Grex Cinema Conference

Item 21: The Summer Movie Critique Item

Entered by omni on Wed Jun 24 03:59:22 1998:

241 new of 290 responses total.


#50 of 290 by hematite on Sat Jul 11 00:16:06 1998:

Or for those who have never seen it, such as myself, until last night. I
concur with iggy, it was a wonderful movie. I personally loved the 
costuming, but I'm a costume freak. I would have loved to be able to wear
what the 'belle's' did back then, so beatiful.(If uncomfortable..)


#51 of 290 by albaugh on Sun Jul 12 07:54:42 1998:

The "non-PC" parts?  Such as what?


#52 of 290 by beeswing on Sun Jul 12 22:24:16 1998:

Oh you know, things like when Scarlett slaps Prissy (a black slave), when
Scarlett's dad uses the word "darkies", that sorta thing.

What I found most disturbing is near the end, when Rhett is drunk and torments
Scarlett about her love for Ashley Wilkes. He threatens her with bodily harm,
then grabs her and carries her up the stairway to teach her a lesson... in
other words, now that he's threatened her, he's turned on and wants assert his
power by doing her, the fact that she is less than willing notwithstanding (she
struggles to get away, but in a weak-fisted manner, and then submits after all
of 15 seconds). The next morning she wakes up all happy and content after being
disciplined.

And the worst part? Most everyone in the theater cheered.


#53 of 290 by iggy on Sun Jul 12 23:48:52 1998:

not to mention the 'political meetings' were klan activities.


#54 of 290 by omni on Mon Jul 13 07:02:09 1998:

 being too PC can ruin anything. Please lighten up. After all, it's just a
movie.


#55 of 290 by wolfg676 on Mon Jul 13 10:24:05 1998:

Agreed. If you want to see a PC movie, go see almost anything Disney. Who,
I note, has yet to (re-)release "Song of the South" because the're afraid they
might offend somebody. Anyone see that joke commercial for Disney's "Titey"
on SNL?


#56 of 290 by scott on Mon Jul 13 11:06:29 1998:

Disney is PC?  You totally sure about that?  ;)


#57 of 290 by omni on Mon Jul 13 13:28:16 1998:

  I saw "Song of the South" as a child, and I even grew up with the Joel
Chandler Harris stories, and gee, I'm still a well balanced person. My views
are such that I think everyone has a right to a piece of the pie, no matter
where they come from beit Africa, or anywhere else.
  I learned some of my most basic life lessons from listening to Harris's Brer
Rabbit, especially "Brer rabbit and the Tar Baby" which has always been one
of my favorites. That one taught me that things sometimes *look* simple when
viewed on the surface, but are most always more complicated once you get into
them, and soon there is a point where you wish you had never saw it.

  I think disney lacks backbone, and courage. Because of PCism, we will lose
most if not all of our culture because someone somewhere might be offended.
Where does the book burning line form?


#58 of 290 by iggy on Mon Jul 13 15:43:03 1998:

in my review,i said it was a great movie, but the
non-pc parts made me uncomfortable.
so... now i'm being labeled as uptight and a
book burner because i'm uncomfortable with klan activities?
sheese!


#59 of 290 by rcurl on Mon Jul 13 17:08:50 1998:

Why does Disney (studios) need backbone or courage when they are raking
in so much money? Most backbone and courage appears from among those
that give less high regard to money.


#60 of 290 by beeswing on Mon Jul 13 17:50:28 1998:

Sometimes it's just real subtle. Like in _Beauty and the Beast_, in the
beginning there is a song about Belle, the main character. I don't remember the
exact lyrics, but it talks about how she is weird because she likes to read
books and is smart. Who's the main group to watch this film? Yep, young girls.
Hmph.


#61 of 290 by albaugh on Mon Jul 13 20:54:42 1998:

Nobody says you have to like or approve one person slapping another.  But
seeing it in a movie makes you uncomfortable?  Puh-leeze.  Label the character
violent or something, but deal with it.  And hearing 19th-century characters
using the term - gasp! - DARKIES - again, deal with it:  They did a lot worse
things in the 19th century.  But it's stupid to try and whitewash history by
making movies that PC-ize what really happened.


#62 of 290 by coyote on Mon Jul 13 20:59:22 1998:

Disney just re-released Peter Pan on video, I believe.  I wonder if they
managed to change that so it's PC or are leaving it "Why is the Red Man Red?"
and "Why does the Red Man say 'Ugh'"?


#63 of 290 by remmers on Mon Jul 13 21:22:34 1998:

Re #61: Saying that seeing something in a movie makes you
"uncomfortable" isn't the same thing as saying that you think
such things shouldn't be in films, or that you can't "deal
with it". Reminders of the less savory historical aspects
of our interracial and intergender make me "uncomfortable"
too, I suppose. But I think we need those reminders.

It's interesting to read these defensive over-reactions to
what was a pretty innocuous statement on iggy's part.


#64 of 290 by albaugh on Mon Jul 13 21:27:33 1998:

Hey, doncha know that it's PC to be anti-PC?!  ;-)


#65 of 290 by arianna on Mon Jul 13 21:36:44 1998:

I saw _Ghost In The Shell_ last night; great amime flick!  I'd read the
graphic novel before seeing the movie, which helped immensely in follwoing
the somewhat confusing storyline.  There were some good parts that got left
out of the movie, but there was some beatufiul eyecandy scenes in the movie
that the novel would've been hard-pressed to recreate.


#66 of 290 by karmic on Mon Jul 13 23:25:12 1998:

It's a GOOD sign if things like racism in movies make you "uncomfortable".
If you're perfectly comfortable with such things, worry. :)


#67 of 290 by other on Tue Jul 14 00:26:18 1998:

Why should we be uncomfortable with depictions of racism, sexism, brutality,
or other -isms, if they are being depicted as part of life in an era in which
they were part of life?  Should we go back through all our historical fiction
and update it to eliminate all such references which might offend someone?

Please!  If you are uncomfortable with it, that's your own issue.  It doesn't
mean you're a racist if you are comfortable with such depictions.


#68 of 290 by karmic on Tue Jul 14 03:14:58 1998:

I never said we should take things out of movies.  I think it's important
to see all that bad stuff, within its historical context.  What I'm saying
is, it's good to be uncomfortable with the -isms themselves.


#69 of 290 by krj on Tue Jul 14 04:05:57 1998:

Campus film groups live!  #1:
 
U. Mich's Center for Japanese Studies is hosting a Toshiro Mifune 
film festival.  Films will run Friday at 7 pm, Lorch Hall, beginning
Friday July 17 and continuing for six weeks.  Of particular 
interest to me is:
  RASHOMON: July 24:  1951 Academy Award, Best Foreign Film 
    -- one of those classics which I have never gotten around to seeing
  THE SEVEN SAMURAI:  July 31:  1954 Academy Award, Best Foreign Film
    -- an old favorite, one I want to drag my wife to see, though 
       she'll probably complain about how violent and macho it is.
       It's as long as "Titanic," so I hope Lorch Hall is air conditioned.
The Mifune film series is free.


#70 of 290 by coyote on Tue Jul 14 04:48:58 1998:

Subtitled?  Dubbed?


#71 of 290 by jep on Tue Jul 14 15:03:44 1998:

I saw the movie "Anaconda" on video over the weekend.  It featured flat, 
indistinguishable characters, a plot with little direction and less 
interest, and expensive looking but unrealistic graphics.  I don't 
watch a lot of movies -- this may have been the worst I've ever seen.  
My 7 year old said after the movie that anacondas are constrictors, not 
pit vipers, and that the mouth of the snake looked more like that of a 
pit viper.  He mistakes cynicism for sophistication at times, but I have 
no reason to doubt his analysis.

He and I saw "Godzilla" again at the local $2 theater.  I still liked 
it.  Especially compared to "Anaconda".  I explained to my kid that the 
female lead deserved to be allowed to outgrow her past, but after 
leaving the guy without talking to him, then stealing his top-secret 
tape and exploiting her relationship to advance her career, she did not 
deserve any affection or respect from him.  As I told him "I wouldn't 
have her on toast".  He just liked the giant lizard.  He said it walked 
like a komodo dragon while it was underground.

My wife and I watched "Volcano" on Sunday evening on video tape.  I 
thought this could have been a lot more spectacular of a movie.  Not a 
lot happened that I find myself now, 2 days later, caring about or 
remembering very much.  It was much too tense for a 7 year old, with a 
few pretty ugly scenes of burned-up people, so I'm glad we watched it 
before the kids did.


#72 of 290 by remmers on Tue Jul 14 15:26:41 1998:

(Disaster movies seem to be in fashion at the Perry household... ;-)


#73 of 290 by jep on Tue Jul 14 16:06:29 1998:

Monster movies.  7 year olds like monster movies.  We've had a couple of 
older Godzilla movies, and King Kong is at the house right now, too.  
Last night we started watching "Gremlins" -- I haven't seen it, so I 
don't know if it qualifies.  "Volcano" was a departure from the summer 
theme.


#74 of 290 by maeve on Tue Jul 14 20:10:15 1998:

back to Gone With the Wind...after reading the book (twice I think), I"m going
to have to be uncharacteristic and say that the power struggle was what
Scarlett liked about Rhett...she always wanted what she couldn't have..<shrug>
some people like that sort of thing..


#75 of 290 by omni on Wed Jul 15 04:09:57 1998:

  Volcano- Saw it on HBO a while back. Not impressed. One star.

  The Mouse that Roared- If you havn't seen it, see it. It should be 
  on Bravo for the next couple of weeks. Absolutly a classic.


#76 of 290 by mooncat on Wed Jul 15 15:25:04 1998:

I kinda liked Volcano when I saw it in the theater, but I don't
think that I would want to see it again.

