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Item 10: Opera discussion

Entered by krj on Mon Feb 10 21:56:18 1997:

47 new of 221 responses total.


#175 of 221 by mary on Sun Oct 22 16:41:06 2000:

Thanks, Ken.


#176 of 221 by mcnally on Wed Jan 31 04:54:25 2001:

  Ken & Leslie might enjoy an article from this week's Onion:
  "Finest Opera Singer of Her Generation Unknown By Her Generation"
  http://www.theonion.com/onion3703/opera_singer.html

  My favorite quote:

     Raised by symphony violinists Celeste and Antonio Coletti,
     young Alessandra grew up surrounded by opera and classical music.

     "My earliest memories are listening to Enrico Caruso 78s on my
     parents' Victrola," Coletti said. "When I was seven, they took me
     to see Renata Babek in 'La Gioconda.' What a thrill that was.
     I remember asking my mother why there were no other children in
     the audience. She told me they were all across town at Carnegie
     Hall watching Tchaikovsky's 'Queen Of Spades.'"


#177 of 221 by krj on Fri Mar 16 01:46:04 2001:

Coming up: a regional double helping of Jacques Offenbach.
The spring UM student production is "La Perichole," which opens March 22
at Lydia Mendelssohn Theatre.   And then in June, Michigan 
Opera Theatre offers "Tales of Hoffmann."


#178 of 221 by mcnally on Fri Mar 16 04:01:43 2001:

  I didn't expect to like "Tales of Hoffman" but I found it quite interesting.
  (when I saw it performed by Opera Grand Rapids a few years ago, that is..)


#179 of 221 by rcurl on Fri Mar 16 21:19:07 2001:

Why would you expect to not like "Tales of Hoffman"? 


#180 of 221 by mcnally on Sat Mar 17 00:40:01 2001:

  Because the only works I'd heard by Offenbach up to that time didn't 
  thrill me and because I read a poor summary of the libretto that made
  it sound like a sequence of unrelated vignettes.


#181 of 221 by rcurl on Sat Mar 17 07:42:35 2001:

It would be interesting to see (and hear) how that would be done. If
it has been, it would make a good "Opera Quiz" question - name the
opera that is a sequence of unrelated vignettes. Certainly, some
ballets are like that. 


#182 of 221 by mcnally on Sun Mar 18 02:07:13 2001:

  Well, to some extent "Tales From Hoffman" comes pretty close -- 
  it's made up of three stories which I presume were not written to
  be connected in any way, but in the process of adapting them to
  operatic form the librettist added a connecting framework which
  ties them together as elements of an outer story about the
  relationship between an artist and his muse.  


#183 of 221 by rcurl on Sun Mar 18 06:54:45 2001:

I don't see it that way. In the prologue, Hoffman is asked to tell about
the three love encounters of his life, which is what he does in the
succeeding three acts. This is a very common structure of both novels and
autobiographies. I certainly think that everything is tied together by the
protagonist, Hoffman. (The text, by the way, is of course not by
Offenbach, but by Jules Barbier, who was a very famous librettist.) 

There a other threads that tie the three main acts together. They all have
an antagonist - a "malignant influence" - Spalanzani in the first act, and
Dr. Miracle in the others. They all have "heroines" of great artistic
skill - a dancer, a coquette, and a singer. They all end with specific
disillusionments for Hoffman. 

AND...all that provides marvelous excuses for beautiful music and songs! 
Where's my recording.... 



#184 of 221 by dbratman on Sun Mar 18 07:31:38 2001:

A link formed of somebody telling some otherwise unrelated stories is a 
good way to ... um ... to link together some otherwise unrelated 
stories.  (And black is black, and white is white.)  It is indeed a 
very common strategy, but it doesn't make the stories any less 
unrelated.


#185 of 221 by md on Sun Mar 18 12:20:29 2001:

[Psst.  Just agree with him, David.]


#186 of 221 by rcurl on Sun Mar 18 23:41:48 2001:

(md is my Dr. MIracle.....)

