Grex Cinema Conference

Item 21: The Summer Movie Critique Item

Entered by omni on Wed Jun 24 03:59:22 1998:

64 new of 290 responses total.


#227 of 290 by beeswing on Fri Aug 28 02:58:09 1998:

Definitely! I love how Ricki is supposed to be unattractive... she's 
big, with even bigger hair, and gets the Elvis look-alike, the guy all 
the girls are crazy for. Gotta love the Hefty Hideaway plugs. I laugh 
every time I think of Deborah Harry's hairdo that concealed the bomb.
And Sonny Bono could still be married to Cher for all I care now, he 
has my undying devotion for being in that film. ::Pause for moment of 
silence::


#228 of 290 by happyboy on Fri Aug 28 03:34:56 1998:

hah ha! i named my border collie for the owner of Hefty Hideaway!
Mister Pinky.


#229 of 290 by krj on Sat Aug 29 01:31:09 1998:

An earlier cinematic version of the sinking of the Titanic, 
A NIGHT TO REMEMBER from 1958, is being broadcast on the 
cable channel American Movie Classics at 0200 Eastern
Friday night/Saturday morning.  There may be other 
broadcasts.
 
I'm watching an early broadcast now; it's an interesting 
comparison to the James Cameron film.


#230 of 290 by beeswing on Sat Aug 29 03:15:34 1998:

My fave line from Hairspray, via Divine as the mother:

"Wilbur... it's the times. They're a-changin'.
Somethin's blowin' in the wind...
Fetch me my diet pill, would you hon?"


#231 of 290 by maeve on Sat Aug 29 05:15:12 1998:

The Governess was rather good, pretty, interesting, and left us with some
research inteh costume area to do..


#232 of 290 by omni on Sat Aug 29 07:20:34 1998:

  9 am on AMC-- Sullivan's Travels. DON'T MISS IT!! This film must be seen
by all who are serious about movies and film. Seeing will change you for the
better. It is so good, that Larry Kasdan wove a reference into Grand Canyon,
not that GC was anything to write to Mom about. ;)


#233 of 290 by mary on Sat Aug 29 14:03:52 1998:

"The Hanging Garden" is a disturbing film with an unusual
story line - what would happen if someone hadn't committed
suicide?  I'm still thinking about it but I already know
the choice to die wasn't necessarily wrong. 

It's a Canadian film now showing at The Michigan.


#234 of 290 by bruin on Sat Aug 29 18:16:32 1998:

RE #233 Wasn't that similar to Jimmy Stewart's character in _It's A 
Wonderful Life_ wishing he never was born?


#235 of 290 by drew on Sat Aug 29 18:24:00 1998:

Sounds like this one supports the opposite point of view?


#236 of 290 by mary on Sat Aug 29 18:26:39 1998:

It's not as easy as opposite points of view.


#237 of 290 by scott on Sun Aug 30 14:09:28 1998:

"The Fifth Element" -- A

Wish I'd seen this earlier.  Very funny sci-fi, made by a French director (but
it's all in English, Bruce Willis, etc).  The non-typical visual look and
costumes are incredible, esp. the way details are revealed.  In one part, we
see the "bad guy thugs" wearing typical sci-fi bad guy thugs type costumes,
basically another adaption of the black jacket look.  Later on, we see them
walking away from the camera, revealing that the uniforms include black rubber
shorts with hairy legs!  Very funny, and this sort of thing happens a number
of times.  I'd rate this up there with Terry Gilliam's "Brazil" or the
Syvester Stallone movie "Demolition Man".  (Demolition Man *was* a typical
Stallone action film... except that it was also a very funny sci-fi film at
the same time, with lots of creative detail)


#238 of 290 by maeve on Mon Aug 31 00:31:26 1998:

the costumes were Jean-Paul Gautier having *way* too much fun..it was cute


#239 of 290 by md on Mon Aug 31 03:17:58 1998:

SHALL WE DANCE? (A) -- The focus on body-movement in this movie
eventually sensitizes you to the movements of the characters to
the degree that you start to think they're *all* dancing, all
the time.  Then it hits you that they *are* all dancing, all the
time, from the positioning and repositioning of a group of
workers in an office to something as simple as two people meeting
on a staircase and doing the "After you.  No, after *you*" dance.
The device transforms what is essentially a sentimental made-
for-TV movie, suitable for Hallmark specials, into a brilliantly
inventive piece of work.  Quite amazing.  Above all, the main
character's transformation from inhibited businessman to daring
ballroom dancer is made completely believable by the actor who
plays him.  The thought of coordinating the dancee steps with
the emotions is straight out of 1950s Hollywood.


