar or sweeteners.

This tea contains almost no oxalic acid, making it a good beverage for
people prone to  kidney stones. Rooibos contains the following minerals:
copper, iron and potassium,  calcium, fluoride, zinc, manganese, alpha-
hydroxy ( for healthy skin ) and magnesium  (for the nervous system) are
also components of this tea. In South Africa pregnant  women and nursing
mothers drink Rooibos because it contains no caffeine.


#85 of 229 by denise on Wed Aug 15 02:26:48 2007:

Rooibos is supposed to be even better for you than gree tea:

The Rooibos Tea Revelations

When Annique first made this discovery, it was impossible for her to
know the many  amazing health benefits Rooibos tea can provide.
Throughout many years of rigorous  scientific investigation, many
benefits have surfaced and more are sure to follow.  Foremost, Rooibos
tea has been proven to contain many flavinoids, free-radical fighting 
antioxidants (similar to Polyphenols which have made Green tea famous).
Even more  alluring, unconfirmed studies are showing that these
flavinoids may be up to 50 times  more effective than those found in
Green tea.


And in literature:

A "Novel" tea

Recently, the tea industry has seen yet another resounding rush for Red
Tea. Within the  past year, sales for Rooibos tea have spiked about 70
percent. This is due partially to  the fact that, of course, that tea is
"hot," but also for more surreptitious means found in  Pop Culture.
Widely acclaimed throughout the media and a New York Times Bestseller, 
The No.1 Ladies Detective Agency by Alexander McCall Smith extols the
delicious  qualities of naturally sweet Rooibos tea. Set in Botswana,
Africa, The No.1 Ladies  Detective Agency is the first book in a series
(of the same title), wherein the main  character, Precious Ramotswe,
frequently entertains clients and visitors with a cup of  what is
referred to as "Bush" tea or "Redbush" tea (these, as we know, are 
colloquialisms for Rooibos). The enormous success of this series seems
to have  catalyzed a remarkable demand for Red tea, bringing Rooibos tea
once again to the  forefront of the beverage world.


A "Red" by any other name...

No matter what it is called (Red Tea, Redbush Tea, Bush tea, Mountain
tea, Long life  tea, Herbal Allergy tea or Rooibos Tea), all can agree
that Rooibos is a delicious,  naturally sweet and versatile beverage...
but this isn't the full extent of Rooibos' utility.  Currently,
companies spanning many industries are developing innovative non-
traditional methods to employ this handy herb. When added to lotions,
Rooibos has  been shown as an effective herbal remedy for skin ailments
such as eczema and acne.  In cooking, Rooibos tea has been shown to be
an effective meat tenderizer and a  wonderful marinade (for more cooking
information, please visit the March 2004 issue)...  Rooibos is also
being used as a dye, a vitamin, a spice and just about anything that 
could be imagined (Not to mention the fact that Rooibos tea makes an
interesting  subject for a "Monthly Newsletter For Tea Aficionados!").

Rooibos tea has expanded from a small herb indigenous to a select region
of South  Africa, known only to a small group of tribesman, into one of
the most consumed and  well-known herbs in the world. The wonderful
flavor and startling versatility make  Rooibos worth the praise it has
received, a mainstay for the converted and a must-try  for the not-yet
enlightened.

Ok, enough about rooibos for one sitting... :-)  As you can tell, I
enjoy rooibos as well  as regular tea--though its not as readily
available in many stores; though there are a  number of places they can
be ordered online.  Which I need to ahead and order soon  since I don't
have any at all anymore here at home. [If anyone's interested in trying 
some and/or going in on an order with me to save on shipping and/or
splitting a specific  order so you can try it out yourself, do let me
know!]  :-)


#86 of 229 by denise on Wed Aug 15 02:28:02 2007:

And I'm still looking forward to a tea outing in the near future... 
[see/discuss in the  grexpedition item here in this conference?]


#87 of 229 by slynne on Fri Aug 17 20:07:19 2007:

Where would one buy Luzianne tea? I love to patronize companies that 
treat their employees well. 


#88 of 229 by edina on Fri Aug 17 20:21:23 2007:

I have found it in my grocery store.  I'd imagine Busch's carried it.


#89 of 229 by denise on Fri Aug 17 20:54:36 2007:

I just brought a package the other day at 'Save-a-lot' on Washtenaw.
Though I bet its at  many local grocery stores.  If you can't find any,
Lynne, I can pick up some for you.


#90 of 229 by cmcgee on Fri Aug 17 21:09:36 2007:

SaveALot, Meijers, Kroger, probably Buschs


#91 of 229 by slynne on Fri Aug 17 21:17:58 2007:

Oh ok. So it is fairly common. I probably just havent really noticed it 
before


#92 of 229 by denise on Wed Sep 5 22:49:14 2007:

Speaking of Luzianne tea, I just made 2 quarts of it using the
refridgerator method of  brewing.  The package I have consists of
'family'sized tea bags. Follow the directions  for sun tea and do it
that way OR, fill up a 2 quart container with water, add 2 of the  bags
[I fasten the lid on over the tea bag stringy things so the bags don't
sink down to  the bottom of the container, making it diffucult to
retrieve out of the container with a  smallish mouth to it].
Refridgerate it over night; in the morning, remove the tea bags  and
throw them away [or use them for compost or whatever]. Adjust to taste 
accordinly; add suger/sweetner if you want to.

