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Item 96: That Gosh Darn Mysterious Quote Item

Entered by remmers on Sun Dec 24 03:33:47 2000:

95 new of 98 responses total.


#4 of 98 by polygon on Sun Dec 24 04:14:24 2000:

This sounds like James Thurber.


#5 of 98 by gary on Sun Dec 24 07:48:05 2000:

eagar allen poe


#6 of 98 by md on Sun Dec 24 14:53:33 2000:

Could be anybody.  Edith Wharton?


#7 of 98 by remmers on Sun Dec 24 17:48:00 2000:

Not Thurber, not Poe, not Wharton.


#8 of 98 by davel on Sun Dec 24 21:25:42 2000:

James Branch Cabell?
I could swear I've read this thing, but I just don't know.  It's really a bit
unlike Cabell, but it could be his, & I can't think of anyone better to
guess.


#9 of 98 by remmers on Sun Dec 24 21:28:24 2000:

Not Cabell.

Hint:  19th century author.


#10 of 98 by wh on Mon Dec 25 04:56:37 2000:

Nathaniel Hawthorne.


#11 of 98 by bdh3 on Mon Dec 25 06:18:48 2000:

Tu Madre


#12 of 98 by remmers on Mon Dec 25 10:44:04 2000:

Not Hawthorne, not, um, Madre.

I'll post another quote by this author shortly.


#13 of 98 by davel on Mon Dec 25 21:34:12 2000:

John Buchan?


#14 of 98 by aruba on Tue Dec 26 03:40:51 2000:

Yay! The Mystery Quote is back!  I'll guess Emily Bronte.


#15 of 98 by remmers on Tue Dec 26 13:30:05 2000:

Not Buchan, not Bronte.  A further hint:  The author is male
and wrote two of the best-known short stories in the English
language.

Here's another quote:

    Hard by the farm-house was a vast barn, that might have
    served for a church; every window and crevice of which
    seemed bursting forth with the treasures of the farm; the
    flail was busily resounding within it from morning till
    night; swallows and martins skimmed twittering about the
    eaves; and rows of pigeons, some with one eye turned up, as
    if watching the weather, some with their heads under their
    wings, or buried in their bosoms, and others swelling, and
    cooing, and bowing about their dames, were enjoying the
    sunshine on the roof.  Sleek unwieldy porkers were grunting
    in the repose and abundance of their pens; whence sallied
    forth, now and then, troops of sucking pigs, as if to snuff
    the air.  A stately squadron of snowy geese were riding in
    an adjoining pond, convoying whole fleets of ducks,
    regiments of turkeys were gobbling through the farm-yard,
    and guinea fowls freeting about it, like ill-tempered
    housewives, with their peevish doscontented cry.  Before
    the barn-door strutted the gallant cock, that pattern of a
    husband, a warrior, and a fine gentleman, clapping his
    burnished wings, and crowing in the pride and gladness of
    his heart -- sometimes tearing up the earth with his feet,
    and then generously calling his ever-hungry family of wives
    and children to enjoy the rich morsel which he had
    discovered.



#16 of 98 by jor on Tue Dec 26 13:47:36 2000:

        I hesitate, because remmers may have made it way too easy now,
        plus I have no quotes to enter: Washington Irving.


#17 of 98 by remmers on Tue Dec 26 13:59:21 2000:

Hm, I wasn't aware I'd made it *that* easy, but you hit the
bullseye.  Washington Irving it is.

First quote was from "The Spectre Bridegroom", second from
"The Legend of Sleepy Hollow".

Jor's up.  You sure you can't find a quote?


#18 of 98 by jor on Tue Dec 26 14:04:16 2000:

        It would just be a repitition from my tired old stable.
        Which would also make it obvious. If something comes up
        I'll go ahead, in the mean time, someone please take my turn.


#19 of 98 by micklpkl on Wed Dec 27 02:08:35 2000:

        Anticipate charity by preventing poverty.


#20 of 98 by remmers on Wed Dec 27 13:30:08 2000:

(Is that a new quote?)


#21 of 98 by micklpkl on Wed Dec 27 14:10:35 2000:

It can be, if I'm not overstepping any boundaries.