#240 of 290 by tpryan on Mon Aug 31 21:52:36 1998:

(Studio) 54 -- Oh, so that was Mike Meyers in there?  I was pleased
that the film did not end up like a Saturday Night Rerun skit that 
goes on for 90 minutes.  In fact, the Mike Meyers persona disappeared
and his character prevailed.


#241 of 290 by fitz on Wed Sep 2 23:21:36 1998:

I rate Shall We Dance B+.  The pace could have been picked up slightly, but
I thought the casting was really something.  I wish and wish that directors
would give more time to the feet of dancers.  The theme of marital infidelity
was handled so differently from the recent portrayal of adulterous
relationships as signifiers of something passionate and desireable.


#242 of 290 by omni on Thu Sep 3 07:47:50 1998:

 Grosse Pointe Blank- 2 1/2 stars.
    Caught this one on cable tonight, and I must say that the first part of
the movie was quirky and funny, but then it denegrated into nothingness. I
was disappointed in the sets, and locations, (remember, I AM from the east
side of Detroit, and this particular area was home to me for a lot of years.)
Cusak was good, and so was Driver. I did like the last part, though and 
I guess I would recommend seeing it, but for God's sake, see it for a 
buck or on cable.


#243 of 290 by senna on Thu Sep 3 15:28:42 1998:

Saw Good Morning Vietnam for the first time yesterday.  Quite entertaining,
and it actually made me think about the conflict as well.  Some good points.


#244 of 290 by omni on Thu Sep 3 18:38:54 1998:

 Good Morning, Vietnam is one of my all time favorite movies. It's even better
if you're a fan of Barry Levinson.


#245 of 290 by senna on Fri Sep 4 03:47:49 1998:

It's a superb example of the brilliance of Robin Williams.  In one movie he's
both hilarious comedic one-liner actor and a dramatic artist at the same time.



#246 of 290 by omni on Fri Sep 4 05:23:09 1998:

 I agree. Williams has spectacular range. 



#247 of 290 by md on Sun Sep 6 02:10:57 1998:

Some recent rentals:

TITANIC (still a solid A) -- I remember thinking when I saw it in the 
theater what a sumptuously visual movie this is, and that there are 
images in it I'll never forget: the ship upending and breaking in two 
and the stern falling hugely back into the sea; the shelves of 
never-used plates tilting and sending their contents to the hard floor; 
Kate Winslet on her back on a drifting headboard, pale and frozen, 
looking up at the stars and singing a little song at them.  There is one 
image that tops them all, though: seen from below, the dead body of a 
young woman hangs suspended in the submerged ballroom, which is still 
lit from above by the ship's lights, her limbs sprawling gracefully, her 
voluminous and complex nightgown floating around her.  Where have I seen 
that before?  A Victorian Ophelia?  A Renaissance angel?  Anyway, it's a 
movie made by someone with an artist's eye for such things.  To think of 
throwing such an image into the film -- the sheer heedless extravagance. 
Cameron loves details.  [When I was a kid, my favorite cartoonist was a 
man named Wallace Wood, and what I loved most about his drawings was the 
fantastic amount of detail he filled them with, all more or less 
functional.  You could spend fifteen minutes on each frame.  That sort 
of thing.]

SENSELESS (C) -- It starts off with a potentially hilarious premise, and 
it does run with it for a while, but then it kind of falls apart.  The 
tacked-on ending, wherein the main character, who accomplishes all kinds 
of miracles due to a sense-enhancing drug, is required to spend a year 
earning the job of his dreams the hard and normal way, is, 
paradoxically, as phony as can be.

