Grex Cinema Conference

Item 59: Grex goes to the movies-- the fall movie review item

Entered by richard on Thu Sep 25 02:40:29 2003:

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#42 of 225 by tod on Tue Oct 21 20:41:56 2003:

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#43 of 225 by edina on Tue Oct 21 20:44:07 2003:

I loved "Gosford Park".  If you need names for a few of those actors, they
would be Helen Mirren, Ryan Phillippe, Emily Watson, Stephen Fry, Michael
Gambon, Jeremy Northam, Clive Owen, Bill Ballaban, Alan Bates and a myriad
of other great Brit actors.


#44 of 225 by tod on Tue Oct 21 20:48:37 2003:

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#45 of 225 by mynxcat on Tue Oct 21 21:03:21 2003:

Intolerable Cruelty had a very rushed end, IMO


#46 of 225 by remmers on Tue Oct 21 22:43:52 2003:

"Intolerable Cruelty" is on my must-see-before-it-leaves-the-theaters
list.  It's a Coen Brothers movie, after all.

Clint Eastwood's "Mystic River" is a sombre tragedy, a beautifully
made film with superb acting from an ensemble all-star cast.  Sean
Penn and Tim Robbins especially.  The story gets its hooks into you
and never lets go.  Highly recommended.


#47 of 225 by wh on Wed Oct 22 03:39:54 2003:

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#48 of 225 by wh on Wed Oct 22 03:46:06 2003:

Saw The Legend of Suriyothai. It only plays one more night, Thursday, 
at the Michigan Theater.

Went for the Thai scenery since I have worked with a few young Thai 
people in the last few years. Most of the the movie was filmed indoors. 
But good traditional Thai dress and in Thai with English subtitles.

A 16th century story. Court intrigue, assassination, and occasional 
regicide. So much killing that toward the end I gave up and didn't much 
care who died. An unsettled time in Siam's history with Burma 
threatening invasion.

The last third of the movie was war. Muskets, steel, and archery. I am 
not a good judge of war movies. I think the last one I liked was The 
Longest Day (1962). The Burmese army was pictured as equivalent to the 
evil Germans in English language war movies and as the evil Russians in 
German war movies. 

I liked the feminist strain, albeit it at the royal level only, woven 
throughout despite the traditional patriarchal times.


#49 of 225 by mary on Thu Oct 23 17:36:29 2003:

Bubba Ho-Tep is opening tomorrow, at The State, in Ann Arbor.  John 
and I are planning to go to the 7:15 show and have dinner, before, 
somewhere downtown.  That's tomorrow evening.

If anyone would like to join us that would be fun.  I'm thinking 
either Seva or Cottage Inn Cafe or that no-frills middle eastern 
place on William, Keebob Palace or something. Around 5:30?  Anyone 
interested?


#50 of 225 by scott on Thu Oct 23 17:45:41 2003:

Dammit, already doing stuff tomorrow.


#51 of 225 by remmers on Sat Oct 25 12:09:45 2003:

"Bubba Ho-Tep" did not disappoint.  The story is beyond far-fetched
of course.  Some very funny lines.  Bruce Campbell really gets into
his role as an elderly Elvis Presley, living in obscurity in a rest
home in east Texas and wallowing in self-pity until...  (See, the
guy who died back in 1977 was actually a Presley impersonator with
whom the real Elvis had switched roles.)


#52 of 225 by mary on Sat Oct 25 12:45:18 2003:

The first few lines spoken set the tone for all that follows.  It's
probably one of the most outrageously funny setups I've seen. 

Again, stay until the credits have finished.  There is more.


#53 of 225 by janc on Mon Oct 27 04:28:01 2003:

"Price of Milk" - This is a New Zealand fairy tale romance set on an
isolated dairy farm.  Lucinda and Rob are in love.  Rob has 117 cows
and an agoraphobic dog.  Lucinda has a collection of baby shoes and
inexplicable doubts.  Does Rob really love her?  How can she test his
love?  By trading away all 117 cows to get back a blanket that was
stolen from her by a team of Maori golfers to keep their auntie warm,
of course.  Now she just has to win him back again.

The film is full of lots of bits of delightful weirdness.  The dog and
the bath on the hill and the upsidedown pickup trucks and the Hindi
wedding dress are worth the price of admission.  Which is all great,
but the characters don't entirely make emotional sense, which kind of
makes the whole thing feel a bit pointless.

Apparantly the director/writer made up the film day by day as he was
filming it.


#54 of 225 by mary on Mon Oct 27 11:26:19 2003:

It's now in my queue.  Thanks!


#55 of 225 by aruba on Mon Oct 27 15:22:02 2003:

We went to see another New Zealand film the other night, "Whale Rider",
which is now at the Village Theater.  It was fabulous - best movie I've seen
all year.


#56 of 225 by mcnally on Mon Oct 27 18:39:53 2003:

  I should've caught "Whale Rider" when it came through Ketchikan a 
  week or two ago.  We've got pretty limited choice in new movies so
  it's worth going when something decent comes to town.


#57 of 225 by tod on Mon Oct 27 18:48:01 2003:

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#58 of 225 by mcnally on Mon Oct 27 19:26:06 2003:

  Yeah..  I give the carvers in the carving shed out at Saxman major credit
  for their patience with the tourists.  I've stood and watched while groups
  of tourists shuffle through, every five minutes asking the same alarmingly
  stupid questions.  It would drive me mad by the time the first bus got out
  of the parking lot.


#59 of 225 by tod on Mon Oct 27 20:08:29 2003:

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#60 of 225 by mcnally on Mon Oct 27 23:38:05 2003:

  When they've got someone carving at the exhibition room in the Southeast
  Alaska Discovery Center they take that approach (though they're a little
  friendlier about it.)  When you enter they hand you a FAQ list and ask
  that you read it before asking the carvers any questions.