I really thought that Mousehunt was a very cute movie. :)  Although,
Catzilla looked a little too much like my kitten would look (if
Sasha were mangy and a little bigger)



#77 of 290 by md on Wed Jul 15 21:03:29 1998:

ARMAGEDDON (B+) -- Better than Deep Impact, and a lot better than
some of the reviews made it sound.  The two bad guys from FARGO (A)
are in it.  Steve Buscemi plays a raunchy genius, and the other
guy plays a short-tempered Russian, and they get all the good lines.
"Time to embrace the horror, fellas."  "American components, Russian
components -- all made in Taiwan."


#78 of 290 by senna on Thu Jul 16 08:47:27 1998:

Predator:  Interesting story, not too shabbily executed.  It's helped
immensely by the lack of dialogue, particularly late in the film.  2 1/2
stars.


#79 of 290 by krj on Fri Jul 17 18:24:28 1998:

back in resp:70 , coyote asked if the Toshiro Mifune series at Lorch 
Hall would be subtitled or dubbed.  I am assuming subtitled, just because
I have never heard of these films being presented dubbed.  As the 
sponsor of the series is the Center for Japanese Studies, I would 
guess they would want the original Japanese dialogue.  But this is only 
a guess.
 
TITANIC opens today at the Fox Village, according to the A2 News, so 
perhaps I will finally get a chance to see it this week.


#80 of 290 by other on Fri Jul 17 18:24:48 1998:

cool!


#81 of 290 by eieio on Fri Jul 17 18:39:02 1998:

Tonight, quarter to midnight, Spike & Mike's Sick & Twisted is at the 
Michigan. It features "The Spirit of Christmas", on the big screen!
 
And I have one thing to say to anyone who spent way too much time watching
the RealVideo version and now feels compelled to recite the lines along 
with the film: "YOU DIE! YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE!"


#82 of 290 by beeswing on Fri Jul 17 20:44:51 1998:

uh, if you're referring to the oft-mentioned quote on South Park, it's:

"No! You go to hell! You go to hell and you die!"


#83 of 290 by ivynymph on Fri Jul 17 21:05:21 1998:

<ivy looks incredibly confused, having *no* idea who SPike and Mike are or
what other is talking about....>

<ivy decides to never see Titanic, given that it'll be gone by the time she's
near>



#84 of 290 by other on Fri Jul 17 21:57:56 1998:

I was reacting to the announcement that titanic is playing at the $1.50
theatre.


#85 of 290 by ivynymph on Fri Jul 17 22:17:20 1998:

(I meant the spike and mike show....<smirk>)

I'm annoyed that Titanic took forever to get to Fox and now it's there while
I'm not.  grrrrr. 



#86 of 290 by senna on Fri Jul 17 22:19:10 1998:

Really?  I'm seeing it tomorrow.


#87 of 290 by anderyn on Fri Jul 17 22:58:59 1998:

Gooing to see Mark of Zorro tomorrow. Chick flick -- mostly girls in the
group.


#88 of 290 by senna on Sat Jul 18 20:38:37 1998:

Mask of Zorro was tolerable, but had a lot of foolish points.  The fencing
choreography was occasionally entertaining and occasionally just derivitive,
as were many of the plot points (felt like watching the star wars trilogy in
1840's california).  Antonia Banderas did a good job, particularly as his mild
mannered rich guy alter ego.  I found him sort of wanting as Zorro, but that's
because he isn't Cary Elwes.


#89 of 290 by remmers on Sun Jul 19 01:43:00 1998:

<remmers notes that the Star Wars trilogy was derivative>


#90 of 290 by coyote on Sun Jul 19 04:07:27 1998:

Re #79:
        Ok, thanks.  Just wanted to make sure there was *some* form of English
available there.  :)  I'll try to make it to at least one of those.  Do you
know what the other films are for the rest of the series, or where I could
find a list?  (The Observer, maybe?)


#91 of 290 by krj on Sun Jul 19 04:51:53 1998:

The July "Current" has a one-page feature on the entire Toshiro Mifune
series; the individual films, all on Fridays, should be listed in the 
Observer.  I know that "Yojimbo" is somewhere in the schedule for 
August.


#92 of 290 by coyote on Sun Jul 19 05:08:58 1998:

Ah, ok, thanks!


#93 of 290 by senna on Sun Jul 19 05:44:38 1998:

Not nearly this derivative, John.  And a lot better.  Besides, George
practically rewrote most of the old archetypes with the thing.


#94 of 290 by tpryan on Sun Jul 19 06:11:21 1998:

        Let us know how the qulaity of the film print of Titanic is.
I trust even less very used movie stock at the dollar fifty movies.


#95 of 290 by maeve on Sun Jul 19 07:21:41 1998:

<my words through the credits of Zorro> 'A zipper?!?! what are they thinking?
a zipper!' 
it was *very* funny, we had a peanut gallery/wit's circle going..yay


#96 of 290 by other on Sun Jul 19 08:01:16 1998:

        GATTACA:  Nicely done.  The production design paid wonderful attention
to details.  The overall sense of starkness and the classic feel given by the
amber filter really set the mood nicely.  A futuristic story in which genetic
engineering and analysis are the means by which a new class culture is
developed.  The lower caste, the laborers, are those people whose births were
not arranged and engineered to produce maximum development of specified
talents and functions.  The story revolves around a child born of love, not
engineering, who has a dream, and the will to pursue it against not only odds,
but the strictures of society.  It's an identity switch formula story, with
a topical interpretation.  Concept: B  Originality: D  Execution: A-

        BLACK SUNDAY:  A terrorist organization called Black September,
fighting in the name of the Palestinian people, plans an ingenious, if
tremendously farfetched, attack on a stadium full of people--including the
President of the US--at the Super Bowl in Miami.  The Steelers vs. the
Cowboys.  Made in 1977, the film has a distinctly dated feel, but left me with
the impression that if redone using modern technology, it would make an
incredibly good thriller (assuming competent execution).  An Israeli agent
is pitted against the woman he didn't kill when he had the chance as she
masterminds this operation.  Be prepared for slower pacing than modern films,
and some seemingly obscure shots that seem to do nothing for the film but take
up time.  Concept: A  Originality: A  Execution: B-


#97 of 290 by ivynymph on Sun Jul 19 08:02:58 1998:

(ack!  Gattaca was nap time...)


#98 of 290 by danr on Sun Jul 19 13:16:59 1998:

We went to see Titanic yesterday, and the print quality seemed fine.
I enjoyed the movie, but it wasn't **that** good.


#99 of 290 by beeswing on Sun Jul 19 18:00:40 1998:

I have yet to see it, but am I wrong in guessing Gattaca's allure was mainly
due to one Uma Thurman?


#100 of 290 by md on Sun Jul 19 20:46:10 1998:

I agree Gattaca was pretty bad.  Black Sunday was okay, though.
Bruce Dern set the standard for movie psychotics in that one.


#101 of 290 by anderyn on Sun Jul 19 21:12:11 1998:

Now, I liked Mark of Zorro. Derivative, maybe, but who cares when it's the
best flick I've seen this summer after Mulan? I liked them putting in the
actual history of Murieta and Three-fingered Jack and Captain Love (Joaquim
Murieta and his crony Three-fingered Jack were killed in much the same way
as in the movie and Captain Love did indeed keep the head and hand in jars,
in fact, they were exhibited all over California. Ick!), even though most
of the people I went with didn't remember the story. And of course I adored
Anthony Hopkins. Banderas was nice, but Hopkins had fire.


#102 of 290 by senna on Sun Jul 19 22:52:10 1998:

Heh.  Sitting in front of maeve during Zorro was terribly amusing.


#103 of 290 by maeve on Sun Jul 19 23:08:58 1998:

<blush>


#104 of 290 by eieio on Mon Jul 20 01:52:06 1998:

Every time I see the posters for "The Avengers", I feel like copping Dave
Letterman at the Oscars.
 
Uma? Emma. Emma? Uma.


#105 of 290 by other on Mon Jul 20 06:57:44 1998:

actually, i did comment in earnest at one point during gattaca that uma
thurman's face looked like a picasso.  she did not look her best in this film.



#106 of 290 by remmers on Mon Jul 20 13:17:58 1998:

Re #93: Ever seen any of the old Flash Gordon movie serials?


#107 of 290 by remmers on Mon Jul 20 13:18:40 1998:

Re #102: Must've been stadium-style seating, or maeve wouldn't have
been able to see a thing.


#108 of 290 by scott on Mon Jul 20 18:47:32 1998:

Well, I did see Titanic, finally, once the price was dropped by the move to
Fox.  Film quality was fine, sound was good (and not too loud, either).

The movie?  Wonderful production, but pity about the script.


#109 of 290 by senna on Mon Jul 20 20:42:19 1998:

As a matter of fact, it was.


#110 of 290 by tpryan on Tue Jul 21 03:36:21 1998:

        Heard second hand that some reviewer rated Mark of Zorro as the
best "Batman" movie yet.  I gotta check it out.


#111 of 290 by senna on Tue Jul 21 06:49:43 1998:

Mask of Zorro, actually.  I saw it again with some different friends.  They
give it two thumbs up.  It was fun.


#112 of 290 by albaugh on Tue Jul 21 17:59:29 1998:

Deep Impact was definitely worth $2.  Maybe not much more, but...  ;-)


#113 of 290 by anderyn on Tue Jul 21 19:25:41 1998:

Mask of Zorro was great. The Batman thing is because of the Zorro
cave under the original Zorro's mansion, but I don't care.


#114 of 290 by mrmat on Tue Jul 21 20:06:05 1998:

 Saw a "biography" of Zorro on A&E the other day, the creator of Batman was
actually inspired by seeing a Zorro movie with Douglas Fairbanks Sr.


#115 of 290 by senna on Wed Jul 22 18:29:30 1998:

Zorro has his key differences, which took me slightly off guard since I was
in a Batman mode of thinking.  Like, he smiled at the people he was saving
and seemed actually happy.  And he was no detective.  Things like that.


#116 of 290 by beeswing on Thu Jul 23 04:48:29 1998:

I agree "Deep Impact" blew. 


#117 of 290 by albaugh on Thu Jul 23 17:36:20 1998:

And who would you be agreeing with, bees?


