Grex Cinema Conference

Item 55: Movie Item

Entered by janc on Wed Mar 26 15:36:09 2003:

82 new of 269 responses total.


#188 of 269 by aruba on Mon May 26 05:30:40 2003:

Saw Matrix II tonight.  I haven't decided what I think yet about the
philosphy.  (I was suprised that the bits between the fights were mostly
people speaking philosophically - there was more of that than there was plot
developement.)  It did spawn a really interesting philosophical discussion
about choice, fate, destiny, and then the nature of the soul, among the
three of us who went.  (Afterward, we went to Grizzly Peak in search of one
of those "magic desserts". ;))


#189 of 269 by scott on Mon May 26 23:21:24 2003:

Saw "A Mighty Wind", Christopher Guest's latest mockumentary.  Pretty funny
spoof of the folk music scene, although not quite as funny as "Best in Show".
Maybe more accurate than funny.


#190 of 269 by mary on Mon May 26 23:24:45 2003:

It's going to be pretty hard to top "Best in Show".  But
I too enjoyed "Mighty Wind".  Although he totally missed
the activist component.  That could have been clever too.


#191 of 269 by mary on Mon May 26 23:26:22 2003:

"Bruce Almighty" was a whole lot of fun.  Morgan Freeman
made a great God.


#192 of 269 by jep on Tue May 27 00:09:35 2003:

I rented "Jaws" and "Patriot Games" on DVD.  I didn't get very far 
through "Patriot Games".  I just wasn't in the mood for it.

Jaws, though, I hadn't seen except on TV, and that when I was a 
teenager.  It wasn't keep-me-up terrifying.  It was gory in spots, and 
silly in spots, but I enjoyed watching it.

Some day there'll be a remake of it with modern graphics.  It could be 
an amazing Imax movie.


#193 of 269 by mooncat on Tue May 27 04:55:06 2003:

Saw Spy Kids II, was cute- not quite as cute as the first one, but 
close. Antonio Banderas actually does a really good job in these two 
movies, he has a nice sense of comic timing. These are definitely kids 
movies, but they're really cute.


#194 of 269 by edina on Tue May 27 15:25:03 2003:

I love those movies!!  I think they are great.  Well cast, well acted, fun
effects.  And I'll see anything wiht Alan Cumming.


#195 of 269 by mooncat on Wed May 28 21:04:47 2003:

Tee hee, he is fun isn't he? I had no idea he would be in the second 
one, but the way they brought him in made perfect sense. I did love all 
the gadgets, I gotta admit. :)


#196 of 269 by gregb on Thu May 29 14:28:08 2003:

Re. 181, 182:  My opinion is that I'm there to see a flick, not to be 
distracted by people flapping their lips.  If you need to speak to 
whomever your with, then wisper.

On a related note:  I love the commercial for M&Ms where this guy is 
constantly making comments in a theater and people are complaining and 
throwing popcorn at his head.  Finally, someone throws the big, yellow 
M&M and knocks him out of his seat.  I cheered!


#197 of 269 by edina on Thu May 29 14:31:17 2003:

My big gripe is when people take their babies to the movies.  They can never
keep them quiet and it's annoying.


#198 of 269 by tod on Thu May 29 16:09:52 2003:

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#199 of 269 by jazz on Thu May 29 16:16:24 2003:

        People who try to hold a cell phone conversation in a theatre.


#200 of 269 by slynne on Thu May 29 16:30:44 2003:

People who are too stupid to understand the movie so they keep asking 
their companions to explain what is going on. Actually, any prolonged 
conversation during movies bugs me. I can handle a stray comment here 
and there. 



#201 of 269 by gull on Thu May 29 17:10:31 2003:

Comments in public theaters just annoy me.  Commenting on a movie in my
living room while watching it with a friend can be fun, though, if it's
with someone with a sharp sense of humor.


#202 of 269 by gregb on Thu May 29 17:38:57 2003:

When I go to the movies, I try to get a seat with no one in front or 
behind me.  Fairly easy to do during matinaes, impossible in prime-time.


#203 of 269 by krj on Thu May 29 20:16:36 2003:

Try catching the movies late in their run.  