#61 of 225 by iandude on Wed Oct 29 02:33:24 2003:

i think the best movie i've ever seen was The Boondock Saints. I heard a new
one is coming out soon.


#62 of 225 by aruba on Wed Oct 29 02:35:11 2003:

I haven't heard of that one - what's it about?


#63 of 225 by richard on Wed Oct 29 06:47:12 2003:

"ELEPHANT"-- This is the powerful new movie by Gus Van Sant (director 
of Good Will Hunting, Drugstore Cowboy, My Own Private Idaho .etc)  The 
movie is essentially the film version of the Columbine tragedy.  The 
high school in Colorado where two alienated students showed up on 
campus one and and shot up the school.  The movie covers in detail the 
two hours or so leading up to the events, and the events themselves.  
Since you see all these innocent kids, and you know what is going to 
happen, the tension builds and it is quite intense.  Van Sant didn't 
use trained actors, but unknown real high school kids to make the movie 
as real as possible.  This movie is intense, disturbing and real.  So 
real that I think I'd find it difficult to sit through twice.  It won 
the grand prize at Cannes and is a well made movie that will have you 
thinking about it for some time.  "Elephant" is highly recommended.


#64 of 225 by bhelliom on Wed Oct 29 14:49:02 2003:

resp:62  Is that in response to The Boondocks Saints sequel?


#65 of 225 by krj on Wed Oct 29 20:20:41 2003:

Ridley Scott's slightly revised version of ALIEN comes out this 
weekend.  I expect its theatrical run to be very short, as reissue
runs generally are.


#66 of 225 by glenda on Wed Oct 29 20:32:15 2003:

I somehow don't think that adding 50-60 minutes to the running time is
"slightly" revised.  ;-)  STeve and the kids are looking forward to it.  I
am looking forward to the quiet, alone time them going to see it will give
me (provided they go together rather than at different times).


#67 of 225 by edina on Wed Oct 29 21:26:42 2003:

I'd insist on father/child parenting time.


#68 of 225 by scott on Thu Oct 30 02:29:37 2003:

"Bubba Ho-Tep".  Brilliant!  Scary, too.  The only thing that bugged me was
the score by Brian Tyler; a little too similar to the score he did for "Six
String Samurai" (a fair amount of stuff aside from the Red Elvises songs)


#69 of 225 by richard on Thu Oct 30 03:52:24 2003:

Alien is one of those movies that SHOULD be seen on the big screen....I
remember seeing it for the first time during its original release...REALLY
scary...I will definitely see the re-release


#70 of 225 by krj on Thu Oct 30 20:45:40 2003:

Glenda in resp:66 -- where did you hear about adding nearly an hour 
to the revised ALIEN?  The review I saw indicated that the major addition
is one key scene near the end -- a scene whose existance was generally 
known about for years -- and a few tweaks and trims here and there.


#71 of 225 by glenda on Fri Oct 31 01:07:10 2003:

There is a re-release of a movie coming out very soon that STeve is waiting
to see.  He told me about an added hour.  Maybe it isn't Alien, I just got
things mixed up.  But the only movie I can remember him saying he is waiting
for is Alien.

And maybe shoveling all this computer science and math stuff into my poor
little brain is making it go over the edge and mis-remember things all
together.


#72 of 225 by krj on Sat Nov 1 15:33:55 2003:

Alas, it appears that the ALIEN reissue is only with a limited number
of prints, so who knows when one of the prints will wander by Ann Arbor?
Not this week.


#73 of 225 by jep on Mon Nov 3 01:02:34 2003:

My son and I went to see "Brother Bear" yesterday.  It was pretty 
good.  Three Inuit (Eskimo) brothers, and a side story of two very 
funny moose who were the characters Bob and Doug McKenzie.  John liked 
it a lot.  We will probably see it again.


#74 of 225 by richard on Mon Nov 10 02:06:44 2003:

28 DAYS LATER-- rented this last week.  I enjoyed it, although the people
I was watching it with didn't like it at all.  It is a post-apocalyptic
tale in a sense, of a world ravaged by a highly contagious virus and the
few healthy people left trying to survive.  If you get the virus, you go
mad and turn into a zombie.  Obviously the director and writers were fans
of George Romero's "Dead" series (Night of the Living Dead, Dawn of the
Dead) I found the movie well made, well acted and enjoyable, although the
writing stretched things at times.  It was filmed and set in Britain, no
doubt playing off mad cow disease hysteria and speculating on what the
world might be like if a really deadly virus ravaged it.


#75 of 225 by rcurl on Mon Nov 10 02:34:30 2003:

NOWHERE IN AFRICA - rented this yesterday. I had read some reviews but
must not have paid too much attention - and somehow it slipped past us
when it was in the theaters. I didn't recall it was in three languages and
premised in the Holocaust. It was quite absorbing and well acted. 



#76 of 225 by mooncat on Fri Nov 14 04:10:55 2003:

re #19 (okay so it's been awhile) and the Italian Job, all's I have to 
saw is that I agree. And in that perfect world will you share Jason 
with me? ;)


#77 of 225 by mooncat on Fri Nov 14 04:12:06 2003:

(er, all's I have to say is that I agree- both about the mini-cooper 
and Jason.)


#78 of 225 by pvn on Fri Nov 14 07:58:11 2003:

_Matrix - Revolution_  - while they were at it why not throw in the
kitchen sink?


#79 of 225 by scott on Fri Nov 14 13:37:46 2003:

They're saving some for the next sequel.


#80 of 225 by edina on Fri Nov 14 17:44:25 2003:

Re 76 and 77 - I'll take MWF and half of Saturday, you can have the rest. 
Work for you?


#81 of 225 by katie on Fri Nov 14 18:23:55 2003:


If you liked the song "Radio" during the credits of the film "Radio,"
come out to Green Wood tonight to see/hear Chuck Brodsky in concert.
He also has a quick cameo during the credits, when the actors onscreen
are replaced by the real folks.  The film was based on the song, I
believe. The song is from one of his earlier albums.