Would you explain, please, David, how the stories are unrelated when they
all involve the same protagonist (Hoffman), the same antagonist (called
Spalazani or Dr. Miracle, both out to ruin Hoffman's fun), and the same
type of love objects, false, unobtainable, or fickle? The three acts are
practically the *same* story.



#187 of 221 by dbratman on Mon Mar 19 18:41:56 2001:

Why don't you ask Mike McNally that question, Rane?  He's the one who 
was talking about "The Tales of Hoffman".  I was making a general 
comment on the linking together of unrelated stories.


#188 of 221 by rcurl on Mon Mar 19 19:51:55 2001:

Sorry, I thought you were making an observation relevant to Tales of
Hoffman. What opera were you referring to?

mcnally?


#189 of 221 by mcnally on Mon Mar 19 22:23:39 2001:

  My understanding is that the libretto was adapted from several
  stories whose only original connection is that they were written by
  E.T.A. Hoffmann and feature the several common elements you mention.
  (I just noticed I've been leaving out an "n" for several responses now..)

  I haven't read the original stories, but I was under the impression
  that it is the invention of the librettist that Hoffman has replaced
  the original protagonists of the three stories chosen, as is the story
  of Hoffman's choice between his muse and the opera singer Stella.


#190 of 221 by orinoco on Tue Mar 20 00:46:40 2001:

(Looks like you had a relapse in the second paragraph, too.)


#191 of 221 by mcnally on Tue Mar 20 01:20:32 2001:

  errata:    n n n n n n n
  <please distribute as needed..>


#192 of 221 by rcurl on Tue Mar 20 02:48:03 2001:

McNally is correct in #189, that what Barbier did was make E T A Hoffmann
himself the 'hero' of adventures adapted from several separate stories
written by Hoffmann. I guess it is time for us all to read the original
tales to determine whether the commonalities between the middle acts in
Barbier libretto are also present in the original tales. Quite a few
anthologies of Hoffmann's "Weird Tales" have been published. Apparently he
was an early Kafka in writing bizarre tales. 



#193 of 221 by krj on Mon Mar 26 15:56:46 2001:

Sunday afternoon we saw UM School of Music's production of "La Perichole,"
by Jacques Offenbach, which I gather isn't performed often these days.
We really weren't sure why, since in both book and music it's easily
the equal of the Gilbert & Sullivan operettas, though "Perichole" 
has a sexual edge which the Victorian G&S audience would never have 
accepted.
 
The story is set in colonial Lima, Peru, though the conceit of the 
production designer was to turn Lima into a 1950's seaside resort.
La Perichole is an impoverished street singer who would like to marry
Paquillo, another singer, but they can't afford the money for a marriage
license.   While Perichole and Paquillo are separated by the machinations
of the plot, the Viceroy of Peru spies Perichole and decides to 
rescue her from hunger and install her in the palace as his new mistress.
Of course proprieties must be observed: no unmarried woman can live
in the palace.  So.... (and on and on and on...)
 
The music was lush and delightful throughout, and I think the score 
was better suited to the young student voices than many UM productions
have been.  
 
One thing which startled me was the age of the audience.  Almost 
everyone had white hair, and lots of the audience had mobility problems.
"Well, at least you only need a cane and not a wheelchair!" said 
one of our neighbors to another.  I don't know if this was because 
it was the Sunday matinee, or because it was Offenbach.  One elderly
gentleman seated behind us made a comment in the last act when 
The Old Prisoner appeared in the dungeon:  "Oh, he's a *great* character."
So he, at least, had seen this show before!


#194 of 221 by dbratman on Wed Mar 28 22:11:00 2001:

I saw "La Perichole" once.

Comparing your reactions to mine, I guess I have the gene for enjoying 
Gilbert & Sullivan, but not any other light opera.  I don't like "Die 
Fledermaus" or "The Merry Widow" either.


#195 of 221 by krj on Sun Jul 8 18:26:56 2001:

Wow, I never write reviews any more on stuff I have seen.  Sigh.
 
Upcoming: Friday, July 13:  the Arbor Opera Theater, a local company
which Leslie has been doing some singing with, performs two 45-minute
chamber operas:  Leonard Bernstein's "Trouble in Tahiti" and 
Gian Carlo Menotti's "The Telephone."  8 p.m., $10, at the Vitosha
bed & breakfast & arts center (the former Unitarian Church), 
1917 Washtenaw Avenue.