Speaking of disposing tea leaves--I dunno if I've mentioned this here
before--but don't  throw out the leaves down the drain. The leaves can
swell and cause the pipes to clog  up. It happened to me a few years ago
and it took the maintenance guy awhile to  unclog it. Though I didn't
tell him what I did.  A tiny bit shouldn't hurt but still, it doesn't 
hurt to dispose of them in another way.


#93 of 229 by denise on Wed Sep 5 22:50:58 2007:

I just love iced chai, one of my all time favorites.  I came across this
recipe from the  BellaOnline website:




Angel Scianna
BellaOnline's Tea Editor

How to make your own Chai spice

Chai Tea good for the body

I remember when I was younger, I use to work with an East Indian Lady.
Every Friday  she would bring a Thermos into work, filled with a
delightful concoction. I loved the  aroma, kind of gave me a warm fuzzy
feeling. The taste was equally pleasing. I later  found out it was her
family recipe for Chai Tea. Really Chai just means tea. There is a  long
belief that Chai tea is Ayurvedic. That translates into The life
science. Ayu (life)  Veda (knoweledge). The spices in Chai tea mixes are
believed to each have healing  potential. They promote everything from
easing digestive issues, stimulating the senses  and increasing your
feeling of well being. 

Over the years I have perfected my recipe for the succulent flavor of
Chai tea. I would  like to share this with you, you can play around with
the amount of spices you add so  you can create your own blend.

The basics of Chai are all the same, you start with a few key
ingredients. 

Basic Chai recipe
2 cups water
2 cups milk
4 teaspoons loose tea, usually black tea but you can substitute your
choice.   cup granulated sugar 2 cinnamon sticks 8 whole cloves 4 black
pepper corns   teaspoon ground cardamom, you can crush cardamom pods if
they are available to  you usually about 3 should cover it. Combine all
the ingredients in a medium saucepan, heat over medium heat just until 
you start to break a boil. Reduce the heat and simmer for about 5
minutes. You will start to smell the beautiful aroma in the air. Stain
the tea through a tea strainer  and drink either hot or cold.

If you want to make up a chai mix as a gift. Replace the loose tea with
an instant  unsweetened black tea mix. Just package in cellophane bags,
write up a tag and  directions for a quick thank you gift.

I can smell the beauty of the brew right now. Have a Chai tea party and
serve some  traditional East Indian cookies. Play around and create your
personal Chai tea mixes. If  you want to talk more, lets meet up in the
Tea forum over a nice cup of tea.


#94 of 229 by slynne on Thu Sep 6 00:57:12 2007:

I had a nice chai latte yesterday from Starbucks. I wasnt expecting it
to be as good as it was. My sister gave a gift certificate. Even better,
my co-workers gave me a gift certificate to Sweetwaters for my birthday
so I might have another chai latte tommorrow :) 


#95 of 229 by denise on Thu Sep 6 09:36:02 2007:

Sounds great, Lynne! Its been 2-3 weeks since I've had chai.  I need to
use the  previously posted recipe sometime soon and make my own...  Let
us know how you like  Sweetwaters, I haven't ever been there.


#96 of 229 by slynne on Thu Sep 6 19:54:32 2007:

I *love* Sweetwaters although I didnt go for the Chai this morning since
I was more in a coffee mood. They have a lot of really good teas. They
are expensive though. 


#97 of 229 by denise on Mon Sep 10 23:42:07 2007:

I had a cup of cold chai today; very good!  


#98 of 229 by denise on Mon Sep 10 23:45:09 2007:

Can you tell yet that I enjoy my tea??  Here's an article I came across 
today [though there a few of the comments I'm not sure of the accuracy 
of but its still an interesting read]:

10 things you did not know about Tea.
by Lorraine Bevere
http://www.fogtea.com

Legend has it that a Chinese emperor was the first to
discover Tea when some leaves were blown by chance into a 
bowl containing some boiling hot water. The tea we drink 
today is exactly the same and the brewing process has 
never changed.

In recent Dutch studies it was found that men who drank 
black tea which contains catechins were fifty percent less 
likely to die of ischemic heart disease. This is when our 
arteries become clogged and are unable to function 
properly due to narrowing.

 
Studies have shown that drinking a half to two cups of tea 
per day may promote fertility by inhibiting abnormalities 
in our chromosomes. In a recent test 250 women drank as 
little as half a cup of tea per day and their pregnancy 
rates were twice as high as those who did not.

To cure puffy eyes simply lay down and place either a wet 
tea bag or tea compress over each eye and leave for about 
20 minutes. The swelling around the eyes will miraculously 
disappear and your eyes will return to their former glory.

Placing black tea in a sachet and then putting it in the 
refrigerator will easily help to control the most stubborn 
of distasteful odors. The tea absorbs all traces of 
unpleasant smells and replaces them with its own truly 
delightful fragrance.

A substance called Tannic acid which naturally occurs in 
tea is said to help in the battle against warts. Apply a 
wet tea bag to the infected area for about 15 minutes 
three times daily and the wart will slowly begin to shrink 
until it eventually disappears.

It has widely been known for many years that men in Asian 
countries who consume green tea have very low instances of 
prostate cancer. Many prominent researchers believe that 
that this is due to green tea containing many powerful 
antioxidants and preventative anti-cancer agents.