#82 of 225 by mooncat on Mon Nov 17 05:04:09 2003:

re #80- Sure, sounds good. :)


#83 of 225 by mynxcat on Mon Nov 17 16:01:36 2003:

We saw Love, Actually last night. If there is one absolutely fluffy, 
feel good, "chick flick" you see this season, make it "Love, 
Actually". Touching on all aspects of love (new love, old love, love 
between siblings, love between old rock and roll artist and manager, 
unrequited love, betrayal...), it leaves with you with a nice warm, 
fuzzy feeling all over. Watch this with someone you love


#84 of 225 by twenex on Mon Nov 17 17:59:05 2003:

Glad to see at least one american enjoyed it. apparently it hasn't gone down
well ith U.S. critics. I think the chances of it not going down well with
British critics are pretty slim; British films are so few and far between we
need to encourage them as much as we can, whether the individual film is
actually any good or not.


#85 of 225 by glenda on Mon Nov 17 18:07:09 2003:

Got "The Guru" from netflix this weekend.  I found it amusing, good fun. 
Staci watched it and was using head phones.  Every once in a while she would
break out in the giggles.  A fun break from the hum-drums of studying.


#86 of 225 by mynxcat on Mon Nov 17 19:12:06 2003:

Jeff, I'm nmot American, I'm Indian. FWIW, the theater was nearly 
full, and most people seemed highly appreciative of the movie, (and 
most of them were American :) )

What other British movies are there out there? Bend it like Bekham was 
definitely well received here. Was 4 Weddings and a Funeral British or 
American? I loved Full Monty. Calendar Girls looks to be the female 
version of Full Monty. 

I was pretty disappointed with The Guru. Heather Graham in a sari was 
just too weird. Though she did seem to get the dance moves down really 
nicely :)


#87 of 225 by twenex on Mon Nov 17 19:35:16 2003:

Oh, yes, you've a good pint there about bering Indian.
Well, you're over that side of the Pond and seem to like
it, so that must count for something.

Most of the Brit films I know of that you haven't
mentioned are old. You might try the Ealing comedies if
you can get them on video or DVD. Other than that there'sw
really only Johnny English, Lawrence of Arabia, and a film
about a Geordie ~(Newcastle native) boy who becomes
aballet dancer - forget the name. Oh, and East is East
about an Indian family in Birmingham? which people might
like. I don't much fancy Caldendar Girls myself.


#88 of 225 by mynxcat on Mon Nov 17 20:00:38 2003:

I've seen East is East. It was good, but depressing.

Billy Eliott was the boy who turned ballet dancer, wasn't it? I liked 
that movie. Then of course there are the Merchant Ivory productions 
which are always good. 



#89 of 225 by twenex on Mon Nov 17 21:38:26 2003:

Billy Elliott, that's right. East is East is depressing?
oh dear. I'd heard it was funny.


#90 of 225 by edina on Mon Nov 17 21:45:41 2003:

Billy Elliot and East is East were depressing.


#91 of 225 by mynxcat on Mon Nov 17 21:53:47 2003:

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#92 of 225 by mynxcat on Mon Nov 17 21:54:41 2003:

I was told East is East was funny, and since I'm always interested in 
movies with south-asian families settled in a Westernised country, I 
watched it. It started out being funny, with all those situations with 
a south-asian coping with British life, but it ended depressing, when 
you realise what the kids go through. Definitely depressing. 

I really want to watch American Desi. 




#93 of 225 by krj on Mon Nov 17 22:04:32 2003:

I just found out that I missed the rebroadcast of "Saga of Mulan," 
a 1994 Chinese film presenting a Chinese Opera version of the same
story as the Disney animated film.  I did get to see it this spring,
but the videotape had a little accident.  It's not commercially
available, last I saw.  Whine.


#94 of 225 by twenex on Mon Nov 17 22:50:15 2003:

Bummer, x2. Maybe if Nixon is still alive you could ask
him to go get it for you...


#95 of 225 by scott on Wed Nov 19 03:58:04 2003:

Finally got around to seeing "Pirates of the Carribean" at the discount
theatre.  It was amusing... well, that was about it.  Johnny Depp was pretty
funny, anyway.


#96 of 225 by gull on Wed Nov 19 15:17:55 2003:

Yup, Johnny Depp made the movie enough fun to be worth it, for me. :>

I wasn't expecting a great plot from a movie named after a theme park ride.


#97 of 225 by twenex on Wed Nov 19 16:57:49 2003:

Actually, I really enjoyed POTC. Possibly because I was expecting it to be
a bit of a joke, but it wasn't.


#98 of 225 by anderyn on Wed Nov 19 18:24:33 2003:

I loved it. Am planning on putting it into the permanent film library. I even
loved Orlando Bloom's character quite a bit, though most think him too stodgy.


#99 of 225 by mynxcat on Wed Nov 19 18:27:07 2003:

Pirates of the Caribbean was the kind of movie I expected to hate. But 
I enjoyed it thoroughly. Thanks to Johnny Depp.


#100 of 225 by gull on Wed Nov 19 18:37:20 2003:

"But...why is the RUM gone?!"


#101 of 225 by mynxcat on Wed Nov 19 19:14:39 2003:

Haha.


#102 of 225 by richard on Wed Nov 26 03:11:37 2003:

"21 GRAMS"-- This is the first english language movie by famed Mexican 
director Alejandro Gonz lez I  rritu, and it blew me away.  I found the 
movie really moving on a number of different levels.  I don't want to 
give away too much of the story, because you really should experience 
what happens as it unfolds.  But basically it is the story of three 
individuals, each of whom has a past they have escaped from, whose 
lives are inextricably linked by an accident.  These are three people 
from different worlds, who should never meet or know each other.  But 
fate has different plans for them.  This is a movie about suffering and 
surviving, and living through pain, and redemption.