#204 of 269 by slynne on Thu May 29 20:57:09 2003:

Yes. I often like to do that. The disadvantage of doing that with a 
popular movie though is that people will talk about it and will give 
away the surprise endings!


#205 of 269 by jaklumen on Thu May 29 23:11:29 2003:

resp:197  I'm sorry.  The last time, it wasn't so much the noise, it 
was that she wanted to crawl all over the theater.  I genuinely hope 
we didn't ruin it for anyone; we really didn't have a baby sitter.  
The theater was fairly empty, thankfully, and the people she decided 
to greet in the top row did smile.


#206 of 269 by pvn on Fri May 30 08:15:24 2003:

You all are so anti-social.  One of the fun things about attending
movies in the south side of chicago is the screeners - those who talk to
the movie.  If you don't like it, buy the damn DVD and watch it at home
by yourself.


#207 of 269 by remmers on Fri May 30 11:43:05 2003:

Yuck.


#208 of 269 by gregb on Fri May 30 12:56:17 2003:

#203:  That's my std. MO.  I'll catch most movies when they hit the 
dollar theater, but that's just to save seven bucks.  I still have to 
work my seating strategy.  Apparently, there's a lot of folks who don't 
care to spend big bucks to see a flick--not to mention the cost of 
snacks and such.

#206:  The South Side, eh?  Well, that explains a lot. B-)


#209 of 269 by slynne on Fri May 30 13:10:39 2003:

Talking *TO* the movie is different from talking to the person sitting 
next to you. There are some movies that are improved by audience 
participation but most are not. Luckily for me, the group norm in the 
community where I live suits me. I hardly ever see anyone bring their 
kids to the theater, no one kicks my seat, usually there isnt a lot of 
talking, etc.


#210 of 269 by edina on Fri May 30 14:27:21 2003:

Re 206  Number one, I'm not anti-social.  Number two, I don't live on the
Sough Side of Chicago - nor do I want to - but thanks for asking.  Number 3
- please excuse me if the $8-10 I'm shelling out just to see the movie makes
me want to actually watch it.


#211 of 269 by jazz on Fri May 30 14:40:18 2003:

        Beady has this thing where everything relates back to the south side
and whatshername.  Somehow.  Even if it's taking place in Kuala Lumpur with
a guy named "Chuck".


#212 of 269 by janc on Fri May 30 14:41:19 2003:

A certain amount of audience noise is fine with me.  I remember seeing
"Beverly Hills Cop" while sitting next to a black women who kept repeating
"he gonna *fuck* him up!" at appropriate points through the whole movie.
I didn't know her, but she was obviously loving the movie, and I thought
that it actually added substantially to my appreciation of the movie.  I
actually like getting some sense of how other people are responding to the
film.  Whoops, and screams and applause and non-cynical commentary (not
so much the "I'm going to prove how much smarter than the film makers I am"
kind) are all fine with me.


#213 of 269 by jazz on Fri May 30 14:44:14 2003:

        During the screening I saw of Resident Evil, we were treated to a
series of cynical comments from a thirtysomething man two rows up.  At first
I was annoyed, but I couldn't help laughing at his timing with "Dumb white
bitch gonna get her ass KILT!".  I think everyone else was in the same boat,
or, if they weren't, nobody spoke up.  


#214 of 269 by tod on Fri May 30 18:49:01 2003:

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#215 of 269 by jaklumen on Fri May 30 23:06:18 2003:

resp:208 oddly enough, we don't have a dollar/$2 dollar theater here 
anymore.


#216 of 269 by gregb on Sat May 31 05:10:24 2003:

Well, a friend and I finally saw Reloaded tonight.  I'd like to think 
my analysis hasn't been tainted by the msgs. here, but I'd have to 
agree with those that said the pacing was off.  The fight scenes were 
too long and in most cases, meaningless, except to show off martial 
arts moves and special effects.  I also agree with the comment that the 
dialog spent too much time in philisophical riddles.  In hindsight, I 
don't think it's worth the $8.50 ticket.  However, I do plan on adding 
it to my DVD collection when it comes out.