In recent Australian studies CSIRO scientists found that 
the occurrence of skin cancer in laboratory mice was 
greatly reduced when they were given black tea. It is 
thought that polyphenols which are very strong 
antioxidants and are contained in the tea are the most 
likely reason for this phenomenon.

The words most expensive teabag was commissioned for the 
75th anniversary of the PG TIPS tea company. The bag was 
filled with 280 diamonds and expensive limited edition tea 
leaves. The bag cost seven thousand five hundred pounds 
and would be auctioned for a British children's hospital.

You would probably think that turkey would be a nation of 
mainly Coffee drinkers but Turkey is now the worlds number 
one nation when it comes to tea drinking. The Turks drink 
a staggering twenty to thirty cups per day each and tea is 
now practically their national drink.



#99 of 229 by void on Sun Sep 23 21:53:40 2007:

Most of the tea I drink is black tea.  Right now I am working my way
through a package of Trader Joe's Irish Breakfast Tea.  If I'm buying
bottled tea, I tend to go for Honest Tea rooibos or any of the green
varieties.


#100 of 229 by denise on Mon Sep 24 01:28:33 2007:

I haven't had irish tea in awhile, my grandmother would roll over in her
 grave if she knew!  I'm not familiar with Honest Tea [nor with honesty,
 either], but I do enjoy a good flavored rooibos, though [am not crazy 
about it 'plain', though].  


#101 of 229 by edina on Mon Sep 24 16:26:41 2007:

Lyons Tea and Barry's Gold are both Irish teas I love.  It makes 
fabulous iced tea.


#102 of 229 by denise on Mon Sep 24 19:02:43 2007:

I'm out of Barry's tea, though I enjoyed it while I had it. The first
time  I had some was when a cousin from Ireland came to visit and she
bought  some along for us. And it was even more special since it's my
mom's maiden  name [and my mother and grandmoter were big tea drinkers].


#103 of 229 by cmcgee on Mon Sep 24 19:04:17 2007:

We never did our afternoon tea break.

How about organizing something?  I'm going to lead off with tea at
Sweetwaters on Washington, since I don't think slynne can come up with a
good enough excuse to avoid that one.



#104 of 229 by denise on Mon Sep 24 19:09:25 2007:

I'd love to do a tea expedition sometime soon but I can't attend until
pay  day in a couple weeks.  If y'all go before then, do let me know how
it  goes! :-)


#105 of 229 by slynne on Sun Sep 30 14:38:24 2007:

ha ha Yeah, I probably cant come up with an excuse to avoid a 5p tea at
Sweatwaters ;) They have pretty good tea too. 


#106 of 229 by cmcgee on Mon Oct 1 15:44:31 2007:

Ok, 5 pm tea at Sweetwaters.  Denise, you name the day.


#107 of 229 by denise on Wed Oct 3 23:14:51 2007:

Is Wed. next week ok for tea at Sweetwaters [10/10/07]?  I get my check 
that day...  


#108 of 229 by slynne on Wed Oct 3 23:17:11 2007:

Yeah. That sounds great. 


#109 of 229 by cmcgee on Thu Oct 4 00:15:36 2007:

Sounds good to me.


#110 of 229 by glenda on Thu Oct 4 01:21:44 2007:

I will try to make it as well.


#111 of 229 by denise on Thu Oct 4 10:38:06 2007:

Cool!  IIRC, though, there are a couple Sweetwaters locations?  If so, 
which one are we talking about? [I'm rarely downtown, so I aalso need to
 allow time to find where the public parking is...]


#112 of 229 by cmcgee on Thu Oct 4 12:39:14 2007:

I suggested the Sweetwaters at the southeast corner of Ashley and
Washington, above the Earle Restaurant, and across the street from
Grizzly Peak (the old Del Rio location).  

As I understand it, slynne works across the street from this location.  


#113 of 229 by slynne on Thu Oct 4 18:47:06 2007:

Yep. I work right across the street. In fact, I am looking down on
Sweetwaters RIGHT NOW. Well...sort of. The angle isnt quite right for me
to see all the way down to the street so I guess it is more accurate to
say that I am looking at the building that contains Sweetwaters ;) 


#114 of 229 by denise on Thu Oct 4 22:51:40 2007:

Ok, I'll find it. I'm glad you mentioned that its upstairs/above the 
Earle; I may have been looking all over for it and not finding it.  Once
I  do find it, than I'll find where to park [sometimes I wish I knew
downtown  AA better than I do...]


#115 of 229 by slynne on Fri Oct 5 02:21:37 2007:

No no. Sweetwaters isnt upstairs, it is on the ground floor. It is NEXT
to the Earle. Parking shouldnt be too much of a problem. There are lots
of metered spaces and a city lot that is kitty corner to Sweatwaters. I
*think* that the metered spaces are free after six pm. 


#116 of 229 by slynne on Fri Oct 5 02:22:06 2007:

Anyways, it is right on the corner of Ashley and Washington


#117 of 229 by remmers on Fri Oct 5 13:32:31 2007:

The Earle is underground.


#118 of 229 by slynne on Fri Oct 5 14:09:27 2007:

It is? I've never actually been there so I just assumed that it was at
street level


#119 of 229 by samiam on Tue Oct 9 14:51:54 2007:

Well, the entrance is at street level, but the restaurant itself is 
downstairs.