The three leads are played in great performances by Sean Penn, Benicio 
Del Toro and Naomi Watts.  Penn is the center of the movie and if 
anything he as good or better than he was in the recently 
released "Mystic River".  Del Toro (who won an Oscar for "Traffic") and 
Watts (who was terrific in "Mulhulland Drive") give the performances of 
their careers. 

The director, I  rritu, wants the emphasis to be more on character 
study than plot narrative, so he dispenses with the usual chronological 
storytelling, and leaps back and forth to present, past, and future 
events surrounding the incidents in question.  This is done with great 
effectiveness, I think, although if you don't like movies that mix up 
timelines, you might find the technique annoying.

The movie's title, "21 Grams" is how much weight the body is said to 
lose automatically at the time of death.  The difference between your 
body alive and your body dead moments later is 21 grams. Is that the 
weight of a soul?  Is that what you lose when you die?  Anyway, this 
was the best movie I've seen this year, although it is a very dark film 
and you want to be in the right mood when you see it.   ***** (five 
stars) 


#103 of 225 by rcurl on Wed Nov 26 05:52:52 2003:

The body can only lose weight if it loses real mass, by exhalation or
secretions. Therefore "21 grams" is some kind of metaphor. Does the movie
divulge the basis for the choice of exactly 21 grams? It sounds like
"numerology" (number magic), but that then means nothing as mass is
essentially continuous and the gram was defined by the French. 


#104 of 225 by richard on Wed Nov 26 07:59:25 2003:

well the movie specifically says that is what "21 grams" means.  When a person
dies, his heart stops beating, his blood stops flowing.  That is "kinetic
energy", energy of movement.  Once a body dies, no more body heat is created
and the theory is that there is an instant measurable loss of kinetic energy.
Somebody did a study indicating there is a loss of 20 calories of kinetic
energy at the moment of death.  Which in theory translates into a literal loss
of twenty grams of mass.  


#105 of 225 by bru on Wed Nov 26 13:47:10 2003:

Thats how much the human soul weighs.


#106 of 225 by gull on Wed Nov 26 14:43:27 2003:

I predict this item is about to devolve into yet another religious
argument. ;>


#107 of 225 by mynxcat on Wed Nov 26 15:10:09 2003:

I always thought it was 13 grams. 


#108 of 225 by rcurl on Wed Nov 26 15:23:22 2003:

Kinetic energy has no measurable mass until you approach the speed of
light. The relation would be e = mc^2. Likewise, "heat" has no measurable
mass. Put another way, the energy equivalent of 21 grams of mass is the
largest nuclear exposion you can imagine (somewhat like a star going
"nova"). 



#109 of 225 by twenex on Wed Nov 26 15:55:56 2003:

Re: #106: Praise the Scales!


#110 of 225 by bru on Wed Nov 26 16:37:42 2003:

rcurl testifies to the power of the human soul.


#111 of 225 by other on Wed Nov 26 18:20:50 2003:

bru testifies to the persistence of human defiance of cognition.


#112 of 225 by gregb on Wed Nov 26 18:53:15 2003:

A friend and I went to see the Loony Tunes movie.  It wasn't one I was 
planning on seeing, but my friend bought the ticket, so what the @#$%.  
Turned out I loved it.  Naturally, it had all the zaniness of the 
cartoons, but had a lot of puns and commercial references that make it 
really funny to me, like a Wal-Mart in the middle of the dessert.


#113 of 225 by albaugh on Wed Nov 26 19:38:50 2003:

Stumbled across a made-for-TV movie called "Skinwalkers" on PBS (Detroit
Channel 56).  It's a movie about [American] Indians with Indian actors
involving the Navajo Nation, set in Utah.  One of the lead male actors is Wes
Studi, whom you may recall from "Last of the Mohicans" and "Dances With
Wolves" (among others).  I have a "weakness" for "authentic" Native American
movies, and just settled into this one, without intending to.  More info can
be found at http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0312278/


#114 of 225 by mynxcat on Wed Nov 26 20:02:05 2003:

With all that discussion on the soul and stuff, I nearly posted that 
gregb had the wrong item :P


#115 of 225 by mcnally on Wed Nov 26 21:28:20 2003:

  re #113:  PBS has been doing television adaptation of Tony Hillerman's
  Joe Leaphorn / Jim Chee mystery novels.  "Skinwalkers" is one of them.

  I don't know very much about the Native Americans of the southwest
  and have only read a couple of Hillerman's novels but he seems to get
  the atmosphere and settings right (based on my travels through the 
  Four Corners area) and an acquaintance who's married to a dentist
  formerly in the Indian Health Service and who has worked and lived
  around the Navajo reservation says that Hillerman's research is pretty
  good.


#116 of 225 by jaklumen on Thu Nov 27 02:25:01 2003:

I didn't see this myself-- was online, but Julie seemed to be enjoying 
it.


#117 of 225 by bru on Thu Nov 27 03:04:53 2003:

There are a couple of these movies out there.  "Coyote Waits" and
"Skinwwalkers".  I hope there are more of them.  I enjoyed them.


#118 of 225 by willcome on Thu Nov 27 07:35:08 2003:

She sells sea whores by the sea shore.


#119 of 225 by gull on Fri Nov 28 15:10:41 2003:

Re #112: Just out of curiousity, did you like Space Jam?  I hated it,
and I'm trying to figure out if the new Looney Tunes movie is along the
same lines.


#120 of 225 by tpryan on Fri Nov 28 16:07:56 2003:

        Is this Looney Tunes movie and Space Jam the only 2 live
action/cartoon mix movies since Roger Rabit, 15 years ago?


#121 of 225 by gull on Fri Nov 28 16:14:11 2003:

Monkeybone and Cool World are two others.  I can't remember if Cool World
came out before or after Roger Rabbit, though.