What I did like was seeing Zion and how it works.  And I thought the 
freeway scene was the best of the flashy stuff.  I actually jumped when 
that semi rushed into the screen.  When the movie was over, most of the 
audiance left;  I guess they didn't know about the trailer for 
Revolutions.  From what I saw, It looks to be more of the same.  If my 
friends go, I'll pay full price, otherwise, I'll wait for the DVD.

Summary:  Lots of flash, bu not much plot.


#217 of 269 by pvn on Sat May 31 07:22:04 2003:

re#214: same social dynamic I expect.  Is the same for church and
sporting events.  I personally enjoy the experience of others enjoying
the experience with me.  However, you won't see "screeners" at _Gosford
Park_ for example.


#218 of 269 by rcurl on Sat May 31 17:37:02 2003:

Watched Adaptations last night on VHS. How did they double Cage in the
scenes he was talking with "himself"? 


#219 of 269 by gregb on Sun Jun 1 17:01:49 2003:

Watchded Lilo and Stitch this morning.  Loved it.  What can I say, I'm 
a sucker for the "Ugly duckling" type animations.  The music--both the 
instrumental and the Elvis adaptations were quite good.


#220 of 269 by jazz on Sun Jun 1 17:40:28 2003:

        Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand the critical accolade for
either "Being John Malkovitch" or "Adaptions".  They're both billed as
hillarious, but I've yet to see anyone get more than a dry chuckle or two out
of either, and both seem to excel in revelling in ugliness and workmanlike
cinematography.  Both also attempt to tackle reasonably novel or deep ideas,
but fail to really follow up on any of the consequences or implications of
those ideas.


#221 of 269 by rcurl on Sun Jun 1 18:16:09 2003:

I largely agree with you, about Adaptations. I haven't seen "Being...".
Adaptations might (?) be a screenplay about itself, so  the deeper
ideas get lost in the conceit. 


#222 of 269 by slynne on Sun Jun 1 18:27:14 2003:

I loved both of them. There were parts in both where I laughed so hard 
tears were coming from my eyes...usually during the more absurd parts. 
But I think what really did it for the critics was that they were so 
original and different from other films. I think if one is a critic and 
sees thousands of films, it is more meaningful that the film is 
different. I think this is one reason why Memento got such critical 
acclaim and also why David Lynch movies are so popular with critics. 
And while different does not necessarily mean good (e.g. moulon rouge), 
it certainly counts for something.



#223 of 269 by rcurl on Sun Jun 1 18:34:39 2003:

Adaptations did lead to lots of discussion afterward - what it meant,
the actors, the tricks, what it meant....etc. I  like movies like
that. For example, I was pleased to figure out how the pieces fitted
together, like assembling a mental jigsaw. I would have liked to have
unwittingly learned more about orchids, though, not that her book was
strictly *about* orchids.


#224 of 269 by jep on Mon Jun 2 02:58:31 2003:

My son and I, my parents, and my nieces saw "Finding Nemo" last 
night.  It was glitzy, colorful, and funny in many places; repetitious 
and slow in others.

There were no great songs; in fact there were no feature-type songs at 
all.  I was disappointed about that.

My favorite Disney movies, in order, are probably The Aristocats, The 
Lion King, Toy Story, The Little Mermaid, and Monsters, Inc.  I've 
liked all of the Disney/Pixar movies and have been looking forward to 
this one for months.  They've concentrated on excellent stories up 
until now.  I thought they put more effort into glitz and less into 
keeping the story interesting this time.  Maybe I'll like it better 
the next time I see it.


#225 of 269 by pvn on Mon Jun 2 05:29:45 2003:

Watched _Dinner Rush_ on DVD tonight.  Just about the entire movie takes
place in a tony italian restaurant.  Sort of an Altman style thingy.
It is hard to mention any detail without spoilers so I'll just recommend
it highly.


#226 of 269 by gull on Mon Jun 2 13:10:36 2003:

I saw _Finding Nemo_ on Friday and I disagree with jep.  I thought it
was hilarious, and really enjoyed it.  The glitz didn't have any real
effect on me, because it wasn't very far in that I stopped thinking
about the fact that it was computer animated.  (They're getting pretty
good at this.  Every movie they've made has had successively fewer
distracting "that looked really fake" moments.)  Pixar hasn't made a
film so far that I haven't liked.

