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Item 100: The Summer Mysterious Quote item

Entered by janc on Sun Jun 24 02:23:10 2001:

101 new of 104 responses total.


#4 of 104 by rcurl on Sun Jun 24 04:56:00 2001:

Everyone knows who Lestrade went to, to get his murder cases solved.....


#5 of 104 by other on Sun Jun 24 05:03:06 2001:

Then this author would be Sir Arthur Conan Doyle?

Though some elements seem a bit anachronistically recent.


#6 of 104 by janc on Sun Jun 24 06:04:19 2001:

Nope, not Doyle.  Here's another quote from the same book which is,
perhaps, a bit less deceptive, though as everyone noticed, the previous
one already had strong hints of not being Doyle:


  I watched him as his long fingers caressed the much-travelled
envelope and his eyes drew significance from every smudge, every
characteristic of the paper and ink and stamp, and it occurred to
me suddenly that Sherlock Holmes was bored.

  The thought was not a happy one.  No person, certainly no woman,
likes to think that her marriage has lessened the happiness of her
partner.  I thrust the troublesome idea from me, reached up to rub
a twinge from my right shoulder, and spoke with a shade more irritation
than was called for.

  "My dear Holmes, this verges on _deducto_ad_absurdum_.  Were you to
open the envelope and identify the writer, it might just simplify
matters."


#7 of 104 by scott on Sun Jun 24 13:31:33 2001:

Nicholas Meyer?


#8 of 104 by janc on Sun Jun 24 23:03:01 2001:

Not Meyer.


#9 of 104 by polygon on Mon Jun 25 01:45:30 2001:

John Dickson Carr.


#10 of 104 by janc on Mon Jun 25 02:58:26 2001:

Not Carr.


#11 of 104 by sholmes on Mon Jun 25 03:58:38 2001:

Not me either.


#12 of 104 by janc on Mon Jun 25 04:43:51 2001:

From a earlier book than the previous two:

  "Mr Holmes," I said, feeling myself go pink, "may I ask you a question?"
  "Certainly, Miss Russell."
  "How does _The_Valley_of_Fear_ end?" I blurted out.
  "The *what*?"  He sounded astonished.
  "_Valley_of_Fear_.  In _The_Strand_.  I hate these serials, and next
month is the end of it, but I just wondered if you could tell me, well,
how it turned out."
  "This is one of Watson's tales, I take it?"
  "Of course.  It's the case of Birlstone and the Scowrers and John
McMurdo and Professor Moriarty and--"
  "Yes, I believe I can identify the case, although I have often wondered
why, if Conan Doyle so likes pseudonyms he couldn't have given them to
Watson and myself as well."
  "So how does it end?"
  "I havent the faintest notion.  You'll have to ask Watson."
  "But surely you know how the case ended," I said, amazed.
  "The case, certainly.  But what Watson has made of it, I couldn't begin
to guess, except that there is bound to be gore and passion and secret
handshakes.  Oh, and some sort of love interest.  I deduce, Miss Russell;
Watson transforms.  Good day."


#13 of 104 by oddie on Mon Jun 25 07:54:16 2001:

I heard a radio play like this once... <ponder>


#14 of 104 by blaise on Mon Jun 25 20:10:23 2001:

John Gardner.


#15 of 104 by janc on Tue Jun 26 03:41:56 2001:

Nope.  Unlike everyone guessed so far, the author is a woman. 
Continuing to travel backward in literary time:

   "You have not answered my question, sir," I bit off.
   He ignored my fury.  Worse than that, he seemed unaware of it.
He looked merely bored, as if he wished I might go away.
   "What am I doing here, do you mean?"
   "Exactly."
   "I am watching bees," he said flatly, and turned back to his
contemplation of the hillside.
  Nothing in the man's manner showed a madness to correspond with his
words.  Nonetheless I kept an wary eye on hom as I thrust my book into
my coat pocket and dropped to the ground--a safe distance away from
him--and studied the movement in the flowers before me.
   There were indeed bees, industriously working at stuffing pollen
into those leg sacs of theirs, moving from flower to flower.  I watched,
and was just thinking that there was nothing particularly noteworthy
about these bees when my eyes were caught by the arrival of a peculiarly
marked specimen.  It seemed an ordinary honeybee but had a small red
spot on its back.  How odd--perhaps what he had been watching?  I
glanced at Eccentric, who was now staring intently off into space, and
then looked more closely at the bees, interested in spite of myself.  I
quickly concluded that the spot was no natural phenomenon, but rather
paint, for there was another bee, its spot slightly lopsided, and
another, and then another odd things: a bee with a blue spot as well. 
As I watched, two red spots flew off in a northwesterly direction.  I
carefully observed the blue-and-red spot as it filled its pouches and
saw it take off toward the northeast.
  I thought for a minute, got up, and walked to the top of the hill,
scattering ewes and lambs, and when I looked down at the village [...].
  "I'd say the blue spots are the better bet, if you're trying for
another hive," I told him.  "The ones you've only marked with red are
probably from Mr. Warner's orchard.  The blue spots are farther away,
but they're almost sure to be wild ones."  I dug the book from my
pocket, and when I looked up to wish him a good day he was looking at
me, and the expression on his face took all words from my lips--no mean
accomplishment.  He was, as the writers say but people seldom actually
are, openmouthed.  He looked a bit like a fish, in fact, gaping at me as
if I were growing another head.  He slowly stood up, his mouth shutting
as he rose, but still staring.
  "*What* did you say?"
  "I beg your pardon, are you hard of hearing?"  I raised my voice
somewhat and spoke slowly.  "I said, if you want a new have you'll have
to follow the blue spots, because the reds are sure to be Tom Warner's."
  "I am not hard of hearing, although I am short of credulity.  How do
you come to know of my interests?"
  "I should have thought it obvious," I said impatiently, though even at
that age I was aware tht such things were not obvious to the majority of
people.  "I see paint on your pocket handkerchief, and traces on your
fingers where you wiped it away.  The only reason to mark bees that I
can think of is to enable one to follow them to their hive.  You are
either interested in gathering honey or in the bees themselves, and it
is not the time of year to harvest honey.  Three months ago we had an
unusual cold spell that killed many hives.  Therefore I assume that you
are tracking these in order to replenish your stock."
  The face that looked down at me was no longer fishlike.  In fact, it
resembled amazingly a captive eagle I had once seen, perched in aloof
splendour looking down the ridge of its nose at this lessor creature,
cold disdain staring out from his hooded grey eyes.
  "My God," he said in a voice of mock wonder, "it can think."


#16 of 104 by beeswing on Tue Jun 26 05:00:57 2001:

I am watching bees too :) Har!


#17 of 104 by mdw on Tue Jun 26 05:21:23 2001:

I hope it's not that vampire woman, Anne Rice.


#18 of 104 by swa on Tue Jun 26 06:57:24 2001:

Laurie King.

I *think* that's the name I'm thinking of.


#19 of 104 by mooncat on Tue Jun 26 14:58:00 2001:

Hmm, when someone gets it right I'll be interested in looking this book 
up, sounds like fun.


#20 of 104 by rcurl on Tue Jun 26 17:15:38 2001:

Summer 2001 agora 21 has been linked to books 100.


#21 of 104 by blaise on Tue Jun 26 18:43:50 2001:

Carole Nelson Douglas.


#22 of 104 by janc on Tue Jun 26 21:03:53 2001:

Sara has it:  Laurie R. King.

I've only read her Holmes books.  The series so far is:
   The Beekeeper's Apprentice
   A Monsterous Regiment of Women
   A Letter of Mary
   The Moor
   Oh Jerusalem
The first two quotes were from "A Letter of Mary", the remainder from "The
Beekeeper's Apprentice".  The first and last books listed are good fun.  For
some reason I omitted to buy "The Moor".  There is, of course, a whole genre
of Sherlock Holmes stories, so I thought it'd be fun to do a quote where the
main character was immediately identifiable, but the author not.  I was
tempted by Larry Millet's Adventures of Sherlock Holmes in Minnesota (yes,
three whole books about Holmes in Minnesota), but they aren't really that
good.  I've never felt he really capture the real Holmes as well as Ms King
does.


#23 of 104 by rcurl on Wed Jun 27 01:03:36 2001:

There is, of course a Doyle story that describes at length events
that occurred in America, albeit not in Minnesota.


#24 of 104 by gelinas on Wed Jun 27 04:50:18 2001:

There is?  I've read the Complete Sherlock Holmes, but I don't remember any
story describing his time in America.  One opens with him smoking a cigarette
and blaming it on his trip, but that's it.  An argument could be made that
A Study in Scarlet and The Three (or was it Five?) Orange Pips reflect
knowledge gained while travelling across America.