#120 of 229 by slynne on Wed Oct 10 02:22:34 2007:

well. I'll be at sweetwaters tomorrow at 5p


#121 of 229 by cmcgee on Wed Oct 10 03:28:44 2007:

me too


#122 of 229 by denise on Wed Oct 10 12:08:15 2007:

Hey y'all, I'm not going to be able to go after all. :-(


#123 of 229 by cmcgee on Wed Oct 10 14:06:11 2007:

awwwww

How about next month?  (or maybe tomorrow?)


#124 of 229 by slynne on Wed Oct 10 18:15:58 2007:

I cant do it tomorrow, I am afraid. Thursdays is the day I go out
drinking with my co-workers. 


#125 of 229 by cmcgee on Wed Oct 10 23:59:26 2007:

Let's try again next month. 


#126 of 229 by slynne on Thu Oct 11 00:07:57 2007:

ok


#127 of 229 by denise on Thu Oct 11 02:37:44 2007:

I hope you guys were able to still go?  I just checked in to see how it 
went...  Thursdays usually aren't good for me [I'm in Dearborn most of
the  day and then have an appt back in AA afterwards].

Some time soon, though!  I do want to check this place out!


#128 of 229 by denise on Sat Oct 13 02:42:57 2007:

For those of you interested in the tea 'party' at Sweetwaters, could
this  coming Monday work?  If not, how about the followwing week on
Monday or  Tuesday?  [Do we want to include the people that drink that
drink that  awful coffee'nated stuff?  :-)


#129 of 229 by cmcgee on Sat Oct 13 02:49:17 2007:

This Monday works for me, as does Monday or Tuesday of the following
week.



#130 of 229 by glenda on Sat Oct 13 05:49:01 2007:

This Monday is my stitching group, next Monday or Tuesday works.


#131 of 229 by slynne on Sat Oct 13 14:32:06 2007:

I have plans next tuesday but usually monday or tuesday works


#132 of 229 by cmcgee on Sat Oct 13 16:52:28 2007:

How about next Monday?  Seems like that's OK for everyone so far.


#133 of 229 by denise on Sun Oct 14 21:43:39 2007:

Sounds good to me!  Still at 5:00?


#134 of 229 by cmcgee on Mon Oct 15 01:46:52 2007:

Ok, this is what is shaping up:  Monday, October 22, at 5:00 pm at
Sweetwaters at 123 West Washington at Ashley.  Sweetwaters is the ground
floor of the old hotel that has The Earle restaurant in the basement. It
is across the street from Grizzly Peak (the old Del Rio).  


#135 of 229 by slynne on Mon Oct 15 03:04:53 2007:

Okie dokie. Sounds good to me. 



#136 of 229 by denise on Thu Oct 18 00:09:56 2007:

I'm planning on being there.


#137 of 229 by slynne on Fri Oct 19 00:10:03 2007:

I am going to be there but probably wont stay for *too* long because I
am working hard on getting my new dog used to a routine. I think I can
stay for an hour or so though. 


#138 of 229 by cmcgee on Mon Oct 22 18:01:32 2007:

Today is the great Tea Adventure.    


#139 of 229 by denise on Mon Oct 22 19:00:39 2007:

Yep, it  is; I'm looking forward to it [and will be heading out of here 
soon!]  Are yoiu going to be able to make this one, Glenda? [I can't 
remember if you responded or not].  Debbi? Twila?


#140 of 229 by glenda on Mon Oct 22 20:16:11 2007:

Planning on it.  Might have STeve in tow, if he doesn't want to be
dropped off at home first.


#141 of 229 by eprom on Mon Oct 22 20:19:46 2007:

I bought a box of Liptons Peach white tea.

It was kinda pricy for the size, but I had to give it a try. While it 
does smell very peachy, it doesn't have much of a peach taste. I may 
have used too much water. It also has some green tea mixed with it too,
but doesn't seem to over power the white tea flavor.

Instead of the traditional paper tea bags, they used a plastic mesh. 
I'm thinking that allows more of the essential oils to flow through.



#142 of 229 by cmcgee on Tue Oct 23 16:13:51 2007:

Tea For Two Times Two was lovely.

glenda, lynne, denise, cmcgee showed up.  We solved many of the world's
problems.  


#143 of 229 by cmcgee on Tue Oct 23 16:15:13 2007:

Here's the link to the Flicker thread about the Kitchen Conference.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/grex/discuss/72157602631936067/

Photos of Tea For Two Times Two participants also there.  


#144 of 229 by mynxcat on Tue Oct 23 16:16:43 2007:

It says the picture is unavailable.


#145 of 229 by cmcgee on Tue Oct 23 16:19:11 2007:

darn
ok

changed the perms.  Try again


#146 of 229 by mynxcat on Tue Oct 23 16:50:33 2007:

The picture's not showing up on that page, but when I click the spaceholder
it takes me to your photostream where I can see the picture.


#147 of 229 by denise on Tue Oct 23 19:20:33 2007:

It's working fine for me this afternoon.


#148 of 229 by slynne on Wed Oct 24 16:59:07 2007:

I got lucky because the Rooibos tea that I like was the tea of the day
so I got it on sale :)


#149 of 229 by denise on Wed Oct 24 18:18:24 2007:

I'm all out of rooibos here at home. :-(  But did recently buy some
carmel  vanilla tea.  I think it'll be nice as a desserty-like tea but I
 oversteeped the first cup I had.  And though I usually don't add cream
to  tea, this is one I think would benefit from a bit [likewas, Earl
Grey  tastes great with cream and a touch of sweetner].