"Trouble in Tahiti" is about a crumbling marriage, in a setting using
lots of 1950s cultural idioms.  I saw a student production of it 
about a decade ago and it's a favorite work of mine.


#196 of 221 by krj on Sat Jul 14 00:17:29 2001:

The chamber opera presentation (resp:195) was cancelled.
Apologies if anyone showed up for it besides me.


#197 of 221 by arianna on Thu Jul 19 04:25:47 2001:

how was The Telephone?  (MEnotti's one of my favs.)


#198 of 221 by krj on Thu Jul 19 04:53:02 2001:

Haven't seen it; the performance I was going to see was cancelled.
Arbor Opera Theater are doing "The Telephone" and "Trouble In Tahiti"
Thursday-Sunday at the Ann Arbor Civic Theater on Washington St., 
which I think is the old Performance Network space.  I plan to 
see the presentation Thursday.


#199 of 221 by arianna on Thu Jul 19 06:11:25 2001:

which show is Leslie in?


#200 of 221 by krj on Thu Jul 19 15:53:05 2001:

Leslie is in neither of these shows; Leslie is coming to the end of a 
four week opera workshop in the Czech Republic, in the towns of 
Kromeriz and Karlovy Vary.


#201 of 221 by arianna on Sun Jul 22 04:35:23 2001:

it's nice to be an audience on occassion. (:


#202 of 221 by coyote on Mon Jul 23 03:39:41 2001:

I saw Arbor Opera Theater's production of these shows today at the old
Performance Network/new Civic Theater.  Both were highly enjoyable and
well-executed.  I'll plan to attend other Arbor Opera productions in the
future.


#203 of 221 by krj on Fri Nov 9 15:50:43 2001:

Forgot to put this in earlier.  The first performance of this show 
has already run.  This is the U.Michigan School of Music fall 
opera presentation.  I think it's an excellent modern opera, 
we saw it in Montreal about four years ago.
 
>Nov.
>8-11    Opera Theatre Department:  "The Consul" by Gian Carlo Menotti
>Thu-Sun Power Center for the Performing Arts
>        8:00 PM Thu-Sat/2:00 PM Sun.
>        Directed by Joshua Major.  Conducted by Kenneth Kiesler.
>        The Consul tells the tale of a family trying to flee
>        political tyranny in Eastern Europe. Sung
>        in  English. Tickets are available at the League Ticket
>        Office for $20 (center
>        orchestra/balcony), $15 (rear orchestra/ balcony); students
>        with proper ID can purchase
>        tickets for $7. For more information, call 764-2538.

Also running this weekend is UMS presenting Gluck's opera "Orfeo & Eurydice,"
with spectacular Polish contralto Ewa Podles singing Friday and Sunday 
performances. 


#204 of 221 by krj on Sun Nov 11 05:54:34 2001:

We saw the Saturday presentation of "The Consul."  This was Gian
Carlo Menotti's 1950 opera set in Eastern Europe in the 
early days of the cold war.  Overall this was 
a very good production from the UM School of Music.  The dream & 
hypnotism sequences still seem to have dated a bit for me, but 
those are in the book, not unique to this presentation, and we 
felt the final dream sequence was better in this production than 
in the one we saw in Montreal.  The main story is still pretty 
chilling and sad.
 
The set of the Consul's waiting room was monumental -- one of the
best sets I've seen in a UM opera.  Behind the desk of the Secretary,
the file drawers went up to the roof...


#205 of 221 by orinoco on Tue Nov 13 16:02:49 2001:

Some housemates of mine say that one and loved it.  I spent the weekend in
Pittsburgh and missed out.  Pity, really.  Menotti rocks my world.


#206 of 221 by katie on Thu Nov 15 18:39:44 2001:

Then you will be happy to know that Menotti, himself, (age 90!) will be
conducting 'Amahl and the Night Visitors' in Detroit next month. That is,
if you live around here. My friend's son will be be one of the two actors
portraying Amahl.