#25 of 104 by rcurl on Wed Jun 27 05:17:29 2001:

Its A Study in Scarlet. It doesn't describe any events Holmes or Watson
were involved in in America - but I didn't say it did. 


#26 of 104 by aruba on Wed Jun 27 05:21:50 2001:

It's THe Sign of the Four, isn't it?  I think so.  It starts out in England
and then abruptly shifts to America.


#27 of 104 by rcurl on Wed Jun 27 05:41:23 2001:

Nope. The Sign only visits India, Andaman Islands, and England. 


#28 of 104 by gelinas on Wed Jun 27 05:49:53 2001:

So I mis-read your original statement, in context. ;/


#29 of 104 by davel on Wed Jun 27 12:56:15 2001:

_The_Valley_of_Fear_ also has much of its action in the US.


#30 of 104 by swa on Sat Jun 30 04:35:50 2001:

I must confess I haven't actually read these.  Just pulled the name out of my
head from memories of shelving at the used bookstore I used to work at. 
(Questions like: "I'm looking for something by that woman who writes Sherlock
Holmes stories" are somewhat easier than the usual: "So I'm looking for this
book, I think it had a blue cover, don't remember the title but it was really
good.")  I remember thinking at the time that they looked interesting, and
these quotes confirmed that impression.

I shall post something tomorrow.




#31 of 104 by swa on Sun Jul 1 07:10:05 2001:

The thing about Manhattan is that everything is here, all mixed together,
that's what I love about it.  Ugly things and beautiful things you didn't even
think could exist.  It's loud and dirty, our apartment is teeny and you have to
walk up eight flights to get to it but we have a fireplace with carved angels,
a leopard-print chaise lounge, Maxfield Parrish prints of nymphs in classical
sunset gardens, pink-damask drapes and silk roses in platform shoes from the
40's and 70's that Izzy has collected.  Izzy grows real roses in pots on the
fire escape.  She loves flowers and is always teaching me the names of
different ones.  She especially likes the ones with really ugly names. 
Anastasia grows oregano, dill, parsley and basil on the fire escape.  She uses
them in her special inter-international recipes.  Anastasia believes you should
never be afraid to mix cultures.  She makes a Japanese-Italianish miso-pesto
sauce for pasta and a bright-pink tandoori tofu stir-fry.  I can tell what
she's making just by sniffing the air.  Sometimes when Anastasia doesn't feel
like cooking, she and Izzy and I go to our favorite restaurants.  We have
golden curried-vegetable samosas and yogurt-cucumber salad under trees filled
with fireflies in the courtyard of our favorite Indian restaurant.  We have
fettuccine at an Italian place where the Mafia guys used to shoot each other
while they were sucking up pasta.  We like the pink and green rice chips and
the rose petals in the salad with the peanut dressing and the ginger tofu at
our Thai place.  There is a Middle Eastern restaurant we go to where you can
get minty tabbouleh and yummy mushy hummus in pita bread for really cheap, and
a funny Russian restaurant with bright murals of animals in people clothes
dancing around cottages in the countryside.  We eat borscht there, and drink
tea from a silver samovar.




#32 of 104 by remmers on Sun Jul 1 13:11:41 2001:

(Can you fix your formatting?  Your long lines are wrapping, making
them difficult to read on a standard 80-column display.)

(Not that this would help me much, since I have no clue about the
author.  ;-)


#33 of 104 by swa on Tue Jul 3 02:15:15 2001:

Oh dear.  I'm not quite sure how I managed to do that.

Would it help to repost #31?  If so, I will.


#34 of 104 by swa on Thu Jul 5 03:55:16 2001:

Okay, here's the first quote again, more readable, I hope.  I'll post
another quote soon, in the hopes of eliciting at least *some* guesses.