#150 of 229 by slynne on Wed Oct 24 19:19:43 2007:

I *love* just about any black tea with milk and sugar. I've usually
found cream or half and half to be too much for tea though. Even whole
milk can be although I often use it. My favorite for tea is 2% milk. 



#151 of 229 by denise on Fri Oct 26 01:13:51 2007:

There's no way that skim or even 1% milk can work with tea.


#152 of 229 by slynne on Fri Oct 26 01:30:39 2007:

I know. I think skim milk is good for drinking straight and it is good
on cereal and stuff but I never buy it anymore because I like 2% better
and it goes so well in tea. Coffee, on the other hand, pretty much needs
half and half or cream as far as I am concerned. 


#153 of 229 by glenda on Fri Oct 26 02:26:53 2007:

Denise, the tea I was telling you about is Stash Premium double spice
chai black tea.  It may be a tea bag, but it is wonderful and I am
steeping a cup as I type this.


#154 of 229 by denise on Fri Oct 26 02:27:29 2007:

Coffee, in my opinion, just needs to provide the aroma and nothing else.
 You don't even have to actually poor me a cup as I can smell it as its 
brewing [which does not happen all that often in my house]. With tea,
make  a pot and I'm ready to go [the added splenda, lemon, and/or cream
depends  on the particular tea being served].  

My carmel vanilla tea I've been wanting to try with milk or cream but I 
wasn't able to stop at the grocery store in the past few days. On my way
 home from stuff today, I did the drive-thru thing at MickyD's and
instead  of pop, juice, or a shake, I got a container of milk to have
for  tomorrow's tea [and maybe some oatmeal, too].


#155 of 229 by denise on Fri Oct 26 02:28:59 2007:

Glenda slipped in...  I do need to go grocery shopping, maybe tomorrow I
 can get there--and I *will* look for it.  If the regular grocery store 
doesn't have it, I'm sure Whole Foods or Hillers will [didn't you say 
something about Hiller's the other night?]


#156 of 229 by mynxcat on Fri Oct 26 13:39:33 2007:

Mmmmm - Chai tea - the next best thing to Indian chai.


#157 of 229 by cmcgee on Fri Oct 26 13:42:33 2007:

Mynx, could you give us a recipe for Indian chai?  

One of my students made it for me on a cold rainy November afternoon,
and I LOVE it.  


#158 of 229 by mynxcat on Fri Oct 26 14:07:04 2007:

Here goes (the measurements are vague, I eyeball it)

Boil 2 cups of water with 2 tea bags (or equivalent loose-leaf or according
to how strong you want the tea to be) and sugar to taste. Optional - grate
a bit of ginger into the water while it boils - be sure to get the juice into
the boiling water. When the water is at a rapid boil and it's a dark almost
black colour, add the milk - we use 2% or whole (mostly 3%). About half to
3/4 of a cup depending on strength. (I usually eyeball it - till the colour
turns a dark tan colour). Get it to a boil again. Boil it till it turns the
colour you want it - darker it is, the stronger (and sometimes more bitter)
it is. Type of use to use - Black Tea, English Breakfa, Spiced Chai (don't
use the ginger if you use this), Irish Breakfast, Orange Pekoe. Darjeeling
doesn't seem to work well - neither does Earl Grey and definitely no herbal
tea or green tea. 

You also get a tea spice (chai masala) that you add after the milk in pinches
to get the Spiced Chai effect. 

I'm sorry it's all so vague - but I just make it by colour and personal
sweetness. Hope that helps. 


#159 of 229 by slynne on Fri Oct 26 15:15:11 2007:

That sounds pretty yummy


#160 of 229 by glenda on Fri Oct 26 21:43:33 2007:

Re #155, yeah, I get it at Hiller's.  Haven't looked elsewhere. 
Probably should, Hiller's can be pricey at times.

I don't add anything to it, I like it straight up though I can see
adding a bit of honey or sugar and milk would be good.  I do like Chai
Latte, but sometimes just plain black spiced tea is just as yummy.


#161 of 229 by cmcgee on Fri Oct 26 22:06:46 2007:

Mynx, any chance of getting some ingredients and proportions on the chai
masala? 


#162 of 229 by mynxcat on Fri Oct 26 22:13:00 2007:

I buy the chai masala - Toronto has a huge South Asian community so it's easy
to come by every Indian food-product imaginable. Here's one recipe -
http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/3925/recipe_spice_09.html, but I don't
know how good it is.


#163 of 229 by denise on Wed Oct 31 01:29:57 2007:

Glenda, when I was at Kroger's today, I found that Stash spiced chai
that  we were talking about. I'm not sure what it costs where you buy
yours but  it's on sale right now for $2.49, I think it was. So if
that's cheaper  than where you get it [I think you mentioned Hiller's?]
and you're running  low, you might want to pick some up this week.  I
brought a box and plan  to try it tomorrow [it was too late in the day
today to drink anything  caffeinated].

So where's the next tea outing going to take place?