#122 of 225 by remmers on Fri Nov 28 21:41:27 2003:

Roger Rabbit was 1988, Cool World 1992.


#123 of 225 by bruin on Sat Nov 29 20:08:08 2003:

There was also a mixed animated/live action "Rocky and Bullwinkle" 
movie.


#124 of 225 by gregb on Mon Dec 1 15:38:10 2003:

Re. 119:  No relation.  The world of Loony Tunes is treated like that of 
Roger Rabit, in that "Toones" exist along side humans.  In Jam they were 
brought into the human world.


#125 of 225 by goose on Mon Dec 1 17:18:56 2003:

the Dangerous Lives Of Alter Boys has some great animation sequences...
oh, don't forget Beavis and Butthead Do America...;-)


#126 of 225 by gregb on Mon Dec 1 19:27:41 2003:

Did they mix live actors with animation?


#127 of 225 by flem on Mon Dec 1 20:58:58 2003:

Ah, yes, Beavis and Butthead.  My inner 12-year-old loved that movie.  :)


#128 of 225 by gull on Mon Dec 1 21:11:31 2003:

Mine too.  But I don't remember anything live-action in it.


#129 of 225 by richard on Wed Dec 3 03:45:47 2003:

MASTER AND COMMANDER: FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD-- This is a terrific sea
adventure movie based on the McManus books.  The ships and costumes of the
period, are re-produced in exacting detail.  The camera even rocks
slightly to mimick the way a ship rocks at sea.  Russell Crowe, among the
world's most charismatic actors, is perfectly cast as the "master and
commander" of the ship, to whom everyone else must swear their loyalty and
give their lives.  Paul Bettany, who played Crowe's imaginary best friend
in "A Beautiful Mind" co-stars as Crowe's real best friend, the
philosophical and humane ship's doctor.  They have a relationship not
unlike Kirk and McCoy on Star Trek.  This movie was well directed by Peter
Weir (director of The Truman Show and Witness and many other movies)  But
the best thing about this movie is the cinematography, the beautiful
scenery and realistic battle scenes between the two ships (the good guy
British Ship and the evil French ship they are chasing around the world)
This movie was a lot of fun (has a nice classical score too)


#130 of 225 by anderyn on Wed Dec 3 15:20:38 2003:

O'Brien books, richard. But otherwise, yeah, I loved this movie. Not a really
surprising plot, but what a wonderful view of the life and times of these two
men and the rest of the ship's company.


#131 of 225 by aruba on Wed Dec 3 20:51:47 2003:

Right - I enjoyed it too.  It wasn't very deep, but the production values
were first rate.


#132 of 225 by goose on Thu Dec 4 02:37:16 2003:

RE#128  -- I misunderstood the comment regarding live mixed with animation,
you are right there was no live sequences in B&B Do America....though they
did appear on Letterman to promote the movie...;-)


#133 of 225 by gregb on Thu Dec 4 17:56:03 2003:

I remember that.  Strangest interview I saw on Letterman.  Kind of a 
reverse Space Ghost CTC.


#134 of 225 by goose on Fri Dec 5 20:01:10 2003:

You're right, I never thought of it that way.


#135 of 225 by mary on Sat Dec 6 22:22:17 2003:

I've finally been catching up with what's in the theaters.

I loved "Love Actually". I really debated buying this ticket thinking it
was another chic-flick Hugh Grant vehicle.  I even asked the guy selling
tickets if he'd seen it.  He said his girlfriend insisted he come along
and he was quite surprise to have liked it a lot.  The cast includes
quite a few of my favorites and the writing was clever and honest enough
that I forgave its exaggerations.

"The Missing" is thin on plot, the character studies a little 
thicker, but that scenery!  Wow.  This movie stars New Mexico.

But my favorite of all this season is "Bad Santa".  Offensive
to the max.  I hope the fat boy wins an Oscar.  Not kidding.


#136 of 225 by mynxcat on Sun Dec 7 01:16:02 2003:

Love Actually was surprisingly very likeable.



#137 of 225 by remmers on Sun Dec 7 15:13:01 2003:

Re #135:  I enjoyed "Bad Santa" too and agree that the kid's
performance is of best-supporting-actor calibre.  Wouldn't be
surprised to see the Academy shun the film altogether though,
given the nature of material.  Hollywood's come a long way
since the squeaky-clean 1950s, but I'm not sure it's come
*that* far.


#138 of 225 by bru on Mon Dec 8 05:58:00 2003:

The Last Samurai

I liked it, even though I didn't want to go because I am boycotting Tom
Cruise.  

Very intelligently done.  It takes you to a time and place outside your
experience.  The star of this show to me is not Cruise, but rather Ken
Watanabe.  His Portrayal of Katumoto was magnificent.


#139 of 225 by mynxcat on Mon Dec 8 14:06:43 2003:

Way to boycott Tom Cruise. Go for his movie and then give credit to 
someone else :P


#140 of 225 by other on Mon Dec 8 15:46:35 2003:

I'm going to regret this, because it'll just look like I'm baiting 
bru, but I really am curious as to why the boycott of Tom Cruise.


#141 of 225 by mynxcat on Mon Dec 8 15:54:43 2003:

Scientology is what I assumed it was.


#142 of 225 by edina on Mon Dec 8 15:57:36 2003:

I saw "Love Actually" too . . .I really really liked it and my only gripe is
that I wasn't with my boyfriend when I saw it.  The scenes between Emma
Thompson and Alan Rickman were so amazingly done, and I loved the scenes with
Liam Neeson and his son.  Incredibly cast, intelligently done.  What was
implausible was forgiveable by the things that weren't implausible.  And it
was incredibly nice to see Hugh Grant shaking his ass.


#143 of 225 by mynxcat on Mon Dec 8 16:29:43 2003:

Yeah, I liked Hugh Grant in that sequence, though his whole love angle 
was totally implausible.