Of course, I've always disliked long musical numbers in movies, so
that's probably part of where we disagree.  Most of my favorite Disney
films are short on songs.  In fact, of the movies jep listed as
favorites, the only ones I've felt the urge to see again recently are
_Toy Story_ and _Monsters, Inc._.  _The Lion King_ just seems so
overblown and full of itself to me, now.


#227 of 269 by other on Mon Jun 2 14:16:25 2003:

Saw Adaptation (well, most of it) and Y Tu Mama Tambien last night.  I do not
get what all the fuss about Adaptation was for, and I was annoyed because I
think the video store censored their copy of Y Tu Mama Tambien.  They
definitiely bowdlerized the subtitles a bit, and probably cut a bunch of the
juicier footage.


#228 of 269 by oval on Mon Jun 2 14:35:21 2003:

...and there's some juicy ones.



#229 of 269 by jep on Mon Jun 2 20:06:16 2003:

I didn't dislike "Finding Nemo", but I didn't fall in love with it, 
either.


#230 of 269 by janc on Fri Jun 6 13:01:39 2003:

Valerie has been talking about taking the kids to see "Finding Nemo".  They've
never been to a real live movie theater before.  Most disney type movies are
a bit too scary for them, and the Pixar ones to date have been no exception
(eg, the scaring kids scenes in Monsters Inc, the neighbor kid's mangled toys
in Toy Story, etc).  I was wondering who Nemo rated on that scale.


#231 of 269 by gull on Fri Jun 6 13:47:16 2003:

There are a few scenes involving things with large teeth that might
frighten very young children, or give them nightmares.  There aren't
long periods of scary suspense, as I recall, though.


#232 of 269 by jep on Fri Jun 6 15:00:34 2003:

The sharks in "Finding Nemo" are members of a vegetarian support 
group.  "Fish are friends, not food".  They're mildly scary; there's 
also a scene about jellyfish which is mildly scary.  It's not as scary 
as "Monsters, Inc."  The scene to which you referred in "Toy Story" 
would probably not be scary at all to Arlo, and couldn't possibly be to 
Kendra, could it?  "Finding Nemo" is no more scary than "Toy Story".

Didn't you take them to "The Piglet Movie"?  That was as non-
threatening as any movie could be, I'd think.  


#233 of 269 by gull on Fri Jun 6 15:34:14 2003:

I'm thinking of the scene with the black dragon fish as the main scary
one, pesonally.


#234 of 269 by flem on Fri Jun 6 19:24:56 2003:

Vegetarian sharks?  hahahahaha.  I really hope that the irony was intentional.


#235 of 269 by krj on Fri Jun 6 21:29:07 2003:

Saturday is this year's silent movie with live orchestra accompaniment 
at the Michigan Theater in Ann Arbor.  The movie is "Pandora's Box,"
1929.  Louise Brooks is a German flapper whose sexuality destroys
all the men who fall for her: and then she meets Jack the Ripper.
(Don't know if we'll get to go, our schedule is kind of crowded...)


#236 of 269 by albaugh on Sat Jun 7 01:22:59 2003:

The main comment I have about Finding Nemo is that I'm totally amazed at the
computer graphics.  Constantly moving underwater ocean currents...  Etc.
See it just for that, even if you're a gr'up.  :-)


#237 of 269 by jaklumen on Sat Jun 7 05:15:25 2003:

Interestingly enough, "Finding Nemo" was compared to "Spirited Away" 
in some critique somewhere (MSNBC, perhaps).  Unfair and unflattering, 
but I mentioned it so I could reference this particular film.  I 
saw "Spirited Away" at a gaming convention-- most of it, anyway, and I 
thought it was one of the most fabulous animes I have seen.  It's 
subtitled, and not dubbed, which I think is a good thing.


#238 of 269 by gelinas on Sun Jun 8 03:52:58 2003:

The version of "Spirited Away" that I just watched was dubbed.  The dubbing
worked, as near as I could tell.  Good movie.


#239 of 269 by mynxcat on Tue Jun 10 00:45:01 2003:

Watched Vanilla Sky. What I want to know is why did he splice his life from
that particular point, why not from earlier when he met Sophia, and everything
was great and he hadn't had his accident yet


#240 of 269 by tod on Tue Jun 10 04:22:00 2003:

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#241 of 269 by jazz on Tue Jun 10 12:53:34 2003:

        He was just LION to himself.