DREAM FOR AN INSOMNIAC (B+) -- So self-consciously aimed at the 20-30 
generation that I almost felt as if I were eavesdropping.  Jennifer 
Aniston is stuck playing a version of Rachel again, as she seems to be 
stuck in all her movies.  (There's even a Central Perk-y coffee shop 
where everyone works or meets.)  The movie does grab your attention, 
though, and eventually you actually start to care about the characters. 
I guess I should admit the ending is "contrived" or "too pat."  Didn't 
bother me.  Plus, Ione Skye is adorable.  (For you above-it-all 
cineastes, Rachel is the character Jennifer Aniston plays on the NBC 
Thursday night sitcom "Friends," and Central Perk is the name of the 
coffee house she used to work at.  It used to be one of my favorite
TV shows, but it's become an institution and lost its edge.  It still
has its moments, though.)


#248 of 290 by eieio on Sun Sep 6 03:57:04 1998:

The one good thing about "Senseless": It's most assuredly the last time David
Spade will play a snobby college kid.


#249 of 290 by md on Mon Sep 7 00:02:16 1998:

SLUMS OF BEVERLY HILLS (C) -- Cute is places, but it left me with
a "So what?" impression when it was over.  Marisa Tomei was qiute
good.  Maybe there's life after Vinnie after all.


#250 of 290 by remmers on Mon Sep 7 01:39:29 1998:

[Re resp:247 - omigosh, you're a Wally Wood fan? Me too. Loved his
stuff in Mad Magazine, Weird Science/Fantasy, and other E.C. comics.]


#251 of 290 by md on Mon Sep 7 02:23:13 1998:

[He was amazing.  My favorite Mad 'toonists were Wood, Kurtzman,
Elder and Davis, in that order.  I bet James Cameron's a Wallace
Wood fan, too.]

THE BORROWERS (B-) -- It kinda put me to sleep.  I loved the way
it inhabited its own weird little world.  It reminded me a bit
of Altman's POPEYE (A) in that one respect.  

Re SLUMS again: Whenever I see Alan Arkin in a movie like this,
I think, "What a waste."  But then I start trying to think of
anything he ever did that wasn't a waste and I come up with
WAIT UNTIL DARK (A).  Why do I think he's so good, when he's
obviously so bad?  Are there some choice movies he's done that
I'm forgetting?


#252 of 290 by omni on Mon Sep 7 04:45:19 1998:

  Michael, are you forgetting such classic Arkin films as Big Trouble, and
The In-Laws? Arkin's big thing is being Joe Normal, who is just waiting for
some outside influence to muck it up.


#253 of 290 by katie on Mon Sep 7 04:46:21 1998:

I liked him in "Popi."  What was the name of the one he was in with Sally
Kellerman?


#254 of 290 by krj on Mon Sep 7 05:38:44 1998:

THE PEACEMAKER:  Essentially an average James Bond movie, minus the 
humor.  George Clooney was fun to watch.
I was glad that Clooney and Nicole Kidman were too busy saving the 
world from stolen nuclear weapons to have time to leap into bed.
A little on the slow side, but worth a rental if you are into the 
nuclear-weapons-thriller thing.


#255 of 290 by remmers on Mon Sep 7 11:16:27 1998:

Current rental:

ZERO EFFECT: Quirky mystery comedy with Bill Pullman as a modern-day
eccentric, reclusive private investigator (with traits borrowed from
Sherlock Holmes, Hercule Poirot, Nero Wolfe, etc), Ben Stiller as his
perpetually exasperated front man, Ryan O'Neal as the rich client, and
Kim Dickens as an object first of investigation, then affection.
Cleverly written and directed by Jake Kasdan (son of director Lawrence
Kasdan of "The Big Chill", "Accidental Tourist", "Grand Canyon", etc)
with likeable performances all around. I enjoyed this a lot.
Recommended.


#256 of 290 by jazz on Mon Sep 7 12:09:54 1998:

        I rented that too earlier last week, because I'd heard the reviews.
It was intellectually interesting, and I found myself pulled along by the
desire to see how the story turned out, but I found the movie itself 
emotionally uninvolving.