The thing about Manhattan is that everything is here, all mixed together, 
that's what I love about it.  Ugly things and beautiful things you didn't
even think could exist.  It's loud and dirty, our apartment is teeny and
you have to walk up eight flights to get to it but we have a fireplace
with carved angels, a leopard-print chaise lounge, Maxfield Parrish prints
of nymphs in classical sunset gardens, pink-damask drapes and silk roses
in platform shoes from the 40's and 70's that Izzy has collected.  Izzy
grows real roses in pots on the fire escape.  She loves flowers and is
always teaching me the names of different ones.  She especially likes the
ones with really ugly names.  Anastasia grows oregano, dill, parsley and
basil on the fire escape.  She uses them in her special
inter-international recipes.  Anastasia believes you should never be
afraid to mix cultures. She makes a Japanese-Italianish miso-pesto sauce
for pasta and a bright-pink tandoori tofu stir-fry.  I can tell what she's
making just by sniffing the air.  Sometimes when Anastasia doesn't feel
like cooking, she and Izzy and I go to our favorite restaurants.  We have
golden curried-vegetable samosas and yogurt-cucumber salad under trees
filled with fireflies in the courtyard of our favorite Indian restaurant.
We have fettuccine at an Italian place where the Mafia guys used to shoot 
each other while they were sucking up pasta.  We like the pink and green 
rice chips and the rose petals in the salad with the peanut dressing and 
the ginger tofu at our Thai place.  There is a Middle Eastern restaurant 
we go to where you can get minty tabbouleh and yummy mushy hummus in pita 
bread for really cheap, and a funny Russian restaurant with bright murals 
of animals in people clothes dancing around cottages in the countryside. 
We eat borscht there, and drink tea from a silver samovar.
 
 


#35 of 104 by janc on Fri Jul 6 02:46:43 2001:

Haven't got a guess to offer, but sounds pretty recent.


#36 of 104 by swa on Fri Jul 6 03:08:09 2001:

Indeed, the author is both contemporary and American.

Here's a quote from another work:

Todd had grown up in Northern California in a big ranch house called 
Love Farm, with five brothers and sisters.  His parents had an 
antiquarian book shop called The Book of Love and grew all their own 
organic vegetables.  They encouraged their children to put on plays for 
them after dinner -- TV did not exist at Love Farm.  Todd was the 
oldest, and everyone knew he would become a big star, possibly on the TV 
none of them watched, although his parents often cautioned him about the 
dangers of Hollywood; they had met there on a chewing-gum commercial, 
fallen instantly in love over a single piece of gum (shared), and 
decided to get out while they were still relatively unscarred by the 
business.
    Todd's expansive, loving, freewheeling nature was encouraged.  He 
smoked pot and discussed the Beat poets with his parents; he ran through 
the woods with his brothers and sisters, leading them at games of 
Indians and Indians (no one would be the Cowboys); he wrote the plays 
they performed at night, soliciting the services of girls in the 
neighborhood to inhabit the role of leading lady.  The plays were always 
romantic and ended with a passionate kiss, much to the dismay of Todd's 
younger siblings, who found it all particularly stomach-turning.  But 
Todd's audience and his co-stars enjoyed the romance.  And of course, so 
did Todd, who felt privately that his calling in life was to kiss as 
many girls as possible and let even more watch him doing it so they 
could live vicariously through the ones on screen.


#37 of 104 by ivynymph on Fri Jul 6 08:19:12 2001:

(As soon as we find out what this is from, I think I'm going to find and read
it! :)  



#38 of 104 by swa on Sat Jul 7 22:07:14 2001:

Maybe I should have picked a different author?

These quotes are from someone generally classified as a young adult author. 
I'll post another quote tomorrow.



#39 of 104 by swa on Tue Jul 10 04:40:36 2001:

I knocked and waited.  I knocked again.  My heart was imitating my fist. 
 What if my father answered the door?  After a while I heard footsteps 
and the sound of a peephole opening.  A tall white-haired man, with a 
huge white moustache that curled up at the ends, opened the door.

"Hello," he boomed Swissly.

"Hi," I said. "I'm looking for somebody."

"Who are you looking for?"  He twirled the end of his moustache around 
his finger and glowered at me.

"Irving Rose," I said.

The man's blue eyes looked like they were doing a jig and the rest of 
his body seemed like it would follow any second.  His cheeks turned 
pinker.  "You know Irving Rose!  The genius!  I haven't seen him in 
years."

"He used to live here?"  I asked.

"Yes he did.  In this very apartment.  I moved in when he left."

"Who are you?"  I asked.

"The landlord, Uncle Hansel," the man said.  He bowed so low that I was 
afraid his moustache would tickle me.  Instead all that happened was I 
got a little dizzy from his cologne.  Then he put out his big hand and I 
shook it.  I tried to see behind him, into the apartment where my father 
used to live.

"Could I come in?"  I asked.

"Didn't anyone tell you that children shouldn't go into the apartments 
of strange men!"  Uncle Hansel scolded.

"You're not strange," I reassured him, still trying to see.

"Well, all right, but we'll leave the door wide open and you must run 
out if you feel in the least uncomfortable, dear," Uncle Hansel 
insisted.