I like how they touched on all kinds of love, not just the "it all 
turned out right, so all is well" type.


#144 of 225 by jep on Mon Dec 8 16:42:55 2003:

I saw most of "Pirates of the Carribean" on DVD last night.  I got a 
late start on it and will have to finish it tonight.  I liked it pretty 
well -- there were a lot of obvious coincidences and wild circumstances 
so it felt to me like a comic book movie; I like comic book movies -- 
but will have to see the end to know if I really liked it.


#145 of 225 by gull on Mon Dec 8 16:47:23 2003:

Yeah, it's definately a comic book style comedy.


#146 of 225 by bru on Mon Dec 8 20:30:22 2003:

Tonm cruise mad a statement a while back that this country was not fit to
raise his children in, adn he would be sending them overseas to another
country for schooling.

If he cannot support our country, I do not need to support him.  But my wife
twisted my arm.


#147 of 225 by gull on Mon Dec 8 21:02:06 2003:

Hmm.  I dunno, right-wing types are always saying "if you don't like the
government's policies, leave."  Now you're annoyed that someone's
actually doing that? ;>


#148 of 225 by mynxcat on Mon Dec 8 21:05:15 2003:

So you boycott Tom coz he speaks the truth? 

I wouldn't say that this country is "not fit to raise children in", 
but there are better countries out there, when it comes to raising 
children.


#149 of 225 by tod on Mon Dec 8 21:15:46 2003:

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#150 of 225 by md on Mon Dec 8 23:32:04 2003:

"Swimming Pool" (A-) -- A slightly pretentious French production with 
a "Sixth Sense"-like twist at the end.  It's worth seeing mainly for 
the gorgeous French scenery and a gorgeous French actress named 
Ludivine Sagnier.  

(After traipsing around topless and humping any pair of pants that 
walks by in this movie, Mlle Sagnier went on to play the role of -- I 
kid you not -- Tinkerbell in the new live action remake of Peter Pan, 
which opens in a couple of weeks.  One of those twists of fate you just 
have to smile and shrug at.)


#151 of 225 by mary on Mon Dec 8 23:42:16 2003:

I left that movie wondering what it means when you're
more turned on by the villa than the steamy sex.



#152 of 225 by jmsaul on Tue Dec 9 01:23:46 2003:

This webpage may provide some insight: 
http://www.algonet.se/~giljotin/explan.html


#153 of 225 by md on Tue Dec 9 03:14:34 2003:

This one, courtesy of good old Altavista, might provide even more 
insight:

http://jpg.adult.pornparks.com/totty_net/ludivines/ludivine_sagnier001.j
pg

Now I've got to go find "Drops of Water on the Boiling Rocks."


#154 of 225 by md on Tue Dec 9 03:15:56 2003:

[Sorry, that link probably won't work unless you add "pg" to the end.]


#155 of 225 by bru on Tue Dec 9 04:42:25 2003:

I also thought The Last Samurai might have been a better movie if it had been
shown from the point of view of Katumoto instead of from Cruises character.


#156 of 225 by tod on Tue Dec 9 18:42:01 2003:

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#157 of 225 by bru on Tue Dec 9 19:52:31 2003:

The Japanese did indeed have guns early, but they caused so much devistation
among the Samurai class, that teh Shogun banned them.  I mean, we can't have
the peasant class being able to kill samurai with such ease, and from beyond
sword reach, mind you.

Guns were outlawed by Toyotomi Hideyoshi in 1588, for the general population.
They remained in the armory or relegated to shooting clubs.


#158 of 225 by tod on Tue Dec 9 21:48:47 2003:

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#159 of 225 by scott on Wed Dec 10 00:32:52 2003:

I've heard that the Cruise movie has ninjas... how much more silly could you
get?


#160 of 225 by richard on Thu Dec 11 20:26:33 2003:

Cruise doesn't have custody of his kids, Kidman does.  And she doesn't live
in australia now, she lives here in nyc, she and her kids share a
brownstone in Greenwich Village with Lenny Kravitz, her significant other.

Cruise and Kidman got divorced
because of religious reasons not geographic, he's a Scientologist and
she's a catholic and she wanted her kids raised catholic and he didn't.  


#161 of 225 by tod on Thu Dec 11 20:35:36 2003:

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#162 of 225 by bru on Fri Dec 12 05:49:25 2003:

his stae of existence doesn't matter.  His attitude does.


#163 of 225 by remmers on Fri Dec 12 15:10:34 2003:

Re #159:  Why silly to have ninjas?  Historically inaccurate?


#164 of 225 by edina on Fri Dec 12 15:12:08 2003:

Because Tom Cruise cares what you think.


#165 of 225 by scott on Fri Dec 12 15:29:07 2003:

Because ninjas never actually dressed like ninjas... they were undercover
types, so they'd dress exactly like whatever army/people they were going to
infiltrate.


#166 of 225 by gull on Fri Dec 12 15:31:32 2003:

Right now he's thinking, 'Damn, I'm not going to get that $8.50 from bru
next time.'

Although I can't say much, since I'm conducting a personal boycott of my
own against Symantec.


#167 of 225 by gelinas on Fri Dec 12 15:47:23 2003:

(Which is why the Japanese convention is to put them in Noh (I think it is)
costumes.)


#168 of 225 by anderyn on Fri Dec 12 17:00:28 2003:

The ninjas were ninjas. I didn't think of them as historically accurate (since
the movie itself was not 100% accurate -- though it was better than usual)
but as a plot element put in to cement the trust between Cruise's character
and Katsumoto. Nothing says bonding better than a fight with ninjas and saving
the other guy's life. 