#257 of 290 by md on Mon Sep 7 12:33:29 1998:

Pullman and Stiller seemed miscast to me.  The movie suffered from
the "Ben Stiller Curse," which seems to have lifted recently in
Something About Mary.  For a while there, Stiller was the thinking
man's Corey Feldman.

The Arkin / Kellerman movie was Last of the Red Hot Lovers.  Arkin
was in GLENGARRY GLEN ROSS (A), although he might not be the name
that springs to mind when you think of that movie.


#258 of 290 by mary on Mon Sep 7 13:48:41 1998:

I first noticed (and enjoyed) Arkin's quirky style in
Catch 22.  He was perfectly cast.


#259 of 290 by md on Mon Sep 7 16:27:22 1998:

THE APOSTLE (A) -- Robert Duvall is just amazing in this movie.
Granted, the Oscars are more for entertainment than anything
else, but still, I'll never understand why he didn't win for
this role.  


#260 of 290 by remmers on Mon Sep 7 19:04:18 1998:

Re resp:256 - "Zero Effect" is definitely on the cerebral side.
But I found myself interested in the characters and their
motivations.


#261 of 290 by lilmo on Mon Sep 7 20:22:03 1998:

Re #259:  The Oscars go mainly to films that make a LOT of money.  Whether
this is b/c the best performances bring in lots of paying customers, or b/c
the Accademy is honoring "what works", or b/c they "hop on the bandwagon",
I have no idea.


#262 of 290 by beeswing on Tue Sep 8 04:52:40 1998:

THE MAN IN THE IRON MASK (B-), starring boychild Leonardo DiCaprio, and 
freaky Gerard Depardieu. The movie holds your attention. Humor is 
frequent but is quite bawdy and crass in some places. DiCaprio does not 
do it for me, sorry. He looks like he is 17. Some excellent 
cinematography. I liked it ok, but it didn't change my life or anything.


#263 of 290 by md on Tue Sep 8 10:58:49 1998:

This item is from the Zentertainment webzine:

Legendary director Akira Kurosawa died in Tokyo Sunday, 
at age 77, from a stroke. Kurosawa leaves behind such 
classics as THE SEVEN SAMURAI, RASHOMON, RAN, 
IKIRU, YOJIMBO (Sergio Leone's inspiration for FISTFULL 
OF DOLLARS), and THE HIDDEN FORTRESS, (George 
Lucas' inspiration for STAR WARS).


#264 of 290 by remmers on Tue Sep 8 14:48:40 1998:

Yep, Kurosawa's death is a great loss to world cinema.

His historical Samurai epics are his best-known works, but I am fond 
also of some of Kurosawa's "small" films with a contemporary 
setting: "Stray Dog", "High and Low", and "Rhapsody in August".


#265 of 290 by lilmo on Wed Sep 9 01:25:02 1998:

RASHOMON is, I believe, considered his masterpiece.  It shows the same events
through multiple points of view, and is considered the quintessential piece
of that style.  Any art that has a vaguely similar MO has the word
"RASHOMON-like" in 100% of its reviews.  Reviewers ignoring this rule are
banished from journalism.  :-)


#266 of 290 by maeve on Wed Sep 9 04:41:59 1998:

Ever After: better than expected, if you don't expect much..good peasant
costumes, german puff and slash!) but a lot of period mixing with everyone
else...all in all...amusing, and with a very silly trip to meijers afterwards
with friends I haven'tseen in a while, worth the ticket price


#267 of 290 by johnnie on Tue Sep 15 13:42:54 1998:

For those of  you who might be interested:

Movie director Peter Bogdanovich premiers the Toledo/Lucas County Public 
Library's 1998-1999 Authors! Authors! season on Tuesday, September 22, 
1998 at 7 p.m. in the Great Hall of the Stranahan Theatre on 
Heatherdowns Boulevard. He is not only the recipient of film critic 
awards and Oscar nominations, but is also the author of "Who the Devil 
Made It," an intimate look at filmmaking through a collection of 
interviews with sixteen legendary film directors. He has also written 
nine other books,including "This is Orson Welles" and "John Ford." His 
own role as a movie director has included "The Last Picture Show," 
"What^Rs Up, Doc," "Paper Moon" and "Mask." His presentation includes 
clips from his own films and those of the directors in his book, as well 
as his dead-on impersonations of everyone from Alfred Hitchcock to Cary 
Grant.