#118 of 290 by beeswing on Fri Jul 24 02:16:19 1998:

Whoever it was up a few responses ago who said it pretty much sucked.


No, that was just the voices in my head telling me that. Sorry.


#119 of 290 by hhsrat on Sat Jul 25 00:18:06 1998:

(hhsrat is feeling deprived right now, being that the last movie I saw 
in the theater was Air Force One)

I actually liked that movie.  The action scenes were good, and unlike 
one of my personal favorites (Airplane) you didn't know until the last 
few moments if they would survive or not.  I think they could have made 
the ending cheesier (but not necessarily better) by playing the Star 
Spangled Banner when the plane changed call signs.  One really 
interesting part (from the true Wolverine sports fan) was seeing Notre 
Dame lose to Michigan :)

You wanna know what movies I really hate?  The Mighty Ducks series.  
Yeah, the first one was OK, but all the sequels are so predictable.  
Also, Disney does not know how to cover a hockey game.  (just watch a 
tape of CBC Molson Hockey Night in Canada then watch D2 or D3 (or flip 
back and forth))


#120 of 290 by aaron on Sat Jul 25 05:49:22 1998:

I grudgingly went to Small Soldiers the other day, and have to say that I
was pleasantly surprised. The plot is about what you would expect, but
there is sufficient humor in the script and in the visuals to make the
movie quite enjoyable.


#121 of 290 by maeve on Sat Jul 25 05:56:00 1998:

I saw Henry Fool....it was..bleh..but it wasn't Danny's fault


#122 of 290 by senna on Sat Jul 25 07:43:06 1998:

Wow.  I saw Saving Private Ryan on opening night.  That was incredible.  Not
for the faint of heart, mind you, but it was a mindblowing movie experience.
On occasion I'll be watching D-Day films or somesuch and try to think of what
it would be like.  It doesn't come close.  This has been dubbed the greatest
war movie every made, and I have little reason to doubt it.  The message is
anti-war, but even pro-war people should see this.  

I'll tell you what, this makes me thankful for my collapsed arches, which I
believe would prevent me from getting soldier duty.  The whole movie told me
that I don't want another war to occur.  And I'd hate to be caught in it. 
It's incredibly realistic.  Worth every penny.

10 out of 10, five stars, two thumbs up, etc


#123 of 290 by eieio on Sat Jul 25 12:15:17 1998:

Here's what kind of damaged cynic I am.
Whenever I hear or see the term "Saving Private Ryan", I immediately 
mentally change it to the title of a gay porno which I'm sure someone
will someday make.


#124 of 290 by remmers on Sat Jul 25 12:32:53 1998:

Remmers' list of movies that he hasn't seen yet but intends to:
--------------------------------------------------------------

"Small Soldiers" is marginally on my list of things to see, despite
the unenthusiastic reviews, because I like Joe Dante, the director
("Matinee", "Gremlins"). Its first-run engagements seem to be winding
down, though. I'll probably wait until it shows up at a budget theater.

"Henry Fool", which was a Cannes Film Festival prize-winner, is
polarizing the critics -- they either love it (New York Times' Janet
Maslin) or hate it (Siskel & Ebert, Chris Potter). Regardless, it's on
my must-see list because Hal Hartley wrote and directed it. He's made
three films that I like a whole lot ("The Unbelieveable Truth", "Trust",
"Simple Men") but also a couple that left me cold.

I guess I'll have to see "Saving Private Ryan" because everybody is
saying it's so great. Maybe it is. The fact that Chris Potter raves
about it, and says that Spielberg may be the greatest director in the
world, raises a red flag though. (When "Dune" came out, he said it
might be the greatest movie ever made...)


#125 of 290 by omni on Sat Jul 25 14:58:38 1998:

  The greatest director may be Martin Scorsese.

  It's not Speilberg.


#126 of 290 by hhsrat on Sat Jul 25 18:39:46 1998:

Christopher Potter?  Isnt't that the Ann Arbor News guy who hates 
everything?  I've never seen him give something a good review.


#127 of 290 by senna on Sat Jul 25 19:58:23 1998:

He gets one or two reviews right a year.  This would seem to be it.  Every
review I've seen raves about it.

You sure it's not Spielberg?  Not only is he capable of brillant films, but
he's incredibly variable.  He's not just a blockbuster filmmaker.  He
accomplishes practically everything he sets out to do.  Martin Scorsese is
brilliant, but he hasn't impressed me as much.  I've always thought Alphred
Hitchcock.


#128 of 290 by richard on Sat Jul 25 20:31:13 1998:

Actually the AFI voted Spielberg the greatest American director of the century.
Spielberg said he didnt deserve it, that Martin Scorcese is the greatest.  I'd
agree.  I watch Scorcese's films over and over and see different things in them
every time.


#129 of 290 by richard on Sat Jul 25 20:57:22 1998:

"SAVING PRIVATE RYAN"--  This is a movie that I have to see again, because
the battle scenes are so detailed that one cant possibly appreciate them in
just one viewing.    The opening sequence, showing the D-day invasion, is just
staggering.   Spielberg has said noone under the age of 15 should see this, and
certianly it is NOT for anyone who is squeamish.  It is as brutal and explicit
a portrayal of war that I think is possible to put on film.    The battle scene
at the end where Tom Hanks and crew fight the Germans over a bridge is if
anything just as explicit as the opening.  
    The movie basically portrays D-Day as the last good battle, the end of     
     
innocence.  One moment Hanks and co. are fighting the Germans on the beach, and
the next day they are detailed to risk their lives on a public relations
mission  to go into Germany and locate Private Ryan, whose three brothers have
been killed and get him home.     One day war is for the grand purpose, and the
next war is to make politicians and pentagon brass look good.  The reality of
this mission makes cynics out of Hanks entire outfit.   
   The  movie opens and closes in the present, with Private Ryan standing in
the D-Day military cemetary in France,  now an old man who has spent much
of his life tormented over the sacrifices Hanks  and his men made for him.  
   This is a movie that clearly spells out the uselessness of war and the fact
that although many died in WW II for what were not the best reasons, mostly
they died with honor.  
   D-Day was the pivotal moment of this century.  Had it not happened when
it happened, or if anything went wrong,  Hitler could have had the time to
divert more troops to Normandy and might have defeated the Allied forces.
Hitler may well have ended up in control of Europe and no doubt would have
eventually taken the war over to our shores.   "SAVING PRIVATE RYAN" is
a movie that needed to be made, because so many people dont understand
the history behind this event, the sacrifices that were made, and the intense
brutality of what went on.
   A great movie.  I rank it right up there with "All Quiet on the Western
   Front", and
"Platoon" as the greatest war  movies I've ever seen. ***** (five stars)



#130 of 290 by maeve on Sat Jul 25 21:42:11 1998:

henry fool was very good, at being very bad..we'll put it this way..I got out
of the theater and had to run around the block to get all my annoyed energy
out..

(it's not danny's fault)


#131 of 290 by aaron on Sat Jul 25 22:29:13 1998:

Christopher Potter's biggest flaw is that he confuses summarizing a movie
with "reviewing" a movie. His second biggest flaw is that he generally has
bad taste.



#132 of 290 by i on Sun Jul 26 03:05:29 1998:

Re: #129
You've very little knowledge of how Overlord played out if you think that 
nothing went wrong.  Hitler didn't need more time to sent troops to
Normandy (he'd done that in May '44, moving the 21st Panzer division, 91st
Infantry, and loads of smaller units into near-perfect positions to 
oppose the invasion), he needed a transportation network that the Allied 
air forces weren't bombing into rubble.  And what he could have diverted 
of the 59 divisions in the West on 6/4/44 after a victory in Normandy would 
not have changed the 163 divisions being vanquished in Italy and the East
into winners. 

The horrible carnage of D-Day (on the Allied side) was mostly due to
General Omar Bradley & Co.'s refusal to learn from the horrible carnage 
of the Dieppe raid.  The British weren't that stupid (well, it was *their*
guys who got butchered at Dieppe), and went ashore prepared in Normandy -
enjoying an easy victory and minimal losses as a result. 


#133 of 290 by kittie on Sun Jul 26 03:56:19 1998:

For anyone who likes comedies will absolutely LOVE the movie "Mafia"
It was *very* funny


#134 of 290 by omni on Sun Jul 26 04:30:43 1998:

  Scorsese will always be my favorite, that is, next to my all time favorite,
Barry Levinson.
 
  Spielberg did a great job on Always.


#135 of 290 by senna on Sun Jul 26 07:06:14 1998:

I'd disagree with some of the interpretations richard took out of Private
Ryan, but that's a personal issue anyway.  The ending review was on target.


#136 of 290 by carolyn on Mon Jul 27 03:13:57 1998:

Mr Potter seems to think that every movie has to be socially redeeming.
I usually disagree with him and have met very few people who agree with his
point of view on any film.  How does that guy keep his job?


#137 of 290 by fyber219 on Mon Jul 27 05:26:38 1998:

Hi everyone........  I'm new to this conf.   I work at a local movie theatre,
doing pretty much everything.   So if anyone has any questions about how
things work "behind the scenes" or maybe if a movie that is coming out is
anygood (I usually watch the new releases in special screenings for employee's
days before it comes out)   leave a message for me here or e-mail me at 
movieguy@fyber.fsn.net
-Neil  aka. Fyber219 aka. movieguy


#138 of 290 by kittie on Mon Jul 27 09:24:29 1998:

Welcome, fyber219


#139 of 290 by eieio on Mon Jul 27 13:55:01 1998:

I thought that Potter wasn't that far off the mark in his review of
"Ponette". He's given me a couple of decent reviews, so I'm afraid I 
qualify, at best, as a part-time Potter-basher. 
 
But it's not for nothing that his annual awards are referred to as
"The Potties".


#140 of 290 by remmers on Tue Jul 28 13:09:52 1998:

"Henry Fool"  A+

To hell with what some of the critics say. This is a wonderful
film. Funny, moving, satirical, complex, risk-taking, thought-
provoking epic about friendship, influence, responsibility, and
several other things. Brilliantly written, photographed, and
acted. I loved almost every minute of it, including a few distinctly
uncomfortable ones. It firmly establishes Hal Hartley as one of
today's great filmmakers.