#22 of 98 by remmers on Wed Dec 27 18:07:19 2000:

You're fine as long as it's from a published work by an
author who isn't hopelessly obscure.

I'll take a wild stab and guess Lyndon Johnson (since he
initiatied the "War on Poverty").


#23 of 98 by micklpkl on Wed Dec 27 18:43:04 2000:

Hopelessly obscure? Well, I should hope that this author isn't that, but you
will need to retreat much farther back in history than LBJ to find this quote,
which is, btw, a translation.


#24 of 98 by other on Wed Dec 27 19:16:19 2000:

Voltaire?


#25 of 98 by micklpkl on Wed Dec 27 19:33:16 2000:

No, not Voltaire.


#26 of 98 by rca on Wed Dec 27 23:19:27 2000:

Moses Maimonides?


#27 of 98 by micklpkl on Thu Dec 28 01:02:49 2000:

rca has it --- Rabbi Moses ben Maimon, also known by the acronym "Rambam"
wrote that in the 12th century, in his _Guide_to_the_Perplexed_.


#28 of 98 by rca on Sat Dec 30 03:41:36 2000:

Ok:

The shore road was "woodsy and wild and lonesome."
On the right hand, scrub firs, their spirits quite unbroken
by long years of tussle with the gulf winds, grew thickly.
On the left were the steep red sandstone cliffs, so near the
track in places that a mare of less steadiness than the
sorrel might have tried the nerves of the people behind
her.  Down at the base of the cliffs were heaps of surf-worn
rocks or little sandy coves inlaid with pebbles as with
ocean jewels; beyond lay the sea, shimmering and blue,
and over it soared the gulls, their pinions flashing silvery
in the sunlight.


#29 of 98 by md on Sat Dec 30 14:50:00 2000:

Tama Janowitz?


#30 of 98 by rca on Sat Dec 30 15:34:19 2000:

Not Tama Janowitz


#31 of 98 by md on Sat Dec 30 16:49:15 2000:

Jack Kerouac?


#32 of 98 by ngurah on Sat Dec 30 16:57:07 2000:

help

help
hai


#33 of 98 by happyboy on Sat Dec 30 20:51:26 2000:



        
        HAI!


#34 of 98 by rksjr on Sat Dec 30 21:26:19 2000:

  I may be way off the mark, but somehow the quotation shares a vague
ambiance with novels in the category ...La Maison aux pignons verts, but
will need to do some checking before I begin theorizing regarding the author
thereof.


#35 of 98 by davel on Sun Dec 31 19:15:35 2000:

Don't.  You can guess as often as necessary, though it's considered proper
to wait for at least one more response before guessing again.


#36 of 98 by rca on Fri Jan 5 00:33:04 2001:

not Jack Kerouac


#37 of 98 by remmers on Fri Jan 5 10:00:34 2001:

Hm, I think R K Sawyer essentially has it in <resp:34>, although
he doesn't name the author.  Lucy Maud Montgomery.


#38 of 98 by rca on Fri Jan 5 15:24:29 2001:

re: 37: Lucy Maud Montgomery: ding
The reason #34 didnt count is that we were looking for the author.
go, remmers


#39 of 98 by rca on Fri Jan 5 15:31:34 2001:

Book was _Anne of Green Gables_ or the French title La Maison aux Pignons
Verts


#40 of 98 by remmers on Fri Jan 5 19:56:19 2001:

I'll try to scrounge up a quote sometime today or tomorrow.


#41 of 98 by remmers on Mon Jan 8 02:30:00 2001:

Ok, here goes with a new quote:

        This house is back to its beginnings now.  Lonely
        boarders thumb through magazines in the kitchen while
        they wait for their canned soup to heat.  The
        television runs nearly all night, hissing its test
        pattern to a fat man asleep in an armchair.  There are
        yellowed newspapers stacked on the window seat and
        candy wrappers in the ashtrays, and this morning when I
        cam down to breakfast I removed a pair of dirty socks
        from the bottom stairstep and laid them on the newel
        post, where I suspect they will stay forever.