Tickets for Authors! Authors! programs cost $8. The doors of the Great 
Hall open at 6:15 p.m. For more information, call the Library at 
(419)259-5207.


#268 of 290 by iggy on Fri Sep 18 00:58:09 1998:

i saw 'rhapsody in august' and really liked it, despite rechard gere.


#269 of 290 by bjorn on Fri Sep 18 05:17:06 1998:

What's the name of the movie that's coming out about a man searching for his
wife after he himself has died?  I think it stars Robin Williams.  I think
that the background for that movie kicked ass when I saw the preview before
Ever After started.


#270 of 290 by anderyn on Fri Sep 18 13:06:50 1998:

We saw "Kiki's Delivery Service" last night -- three thumbs up. The
Prices loved it. 


#271 of 290 by maeve on Fri Sep 18 16:08:50 1998:

 I saw 'The Captain's paradise' with Alec Guinness, it was very..old, but it
was mildly amusing for it to be better than packing..


#272 of 290 by katie on Fri Sep 18 21:18:10 1998:

Re 269: "What Dreams May Come."  It was supposed to be out in August, now
apparently it will open Oct 2.  I bought the book (same author as "Some-
where In Time) and on the cover it says ~THE BOOK MADE INTO THE HIT MOVIE" even
thought there`s no way they could yet call it a hit yet. Ah, marketing.


#273 of 290 by bjorn on Sat Sep 19 05:16:56 1998:

Cool.  Thanks for the info.  Yeah, marketers are dumb.


#274 of 290 by anjon on Sat Sep 19 07:11:13 1998:

Well guys you alll are saying of bullshit movies.I think thats because you
havent seen "There is something about Mary" or "The mask of Zorro".I hope
whoever has seen it liked it very mich.I am great fan of Salma Hayek.Can
someone please send me some photo from Salma 's Gallery


#275 of 290 by remmers on Sat Sep 19 10:25:36 1998:

Haven't had time for movies lately. Two on my "must see" list though are
"Rounders" and "Touch of Evil".


#276 of 290 by eieio on Sun Sep 20 01:10:49 1998:

re 273:
Hey.


#277 of 290 by danr on Sun Sep 20 01:24:39 1998:

Silvia and I just saw "The Avengers."  It really is as bad as they say.


#278 of 290 by bjorn on Sun Sep 20 05:10:18 1998:

I rented and watched Dragonheart - and I really liked it.


#279 of 290 by md on Sun Sep 20 12:45:18 1998:

Rented HUSH (C) -- I think Jessica Lange might be too subtle
an actor for this role.  It was kind of painful watching her
trying to file the edges off her talent.  I wish she'd make more
good movies, but I guess even she has to pay her bills.  Something
else that occurred to me while I was watching it was that Gwyneth
Paltrow is really beautiful and has some good moves, so how come
I don't remember ever noticing it before?  When we tried to think
of a single movie we'd ever seen her in, we came up with EMMA (B).
But that's impossible, no?  She's a famous celebrity, you see her
everywhere.  But a quick check of our 1,000-page little fat paperback listing
of movies and actors found no mention of Paltrow.  To try  and shake off this
weird unreal feeling I was having that Paltrow was one of those "famous for
being famous" people, I checked IMDB and came up with 21 movies, most of which
I'd never heard of.  Even in the familiar ones, she had bit parts -- "Young
Wendy" in HOOK (C), for example -- which explains her absence from the
1,000-page book. Weird.


#280 of 290 by mary on Sun Sep 20 13:43:03 1998:

Gwyneth Paltrow was in the recent film "A Perfect Murder".  Again,
she was pretty enough to look at but the apartment's decor stole
most scenes.