The blurb in the Michigan Theater schedule asserts that the film
was inspired by Harold Bloom's _The Anxiety of Influence_. I shall
have to have a look at that book.

"Henry Fool" still has a couple more showings at the Michigan
Theater - Tuesday July 28 at 7:00 and Thursday July 30 at 9:00.


#141 of 290 by toking on Tue Jul 28 13:58:39 1998:

"Disturbing Behavior" has to be one of the worst movies I"ve seen in a
long time. The idea was kinda cool, but something went drastically wrong
when they tried to do something with it.

first half hour: too slow, too stupid
next 15 minutes: kinda cool
rest: too fast, too little


#142 of 290 by eieio on Tue Jul 28 14:56:17 1998:

The idea was kind of cool... when it was still called "The Stepford Wives".


#143 of 290 by nsiddall on Tue Jul 28 15:12:08 1998:

Quick question:  What is the film that Jim Jarmusch made with soundtrack
based on Screaming Jay Hawkins "I Put a Spell on You"?

(I just watched "Down by Law" again; watched the mesmerizing intro over
and over, set to a perfect Tom Waits song...and now I want to see that
earlier film, but I forget the name of it.)

("Mystery Train" is very good, too.)



#144 of 290 by remmers on Tue Jul 28 16:53:18 1998:

If it's earlier than "Down by Law", which was Jarmusch's second
feature, then it must be "Stranger than Paradise", his first.


#145 of 290 by maeve on Tue Jul 28 19:15:57 1998:

ugh, I hated Henry Fool..granted it was well-made, but it was a well-made
bad-movie


#146 of 290 by remmers on Wed Jul 29 01:49:20 1998:

Well, as was said more than once in the movie itself, "You can't
argue about taste."


#147 of 290 by maeve on Wed Jul 29 06:09:34 1998:

oh..and why did all teh clothes, hairstyles etc stay exactly the same 10 or
so years later in the 'end' of teh film? that bothered me..


#148 of 290 by remmers on Wed Jul 29 11:50:40 1998:

I don't think Hartley was after naturalistic realism. If that
bothered you, how about this: Did you notice all the beer in the
film? People drinking from cans and carrying around six-packs.
Did you notice that it was always exactly the same brand?


#149 of 290 by maeve on Wed Jul 29 15:30:34 1998:

did you notice no one ever ate anythign except beer, the one bite of lasagna,
and some curdled milk?


#150 of 290 by md on Wed Jul 29 20:46:21 1998:

*Sounds* incredibly stupid, but I'll have to go see for myself.  
Bloom's book is about "intentional misreading."  Fairly controversial 
at the time, pretty bland now.

SAVING PRIVATE RYAN (B) -- Tom Hanks is excellent in this movie, but
despite its celebrated "realism" the movie is filled with cliches.  
It even has an example of the "It Was Written" rule, which appeared
notably in Lawrence of Arabia: Lawrence risks his life to save a man
everyone else says is doomed, just to prove that "nothing is written"
(i.e., in the Book of Fate), and then ends up having to shoot the man 
himself later in the movie.  The John Williams score, complete with 
piously noble chorus vocalising wordlessly, gives the game away.  
High-grade kitsch, if you like that sort of thing.  But Tom Hanks is 
fantastic, despite everything.  

Recent rental: ZERO EFFECT (B-) -- The casting was awful, but it's an
interesting idea.  A postmodern Sherlock Holmes and his disaffected
Watson.


#151 of 290 by llanarth on Wed Jul 29 23:11:53 1998:

I *really* liked _City Of Angels_ and the soundtrack rocks too.


#152 of 290 by nsiddall on Thu Jul 30 22:18:19 1998:

"Stranger than Paradise", yes, that's it.  Saw it years ago.  One of the
characters listens to Screaming Jay Hawkins constantly on her walkman.  I
guess because of that, Jarmusch got to know Screaming Jay, and he appeared
as an actor in another movie, "Mystery Train".  He played a hotel clerk,
and did a good job, and was an interesting character.  Soundtrack for that
movie was Elvis Presley, Carl Perkins, etc.  And in "Down by Law", Tom
Waits did music and acted a major part, and did brilliantly in both.
These are all great movies.


#153 of 290 by md on Thu Jul 30 22:55:58 1998:

THE NEGOTIATOR (B) -- Tries hard to be a thinking person's action
movie.  Samuel L. Jackson and Kevin Spacey are both excellent.
The story is even farther fetched than you expect such a movie to
be, but I still enjoyed it.


#154 of 290 by otter on Sat Aug 1 06:25:40 1998:

Rented "Daibolique" with Chazz Palminteri (woof!) and Sharon Stone. It's about
a man who is murdered by his wife and mistress, but turns up later, very much
alive. Whatever. Thing is, I could swear it's a remake of a movie I saw about
10 years ago, almost shot for shot. Can someone here help me out with the
title of the earlier one?


#155 of 290 by mcnally on Sat Aug 1 07:18:51 1998:

  "Diabolique"

  the recent (94? 95?) film was a remake of the French classic starring
  Simone Signoret..


#156 of 290 by scott on Sat Aug 1 12:02:37 1998:

"Seven Samurai", the Kurasawa classic (at Lorch Hall, free!).  Great movie,
3.5 hours long but I even was able to stay the full length.


#157 of 290 by otter on Sun Aug 2 04:35:01 1998:

ref #155: Then maybe the one I'm looking for is an earlier remake, circa
1985-88.
<shrug> How old is the French one?


#158 of 290 by remmers on Sun Aug 2 13:05:02 1998:

The original French "Diabolique" dates from 1955. There was a
made-for-TV remake in 1974 called "Reflections of Murder" that
starred Tuesday Weld. Perhaps that's the one you saw?


#159 of 290 by otter on Mon Aug 3 22:35:46 1998:

Hmmm. Thanks, I'll check into that. The title "Dead of Winter" comes to mind,
too.


#160 of 290 by remmers on Tue Aug 4 00:51:24 1998:

"Dead of Winter" was a 1987 thriller starring Mary Steenburgen 
and Roddy McDowall. It was about a woman being held prisoner in
an eerie old mansion. Not really the same story as "Diabolique",
but somewhat similar ambience perhaps.


#161 of 290 by mystik on Wed Aug 5 17:13:05 1998:

The Best movie of the entire summer is SAVING PRIVATE RYAN The movie is just
flat out great!Spielberg once again shows why hes the best...The acting was
tremendous and the movie didnt get boring for even a minuite ...(exept for
maybe the last 1 min or so...Youls see what I mean(ie the future)..The movie
is an A++...!!!


#162 of 290 by omni on Sat Aug 8 04:08:55 1998:

  Evita 3 stars.
    I didn't see the stage play, but it was very well staged, and acted by
both Antonio Bandares, and Madonna, who was suprisingly good as Eva. In many
respects it was typical Andrew Lloyd Webber/Tim Rice in style. It reminded
me a lot of Jesus Christ, Superstar. The songs by Madonna were excellent, and
Banderes is a good singer as well. I didn't know that about him.
   I highly suggest that if you have the chance to see it, see it.


#163 of 290 by kittie on Sat Aug 8 08:35:34 1998:

I saw "Halloween: H20" 
One word....

Wow


#164 of 290 by scott on Sat Aug 8 11:42:45 1998:

"Yojimbo", a Japanese film from 1961 directed by Akira Kurasawa and starring
Toshiro Mifune.  If you ever wondered where John Belushi got his samurai
character from, you must see this film.  Very funny!


#165 of 290 by tpryan on Sat Aug 8 12:20:59 1998:

        A freind of mine said Evita reminded him of Joseph & his Amazing
Techinicolr Dreamcoat.  Musically.


#166 of 290 by scott on Sat Aug 8 12:41:58 1998:

Oh, the other important thing about Yojimbo:  It was remade as a western
starring Clint Eastwood, as "A Fistfull of Dollars", and appears to be the
inspiration for the classic Clint "man with no name" character that appeared
in a number of films.


#167 of 290 by e4808mc on Sat Aug 8 16:40:35 1998:

Another interesting thing about Yojimbo: the sequi "Sanjuro" is playing on
Friday Aug 14 at the UM Center for Japanese STudies at 7 pm.


#168 of 290 by e4808mc on Sat Aug 8 17:01:52 1998:

Location is actually Lorch Hall for "Sanjuro"


#169 of 290 by krj on Sat Aug 8 17:50:40 1998:

Right, Center for Japanese Studies is the sponsor of the films,
not the location.  I'm glad someone is getting to see these.


#170 of 290 by omni on Sun Aug 9 04:05:43 1998:

  I think Evita was written just after Jesus Christ, Superstar. I remember
buying the sountrack and libretto in 1981. I really fell in love with it, and
I was pissed when some jerk stole it along with all my other tapes.


#171 of 290 by kittie on Sun Aug 9 04:43:12 1998:

I just got back from watching "Ever After"... yet another grrreat Drew
Barrymore film :)


#172 of 290 by scg on Sun Aug 9 05:06:14 1998:

I saw Ever After last night.  It was pretty nice.



#173 of 290 by daimon on Tue Aug 11 12:56:10 1998:

I saw SAVING PRIVATE RYAN last Saturday.  That's a film I have no 
problem recommending.  The best word to describe it is "relentless" - 
the killing and the mayhem just never seems to end.  It was a good up 
close and personal look at some real dying and death during a war.  A+, 
go see it, yadda yadda yadda.


#174 of 290 by jep on Tue Aug 11 14:49:34 1998:

We rented The Full Monty over the weekend.  I thought it was tedious and 
boring, with very little to recommend it.

We also rented Men in Black.  While I enjoyed this one (as I knew, I've 
seen it before) I found myself wondering, as I have with other Tommy Lee 
Jones movies:  if they replaced Tommy Lee Jones with a cardboard cutout, 
would anyone notice the difference?  He seems like an "insert generic 
actor here" kind of guy.