I followed him to a small, dim room that smelled of rye bread and 
strawberry jam.  It was filled with wooden furniture carved and painted 
with hearts and flowers.  There were jars of roses, ferns in birdcages, 
a collection of mechanical windup toys and as many cuckoo clocks as 
could fit on the walls.  As I looked at them, they all started chiming, 
and a flock of wooden cuckoos scooted in and out.  I wondered if that 
drove Uncle Hansel crazy, but he seemed to be enjoying it.  He smiled 
proudly at the birds and twirled his moustache.

"Would you like something to eat?"  Uncle Hansel asked.  "Although, come 
to think of it, little girls aren't supposed to accept food from 
strangers."

"You knew my father, though," I said.  I was hungry, and I had a pretty 
good sense of smell -- I bet there really would be rye bread and jam.

"Your father!"  Uncle Hansel exclaimed.  "Why of course!  The genius!  
You look just like him!"

"So could I maybe have a snack?" I asked.

"Of course.  Come with me."


#40 of 104 by davel on Wed Jul 11 13:08:40 2001:

Interesting.  Probably no one I've ever read or even ever heard of, though.


#41 of 104 by ea on Wed Jul 11 14:58:51 2001:

I'll guess Bruce Coville.  Probably wrong, but it seems like the same 
writing style.


#42 of 104 by swa on Fri Jul 13 02:05:00 2001:

Not Coville... though a guess, of any kind, is noted and appreciated.  The
long silences here are making me think it would probably be best to turn this
over to someone else soon.

This writer is female, and lives in Los Angeles.  Most of her stuff has been
published within the last decade and a half or so.



#43 of 104 by swa on Fri Jul 13 04:09:29 2001:

Here's a quote from another novel (resp:36 is from one of this author's 
novels, resp:34 and resp:39 from a short story):

She hardly recognized him because she knew he didn't recognize her, not 
at all.  Once, on a bus in New York, she had seen the man of her dreams. 
 She was twelve and he was carrying a guitar case and roses wrapped in 
green paper, and there were raindrops on the roses and on his hair, and 
he hadn't looked at her once.  He was sitting directly across from her 
and staring ahead and he didn't see anyone, anything there.  He didn't 
see Weetzie even though she had known then that someday they must have 
babies and bring each other roses and write songs together and be rock 
stars.  Her heart had felt as meager as her twelve-year-old chest, as if 
it had shriveled up because this man didn't recognize her.


#44 of 104 by swa on Mon Jul 16 00:54:56 2001:

Um... I think perhaps it's time to turn it over to the next willing 
person.  Any objections?


#45 of 104 by janc on Mon Jul 16 01:25:15 2001:

The usual solution to this is to start giving really honking big clues.  But
you can just throw it up for whoever wants to go next if you like.


#46 of 104 by swa on Thu Jul 19 01:45:37 2001:

I think the clues I *have* given would make it recognizable to someone 
who knew the author.  I think I've chosen too obscure an author.  <sigh> 
 But as I'm having enough trouble Grexing regularly enough to keep up 
with the auction these days -- I hereby declare the field open.


#47 of 104 by mooncat on Thu Jul 19 13:00:49 2001:

Sara- well, since you've declared the field open... who is that author 
anyway?


#48 of 104 by micklpkl on Thu Jul 19 23:31:59 2001:

Yes, all those excerpts sound fascinating. Since Sara's opened up the field,
I didn't feel so bad about net searching. :)

Based upon what I found, I'm going to guess Francesca Lia Block.


#49 of 104 by swa on Fri Jul 20 04:30:45 2001:

Francesca Lia Block is correct.  The first and third of the quotes I
posted are from the short story "Dragons in Manhattan."  The second is
from _I Was a Teenage Fairy_ and the latest from _Weetzie Bat_.

Block is, as I said, generally shelved in the young adult section of
bookstores.  Don't let that dissuade you from checking her stuff out.
She's cool.


#50 of 104 by remmers on Fri Jul 20 14:18:06 2001:

<remmers, having never heard of Francesca Lia Block, doesn't feel too
 badly about not having guessed this one>


#51 of 104 by rcurl on Fri Jul 20 16:04:09 2001:

_Weetzie Bat_? Is that about a bat (chiroptera)?


#52 of 104 by orinoco on Fri Jul 20 22:41:58 2001:

Given the quotes, I'm pretty sure it's about a bat (h. sapiens sapiens).  Then
again, I might be wrong...