When I look at her I think of her mother, Blythe Danner, one
of my favorite all-time actors who I wish had more screen
time (along with Sissy Spacek and Jane Alexander).


#281 of 290 by scott on Sun Sep 20 13:45:52 1998:

Recent theater viewings:  Saving Private Ryan (WOW!), The Truman Show (Very
cool).  Rentals:  Mary SHelley's Frankenstein (fast forward to see how it
ends), Beavis and Butthead Do America (pretty good)


#282 of 290 by md on Sun Sep 20 13:49:56 1998:

Re #280: Yep, Gwyneth does get her looks from her mom, who is 
still gorgeous, imho. 

I liked Beavis and Butthead Do America, too, which I realize
disqualifies me from having any of my opinions in this item
taken seriously.  Sigh.


#283 of 290 by mary on Sun Sep 20 14:31:24 1998:

Oh, wasn't Paltrow is the recent "Great Expectations"?
Not a bad rental. 


#284 of 290 by remmers on Sun Sep 20 16:19:35 1998:

Paltrow had a starring role in "Hard Eight", an excellent but largely
overlooked crime drama from a year or so ago.


#285 of 290 by scg on Sun Sep 20 18:54:41 1998:

I've seen a few movies lately that have really wow'd me, Saving Private Ryan,
Primary Colors, and Jerry McGwire.


#286 of 290 by md on Mon Sep 21 02:36:55 1998:

Recent rentals: 

WILD THINGS (B+) -- One of those twisty-turny plots where your list
of suspects is supposed to include just about all the major characters
before it's over.  After a while, when two characters who haven't
seemed to have any connection up to this point find themselve alone
together, you expect them to start trading hastily whispered comments, 
and half the time, they do.  One really nice thing about this movie 
is, the other half of the time, they don't.  This gets *so* complex
that they have to include a series of explanatory flashbacks during
the closing credits.

INCOGNITO (B-) -- The set up was fascinating, but the ensuing chase
scenes, trial scenes and resolution scenes weren't as good.  Nice
location shots, however.  The main character is an art forger, played
by Jason Patric, who is a very understated Duchovnian or Cloonian
actor.  His father is played by Rod Steiger, who chews up all the
scenery.  Could happen, I guess.


#287 of 290 by jep on Mon Sep 21 14:46:55 1998:

We went to see Knock-Off this weekend because aandrea likes Jean-Claude 
Van Damme a lot.  There were 4 other attendees at this movie, so I guess 
I can say there are some people with taste in Ann Arbor.  We were the 
only ones in the theater at the end.

The plot was such that, to enjoy it, it would have been better if we'd 
known the person who wrote it, in hopes they could give us an 
explanation.  Neither of us could follow what was going on.  Usually she 
can explain things for me, the way any normal person explains things for 
their retarded friends with whom they attend movies.  Maybe we're both 
retarded.

There were some weird special effects, which helped to confuse the plot 
even more, but had no other impact on the movie.  This movie gave me a 
lot of respect for the craft of using special effects to contribute to 
the movie -- a thing which was done in Titanic, but not, unfortunately,  
in Knock-Off.

I would say this movie didn't have any redeeming features.  Andrea 
enjoyed seeing Van Damme in his bikini briefs.


#288 of 290 by bmoran on Tue Sep 22 14:17:14 1998:

While channel surfing late last week, I came across a B&W movie, featuring
Anthony Quinn, drinking wine, abusing a young woman, speaking Italian.
When they finally went to a commercial, they said La Strada will be right
back. Much too late to watch the rest, what I did see was wonderful, and
have added it to my list of 'would like to sees'. 
While visiting with my in-laws over the weekend, I caught the last hour of
House of Cards on the Bravo channel. The ending was pretty good, and the
camouflage scen was great! I wonder how it begins, tho?


#289 of 290 by remmers on Wed Sep 23 13:27:33 1998:

"La Strada" is one of Federico Fellini's most admired films. It stars
Anthony Quinn, Richard Basehart, and Giuiletta Masina (Fellini's wife).
Widely available in video rental stores.


#290 of 290 by bmoran on Wed Sep 23 14:15:12 1998:

Thanks, I'll check it out!


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