        The house is the same but the street is changing.
        Getting younger.  Old people are dwindling.  The few
        that are left pick their way down the sidewalk like
        shadows, whispering courage to themselves and clutching
        their string shopping bags full of treasure.  There
        goes the lame lady who lives above the grocery store in
        a room full of cats and birds and goldfish.  There goes
        our boarder Mr. Houck, who thins himself to a pencil
        line when passing a black harmonica player.  Miss
        Cohen, with her widowed mother.  The bald man with the
        ivory-handled cane.  All flinching beneath the cool
        eyes of the boy in dungarees who sits on a stoop
        fiddling with his ropes of colored beads.



#42 of 98 by remmers on Wed Jan 10 00:09:05 2001:

Two days and no guesses.  Nobody wants to take a stab at this?


#43 of 98 by ea on Wed Jan 10 00:32:12 2001:

Probably wrong, but I'll guess F. Scott Fitzgerald


#44 of 98 by remmers on Wed Jan 10 02:54:54 2001:

Not  Fitzgerald, but like him, the author is American.


#45 of 98 by gjharb on Wed Jan 10 13:12:14 2001:

Anne Tyler?


#46 of 98 by remmers on Wed Jan 10 15:49:14 2001:

Darn!  Right you are.  Nice going.  The quote is from Anne Tyler's
_Celestial Navigation_.

Gloria's up.


#47 of 98 by gjharb on Thu Jan 11 14:44:01 2001:

Okay - here it is.  I'll be out of town for a few days and won't be back
until sometime Monday.  I'll check the responses then so guess away.

        Arriving at the last house, my knock at the door was 
        answered by a bright, good natured, good looking little
        woman, who in reply to my request for a night's lodging
        and food, said, "Oh, I guess so.   I think you can stay.
        Come in and I'll call my husband."  But I must first 
        warn you," I said, "that I have nothing smaller to offer
        you than a five-dollar bill for my entertainment.  I don't
        want you to think that I am trying to impose on your hos-
        pitality."

        She then called her husband, a blacksmith, who was at work
        at his forge.  He came out, hammer in hand, bare-breasted,
        sweaty, begrimed, and covered with shaggy black hair.  In
        reply to his wife's statement, that this young man wished
        to stop over night, he quickly replied, "That's all right;
        tell him to go into the house."  He was turning to go back
        to his shop, when his wife added, "But he says he hasn't
        any change to pay.  He has nothing smaller than a five-
        dollar bill."  Hesitating only a moment, he turned on his
        heel and said, "Tell him to go into the house.  A man that
        comes right out like that beforehand is welcome to eat my
        bread."

        


#48 of 98 by remmers on Thu Jan 11 17:24:14 2001:

I'll open the guessing with Mickey Spillane!

(Somehow I doubt that's right, but nothing ventured nothing gained.)


#49 of 98 by gjharb on Thu Jan 11 20:39:52 2001:

Hmmm.  Not Spillane.  Perhaps another quote would be in order before
I leave:

        When he came in after his hard day's work and sat down to
        dinner, he solemnly asked a blessing on the frugal meal,
        consisting solely of corn bread and bacon.  Then, looking
        across the table at me, he said, "Young man, what are you
        doing down here?"  I replied that I was looking at plants.
        "Plants?  What kind of plants?"   I said, "Oh, all kinds;
        grass, weeds, flowers, trees, mosses, ferns -- almost 
        everything that grows is interesting to me."


#50 of 98 by remmers on Sat Jan 13 14:52:34 2001:

The setting appears to be 19th century American, but the
language sounds 20th century.  So I'd guess this is a fairly
recent work of historical fiction.  No real clue as to the
author though.


#51 of 98 by mcnally on Sun Jan 14 05:47:16 2001:

  As a semi-related issue, for how long have their been five-dollar bills?
  (and where did we come up with the word "dollar", anyway?)


#52 of 98 by jor on Sun Jan 14 21:16:49 2001:

        (that's a toughie, it's so obscure,
        check out Dutch/German "taler")
        (there's even a Sanskrit root)
        (But who chose or made up "dollar" and why?)