#175 of 290 by senna on Tue Aug 11 16:06:20 1998:

Somehow I find the critiques of Saving Private Ryan, including mine, to be
amusing--"relentless, nonstop gore.  Excellent movie, A+."  Is that just me,
or is this really a unique issue? :)


#176 of 290 by bjorn on Tue Aug 11 17:19:21 1998:

on August 8th, scg, Dave Warner, and I saw "Snake Eyes".  We thought it was,
um, interesting.


#177 of 290 by coyote on Tue Aug 11 23:07:22 1998:

Re 174:
        Really?  I though The Full Monty was a really funny, cute movie.


#178 of 290 by maeve on Tue Aug 11 23:27:16 1998:

I liked the Full Monty, but then I was biased..a lot...


#179 of 290 by happyboy on Wed Aug 12 01:35:43 1998:

you have a think for chubby nekkid guys?


#180 of 290 by md on Wed Aug 12 12:48:28 1998:

LOLITA (A) -- Somebody read the novel on which this movie is based
and then crafted an amazingly detailed visual representation of it.
Not much of Nabokov's language brilliance remains, but the scenes
are so beautifully detailed that many of them came close to matching
the mental images I've always had of the book's people and places.
An awful lot of stuff has been left out that Kubrick managed to
include in his version 35 years ago, such as John and Jean Farlow,
Frederick Beale, etc.  These were wonderful Nabokovian comic
characters, whose absence is more than made up for, imho, by the
loving, almost obsessive, detail paid to other things, such as the
various motels, Beardsley school, and the Kasbeam barber.  Above
all, the movie captures the rich, inescapable horror of Nabokov's
novel.  Hubert's sexual paradise had skies the color of hell-flames,
he said, and it's all there.  The screenwriter added a couple of
years to Dolores's age (making her 14 instead of 12) and also to
Humbert's age (40ish instead of mid-thirties), but the shame and
horror are still there.  Now if we can talk Adrian Lyne into doing
Pale Fire .. .


#181 of 290 by md on Wed Aug 12 13:03:09 1998:

LETHAL WEAPON 4 (D) -- I was hoping that Chris Rock might inject
some new life into this tired old franchise.  No such luck.

SPHERE (C) -- One of those movies you hate because of all the cool
things it could have done and didn't.  The three main actors, Dustin
Hoffman, Samuel L. Jackson and Sharon Stone, are three of my
all-time favorites, though, so just seeing them trying to keep
straight faces was worth the price of the rental.

JACKIE BROWN (B) -- Not bad at all.  Extremely well-cast, especially
Samuel L. Jackson as a not-very-bright but very vicious villian.
(Jackson is turing into the male version of Anne Heche -- he seems
to be in every other movie I see.)


#182 of 290 by maeve on Wed Aug 12 14:46:35 1998:

close :) the accents are the third on my list of favourites...and there are
some amazingly funny visual puns(?)
(I'm not sure how to explain visual puns ot people..it's kind of a dancer
thing..)


#183 of 290 by happyboy on Wed Aug 12 21:25:39 1998:

re180
did the movie show chafemarks from her retainer?


#184 of 290 by senna on Thu Aug 13 09:26:25 1998:

Hmm.  Something About Mary was quite amusing and rather good.  Not for the
faint of heart, though.


#185 of 290 by md on Thu Aug 13 10:44:04 1998:

Re #183, no, Dolores Haze always takes her retainer out first in
this movie.  She didn't wear a retainer at all in the novel, though, 
so that's one of the screenwriters' added details.  Btw, I didn't
like Melanie Griffith as Charlotte Haze.  Shelly Winters was much
better in the Kubrick version.  Neither Peter Sellers nor Frank
Langella is very close to the Clare Quilty of the novel.  I would
have casted someone like Jason Alexander or Wallace Shawn, or even 
Harvey Feirstein if I could get him to calm down.  The gruesome and
nightmarish murder scene at the end of the new movie is lightyears
better than the Kubrick version.  It follows the novel almost step
by step.  But Quilty needs to be more prissy and theatrical about
the whole thing.  Imagine a man being shot to death, and with each
bullet he twitches and smirks and actually seems to be having fun
with it, saying things like, "Ah! Very painful.  Very painful, indeed.
God!  Hah!  That hurts atrociously, my good fellow.  I pray you desist."


#186 of 290 by remmers on Thu Aug 13 17:23:49 1998:

Well, he was more prissy than most people would be under the
circumstances.

I largely agree with you about "Lolita", both the new version and the
Kubrick rendition. Melanie Griffith was miscast -- she's much too
attractive for those things that Humbert wrote about her to be
convincing. I thought Jeremy Irons and Dominique Swain were excellent as
Humbert and Lolita respectively.

Gone from the new version were most of the novels's comic and satirical
touches that showed up in Kubrick's treatment. I think that resulted in
a significant shift of focus. Maybe it's worth remembering that Nabokov
himself wrote the screenplay for the Kubrick version.


#187 of 290 by bjorn on Thu Aug 13 17:47:53 1998:

I need to see the Hell segment from Deconstructing Harry again.


#188 of 290 by md on Thu Aug 13 22:43:11 1998:

Re #186, Kubrick credited Nabokov with the screenplay, but he
ignored most of it.  Nabokov's screenplay has been published,
if you want to compare it with Kubrick's movie.  If Kubrick
had gone along with everything, the movie would've been about
four hours long, and Vladimir Nabokov himself would've had
a cameo.


#189 of 290 by remmers on Thu Aug 13 23:11:30 1998:

Hm... I would like to see that movie.


#190 of 290 by maeve on Fri Aug 14 05:30:18 1998:

saw Pi, it was...interesting...it was well-shot and well-scored..but the film
itself was a bit annoying


#191 of 290 by other on Fri Aug 14 13:47:13 1998:

love all that flashing light and shaky camerawork.


#192 of 290 by maeve on Sat Aug 15 17:33:08 1998:

I saw The Avengers yesterday...it was wonderful..much along hte lines of James
Bond with more Saville Row and some odd Mary Quant things on Uma Thurman..ohit
was quite wonderful..


#193 of 290 by bruin on Sat Aug 15 18:04:27 1998:

RE #192 Also, in _The Avengers_, the evil Sir August was played by Sean
Connery, the original James Bond.


#194 of 290 by fitz on Sat Aug 15 20:29:09 1998:

There's Something about Mary  C-

Juvenile.  This two hour movie seemed *much* longer than it was.  I paid
matinee prices and did not get full entertainment value.  Still, it had a few
laughs (very few).


#195 of 290 by demon on Sat Aug 15 23:14:54 1998:

replacement killers is the best damn movie every made along with halfbaked
soo put away the crap and rent these 2 great movies!


#196 of 290 by remmers on Sun Aug 16 03:05:02 1998:

Never heard of those two. Want to tell us a little bit about them?


#197 of 290 by maeve on Sun Aug 16 03:36:57 1998:

The Commitments is an adorable movie...good accents, colm meany, and..soul


#198 of 290 by omni on Sun Aug 16 03:59:42 1998:

  I had the good fortune to catch Grand Canyon on cable. 
  It was made back in 1991, but I think it has deeper meaning to me now that
I know a little more about film it means a little more to me. It's hard to
put into words, but the meaning wasn't lost on me. It is about a group of
people each from a different strata of class, interacting and influencing 
each other's lives. It shows how even the littlest of things can have a huge
impact on someone else.
  Good script by Larry Kasdan, and performances by Steve Martin, Kevin Kline,
Mary Louise-Parker among others. One of the must see movies. 4 stars.


#199 of 290 by mcnally on Sun Aug 16 06:04:18 1998:

 re #196:  "the Replacement Killers" is Hong Kong action-hero Chow Yun Fat's
 big Hollywood debut, along with Mira Sorvino..  (?) (!)
 "Half Baked" looks like a lowbrow comedy of some sort..

 saw "the Avengers" tonight and thought it was a bit odd..  lots of strange
 humor, a weirdly-disjointed plot (if one can even call it a plot, more like
 a connected sequence of scenes..) and lots of great sets and costumes..
 I can't remember if the television series was similarly bizarre but this
 was a pretty odd movie..


#200 of 290 by katie on Sun Aug 16 06:06:34 1998:

I very much enjoyed "Something About Mary."


#201 of 290 by senna on Sun Aug 16 07:50:15 1998:

Sets?  Have to see that movie.


#202 of 290 by maeve on Sun Aug 16 20:26:47 1998:

see it steve..you must..


#203 of 290 by fitz on Sun Aug 23 17:22:18 1998:

Well, sure, there is a lot to like about "Something about Mary."  Good
production values, sound, ok lighting, actors that can say their lines and
smooth editing.  The concept of the story is sweet, but the writers kept it
buried under crude situation jokes that had all the cleverness of a
Saturday Night Live skit.  I like SNL skits, but I don't want to pay a
movie admission for jokes of that caliber.   I can enjoy a good joke about
drugged pets and ejaculate hair dressing, but they don't really seem to
work here--except to make me squirm in my seat.





#204 of 290 by beeswing on Sun Aug 23 19:11:47 1998:

Ohhh so THAT is what makes her hair stand up? Yeep!

(Haven't seen the movie, just bits on TV)


#205 of 290 by eieio on Sun Aug 23 20:09:03 1998:

<moderate spoiler>
I still don't understand how it is that his looper ended up where it did. That
would take some kind of contortionist.


#206 of 290 by gjharb on Sun Aug 23 23:49:59 1998:

Just saw Evita on one of the cable stations - very impressive.  A tragic story
of ambition on the personal level and class struggle on the national level.
Madonna's voice was strong and up to the role.  Antonio Banderas was excellent
as the Cynic.  Andrew Lloyd Weber's music is haunting.  Well worth seeing
again.


#207 of 290 by senna on Mon Aug 24 00:09:04 1998:

I think it had to do with what he was doing with his "action hand" after he,
um, finished plumbing, but I haven't gone back to check.


