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Item 23: Furries

Entered by rlejeune on Mon Mar 18 21:31:48 2002:

36 new of 48 responses total.


#13 of 48 by phenix on Tue Mar 19 23:30:22 2002:

yay
sacrificial wimmin
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#14 of 48 by jazz on Tue Mar 19 23:31:27 2002:

        I've heard about the "furry" thing, but never met someone who was
actually into it.


#15 of 48 by jaklumen on Wed Mar 20 02:57:57 2002:

resp:7 nice way to put it.  Simple, short, to the point.


#16 of 48 by vidar on Wed Mar 20 05:40:49 2002:

I really didn't want to respond to this item, but I do know what "yiff" 
means.  It's furry-ese for "fuck".


#17 of 48 by rlejeune on Wed Mar 20 13:45:52 2002:

Well, i figure there are a lot more of use furries about, but few people will
admit to it openly. Anyway, just thought I would throw out a "different"
thread. ;) 


#18 of 48 by jazz on Thu Mar 21 06:20:08 2002:

        Allright, since you've brought it up.  What's a "furry" to you, and
what about it draws you to being one?


#19 of 48 by oval on Thu Mar 21 13:56:41 2002:

dont fuck teddybear!!!!!


#20 of 48 by flem on Thu Mar 21 15:19:33 2002:

But he wants it, oval.  Can't you hear his little moans of pleasure?


#21 of 48 by orinoco on Thu Mar 21 15:41:52 2002:

Those aren't moans of pleasure, they're squeaky chew-toy sounds.  jeez. 


#22 of 48 by rlejeune on Thu Mar 21 16:29:36 2002:

A furry is a dude or dudette that likes having sex with plush animals (giant
teddy bears and so on) and usually likes erotic roleplaying games where one
uses a furry character. Am not sure why it attracts me, but it does. Maybe I am
just a pervert. 


#23 of 48 by jazz on Thu Mar 21 23:35:31 2002:

        I'd known about the - is there a word here for giving something human
animal characteristics - bit, it's a common thread from mythology to
cartoons.  But I'd never heard about the giant teddy bear sex thing. 
Apparently Greg and Oval have;  I know I'll never look at one of those huge
plush prizes at Cedar Point the same way again.


#24 of 48 by phenix on Thu Mar 21 23:42:02 2002:

or you'll examine it for white spots first:


#25 of 48 by cyklone on Thu Mar 21 23:49:32 2002:

Re #23: Anthropomorphize?


#26 of 48 by jaklumen on Fri Mar 22 00:20:35 2002:

I think that's it, yeah.


#27 of 48 by oval on Fri Mar 22 01:26:18 2002:

i'd never heard of this sort of thing until this thread. i just keep picturing
the agora 'veal fucking' discussed earlier, and imagining undoing the seam
in poor teddy's bum and goin at it. is this related to wanting sex with actual
living animals? or only cute, cartoonish ones?


#28 of 48 by brighn on Fri Mar 22 02:39:57 2002:

"Anthropomorphise" means to give something human characteristics.
 
The most obvious corollary would be "zoomorphise," but that wouldn't just be
humans, that would be to give anything animal characteristics.


#29 of 48 by brighn on Fri Mar 22 02:44:05 2002:

I thought I'd heard the word before. Zoomorphism refers to Gods with animal
parts (particualarly common in Egypt and India):
SYLLABICATION: zo7o7mor7phism 
PRONUNCIATION:   z-mtrfzm 
NOUN: 1. Attribution of animal characteristics or qualities to a god. 2. Use
of animal forms in symbolism, literature, or graphic representation.  
(Bartleby.com/American Heritage Dictionary)


#30 of 48 by jazz on Fri Mar 22 04:03:45 2002:

        Zoomorphism.  Thanks, Paul, I knew I could count on you to back me up
on the linguistic angle.


#31 of 48 by vidar on Fri Mar 22 13:06:37 2002:

Funny, only part of that is what I know about furries.  Then again I 
have a skewed very point: the furries I learned from also happen to be 
infantilists.


#32 of 48 by phenix on Fri Mar 22 13:23:26 2002:

well there's always furrymuck


#33 of 48 by rlejeune on Fri Mar 22 16:28:20 2002:

Most furries aren't actually zoophiles (the guys who like real live animals).
You can see one of us in action at: www.ratatak.com/bizarre/?show=MVC-066S.jpg
:)


#34 of 48 by brighn on Fri Mar 22 17:06:11 2002:

I've heard of a distinction made between zoophiles and bestialists. The former
have intimate relationships with animals, with or without sex (a zoophile I
knew was in love with a spayed dog, and wouldn't have sex with her because
of her condition, out of reespect to her); the latter don't have emotional
ties, they just like to fuck non-humans.