I'm personally not anti-Cruise but I thought it would have been a better movie
had the producers been able to make it without the Western viewpoint
character. And of course Tom has the problem of always being Tom. He doesn't
disappear into his parts the way some other actors do. I believed, for
example, in Russell Crowe's portrayal of Jack Aubrey far more than I did in
Tom Cruise being someone called Nathan Algren. OTOH, Tom at least doesn't have
Costner disease -- aka "Look at me! Look at my butt!" -- he was *willing* to
try to be less center of attention than Costner.


#169 of 225 by tod on Fri Dec 12 17:42:16 2003:

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#170 of 225 by willcome on Fri Dec 12 19:11:01 2003:

Why do people have such a fetish with fictional movies being historcally
accurate?


#171 of 225 by bru on Fri Dec 12 19:17:29 2003:

because the movies are where we americans tend to learn our history.  I don't,
but I do not know why they cannot be historically accuratge and still tell
a good story other than the script writers are lazy.


#172 of 225 by tod on Fri Dec 12 19:24:10 2003:

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#173 of 225 by gull on Fri Dec 12 20:12:41 2003:

I've always wondered how much is edited out of Cops.

Like, one episode they stop a random black guy on a bike and he turns
out to have a warrant against him.  Was it luck, did they recognize him,
or did they spend all night stopping random black guys and we were only
shown the time it paid off?


#174 of 225 by tod on Fri Dec 12 20:40:18 2003:

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#175 of 225 by goose on Fri Dec 12 22:14:02 2003:

BWB is now a crime too?


#176 of 225 by tod on Fri Dec 12 23:38:00 2003:

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#177 of 225 by gelinas on Sun Dec 14 00:56:03 2003:

We saw "Master and Commander" this afternoon.  Bits and pieces borrowed from
various books, but I didn't care.  I hope they make a few more.


#178 of 225 by jmsaul on Sun Dec 14 15:01:41 2003:

I loved it.


#179 of 225 by twenex on Sun Dec 14 15:05:16 2003:

I thought it was very good.

Even if it hadn't been, nice to see a Hollywood film full of English
people, none of whom are bastards, even if themain character was
played by an Australian actor. Actually, I can't think of another
actor who would have been the right age, British, and right for the
part.

There's an American Civil War film of which I saw a promo where the
two protagonists are played by non-Americans, too. (Nicole Kidman and
Jude Law, in this case).


#180 of 225 by remmers on Sun Dec 14 17:16:10 2003:

The Civil War flick also stars Renee' Zellwiger (sp?), an American
who played a Brit not long ago.


#181 of 225 by edina on Mon Dec 15 15:21:43 2003:

I caught "The Last Samurai" this weekend.  I liked the story, I thought Tom
Cruise acted at the top of his abilities, but it was the character of
Katsumoto that really captured me.  I also had the same sort of affection for
the character of Katsumoto's son, Nobutada, that I have for Legolas . .


#182 of 225 by edina on Mon Dec 15 15:33:04 2003:

Oh - and I also rented "Possession" and "Lara Croft, Cradle of Life". 
"Possession" was good, but a bit slow moving - no I've not read the book .
. .I'm hoping it's better than the movie.  "Lara Croft" was ok.  I mean, it
gave us Chris Barrie and Gerard Butler, so that was cool, but other than that
. . . 


#183 of 225 by mynxcat on Mon Dec 15 18:26:56 2003:

Watched "Stuck On You" laast night. While it wasn't terrible, I wish 
I'd seen "Something's Gotta Give" instead. Matt Damon was a 
sweetheart. I've never been a big fan of Greg Kinnear, and this movie 
didn't change that. Whoever played May Fong was annoying as hell. And 
Eve whatshername who played April started out annoying, but I ended up 
liking her pretty much (Maybe it was coz of May being so annoying)


#184 of 225 by tod on Mon Dec 15 19:07:47 2003:

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#185 of 225 by edina on Mon Dec 15 21:40:13 2003:

Yeah, me too.


#186 of 225 by glenda on Tue Dec 16 03:46:44 2003:

Staci and I ate cookies and knitted while watching "The Wishing Tree"
yesterday.  We enjoyed all.  We are going to start our own tradition of Sunday
afternoon movie watching while knitting and eating junk food of some sort.


#187 of 225 by gull on Tue Dec 16 14:40:12 2003:

My mom always knits when she watches movies.  In fact, she refuses to
watch one unless she has something to do with her hands.


#188 of 225 by edina on Tue Dec 16 15:14:17 2003:

I use knitting as a way to keep me from eating, as I rarely want to touch what
I'm working on with gakked up hands.


#189 of 225 by mynxcat on Tue Dec 16 16:40:40 2003:

I used to knit while watching TV. Till I realised that I was watching 
6 hours of TV a day with the excuse that it wasn't a total waste of 
time since I was doing something productiove. On analysis, the 
argument didn't have much weight, especially in light of all the half-
finished projects lying around the house.


#190 of 225 by tod on Tue Dec 16 18:20:16 2003:

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#191 of 225 by glenda on Tue Dec 16 18:21:37 2003:

I have to have something to do with my hands when watching movies or TV.  I
don't watch much TV anymore (no time with schoolwork, and nothing all that
interesting on anyway).  I usually take knitting with me on the few occasions
that we actually go see a movie at a theater (I have been knitting for so long
that my fingers know what to do so I don't have to actually look at it). 
I also knit while reading, especially textbooks.  I don't have a problem
finishing knitted projects.  Staci and I are currently working on Christmas
presents.  This may mean that we actually go to the video store to rent DVDs
since my Netfilx account only allows 3 at a time with mailing back and forth
in between.  I think we are going to need more than that to finish up our
projects before Santa time.


#192 of 225 by tod on Tue Dec 16 18:23:05 2003:

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#193 of 225 by edina on Tue Dec 16 18:24:48 2003:

Oh - caught "Pirates of the Carribean" last night.  Good flick, but I was
ready for it to be over long before it was.


#194 of 225 by rcurl on Tue Dec 16 18:48:21 2003:

Our daughter crochets when watching TV -  no clicking of needles.