#208 of 290 by beeswing on Mon Aug 24 03:35:27 1998:

Re: Evita.... I have not seen it but heard it was good. Madonna always 
irriated me with her lack of acting ability, but supposedly she pulls 
it off in this one.


#209 of 290 by eieio on Mon Aug 24 03:37:33 1998:

Andrew Lloyd Webber's music "haunting"? That's a charitable way of phrasing
it. I'd be more apt to characterize it as "moribund".


#210 of 290 by scg on Mon Aug 24 04:07:11 1998:

I thought Something About Mary was hillarious.


#211 of 290 by omni on Mon Aug 24 05:53:51 1998:

  As I said in an earlier response, Evita was boffo, I loved it. 


#212 of 290 by mooncat on Mon Aug 24 13:00:24 1998:

I was really impressed when I saw "Evita" as well. :)  I think Madonna
did a great job as Eva Peron.



#213 of 290 by eieio on Mon Aug 24 15:21:07 1998:

There's talk that Final Cut will be shown at the State Theater, likely 
September 17.

I did graphics and titles for it, and I even have a brief scene with the 
slasher--come see me in all my 16mm glory!

Just this morning, I got a still from the film. It doesn't reveal a lot 
about the film, but you can have a first glimpse at

 http://www-personal.umich.edu/~asmithee/fcut.jpg


#214 of 290 by altreal on Mon Aug 24 20:13:06 1998:

hey!  i was in a film this summer with several crew who worked on the final
cut.  neat!


#215 of 290 by eieio on Tue Aug 25 00:27:46 1998:

Hey, who! Was it Gordon Eick's Starcatcher film, or whatever it's called? I
get the impression I'm going to be called into service to work on the
chromakey effects for that one.



#216 of 290 by tpryan on Tue Aug 25 03:22:30 1998:

        Sometimes you just don't know the effects on the ecosystem
from a film festival.


#217 of 290 by md on Tue Aug 25 23:01:24 1998:

EVEREST (B) -- This IMAX movie is showing at the Detroit Science
Center.  It's only about 45 minutes long and the story it tells,
of the great mountian and the people who died in a storm on it
in 1996, has been told better elsewhere.  But the IMAX technology
was made for something like this.  Spell-binding scenery and some
vertiginous effects.  My favorites were the avalanche they somehow
got to thunder straight down into the camera, and the scene where
a climber hangs suspended over a mountain abyss from a slowly
twirling line and the camera twirls with her, looking down.  I'm
told some of the climbing closeups were shot in the Rockies, and
some of the severe weather scenes were shot on Mt Washington in
New Hampshire.


#218 of 290 by maeve on Wed Aug 26 04:05:43 1998:

Clockwatchers: cute, a little odd, characature enough to be funny, but not
enough not to be real people at the same time..worth seeing..


#219 of 290 by scott on Wed Aug 26 10:48:59 1998:

"Austin Powers  International Man of Mystery".  Rented, after having had it
come up in conversation at Grexstock (I'd seen it in the theater when it came
out).  I'm starting to develop a little different mental filter for Mike Myers
films; with that in place "Austin Powers" is very funny.


#220 of 290 by iggy on Wed Aug 26 19:26:47 1998:

i finally got around to renting "pink flamingoes"
he heh holy crap!  not for the faint of heart.
lots of full frontal nudity (mostly male).
very bizzare..somewhat shocking.. and a bit gross.
the version i rented had a bunch of scenes that were originally
cut from the movie by john waters.. 
it is rated 'nc-17'... 
i cant grade it.. it was just too bizarre.
well.. ok. iggy gives it 4 involuntary open mouth gasps with a hand
slapped across the mouth for good measure.
(it s true.. really. my mouth was sore)


#221 of 290 by mcnally on Wed Aug 26 21:34:45 1998:

  Did the video-store rental version come with the Odorama* card?

  (* or whatever it was called..)


#222 of 290 by iggy on Wed Aug 26 23:07:46 1998:

i believe you are thinking of 'polyester'.
i used to have one of those cards, but after 15 years, it came
up missing. not that i ever keptclose track of it in the first place.


#223 of 290 by beeswing on Thu Aug 27 03:05:56 1998:

I highly reccommend his _Hairspray_ film, with the then-pudgy Ricki 
Lake. I love it when Penny's parents give her shock therapy for liking 
black boys :)


#224 of 290 by omni on Thu Aug 27 08:22:55 1998:

  I agree. Hairspray was fun, especially the music. Divine plays a dual role,
as the station owner, and Ricki Lake's mom. I loved the whole thing.

However....

  the other night I went and saw Wag the Dog. 
   Every time I think about it I burst out laughing. DeNiro was exactly on
target as the fixer. I don't know what it is about him, but he is one of the
greatest actors of all time. Hoffman was priceless, and was perfectly cast
in the role of the hollywood guy.
   I was a little put off about the fact that there are people who could
actually do this, and that worried me, but then I got over it, and remembered
that it was a movie and that kind of thing really doesn't happen in the real
world, or does it?
   Being it was a Barry Levinson thing, it was good to play "Spot Ralph".
There is an actor named Ralph Taboken. He is a little old, and he is a kindly
type man, and Barry Levinson gives him a small walk role in every one of his
movies. In Avalon, Ralph was the school principal. In Tin Men he played a
deadbeat who gets a supposed free siding job, and in Good Morning Vietnam he
played the chaplian. He also has a recurring role in Homicide as Dr. Schiener,
and usually has something witty to say to the cops. It's like trying to spot
Clint Howard in Ron Howard's films. 
  Wag the Dog was fun, and I enjoyed it. That's the bottom line. I'll probably
go and buy a used copy from the rental place. I give it 4 stars. It was
refreshing to see a movie of this quality, shot in 20 days, and with a small
budget. 

<please omit the word "walk", it doesn't belong there.>


#225 of 290 by remmers on Thu Aug 27 17:21:24 1998:

I myself was a teenager in the very early 1960's, the era in which
"Hairspray" is set; I can relate personally to some of the things
that it satirizes. Great music, too. An exceptionally likeable film.


#226 of 290 by omni on Thu Aug 27 18:53:52 1998:

  I liked Waters as the shrink. Perfect casting.


#227 of 290 by beeswing on Fri Aug 28 02:58:09 1998:

Definitely! I love how Ricki is supposed to be unattractive... she's 
big, with even bigger hair, and gets the Elvis look-alike, the guy all 
the girls are crazy for. Gotta love the Hefty Hideaway plugs. I laugh 
every time I think of Deborah Harry's hairdo that concealed the bomb.
And Sonny Bono could still be married to Cher for all I care now, he 
has my undying devotion for being in that film. ::Pause for moment of 
silence::


#228 of 290 by happyboy on Fri Aug 28 03:34:56 1998:

hah ha! i named my border collie for the owner of Hefty Hideaway!
Mister Pinky.


#229 of 290 by krj on Sat Aug 29 01:31:09 1998:

An earlier cinematic version of the sinking of the Titanic, 
A NIGHT TO REMEMBER from 1958, is being broadcast on the 
cable channel American Movie Classics at 0200 Eastern
Friday night/Saturday morning.  There may be other 
broadcasts.
 
I'm watching an early broadcast now; it's an interesting 
comparison to the James Cameron film.


#230 of 290 by beeswing on Sat Aug 29 03:15:34 1998:

My fave line from Hairspray, via Divine as the mother:

"Wilbur... it's the times. They're a-changin'.
Somethin's blowin' in the wind...
Fetch me my diet pill, would you hon?"


#231 of 290 by maeve on Sat Aug 29 05:15:12 1998:

The Governess was rather good, pretty, interesting, and left us with some
research inteh costume area to do..


#232 of 290 by omni on Sat Aug 29 07:20:34 1998:

  9 am on AMC-- Sullivan's Travels. DON'T MISS IT!! This film must be seen
by all who are serious about movies and film. Seeing will change you for the
better. It is so good, that Larry Kasdan wove a reference into Grand Canyon,
not that GC was anything to write to Mom about. ;)


#233 of 290 by mary on Sat Aug 29 14:03:52 1998:

"The Hanging Garden" is a disturbing film with an unusual
story line - what would happen if someone hadn't committed
suicide?  I'm still thinking about it but I already know
the choice to die wasn't necessarily wrong. 

It's a Canadian film now showing at The Michigan.


#234 of 290 by bruin on Sat Aug 29 18:16:32 1998:

RE #233 Wasn't that similar to Jimmy Stewart's character in _It's A 
Wonderful Life_ wishing he never was born?


#235 of 290 by drew on Sat Aug 29 18:24:00 1998:

Sounds like this one supports the opposite point of view?


#236 of 290 by mary on Sat Aug 29 18:26:39 1998:

It's not as easy as opposite points of view.


#237 of 290 by scott on Sun Aug 30 14:09:28 1998:

"The Fifth Element" -- A

Wish I'd seen this earlier.  Very funny sci-fi, made by a French director (but
it's all in English, Bruce Willis, etc).  The non-typical visual look and
costumes are incredible, esp. the way details are revealed.  In one part, we
see the "bad guy thugs" wearing typical sci-fi bad guy thugs type costumes,
basically another adaption of the black jacket look.  Later on, we see them
walking away from the camera, revealing that the uniforms include black rubber
shorts with hairy legs!  Very funny, and this sort of thing happens a number
of times.  I'd rate this up there with Terry Gilliam's "Brazil" or the
Syvester Stallone movie "Demolition Man".  (Demolition Man *was* a typical
Stallone action film... except that it was also a very funny sci-fi film at
the same time, with lots of creative detail)


#238 of 290 by maeve on Mon Aug 31 00:31:26 1998:

the costumes were Jean-Paul Gautier having *way* too much fun..it was cute


#239 of 290 by md on Mon Aug 31 03:17:58 1998:

SHALL WE DANCE? (A) -- The focus on body-movement in this movie
eventually sensitizes you to the movements of the characters to
the degree that you start to think they're *all* dancing, all
the time.  Then it hits you that they *are* all dancing, all the
time, from the positioning and repositioning of a group of
workers in an office to something as simple as two people meeting
on a staircase and doing the "After you.  No, after *you*" dance.
The device transforms what is essentially a sentimental made-
for-TV movie, suitable for Hallmark specials, into a brilliantly
inventive piece of work.  Quite amazing.  Above all, the main
character's transformation from inhibited businessman to daring
ballroom dancer is made completely believable by the actor who
plays him.  The thought of coordinating the dancee steps with
the emotions is straight out of 1950s Hollywood.