#207 of 221 by orinoco on Thu Nov 15 20:40:01 2001:

Oh wow.  Thanks for the tip.


#208 of 221 by flem on Mon Nov 19 03:35:41 2001:

I saw Ewa Podles in something else at Hill a year or two ago.  I think it was
the Messiah, but I coudl be wrong.  She was fantastic.  I was hoping to go
to O&E, but this work thing is really messing me up.  


#209 of 221 by krj on Fri Mar 22 05:54:28 2002:

OK, so it's taken me four months to say something about the UMS production
of Gluck's "Orpheus & Eurydice."  *sigh*.
 
Seeing this the same weekend as Menotti's "The Consul" was like 
bookending Western culture, both in theme and in operatic style.
Thematically, we leapt from Greek mythology to totalitarian horrors;
musically, Gluck is "The Great Reformer" of opera, who is considered to 
have stripped away all the aspects of opera which were only to showcase
the singers, to try to get to presenting drama, and of course 
Menotti represents almost-the-present-day.  Before the 20th century's
excavation of Monteverdi's operas, Gluck's works were the oldest ones
likely to be performed.
 
Gluck's drama seems kind of slow for contemporary sensibilities, which
may be why the dance company was included to perk up the visuals a bit.
I think it's an interesting approach and might be fun to apply to some
of the Haydn operas which are recorded for their musical beauty, but
rarely performed on stage.

Eva Podles sang Orpheus, and she's a favorite in our house, ever since
she won over the Ann Arbor audience when she filled in for Cecelia Bartoli
at Hill Auditorium.  Leslie said "she sings like a force of nature."
Gluck left one aria in the old florid style for Orpheus to sing, 
and it was delightful to hear Ms. Podles navigate all those ornaments.

I've forgotten the name of the Euridyce; we saw her two years ago 
as the daughter in Bolcom's "A View From The Bridge."  

OPERA NEWS gave this production a tremendously enthusiastic review 
and suggested that it should tour.  This was the first time that the 
University Musical Society had assembled its own opera production, 
rather than importing one, and we were quite pleased.  Having 
front-row seats was an extra treat.  


#210 of 221 by krj on Fri Mar 22 05:58:30 2002:

... and so much for advance warnings on local opera.  
The University of Michigan School of Music has already opened their 
spring opera, Rossini's "La Cenenterola," a character better known as
Cinderella.  At Lydia Mendellsohn Theater through Sunday, I think, 
check your favorite arts guide. 
 
Eskarina mentioned that MSU's music school is performing 
Offenbach's "Orpheus in the Underworld" this weekend.  I have NO 
details, try to contact the MSU music school if you are interested.
 
And, we completely missed the Comic Opera Guild's production of 
Mozart's "The Magic Flute," in part because Leslie doesn't like 
that opera much, and I only like the first act, before the heavy 
Masonic symbolism comes crashing down like a ton of bricks.


#211 of 221 by flem on Fri Mar 22 18:21:16 2002:

One of the evil stepsisters in Cenerentola (sp?) is the director of the
Arts Chorale, that I sing in.  I may or may not get to see it this weekend.  


#212 of 221 by dbratman on Tue Apr 2 00:30:10 2002:

The most enjoyable opera production I've seen in recent years was a 
Berkeley opera production of Rossini's L'italiana in Algeri, with an 
English-language script that updated the story more than slightly.

It was titled "The Riot Grrrl on Mars."  Freapin' wonderful.

(Hearing James Morris sing Horace Tabor in the San Francisco Opera 
production of Ballad of Baby Doe was pretty impressive, too.)


#213 of 221 by krj on Sat Sep 28 14:56:58 2002:

Upcoming opera events in the Ann Arbor area:
 
Michigan Opera Theater's production of Verdi's IL TROVATORE 
runs October 12-20 in Detroit, so now is the time to look into tickets 
if one is interested.   This is a major Verdi opera which we 
have never seen, so I'm looking forward to it.   Leslie tells me
the critical consensus is that the music is glorious but the 
drama is a bit of a mess.   I haven't got the rest of the fall 
MOT schedule handy.
 