#164 of 229 by glenda on Thu Nov 1 10:51:27 2007:

Thanks for the heads up.  I do get it at Hiller's.  Normal price is around
$3.59 it was on sale this week for $2.79.  I will pick up a box or two on my
way home tonight.


#165 of 229 by denise on Thu Nov 1 23:11:33 2007:

I tried my chai tea yesterday morning; I love chai but for some reason,
I  didn't like this one at all.  So Glenda, the next time I know I'll be
 seeing you, you can have my box [as I still have a number of other teas
 available to me right now].


#166 of 229 by glenda on Wed Feb 20 23:39:48 2008:

Is it about time for another tea party?


#167 of 229 by slynne on Fri Feb 22 04:51:27 2008:

We could do a middle of the day one. 


#168 of 229 by glenda on Fri Feb 22 04:53:56 2008:

Monday, Wednesday, or (especially) Friday would work best for me.  I
have a class from 11:00 - 12:15 on Tues/Thurs and have to be at work at
2 on Tuesday, 3 on Thursday.  Monday I work until 1, Wednesday until 12.
 Friday is my free/play day.


#169 of 229 by slynne on Fri Feb 22 04:56:56 2008:

Do you work far from downtown, glenda? I mean I can usually be pretty
flexible with my lunch time. If we could meet downtown somewhere on a
Monday or Wednesday at 1 or 2, it would be pretty cool.  Naturally I'll
suggest Sweetwaters since I am there all the time anyways.


#170 of 229 by glenda on Sat Feb 23 03:37:26 2008:

I work at WCC so downtown is about 10-15 minutes plus parking time. 
Sweetwaters is fine by me.


#171 of 229 by slynne on Sat Feb 23 19:35:31 2008:

Well...anyone else interested?


#172 of 229 by cmcgee on Tue Feb 26 17:20:58 2008:

Me.


#173 of 229 by denise on Thu Feb 28 20:53:21 2008:

Sorry I haven't been here in ages [and can only stay on for a couple 
minutes right now], but I'm game for another tea party!  M/W/F can work 
for me.  

Does someone want to choose a date/time for Sweetwaters? Whenever it'd 
decided for, I'll do my best to be there. But as I briefly mentioned in 
agora, I don't think my mom's going to be with us much longer, so I'm
not  definitely committing right now... [but keep in mind, she's had her
down  phases before and has come back, though this has been the worst
and  longest so far].


#174 of 229 by slynne on Fri Feb 29 00:03:45 2008:

We could do it next week?


#175 of 229 by denise on Thu Mar 6 02:20:02 2008:

Well, right now, I don't want to make any definite commitments for the 
next week or two; I'll probably be spending more time in Dearborn...


#176 of 229 by slynne on Thu Mar 6 03:45:02 2008:

I can totally understand that, denise. 


#177 of 229 by mary on Thu Mar 6 13:29:31 2008:

(Mary hugs Denise.)


#178 of 229 by glenda on Sun Mar 9 01:46:28 2008:

I understand, Denise.  Hugs from us as well.  My making plans for the
near future are also up in the air.  My great aunt is in hospice and
slipped into a coma.  Not expected to last the weekend or much after.

It would be great if we could get together for tea within the next week
or so though.  I go in for a thyroidectomy on the 21st and could do with
a little cheering up before hand.


#179 of 229 by slynne on Sun Mar 9 21:46:14 2008:

I leave for Paris next Saturday but during the day this week works for
me. 


#180 of 229 by glenda on Sun Mar 9 22:29:54 2008:

Ok, shall we say Wednesday around 12:30-1:00 at Sweetwaters.


#181 of 229 by tod on Sun Mar 9 23:34:38 2008:

re #179
Have a great time.  I look forward to online pics.


#182 of 229 by slynne on Sun Mar 9 23:56:25 2008:

That works for me.


#183 of 229 by slynne on Sun Mar 9 23:56:46 2008:

Oh and I will certainly post Paris photos online!


#184 of 229 by glenda on Mon Mar 10 03:17:00 2008:

I get off work at WCC at 12:00, I'll head straight there.  


#185 of 229 by slynne on Mon Mar 10 17:46:57 2008:

Okie dokie


#186 of 229 by denise on Wed Mar 12 01:32:57 2008:

Wow, it sounds like you have a lot going on, too, Glenda--with your
great- aunt and with the upcoming thyroidectomy.  I'm glad your aunt has
hospice  working with her; hospice comes out several times a week to
help with my  mom and it's been a godsend for my dad, that's for sure
[and for my mom,  too].

Enjoy your teatime tomorrow; I'm going to pass on this one [though I'd 
rather be drinking tea instead of going to Dearborn. But with time
ticking  down, I feel I need to go spend time with my mom. Not that
she's aware  that I'm there, mind you. I guess I'm doing it more for
me...]


#187 of 229 by denise on Wed Mar 12 01:34:37 2008:

So have some tea for me... Chai would be good, as would Earl Grey, or 
something pretty light and calming, or maybe something a bit more sweet 
and soothing.  :-)


#188 of 229 by glenda on Wed Mar 12 05:09:35 2008:

We will be thinking of you.


#189 of 229 by slynne on Thu Mar 13 00:56:58 2008:

Well, glenda and I had an enjoyable hour at Sweetwaters today. I have to
confess though that I didnt drink any tea. But glenda did so it is ok. 


#190 of 229 by glenda on Thu Mar 13 05:17:02 2008:

Indeed, an enjoyable break from the more mundane parts of the day.  The
Chai Latte was yummy, as always. 