#240 of 290 by tpryan on Mon Aug 31 21:52:36 1998:

(Studio) 54 -- Oh, so that was Mike Meyers in there?  I was pleased
that the film did not end up like a Saturday Night Rerun skit that 
goes on for 90 minutes.  In fact, the Mike Meyers persona disappeared
and his character prevailed.


#241 of 290 by fitz on Wed Sep 2 23:21:36 1998:

I rate Shall We Dance B+.  The pace could have been picked up slightly, but
I thought the casting was really something.  I wish and wish that directors
would give more time to the feet of dancers.  The theme of marital infidelity
was handled so differently from the recent portrayal of adulterous
relationships as signifiers of something passionate and desireable.


#242 of 290 by omni on Thu Sep 3 07:47:50 1998:

 Grosse Pointe Blank- 2 1/2 stars.
    Caught this one on cable tonight, and I must say that the first part of
the movie was quirky and funny, but then it denegrated into nothingness. I
was disappointed in the sets, and locations, (remember, I AM from the east
side of Detroit, and this particular area was home to me for a lot of years.)
Cusak was good, and so was Driver. I did like the last part, though and 
I guess I would recommend seeing it, but for God's sake, see it for a 
buck or on cable.


#243 of 290 by senna on Thu Sep 3 15:28:42 1998:

Saw Good Morning Vietnam for the first time yesterday.  Quite entertaining,
and it actually made me think about the conflict as well.  Some good points.


#244 of 290 by omni on Thu Sep 3 18:38:54 1998:

 Good Morning, Vietnam is one of my all time favorite movies. It's even better
if you're a fan of Barry Levinson.


#245 of 290 by senna on Fri Sep 4 03:47:49 1998:

It's a superb example of the brilliance of Robin Williams.  In one movie he's
both hilarious comedic one-liner actor and a dramatic artist at the same time.



#246 of 290 by omni on Fri Sep 4 05:23:09 1998:

 I agree. Williams has spectacular range. 



#247 of 290 by md on Sun Sep 6 02:10:57 1998:

Some recent rentals:

TITANIC (still a solid A) -- I remember thinking when I saw it in the 
theater what a sumptuously visual movie this is, and that there are 
images in it I'll never forget: the ship upending and breaking in two 
and the stern falling hugely back into the sea; the shelves of 
never-used plates tilting and sending their contents to the hard floor; 
Kate Winslet on her back on a drifting headboard, pale and frozen, 
looking up at the stars and singing a little song at them.  There is one 
image that tops them all, though: seen from below, the dead body of a 
young woman hangs suspended in the submerged ballroom, which is still 
lit from above by the ship's lights, her limbs sprawling gracefully, her 
voluminous and complex nightgown floating around her.  Where have I seen 
that before?  A Victorian Ophelia?  A Renaissance angel?  Anyway, it's a 
movie made by someone with an artist's eye for such things.  To think of 
throwing such an image into the film -- the sheer heedless extravagance. 
Cameron loves details.  [When I was a kid, my favorite cartoonist was a 
man named Wallace Wood, and what I loved most about his drawings was the 
fantastic amount of detail he filled them with, all more or less 
functional.  You could spend fifteen minutes on each frame.  That sort 
of thing.]

SENSELESS (C) -- It starts off with a potentially hilarious premise, and 
it does run with it for a while, but then it kind of falls apart.  The 
tacked-on ending, wherein the main character, who accomplishes all kinds 
of miracles due to a sense-enhancing drug, is required to spend a year 
earning the job of his dreams the hard and normal way, is, 
paradoxically, as phony as can be.

DREAM FOR AN INSOMNIAC (B+) -- So self-consciously aimed at the 20-30 
generation that I almost felt as if I were eavesdropping.  Jennifer 
Aniston is stuck playing a version of Rachel again, as she seems to be 
stuck in all her movies.  (There's even a Central Perk-y coffee shop 
where everyone works or meets.)  The movie does grab your attention, 
though, and eventually you actually start to care about the characters. 
I guess I should admit the ending is "contrived" or "too pat."  Didn't 
bother me.  Plus, Ione Skye is adorable.  (For you above-it-all 
cineastes, Rachel is the character Jennifer Aniston plays on the NBC 
Thursday night sitcom "Friends," and Central Perk is the name of the 
coffee house she used to work at.  It used to be one of my favorite
TV shows, but it's become an institution and lost its edge.  It still
has its moments, though.)


#248 of 290 by eieio on Sun Sep 6 03:57:04 1998:

The one good thing about "Senseless": It's most assuredly the last time David
Spade will play a snobby college kid.


#249 of 290 by md on Mon Sep 7 00:02:16 1998:

SLUMS OF BEVERLY HILLS (C) -- Cute is places, but it left me with
a "So what?" impression when it was over.  Marisa Tomei was qiute
good.  Maybe there's life after Vinnie after all.


#250 of 290 by remmers on Mon Sep 7 01:39:29 1998:

[Re resp:247 - omigosh, you're a Wally Wood fan? Me too. Loved his
stuff in Mad Magazine, Weird Science/Fantasy, and other E.C. comics.]


#251 of 290 by md on Mon Sep 7 02:23:13 1998:

[He was amazing.  My favorite Mad 'toonists were Wood, Kurtzman,
Elder and Davis, in that order.  I bet James Cameron's a Wallace
Wood fan, too.]

THE BORROWERS (B-) -- It kinda put me to sleep.  I loved the way
it inhabited its own weird little world.  It reminded me a bit
of Altman's POPEYE (A) in that one respect.  

Re SLUMS again: Whenever I see Alan Arkin in a movie like this,
I think, "What a waste."  But then I start trying to think of
anything he ever did that wasn't a waste and I come up with
WAIT UNTIL DARK (A).  Why do I think he's so good, when he's
obviously so bad?  Are there some choice movies he's done that
I'm forgetting?


#252 of 290 by omni on Mon Sep 7 04:45:19 1998:

  Michael, are you forgetting such classic Arkin films as Big Trouble, and
The In-Laws? Arkin's big thing is being Joe Normal, who is just waiting for
some outside influence to muck it up.


#253 of 290 by katie on Mon Sep 7 04:46:21 1998:

I liked him in "Popi."  What was the name of the one he was in with Sally
Kellerman?


#254 of 290 by krj on Mon Sep 7 05:38:44 1998:

THE PEACEMAKER:  Essentially an average James Bond movie, minus the 
humor.  George Clooney was fun to watch.
I was glad that Clooney and Nicole Kidman were too busy saving the 
world from stolen nuclear weapons to have time to leap into bed.
A little on the slow side, but worth a rental if you are into the 
nuclear-weapons-thriller thing.


#255 of 290 by remmers on Mon Sep 7 11:16:27 1998:

Current rental:

ZERO EFFECT: Quirky mystery comedy with Bill Pullman as a modern-day
eccentric, reclusive private investigator (with traits borrowed from
Sherlock Holmes, Hercule Poirot, Nero Wolfe, etc), Ben Stiller as his
perpetually exasperated front man, Ryan O'Neal as the rich client, and
Kim Dickens as an object first of investigation, then affection.
Cleverly written and directed by Jake Kasdan (son of director Lawrence
Kasdan of "The Big Chill", "Accidental Tourist", "Grand Canyon", etc)
with likeable performances all around. I enjoyed this a lot.
Recommended.


#256 of 290 by jazz on Mon Sep 7 12:09:54 1998:

        I rented that too earlier last week, because I'd heard the reviews.
It was intellectually interesting, and I found myself pulled along by the
desire to see how the story turned out, but I found the movie itself 
emotionally uninvolving.


#257 of 290 by md on Mon Sep 7 12:33:29 1998:

Pullman and Stiller seemed miscast to me.  The movie suffered from
the "Ben Stiller Curse," which seems to have lifted recently in
Something About Mary.  For a while there, Stiller was the thinking
man's Corey Feldman.

The Arkin / Kellerman movie was Last of the Red Hot Lovers.  Arkin
was in GLENGARRY GLEN ROSS (A), although he might not be the name
that springs to mind when you think of that movie.


#258 of 290 by mary on Mon Sep 7 13:48:41 1998:

I first noticed (and enjoyed) Arkin's quirky style in
Catch 22.  He was perfectly cast.


#259 of 290 by md on Mon Sep 7 16:27:22 1998:

THE APOSTLE (A) -- Robert Duvall is just amazing in this movie.
Granted, the Oscars are more for entertainment than anything
else, but still, I'll never understand why he didn't win for
this role.  


#260 of 290 by remmers on Mon Sep 7 19:04:18 1998:

Re resp:256 - "Zero Effect" is definitely on the cerebral side.
But I found myself interested in the characters and their
motivations.


#261 of 290 by lilmo on Mon Sep 7 20:22:03 1998:

Re #259:  The Oscars go mainly to films that make a LOT of money.  Whether
this is b/c the best performances bring in lots of paying customers, or b/c
the Accademy is honoring "what works", or b/c they "hop on the bandwagon",
I have no idea.


#262 of 290 by beeswing on Tue Sep 8 04:52:40 1998:

THE MAN IN THE IRON MASK (B-), starring boychild Leonardo DiCaprio, and 
freaky Gerard Depardieu. The movie holds your attention. Humor is 
frequent but is quite bawdy and crass in some places. DiCaprio does not 
do it for me, sorry. He looks like he is 17. Some excellent 
cinematography. I liked it ok, but it didn't change my life or anything.