#53 of 98 by aruba on Mon Jan 15 01:24:32 2001:

   Main Entry: dol7lar
   Pronunciation: 'dd-l&r
   Function: noun
   Usage: often attributive
   Etymology: Dutch or Low German daler, from German Taler, short for
   Joachimstaler, from Sankt Joachimsthal, Bohemia, where talers were
   first made
   Date: 1553


#54 of 98 by davel on Mon Jan 15 14:56:21 2001:

"dol7lar"?     "'dd-l&r"?


#55 of 98 by gjharb on Tue Jan 16 00:34:03 2001:

Hint:  Author is known for his journals and memoirs - not fiction.
remmers is sort of close on the time period.  Another quote:  

        About noon my road became dim and at last vanished among
        desolate fields.  Lost and hungry, I knew my direction 
        but could not keep it on account of the briers.  My path
        was indeed strewn with flowers, but as thorny, also, as
        mortal ever trod.  In trying to force a way through these
        cat-plants one is not simply clawed and pricked through 
        all one's clothing, but caught and held fast.  The toothed
        arching branches come down over and above you like cruel
        living arms, and the more you struggle the more desperately
        you are entangled, and your wounds deepened and multiplied.
        The South has plant fly-catchers.  It also has plant man-
        catchers.

        After a great deal of defensive fighting and strugggling I
        escaped to a road and a house, but failed to find food or 
        shelter.  Towards sundown, as I was walking rapidly along a
        straight stretch in the road, I suddenly came in sight of 
        ten mounted men riding abreast.  They undoubtedly had seen
        me before I discovered them, for they had stopped their horses
        and were evidently watching me.  I saw at once that it was
        useless to avoid them, for the ground thereabout was quite open.
        I knew that there was nothing for it but to face them fearlessly,
        without showing the slightest suspicion of foul play.  Therefore,
        without halting for a moment, I advanced rapidly with long strides
        as though I intended to walk through the midst of them.  When I
        got within a rod or so, I looked up to their faces and smilingly
        bade them "Howdy."  Stopping never an instant, I turned to one
        side and walked around them to get on the road again, and kept
`       on without venturing to look back or to betray the slightest
        fear of being robbed.  

        After I had gone about one hundred or one hundred and fifty 
        yards, I ventured a quick glance back, withot stopping, and
        saw in this flash of an eye that all the ten had turned their
        horses toward me and were evidently talking about me; supposedly,
        with reference to what my object was, where I was going, and
        whether it would be worth while to rob me.  They all were mounted
        on rather scrawny horses, and all wore long hair hanging down on
        their sholders.  Evidently they belonged to the most irreclaim-
        able of the guerilla bands who, long accustomed to plunder,
        deplored the coming of peace.  I was not followed, however, 
        probably because the plants projecting from my plant press made
        them believe that I was a poor herb doctor, a common occupation
        in these mountain regions.


#56 of 98 by gjharb on Thu Jan 18 14:26:22 2001:

Nothing much happening here.  A giant hint:  A President was so impressed
with this author's writing that the two of them got together and formed a
new part of government.  Author is not obscure.  Ann Arbor Public Library
has 12 books under his name.  


#57 of 98 by scott on Thu Jan 18 14:39:19 2001:

OK, I'll bite.  Who is (was) John Muir?


#58 of 98 by aruba on Thu Jan 18 15:42:57 2001:

(Scott's been watching Jeopardy.)  Upton Sinclair?


#59 of 98 by remmers on Thu Jan 18 15:44:05 2001:

I think Scott might have it.


#60 of 98 by rcurl on Thu Jan 18 16:24:52 2001:

Now, if it had been the passage by Muir of climbing a tree to better
enjoy a thunderstorm....


#61 of 98 by gjharb on Thu Jan 18 20:40:05 2001:

John Muir it is.  Scott's up.  All quotes were taken from A Thousand
Mile Walk to the Gulf.  The book records Muir's trek in 1867 from
Indiana across Kentucky, Tennessee, North Carolina, Georgia and Florida
to the Gulf Coast.  He was 29 yrs. old at the time.


#62 of 98 by mcnally on Thu Jan 18 23:10:40 2001:

  Hmmm..  I'd considered John Muir but not guessed him because of the
  apparent setting of the passages you chose..