#191 of 229 by denise on Tue Sep 2 00:27:07 2008:

Does anyone know if the new Sweetwaters shop on Plymouth Rd near Green
Rd  is open yet??  


#192 of 229 by mary on Tue Sep 2 12:25:58 2008:

They've posted a sign saying Olga's is open but nothing, so far, on 
Sweetwaters.  I'll drive through today and check it out.


#193 of 229 by slynne on Tue Sep 2 23:13:34 2008:

Ooooh. I love Olga's! It's all the sugar in the bread I am sure but it
would still be nice to go there once a while without needing to go to
the mall. 


#194 of 229 by denise on Wed Sep 3 09:53:29 2008:

Yep, I love Olga's, too; I really missed it while living down south...
Not  that I go there a  lot now, but still. I thinnk this new location
will be  an easy one to get to  [but for  me, so  is the mall one; both
right off  of the freeway. But like you said, Lynne, it's nice going
somewhere  without having to go to the mall].


#195 of 229 by denise on Sat Jan 31 02:11:32 2009:

I read in the paper the other day that the newest Sweetwaters is finally
open in the new shops on the northwest corner of Plymouth Rd and Green
Rd. Anyone game for checking it out sometime soon? And/or Olga's that's
in the same group of stores?  I know it's a bit out of the way for the
downtown folks, though.


#196 of 229 by glenda on Sun Feb 1 07:56:34 2009:

I'd be up to checking out the newest Sweetwaters depending on day and
time.  Unfortunately, Olga's is probably a no go.  I am extremely
allergic to lamb and avoid restaurants with it on the menu.


#197 of 229 by denise on Mon Feb 2 19:04:19 2009:

Glenda, your schedule's a lot busier than mine is. What days/times would
be good for you? It'll give us something to work around.


#198 of 229 by glenda on Wed Feb 4 17:55:44 2009:

Actually my schedule is pretty much wide open.  I graduated in August,
my part time job at WCC ended July 1, and I still haven't found a new
one.  Other than the occasional interview or Dr appt, I am free.


#199 of 229 by denise on Thu Feb 12 02:51:41 2009:

Congrats on graduating, Glenda! And good luck in finding a job.

Do you have a particular day or time of day that you'd like to meet at
Sweetwaters? Next week, Wednesday morning and later Thursday afternoon
wouldn't work; neither would Mon-Thurs evenings. Other than that,
though, could work...

Anyone else interested in joining us? Mary, you're not too far away and
they do serve coffee, too, if you can join us...


#200 of 229 by mary on Thu Feb 12 19:53:49 2009:

Mary won't be a available until near the end of the month.  Just pick a 
date where you and Glenda can meet and let me know when that is.  If I'm 
in town and not working I'll join you.  Sounds like fun.


#201 of 229 by glenda on Thu Feb 26 22:31:29 2009:

Other than Dr appts on Mar 5, Mar 10, and Mar 27, I am free anytime.  I
do need to set up a lunch date with my Aunts sometime this month, but if
we set up something other then lunch time it won't be a problem.


#202 of 229 by denise on Mon Mar 16 14:21:14 2009:

For our tea gathering, would some afternoon in the next week or two
work? I have a 3:00 appt. tomorrow [Tuesday, 3/17] and am tied up til
noon on Wednesdays, but other days could probably work.


#203 of 229 by glenda on Mon Mar 16 16:16:00 2009:

STeve is having a surgical procedure on Wednesday (not Thursday as he
said in the mail to baff).  It is supposed to be a simple 90 min
procedure and he is planning on going to work on Thursday.  I would
rather keep it free just in case.  Friday would probably work or anytime
next except Friday the 27th, we both have Dr appts then.


#204 of 229 by denise on Tue Mar 17 22:21:39 2009:

Glenda, would you want to try for this Friday afternoon? Though we could
schedule something for next week. Monday afternoon next week I do my
volunteer work; Wed. morning I have an appt., Thursday or Friday late
afternoon I'll be tied up at my brother's [then at my niece's school
play]--but since he lives just a couple blocks away, we could still do
something a bit earlier in the afternoon...


#205 of 229 by denise on Tue Mar 17 22:21:54 2009:

Mary or anyone else game?


#206 of 229 by slynne on Tue Mar 17 23:10:56 2009:

I would but I most likely have plans on Friday evening and I might have
to take my dogs up to S. Lyon first. But if I take them on Thursday, I
might be free around 5ish. You were talking about meeting at the new
sweetwaters out by Plymouth and Green right?


#207 of 229 by mary on Tue Mar 17 23:16:12 2009:

I'm working Friday and next week is spattered with obligations. Just pick 
a day and time that works for you and Glenda and I'll fill in if possible. 


#208 of 229 by slynne on Wed Mar 18 14:34:19 2009:

Yeah. Just pick a time you two and I'll be there if I can. 


#209 of 229 by glenda on Thu Mar 19 04:18:11 2009:

STeve's procedure went well, other than communication on the medical
staff's part, but he is taking Thursday off.  He can't carry his
backpack for 48 hrs :-)

This Friday afternoon, early evening works for me, as does any day but
Friday next week.  Tuesday looks like it will work also.