#263 of 290 by md on Tue Sep 8 10:58:49 1998:

This item is from the Zentertainment webzine:

Legendary director Akira Kurosawa died in Tokyo Sunday, 
at age 77, from a stroke. Kurosawa leaves behind such 
classics as THE SEVEN SAMURAI, RASHOMON, RAN, 
IKIRU, YOJIMBO (Sergio Leone's inspiration for FISTFULL 
OF DOLLARS), and THE HIDDEN FORTRESS, (George 
Lucas' inspiration for STAR WARS).


#264 of 290 by remmers on Tue Sep 8 14:48:40 1998:

Yep, Kurosawa's death is a great loss to world cinema.

His historical Samurai epics are his best-known works, but I am fond 
also of some of Kurosawa's "small" films with a contemporary 
setting: "Stray Dog", "High and Low", and "Rhapsody in August".


#265 of 290 by lilmo on Wed Sep 9 01:25:02 1998:

RASHOMON is, I believe, considered his masterpiece.  It shows the same events
through multiple points of view, and is considered the quintessential piece
of that style.  Any art that has a vaguely similar MO has the word
"RASHOMON-like" in 100% of its reviews.  Reviewers ignoring this rule are
banished from journalism.  :-)


#266 of 290 by maeve on Wed Sep 9 04:41:59 1998:

Ever After: better than expected, if you don't expect much..good peasant
costumes, german puff and slash!) but a lot of period mixing with everyone
else...all in all...amusing, and with a very silly trip to meijers afterwards
with friends I haven'tseen in a while, worth the ticket price


#267 of 290 by johnnie on Tue Sep 15 13:42:54 1998:

For those of  you who might be interested:

Movie director Peter Bogdanovich premiers the Toledo/Lucas County Public 
Library's 1998-1999 Authors! Authors! season on Tuesday, September 22, 
1998 at 7 p.m. in the Great Hall of the Stranahan Theatre on 
Heatherdowns Boulevard. He is not only the recipient of film critic 
awards and Oscar nominations, but is also the author of "Who the Devil 
Made It," an intimate look at filmmaking through a collection of 
interviews with sixteen legendary film directors. He has also written 
nine other books,including "This is Orson Welles" and "John Ford." His 
own role as a movie director has included "The Last Picture Show," 
"What^Rs Up, Doc," "Paper Moon" and "Mask." His presentation includes 
clips from his own films and those of the directors in his book, as well 
as his dead-on impersonations of everyone from Alfred Hitchcock to Cary 
Grant.

Tickets for Authors! Authors! programs cost $8. The doors of the Great 
Hall open at 6:15 p.m. For more information, call the Library at 
(419)259-5207.


#268 of 290 by iggy on Fri Sep 18 00:58:09 1998:

i saw 'rhapsody in august' and really liked it, despite rechard gere.


#269 of 290 by bjorn on Fri Sep 18 05:17:06 1998:

What's the name of the movie that's coming out about a man searching for his
wife after he himself has died?  I think it stars Robin Williams.  I think
that the background for that movie kicked ass when I saw the preview before
Ever After started.


#270 of 290 by anderyn on Fri Sep 18 13:06:50 1998:

We saw "Kiki's Delivery Service" last night -- three thumbs up. The
Prices loved it. 


#271 of 290 by maeve on Fri Sep 18 16:08:50 1998:

 I saw 'The Captain's paradise' with Alec Guinness, it was very..old, but it
was mildly amusing for it to be better than packing..


#272 of 290 by katie on Fri Sep 18 21:18:10 1998:

Re 269: "What Dreams May Come."  It was supposed to be out in August, now
apparently it will open Oct 2.  I bought the book (same author as "Some-
where In Time) and on the cover it says ~THE BOOK MADE INTO THE HIT MOVIE" even
thought there`s no way they could yet call it a hit yet. Ah, marketing.


#273 of 290 by bjorn on Sat Sep 19 05:16:56 1998:

Cool.  Thanks for the info.  Yeah, marketers are dumb.


#274 of 290 by anjon on Sat Sep 19 07:11:13 1998:

Well guys you alll are saying of bullshit movies.I think thats because you
havent seen "There is something about Mary" or "The mask of Zorro".I hope
whoever has seen it liked it very mich.I am great fan of Salma Hayek.Can
someone please send me some photo from Salma 's Gallery


#275 of 290 by remmers on Sat Sep 19 10:25:36 1998:

Haven't had time for movies lately. Two on my "must see" list though are
"Rounders" and "Touch of Evil".


#276 of 290 by eieio on Sun Sep 20 01:10:49 1998:

re 273:
Hey.


#277 of 290 by danr on Sun Sep 20 01:24:39 1998:

Silvia and I just saw "The Avengers."  It really is as bad as they say.


#278 of 290 by bjorn on Sun Sep 20 05:10:18 1998:

I rented and watched Dragonheart - and I really liked it.


#279 of 290 by md on Sun Sep 20 12:45:18 1998:

Rented HUSH (C) -- I think Jessica Lange might be too subtle
an actor for this role.  It was kind of painful watching her
trying to file the edges off her talent.  I wish she'd make more
good movies, but I guess even she has to pay her bills.  Something
else that occurred to me while I was watching it was that Gwyneth
Paltrow is really beautiful and has some good moves, so how come
I don't remember ever noticing it before?  When we tried to think
of a single movie we'd ever seen her in, we came up with EMMA (B).
But that's impossible, no?  She's a famous celebrity, you see her
everywhere.  But a quick check of our 1,000-page little fat paperback listing
of movies and actors found no mention of Paltrow.  To try  and shake off this
weird unreal feeling I was having that Paltrow was one of those "famous for
being famous" people, I checked IMDB and came up with 21 movies, most of which
I'd never heard of.  Even in the familiar ones, she had bit parts -- "Young
Wendy" in HOOK (C), for example -- which explains her absence from the
1,000-page book. Weird.


#280 of 290 by mary on Sun Sep 20 13:43:03 1998:

Gwyneth Paltrow was in the recent film "A Perfect Murder".  Again,
she was pretty enough to look at but the apartment's decor stole
most scenes.

When I look at her I think of her mother, Blythe Danner, one
of my favorite all-time actors who I wish had more screen
time (along with Sissy Spacek and Jane Alexander).


#281 of 290 by scott on Sun Sep 20 13:45:52 1998:

Recent theater viewings:  Saving Private Ryan (WOW!), The Truman Show (Very
cool).  Rentals:  Mary SHelley's Frankenstein (fast forward to see how it
ends), Beavis and Butthead Do America (pretty good)


#282 of 290 by md on Sun Sep 20 13:49:56 1998:

Re #280: Yep, Gwyneth does get her looks from her mom, who is 
still gorgeous, imho. 

I liked Beavis and Butthead Do America, too, which I realize
disqualifies me from having any of my opinions in this item
taken seriously.  Sigh.


#283 of 290 by mary on Sun Sep 20 14:31:24 1998:

Oh, wasn't Paltrow is the recent "Great Expectations"?
Not a bad rental. 


#284 of 290 by remmers on Sun Sep 20 16:19:35 1998:

Paltrow had a starring role in "Hard Eight", an excellent but largely
overlooked crime drama from a year or so ago.


#285 of 290 by scg on Sun Sep 20 18:54:41 1998:

I've seen a few movies lately that have really wow'd me, Saving Private Ryan,
Primary Colors, and Jerry McGwire.


#286 of 290 by md on Mon Sep 21 02:36:55 1998:

Recent rentals: 

WILD THINGS (B+) -- One of those twisty-turny plots where your list
of suspects is supposed to include just about all the major characters
before it's over.  After a while, when two characters who haven't
seemed to have any connection up to this point find themselve alone
together, you expect them to start trading hastily whispered comments, 
and half the time, they do.  One really nice thing about this movie 
is, the other half of the time, they don't.  This gets *so* complex
that they have to include a series of explanatory flashbacks during
the closing credits.

INCOGNITO (B-) -- The set up was fascinating, but the ensuing chase
scenes, trial scenes and resolution scenes weren't as good.  Nice
location shots, however.  The main character is an art forger, played
by Jason Patric, who is a very understated Duchovnian or Cloonian
actor.  His father is played by Rod Steiger, who chews up all the
scenery.  Could happen, I guess.


#287 of 290 by jep on Mon Sep 21 14:46:55 1998:

We went to see Knock-Off this weekend because aandrea likes Jean-Claude 
Van Damme a lot.  There were 4 other attendees at this movie, so I guess 
I can say there are some people with taste in Ann Arbor.  We were the 
only ones in the theater at the end.

The plot was such that, to enjoy it, it would have been better if we'd 
known the person who wrote it, in hopes they could give us an 
explanation.  Neither of us could follow what was going on.  Usually she 
can explain things for me, the way any normal person explains things for 
their retarded friends with whom they attend movies.  Maybe we're both 
retarded.

There were some weird special effects, which helped to confuse the plot 
even more, but had no other impact on the movie.  This movie gave me a 
lot of respect for the craft of using special effects to contribute to 
the movie -- a thing which was done in Titanic, but not, unfortunately,  
in Knock-Off.

I would say this movie didn't have any redeeming features.  Andrea 
enjoyed seeing Van Damme in his bikini briefs.


#288 of 290 by bmoran on Tue Sep 22 14:17:14 1998:

While channel surfing late last week, I came across a B&W movie, featuring
Anthony Quinn, drinking wine, abusing a young woman, speaking Italian.
When they finally went to a commercial, they said La Strada will be right
back. Much too late to watch the rest, what I did see was wonderful, and
have added it to my list of 'would like to sees'. 
While visiting with my in-laws over the weekend, I caught the last hour of
House of Cards on the Bravo channel. The ending was pretty good, and the
camouflage scen was great! I wonder how it begins, tho?


#289 of 290 by remmers on Wed Sep 23 13:27:33 1998:

"La Strada" is one of Federico Fellini's most admired films. It stars
Anthony Quinn, Richard Basehart, and Giuiletta Masina (Fellini's wife).
Widely available in video rental stores.


#290 of 290 by bmoran on Wed Sep 23 14:15:12 1998:

Thanks, I'll check it out!


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