#63 of 98 by scott on Fri Jan 19 02:21:28 2001:

OK, here we go:

"Where te start?  With a death sentence, perhaps.  But whose--my death
sentence or hers?  And if mine, which of mine?  There are several from which
to choose.  Perhaps this final one is appropriate.  Begin at the ending.
        I am writing this in a Schrodinger cat box in high orbit around the
quarantined world of Armaghast.  The cat box is not much of a box, more of
a smooth-hulled ovoid a mere six meters by three meters.  It will be my entire
world until the end of my life.  Most of the interior of my world is a spartan
cell cosisting of a black-box air-and-waste recycler, my bunk, the
food-synthesizer unit, anarrow counter that serves as both my dining table
and writing desk, and finally the toilet, sink, and shower, which are set
behind a fiberplastic partition for reasons of propriety that escape me.  No
one will ever visit me here.  Privacy seems a hollow joke."


#64 of 98 by goose on Fri Jan 19 04:13:21 2001:

PK Dick?


#65 of 98 by jep on Fri Jan 19 14:22:37 2001:

Dan Simmons.


#66 of 98 by scott on Fri Jan 19 15:14:34 2001:

Jep is correct.  It's from "Endymion", BTW.  Should have been quite obvious
to anyone who's read that serious.


#67 of 98 by janc on Sat Jan 20 05:17:52 2001:

Was to me.


#68 of 98 by jep on Wed Jan 24 16:28:51 2001:

Sorry about being slow about posting a new quote.  Here it is:

Came today [it read] a blob from Thuban VI.  There is no other way in 
which one might describe it.  It is simply a mass of matter, presumably 
of flesh, and this mass seems to go through some sort of rhythmic change 
in shape, for periodically it is globular, then begins to flatten out 
until it lies in the bottom of the tank, somewhat like a pancake.  Then 
it begins to contract and to pull in on itself, until finally it is a 
ball again.  This change is rather slow and definitely rhythmic, but 
only in the sense that it follows the same pattern.  It seems to have no 
relation to time.  I tried timing it and could detect no time pattern.  
The shortest period needed to complete the cycle was seven minutes and 
the longest was eighteen.  Perhaps over a longer period one might be 
able to detect a time pattern, but I didn't have the time.  The semantic 
translator did not work with it, but it did emit for me a series of 
sharp clicks, as if it might be clicking claws together, although it had 
no claws that I could see.  When I looked this up in the pasimology 
manual I learned that what it was trying to say was that it was all 
right, that it needed no attention, and please leave it alone.  Which I 
did thereafter.


#69 of 98 by aruba on Wed Jan 24 16:45:38 2001:

Hmmm.  I'll guess Ursula LeGuin.


#70 of 98 by jep on Wed Jan 24 17:11:53 2001:

Nope.


#71 of 98 by aruba on Thu Jan 25 04:06:12 2001:

This sounds really familiar to me.  I don't think it's Heinlein, but since
jep and I are both Heinlein fans, I'll guess him.


#72 of 98 by janc on Thu Jan 25 04:46:26 2001:

Unfamiliar to me too.  I'll guess James White, because he does this kind of
thing, and I haven't read that much of his work.


#73 of 98 by jep on Thu Jan 25 17:57:41 2001:

Not Heinlein or James White.  The book should be familiar to any long 
time science fiction fan.  My reprinted copy, which I bought used, has a 
"True" cigarette ad in the middle.

Here's another excerpt from the same book:

They were, I gathered, a sexual unit, the five of them, although I am 
not certain I understand, for it is most confusing.  They were happy and 
friendly and they carried with them an air of faint amusement, not at 
anything in particular, but at the universe itself, as if they might 
have enjoyed some sort of cosmic and very private joke that was known to 
no one else.  They were on a holiday and were en route to a festival 
(although that might not be the precise word for it) on another planet, 
where other life forms were gathering for a week of carnival.  Just how 
they had been invited or why they had been invited I was unable to 
determine.  It must surely have been a great honor for them to be going 
there, but so far as I could see they did not seem to think so, but took 
it as their right.  They were very happy and without a care and 
extremely self-assured and poised, but thinking back on it, I would 
suppose that they are always that way.  I found myself just a little 
envious at not being able to be as carefree and gay as they were, and 
trying to imagine how fresh life and the universe must seem to them, and 
a little resentful that they could be, so unthinkingly, as happy as they 
were.