Ann Arbor Symphony offers Bizet's CARMEN in a concert presentation
(no sets or staging) at the Michigan Theater; Saturday November 9.
CARMEN is possibly the most popular opera; one of my opera guidebooks
writes that if you don't like CARMEN, maybe you should give up on 
opera completely and move on to something else.    :)

I haven't got the dates, but the University of Michigan School of Music
fall production is Janacek's THE CUNNING LITTLE VIXEN.

And, TV ads report that Andrea Bocelli is singing at The Palace of 
Auburn Hills, that acoustic wonder.  :)


#214 of 221 by krj on Sun Sep 29 17:07:03 2002:

Toledo Opera has Verdi's LA TRAVIATA coming up the weekend of 
October 5, and MOT's second fall opera in Detroit is DON PASQUALE.


#215 of 221 by gelinas on Mon Oct 7 03:27:32 2002:

How bad *are* the acoustics in the Palace?  I've seen nought but the circus
there.


#216 of 221 by albaugh on Mon Oct 28 20:16:51 2002:

I saw the most amazing thing (to me) on cable TV Sunday morning:  On something
calling itself the ARTS channel, there was an item (each item lasting a few
minutes and having a musical piece accompanied by "something" visual) which
in the credits just said "animation" that I can best describe as "claymation".
This one happened to be from Rigoletto (Act I, "The affectionate (?) Duke,
abduction of Gilda").  The characters seemed to be singing in English.  Call
me a "hillbilly" :-) but I wouldn't mind actually possessing (or renting)
video tapes of such a rendering - the entertainment value was high, and I can
appreciate the music.

Thoughts?


#217 of 221 by dbratman on Tue Oct 29 00:02:25 2002:

There was a Claymation Christmas special some years ago that I remember 
fondly.  I liked their "We Three Kings" with the camels singing the 
chorus.


#218 of 221 by coyote on Sat Nov 2 21:36:32 2002:

re 216:
there's an entire video of little opera snippets set to animation (I think
it's mostly computer animation) call "Opera Imaginaire" or something like
that.  some of the animation has nothing to do with the music (a la fantasia)
and some of it is a little scene from the story.  it might be distributed by
miramax, but I don't remember.


#219 of 221 by krj on Tue Nov 12 02:04:37 2002:

I've been trying to come up with something to say about the Michigan 
Opera Theater production of Verdi's IL TROVATORE without much success.
Singing in the production was mostly good; acting was just fair.
Dramatically this opera is a bit of a mess, probably because 
the librettest died midway through, if I remember correctly.
 
TROVATORE is one of those improbable opera plots which everyone 
sneers at: two brothers separated at birth on opposite sides of 
a civil war, in love with the same woman.   It's interesting that
TROVATORE is lumped in with two of Verdi's strongest dramas,
RIGOLETTO and LA TRAVIATA, all three premiering in a brief
period in the early 1840s.
 
What makes TROVATORE worthwhile is the music, which is oriented towards 
choruses and ensemble pieces, which I love.  It's always great to 
catch up with one of the mid or late-period Verdi operas which I 
have not seen.
 
Before the show, the director of the company came out to make a pitch
for Proposal K, which was (in part) a plan to get the Detroit suburbs
to kick in some millage money for the Detroit cultural institutions.
"Arts, Parks and Kids" it was called.  I didn't hear if it passed.

-----

Coming up this weekend:  Janacek's THE CUNNING LITTLE VIXEN, presented 
by UM School of Music.  I think it's at Power Center, but I'm not sure.
Sung in Czech with projected English titles.


#220 of 221 by coyote on Tue Nov 12 17:32:28 2002:

(yes, it's at the power center)


#221 of 221 by krj on Sat Mar 6 04:16:37 2004:

UM School of Music's spring opera offering is DON GIOVANNI.  
Mozart's setting of the tale of Don Juan is one of the best and 
most popular operas, and it will be performed in the cozy confines 
of Lydia Mendelsohn Theater: it's almost guaranteed to sell out.    
Four performances, March 25-28.  Call the League Ticket Office at 
734-764-2538 or peek at http:///www.uprod.music.umich.edu


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