#195 of 225 by remmers on Tue Dec 16 19:02:50 2003:

Another commitment plus busy-ness at work kept me from seeing any of the
last half of "Angels in America" on HBO.  Saw the first half when it
debuted a week ago Sunday.  What an amazing movie!  Will see the rest
at my earliest opportunity.


#196 of 225 by slynne on Tue Dec 16 20:41:35 2003:

I liked the last episode best. It was awesome


#197 of 225 by scott on Wed Dec 17 00:38:42 2003:

Looks like I'm going to a midnight showing of "Return of the King" tonight.


#198 of 225 by twenex on Wed Dec 17 09:26:03 2003:

YAY
I have to wait till Friday at the latest.


#199 of 225 by scott on Wed Dec 17 16:06:33 2003:

Well, as before I can't say much good about how Peter Jackson interprets
characters.  But the scenery, the castles, and especially the beasties were
all really cool.


#200 of 225 by tpryan on Thu Dec 18 20:46:34 2003:

        Hey, you don't have to hide.  The grexiest of the grexers have
been known to watch TV, so you don't have to hide the habit so much.


#201 of 225 by mcnally on Thu Dec 18 22:43:40 2003:

  So who is the grexiest grexer to ever grex?


#202 of 225 by tod on Thu Dec 18 22:57:53 2003:

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#203 of 225 by jmsaul on Thu Dec 18 23:38:32 2003:

No way.  Maybe Valerie.


#204 of 225 by mcnally on Thu Dec 18 23:42:07 2003:

/emote tosses in a golden apple labelled "For the Grexiest."


#205 of 225 by mynxcat on Fri Dec 19 00:29:23 2003:

I'd go with Valerie


#206 of 225 by jmsaul on Fri Dec 19 03:32:37 2003:

Actually... I wouldn't.  Most Grexers are much, much mellower.  Marcus,
however, is too mellow for the award.  So is Jan.


#207 of 225 by mynxcat on Fri Dec 19 18:13:37 2003:

Mellow isn't the word I'd use though.

No, jan's not very Grexy. 


#208 of 225 by remmers on Fri Dec 19 19:20:26 2003:

Vote for me!  I am the Grexiest!!

(Actually, having thought about it for a bit, I've come to
the conclusion that Grexiness is an elusive concept, and there's
probably no such thing.  There's some *stereotypes* of what
Grexers are like (e.g. read m-net), but those aren't reality.)

(Also, the drift nazi in me impells me to remind y'all that
this is the movie item.)


#209 of 225 by tod on Fri Dec 19 23:42:50 2003:

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#210 of 225 by willcome on Sat Dec 20 22:34:03 2003:

It's funny  how remmers talks about how there is no "Grexy" opf a all in a
response which is distyinctly so.


#211 of 225 by md on Sat Dec 20 23:57:02 2003:

Yes, yes, "elusive concept" and "y'all" in the same response is sooooo 
Grexy!


#212 of 225 by twenex on Sun Dec 21 00:04:53 2003:

Objecting to "grexy" items on Grex is like objecting to apple pie in
the US.


#213 of 225 by willcome on Sun Dec 21 01:18:49 2003:

http://www.peoplecanchange.com/


#214 of 225 by goose on Sun Dec 21 05:41:48 2003:

http://www.ohnotheycant.com


#215 of 225 by albaugh on Sun Dec 21 05:45:03 2003:

http://www.theyespeciallywillnotchangejusttoaccommodatejerks.eat.me


#216 of 225 by mynxcat on Sun Dec 21 11:28:08 2003:

Watched "Something's Gotta GIve" last night. I liked the movie. It portrays
the relationship between Dianne Keaton's and Jack Nicholson's character very
poignantly. I especially loved the scene where Diane Keaton bawls her eyes
out while pounding out an award winning play was especially funny. Without
giving away too much of the plot, I would have preferred it if Diane Keaton
stayed wtih Keanu Reeves's character at the end of the movie. As my friend
pointed out, if you analysed what happened, the underlying message of the
movie seemed to be "Nice guys finish last". And it would have been interesting
to see the on-going trned of the older woman-younger guy concept in
relationships given it's belssing on celluloid.


#217 of 225 by richard on Tue Dec 23 03:17:34 2003:

#216...what, in a Jack Nicholson movie, somebody other than JACK getting the
girl?! surely you jest!  Besides if Keanu got Diane Keaton, and Jack got
Diane's daughter, that would be SO politically uncorrect!  :)  
.'


#218 of 225 by gelinas on Tue Dec 23 03:25:23 2003:

(Reminds me of Bob Hope in "The Princess and the Pirate.")


#219 of 225 by mynxcat on Tue Dec 23 17:53:22 2003:

Didn't say Jack should get the daughter. That would be icky. But I 
think the movie would have had better punch if Diane Keaton stayed on 
with hottie Keanu. (If I were presented with the situation, I'd be 
with the hottie doctor. Nothing like a doctor handy while you have a 
heart-attack while having sex)


#220 of 225 by remmers on Tue Dec 23 17:58:53 2003:

(For that purpose, I think that a paramedic might be more suitable.)


#221 of 225 by mynxcat on Tue Dec 23 19:10:13 2003:

Doctor's close enough ;)


#222 of 225 by jvmv on Mon Jun 21 06:02:14 2004:

     If you like movies  (not shit cinematographic),
     you should watch "Le fabuleux destin d'Amelie Poulain",
     literal english title is "Fabulous destiny of
     Amelie Poulain.
     The director is a very very great professional
     and this movie is excellent.



#223 of 225 by jvmv on Mon Jul 5 07:39:16 2004:



     I apologize all you for "s*** cinematographic".


#224 of 225 by tod on Tue Sep 14 19:02:30 2004:

Have you seen Dumb & Dumber?


#225 of 225 by tod on Tue Oct 17 03:04:48 2017:

I amright now


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