#210 of 229 by denise on Thu Mar 19 22:02:28 2009:

Well, let's see who can show up tomorrow, late afternoon'ish.  Say, 4:30
or after? That way people that are working during the day [Lynn and
depending on what shift Mary's working] can come if they are able.  We
can talk then, too, about possible dates in the near future.

And yep, this is the new Sweetwaters on the northwest corner of Plymouth
Rd and Green Rd [a 1/2 mile or so west of 23] in the new complex that
also has Olga's Kitchen, a sushi place, an ink store, a bank, and I'm
not sure what all else [there are still a few empty places, too].

I'll probably bring something to read with me in case, with this being
short notice, nobody else can make it.


#211 of 229 by slynne on Fri Mar 20 02:02:34 2009:

I'll be there!


#212 of 229 by glenda on Fri Mar 20 04:35:50 2009:

I'll be there.


#213 of 229 by denise on Tue Mar 24 21:05:23 2009:

I had fun at Sweetwaters the other day. We'll have to do it again
sometime soon! 


#214 of 229 by denise on Sat Aug 21 15:47:20 2010:

I was walking at Briarwood earlier this week and stopped at Teavana and 
sampled some tea. One sample I really liked was a rooibos tea blend of 
blueberry and strawberry that was served chilled. I ended up buying some
 to bring home. Though to get the full flavor, it takes a longer brew
time  then the recommended 5-6 minutes.  I remember learning about
rooibos tea  from another tea shop; this tea shop said to brew while at
a low boil for  15-20 minutes, IIRC.


#215 of 229 by mary on Sat Aug 21 22:22:40 2010:

I'm certainly no tea expert having come to enjoy it just a couple of years 
ago, but I've already discovered different teas have different brewing 
needs.  White tea especially can't steep for more than 2 minutes or it 
starts to get a weird, bitter taste.  And I've yet to find a rooibos blend 
I didn't like.

Teavana samples can be dangerous - I've ending up spending too much on 
teas more than once. 


#216 of 229 by denise on Sun Aug 22 02:14:28 2010:

You're right, Mary; Teavana can be a dangerous place! It's definitely 
pricier than the tea shop I used to frequent in Durham. 

And yes, various teas have different brewing times as well as 
temperatures. By the time I figure out the strength and brewing time of 
this blend I brought, it's going to be gone! It's definitely different 
from what the directions say.  Still, it's a nice, light summery blend.

I do like flavored rooibos tea though not so crazy about the plain.


#217 of 229 by slynne on Sun Aug 22 04:42:56 2010:

I like Rooibos tea because it is favored by Mma Romotswe in The No. 1
Ladies Detective Agency series. ;)  


#218 of 229 by mary on Sun Aug 22 12:11:30 2010:

Sounds like a good reason to me. I know I like Newman's Sockarooni 
Spaghetti Sauce because of his blue eyes. ;-)


#219 of 229 by denise on Sun Aug 22 13:59:56 2010:

I read the Ladies Detective series... :-)


#220 of 229 by slynne on Mon Aug 23 19:45:33 2010:

resp:218 I do that all of the time. I have liked eating oatmeal since I
was child because it's fun to pretend it is the gruel served at the
Lowood School in Jane Eyre. Of course Paul Newman's eyes could sell just
about anything. :) 

resp:219 Whenever she talks about drinking red bush tea, she is talking
about rooibos tea. I always found the little arguments between her and
Mma Makutsi about regular tea vs black tea to be very amusing. 


#221 of 229 by denise on Mon Aug 23 20:54:55 2010:

I wonder if there are any new books out in the series that I haven't
read  yet.  And yep, red bush tea is the same as rooibos tea. :-)


#222 of 229 by slynne on Mon Aug 23 21:42:24 2010:

McCall Smith seems to put one out every spring. I am actually a couple
behind and have not yet read the two most recent installments:

Tea Time for the Traditionally Built  
The Double Comfort Safari Club

I might have to see if the library has either one available. 


#223 of 229 by denise on Tue Aug 24 14:24:25 2010:

There was one season on TV based on the first few books of this series.
If  you missed it, then check it out from Netflix. :-)  


#224 of 229 by slynne on Tue Aug 24 16:50:53 2010:

I've just finished watching it. I thought that HBO did a nice job
capturing the spirit of the books. I liked that they filmed it in
Gaborone too. 


#225 of 229 by tod on Wed Aug 25 16:49:24 2010:

I was in Hyde Park a few weeks ago.  The temptation to have tea at the
Orangery on the Kensington Palace patio overcame us.  That was, until we
saw this supposedly posh lil scam's layout.  What an overpriced joke.
Tell you what...just buy some black tea across the street from London Tower
and take it home.


#226 of 229 by slynne on Wed Aug 25 21:42:35 2010:

I am sure there are plenty of reasonably priced tea shops in London
though. 


#227 of 229 by tod on Wed Aug 25 22:43:30 2010:

We mostly saw Pakistani and Italian restaurants.


#228 of 229 by dtk on Wed Dec 25 20:28:45 2013:

It is hard to beat Irish Breakfast (a black tea, pekoe cut, with a large,
malty, complex flavor, and decent caffiene content) brewed at 180F in a muslin
bag (yes, I can be anal about some foods). 




#229 of 229 by denise on Fri Jan 17 02:55:08 2014:

I like Irish Breakfast tea though it's been awhile since I've had any.
Though I had an English version the other day.


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