        Remember, the sweet isn't as sweet without the sweet and sour sauce?


#242 of 269 by gregb on Tue Jun 10 17:21:36 2003:

Hey, Tim!  Puns!  Come and get'em!  B-)

Caught The Core at the dolar theater Saturday.  Kind of a cross 'tween 
Armagedden<sp> and Journey to the Center of the Earth.  Basically, 
another doomed Earth movie.  The Earth's core has stopped spinning and 
a group is sent waaaaaaaay down under to "jump-start" it.  Those into 
Earth science will have a field day ripping this one apart.

Nothong outstanding about this file, IMO.  Didn't recognize any of the 
actors, effects, while good, were std. for today's films, characters 
were two-dimensional...All-in-all, a pretty predictable flick.  
Certainly not worth $8.50, but good for a buck.


#243 of 269 by lynne on Tue Jun 10 21:53:00 2003:

re 242:  Those with a brain will have a field day ripping it apart, I should
think.


#244 of 269 by aruba on Wed Jun 11 01:18:40 2003:

It was fun though.  (But the very first thing the hero says in the movie is
wrong.)


#245 of 269 by scott on Sun Jun 15 13:32:04 2003:

Saw "The Matrix: Reloaded" yesterday.

Great visuals, but the rest was pretty weak.  Everything, every element, could
have been cut about 50% and it would have tightened things up a lot.  

Well, except for Agent Smith.  What a cool character...


#246 of 269 by aruba on Sun Jun 15 19:12:04 2003:

Saw Finding Nemo the other night.  It rocked.


#247 of 269 by senna on Mon Jun 16 03:01:22 2003:

Smith is quickly becoming one of my favorite villains.  It's only a slight
pity that Hugo Weaving's complete submersion in the character will result in
every viewing I have of any LOTR movie to echo of "You are a disease" quotes.


#248 of 269 by jaklumen on Mon Jun 16 08:02:55 2003:

resp:245  I saw it last Friday and I completely disagree with just 
about everything negatory anyone else has said, but then I'm a epic 
sci-fi/fantasy nut and I therefore don't put the expectations on it 
that others might.  Tighter editing?  Nope, sorry, I don't see it.  
Call me intensely visual; I was soaking up every minute of it?  It was 
just eye candy?  Hmmm, yes, I enjoy philosophical debate, but I see 
the Matrix as an epic work and so I expect a typical formula.  Of 
course I was ready for some more butt-kicking.  And actually, the 
discussion seemed deep enough to me-- it's all in how you look at it.  
It just reminds me of I time I watched "Farewell My Concubine" with a 
philosophy major and she said she didn't get it when it was over.  It 
made perfect sense to me.


#249 of 269 by oval on Mon Jun 16 11:30:17 2003:

i thought the last 20 minutes of the film could've sucked a little less.



#250 of 269 by jazz on Mon Jun 16 13:08:33 2003:

        The Matrix's formula for pseudo-deep conversations.

        Introduce a topic.
        Have some character bring the topic up to Neo.
        Neo looks confused (he does this well).
        Neo asks a question about what he's going to do, or should do.
        Character invalidates Neo's question, by saying he's already done it
or should have figured it out before all this.

        Rinse.  Lather.  Repeat.


#251 of 269 by oval on Mon Jun 16 13:31:38 2003:

play air guitar and exclame "EXCELLENT!"



#252 of 269 by jazz on Mon Jun 16 14:02:56 2003:

        Bogus!


#253 of 269 by edina on Mon Jun 16 14:18:30 2003:

Sometimes, I just think that Sean Penn should have trademarked, "Dude."


#254 of 269 by gull on Mon Jun 16 16:04:08 2003:

Looking confused is pretty much Keanu Reeves's only talent as an actor.


#255 of 269 by tod on Mon Jun 16 17:19:24 2003:

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#256 of 269 by edina on Mon Jun 16 17:38:37 2003:

I have a good idea he's smarter than people think.  And lord knows, he's a
fine looking man.  I wouldn't kick him out of bed for eating crackers.  Heck,
I'd feed him crackers.