#74 of 98 by md on Thu Jan 25 21:49:57 2001:

The style doesn't tell me anything, but I'm not much of an SF fan.  Is 
it A. E. van Vogt?


#75 of 98 by mcnally on Thu Jan 25 22:18:19 2001:

  It sounds familiar to me, too, but I can't quite place it..  Hmmmm..


#76 of 98 by aruba on Fri Jan 26 05:49:13 2001:

Ah, OK.  I believe that's from "Way Station" by Clifford D. Simak?


#77 of 98 by janc on Fri Jan 26 06:16:02 2001:

Mark has it, I think.


#78 of 98 by jep on Fri Jan 26 18:09:48 2001:

I think he does, too.  Right you are, Mark!  You're up next.


#79 of 98 by aruba on Fri Jan 26 23:36:21 2001:

I just thought of that book the other day for some reason.  I'll come up
with a quote soon.


#80 of 98 by gelinas on Wed Feb 21 21:38:34 2001:

Soon?


#81 of 98 by aruba on Fri Feb 23 20:17:41 2001:

Sorry - I have been tied up.  Here's a quote:

She led the way across the street to a big white frame house which sat well
back from the road.  We went around the house to the back, past a little
sunken stone-walled garden, and through a hedge to a small barn that was
used for a garage.  Beside this sat a little portable wire pen.  Attached to
one end of the pen was a tiny wooden house with a tarpaper roof.  Only one
rabbit was in sight.  It was out in the pen, nibbling away at part of a
carrot.


#82 of 98 by janc on Sat Feb 24 21:59:15 2001:

James Herriot?


#83 of 98 by aruba on Sun Feb 25 02:53:26 2001:

Not James Herriot.


#84 of 98 by davel on Mon Feb 26 13:59:21 2001:

Dick Francis?  (... remembering one book in which rabbits being raised were
significant)


#85 of 98 by aruba on Mon Feb 26 14:27:57 2001:

Not Dick Francis.  The author is American.  I'll enter another quote soon.


#86 of 98 by aruba on Sun Mar 4 15:25:40 2001:

Sorry to be so slow.  Here's another quote:

"Does it work?" I asked Mr. Marble.

He nodded.  "I've drilled a lot of wells where people have called dousers to
pick the spot and I've got some very good wells.  On the other hand, I've
got some good wells where I've picked the spot by spitting."

"How do you pick the spot by spitting?"

"Well, you just spit someplace and then drill where you spit.  However I
don't claim as much for that method as the dousers do for theirs."


#87 of 98 by davel on Tue Mar 6 00:53:48 2001:

Does it really spell that word "dousers"?


#88 of 98 by aruba on Tue Mar 6 03:44:30 2001:

Yes.


#89 of 98 by remmers on Thu Mar 15 22:25:50 2001:

I have no idea at this point.


#90 of 98 by md on Fri Mar 16 00:49:02 2001:

[startled md opens eyes and sits up in bed]

Mr. and Mrs. John Smith!


#91 of 98 by aruba on Thu Mar 22 14:01:15 2001:

Sorry I have neglected this item so badly.  I will cede to someone else with
better quotes.


#92 of 98 by scott on Thu Mar 22 20:28:39 2001:

Ooohh!  I've finally got the perfect quote.  Can I take it?


#93 of 98 by remmers on Fri Mar 23 01:40:51 2001:

Coitainly.


#94 of 98 by scott on Fri Mar 23 17:34:58 2001:

I'll start a new item in Spring Agora.


#95 of 98 by aruba on Sat Mar 24 00:25:42 2001:

Sorry again for blowing this off.  I promise to do better next time I win.


#96 of 98 by davel on Sat Mar 24 18:30:46 2001:

Link the new item to Books?


#97 of 98 by swa on Tue Mar 27 02:30:35 2001:

Wait, wait!  Aren't you going to tell us who it is?  Must we remain in
suspense forever?




#98 of 98 by carson on Tue Mar 27 04:53:46 2001:

(if Mark wins again, he can pick up where he left off.) :^)


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