#35 of 48 by flem on Fri Mar 22 18:17:23 2002:

I've known about the concept of furries for a long time, but somehow I always
associated it with, like, anthropomorphic sci-fi aliens who happened to be
(at least partially) covered in fur, rather than plush toys.  Maybe I just
read the wrong bad fantasy novels growing up. 


#36 of 48 by rlejeune on Fri Mar 22 20:01:05 2002:

Some are into that. There are variations in furries as in everything else. And
yes, there is a distinction between zoophiles and bestialists, but most people
wouldn't get to the point where they are picky enough to pinpoint the
difference. 


#37 of 48 by jazz on Fri Mar 22 23:33:52 2002:

        Wow, that's cool.  I have another picture to send if I ever get stuck
in another escalating weirdness contest.

        I'd never heard about the plush toys angle, either.  I guess it's
kinda obvious now that you mention it, but it never occured to me.  I'd
always thought it was one of those more abstract fantasy-ish kinks.


#38 of 48 by vidar on Sat Mar 23 15:08:09 2002:

resp #35: That's more like what I heard.


#39 of 48 by jaklumen on Sun Mar 24 10:05:28 2002:

right.  The first time I'd heard anything about it was from one of my 
sisters (that would be Jen, Greg) who said there was a guy who had 
leopard spots tattooed onto his body, and was getting permanently 
affixed fangs.

I'm sure there is varying degrees of seriousness, and you never know 
where they may be (your city, maybe)?  I thought Eastern Washington 
was considered a cultural wasteland, but I remember finding out some 
gay porn star/swinger lived or traveled around my old hometown area.  
He had orange stripes lining his lower torso.  *shrug* don't think 
that qualifies him as a furry, but..


#40 of 48 by jazz on Sun Mar 24 14:28:43 2002:

        The guy you're thinking of calls himself Cat.  Original, huh?

        I never thought of him as a "furry" though;  he seemed more like one
of those extreme body modification enthusiasts, with a particular theme.  He
hasn't mentioned anything about being into other people who are catlike, or
animallike, in any of the inverviews that I've seen or read, and attributes
his passion to a tribal upbringing.


#41 of 48 by jaklumen on Mon Mar 25 02:23:35 2002:

Ah, okay.. 


#42 of 48 by jaklumen on Mon Mar 25 02:24:07 2002:

I forget what the porn star calls himself, tho.


#43 of 48 by jazz on Mon Mar 25 02:53:20 2002:

        What porn star?

        I was hoping someone'd take me up on the statement that Cat's just an
extreme body modifier or modern primitive and not a furry.  Shame.


#44 of 48 by jmsaul on Mon Mar 25 03:58:04 2002:

There's a Leopard guy who has his entire body tattooed, and lives somewhere
in the UK in a remote area.  As remote as you can get in the UK, that is.


#45 of 48 by jazz on Mon Mar 25 13:31:45 2002:

        Sounds like one of my old roommates. ;)


#46 of 48 by orinoco on Mon Mar 25 17:19:40 2002:

Re #43: I was thinking about it, but I realized most of my arguments would
be based on pretty shallow demographics.  My intuition runs something like:
Knows UNIX?  Furry.  Goes to punk shows?  Body mod enthusiast.  Does both?
Flip a coin.  

The "Leopard guy" was in the Guinness book of records when last I read it,
for having the greatest percentage of his skin tattooed.  He's got plain
yellow inked in between the spots, so there's ink covering upwards of 90% of
his skin.  I don't recall where he doesn't have it, although I suspect he
might have everything but eyelids and genitals covered.


#47 of 48 by jazz on Tue Mar 26 00:51:58 2002:

        I don't know.  There are a lot of punk, gothic, and industrial fans
in the technology sector - quite possibly because it's one of the only
decent-paying jobs where you can learn on your own and wear what you choose
- who would have to get all dark and stompy on the plush animal abusers.  My
guess is that anyone who's gone through that degree of body modification has
to be an enthusiast of it;  it's too great a thing to ask of someone who
isn't in love with the idea.


#48 of 48 by jaklumen on Tue Mar 26 01:20:56 2002:

resp:43  the other guy I was talking about with the tiger stripes.

I didn't feel like engaging in a debate about Cat's existence as a 
furry.. to wit, I don't have full definitions of what a furry is and 
isn't.  If he doesn't feel akin to mating with animals, or doesn't 
believe he *is* an animal partly in soul, that deflates a lot of the 
argument.  Sorry.


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