#257 of 269 by tod on Mon Jun 16 17:46:41 2003:

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#258 of 269 by rcurl on Mon Jun 16 18:02:26 2003:

Rented "Something about Schmidt". We thought it was a unique Nicholson
performance that could have been comedy but fortunately was not. I also
think a lot of viewers will fail to see themselves in some satire. Of
coure, being "retired", I found it raised some questions I have
confronted, since the "retired" to become partly invisible for some parts
of our culture, especially in business. 




#259 of 269 by jaklumen on Mon Jun 16 20:40:46 2003:

resp:250 true, just ignored it.  It's been done twice-- if they go for 
a hat trick, then I'll proclaim it a formula.


#260 of 269 by mary on Mon Jun 16 21:33:13 2003:

Re: ...about Schmidt  I thought the scene where he sees his
files, in the alley, in the rain, was nicely done.  


#261 of 269 by dcat on Tue Jun 17 00:45:05 2003:

saw 'nemo' w/ eskarina sunday.  movie's good, but i don't think it's something
i'd show to a small child.  there are a good number of fish-in-peril scenes
that were noticeably disturbing to the 5- or 6-year-old sitting behind us.

on the other hand, there were some great moments --- the surfer-dude turtles
were great, and the 'Psycho' violins at the dentist's niece's entrance were
hilarious.


#262 of 269 by gregb on Wed Jun 18 21:40:30 2003:

Saw "Agent: Cody Banks" at the dollar show last weekend.  While I 
wouldn't add it to my collection, it was alright.  Think of it as Kim 
Possible, only with a guy and live action.  I see Hilery Duff's keeping 
busy, what with her Lizzy movie and all.


#263 of 269 by jep on Sat Jun 21 21:47:36 2003:

I saw "Finding Nemo" again last night, with my 7 year old, at the 
cheap movie theater in Clinton.  ($2.50.)  Many times, if I see a 
movie or read a book a 2nd time, I'll have a much different impression 
of it, but I had the same impression of "Finding Nemo".  I'm a lot 
less impressed by it than others here.  It's pretty, it's nice, but 
it's not special.

Around here, we watch Disney movies occasionally, and had just 
watched "Toy Story 2" the night before.  I have Dory's memory, and so 
can't remember who it was, but *one* of the fish has the same eyes as 
Buzz Lightyear.

Also, I said earlier it's not scary.  It's scary at the beginning; 
there are several scenes that a young kid could find frightening.  
Sorry!


#264 of 269 by tod on Sat Jun 21 21:58:29 2003:

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#265 of 269 by jor on Sat Jun 21 22:21:43 2003:

        do go on


#266 of 269 by tod on Sat Jun 21 22:27:03 2003:

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#267 of 269 by bru on Sun Jun 22 14:52:52 2003:

watch the anime 

READ OR DIE

About a woman who loves books and works for a secret organization within the
library community that retrieves lost books, among other things.

Very interesting super power she has...She manipulates paper, making it into
whatever she needs from planes to swords.


#268 of 269 by gregb on Sun Jun 22 16:35:40 2003:

Saw Phone Booth at the Allen Pk. Theater.  At first, when I saw the 
trailer, I was skeptical.  After all, how much can you make of a movie 
that, for the most part, takes place at one location?  But then again, 
12 Angry Men took place in a single room, and it's become a classic.  
Also, it was only a buck so what the hey.

Anyway, I liked it.  It's all about this guy named Stuart (Colin 
Farrell) who uses the same phone booth everyday, but this time, someone 
calls him.  The caller seems to know everything about him;  Where he 
goes, who he sees, what he does...and he doesn't like his 
observations.  Stuart's been a bad boy and the caller (Keefer 
Sutherland) wants Stu to confess his sins...or else!  That worst part 
is that he can't tell anyone, else he or someone else, will be killed.

It's that "else" that makes the film interesting.  You never know what 
the caller's going to do.  One thing's for sure, he's not all talk.  
This is a short form for it's kind; only 81 minutes.  But since the 
plot's tightly focused on one thing, I guess you can't draw it out too 
much.


#269 of 269 by niceone on Mon Jun 23 15:03:24 2003:

hi
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