#53 of 104 by micklpkl on Sat Jul 21 21:30:45 2001:

I hope this will be  an easy one:

At dawn, bleary-eyed but joyful, the three youngsters took off
across the wet dewy fields and went into the woods to the brook
among the pines, where they had done the old swimming as little
kids. And just as they got there the sun began to come up, the
mists stirred over the hillsides and over the placid brook, birds
peeped in the pines, the last pale stars trembled, and great light
began to overspread the world.

"Rosy-fingered dawn!" howled young Panos with indescribable
delight, and they were all awake now, strangely ecstatic, and each
began to sing, babble, and wander around in the woods throwing
sticks, Alexander himself singing in a loud bawling voice that might
have been heard two miles away in the profound stillness. He even
ran tripping to the top of a little hill, yelling joyous hosannahs
and holding out his arms to the sky, while Peter and Tommy
watched him, amazed.

Peter, for his part, kept looking up at the sky and yelling
"Space!" or down in the water with a show of moodiness, saying
"Lucidness," or stamping his feet on the ground and repeating over
and over again, "Solidness, solidness, solidness," though he hadn't
the vaguest idea why he enjoyed doing this. And Tommy Camp-
bell, flinging his tunic over his shoulder in the warm morning,
began to sing in a high cracked voice. On the Road to Mandalay,
which echoed and re-echoed in the woods, especially when Panos
lent his own thunderous voice' to the refrain. They felt wonder-
fully foolish and happy and they let go with anything that came
to their minds.

"Because the sun is coming up!" howled Alexander. "Only be-
cause the sun is coming up! We came here just for that!"

"We thronged!" shouted Peter triumphantly.

"Yes! Through the woods!" bawled Alexander. "Oh, listen to
me! Beauty is truth, and truth is beauty, and that is all ye need
to know!"

"Chambers of beauty!" cried Tommy Campbell, pointing to the
rays of light streaming down between the pines.

"God's cathedral-l-l!" called Alexander through cupped hands in
a great shout that carried across the fields, and they all laughed
savagely.

Then, as the sun came up in full brilliant array far off over the
hills, fanning light all over the sky and gilding little dawn-clouds
that were regimented beautifully overhead, the boys fell silent, in
awe, and stood on the two little hills watching, Panos and Camp-
bell on one hill, and Peter alone on another, all of them brooding
and reflective. It was a strange little moment of meditation in the
deep stillness of the morning, with only the sound of a farmer's
horse neighing faintly far away and clip-clopping on a road, and
someone whistling far away, and a barndoor closing.

They trudged back home wearily, after a quick shivering swim
in the brook where Alexander splashed about prodigiously, scream-
ing: "Mumbo Jumbo God of the Congo and all of the other Gods
of the Congo!" Now, their meditations over as whimsically as they
had begun, they jabbered excitedly all the way home; Alexander
wound a flower around his ear. Peter chewed the stems of long
grass, and Tommy strode along like a prophet, carrying a huge
limb from a rotted tree. They happened to see two veiled old
ladies trudging along the road, apparently towards the church in
Norcott, two darkly-clad old women faithful to some endless
novena. Peter pointed at them with the air of a prophet, saying:
"Fear." Alexander went into a little dance that was intended to
represent fear, and Tommy Campbell raised his huge tree-bough
and waved it thrice in solemn blessing.

They strode on home eagerly, hungrily. Alexander cried: "Up
there!" and they all stopped. Alexander was pointing at the sky,
saying: "Glory!" They all stared up at the sky.

"Here!" cried Tommy Campbell, pointing to the ground at his
feet. "Death!"

Alexander knelt on the ground and tenderly took the flower from
his ear, and laid it down, and covered it with a little bier of earth,
his whole body, meanwhile, seeming to tremble suddenly from
some spasmodic feeling.

"What's left of life," he said mournfully, "what's left of life, a
little flower. Immortal little flower that venerates us, that venerates
us and all that this morning means. Weep for the little flower,
weep for the petals in its heart, weep for us, weep for us!" He knelt
there, while the boys watched grinning, he knelt there and seemed
to be wrapped in a secret, prescient ecstasy of what his life was to
him.                                    

And then they went on home.



#54 of 104 by ea on Sun Jul 22 01:45:19 2001:

Probably wrong, but C.S. Lewis?


#55 of 104 by senna on Sun Jul 22 08:19:46 2001:

I'll snidely throw Ray Bradbury in as my guess, since this has a style very
similar to the Pioneer 9th grade English ultra-reviled Dandelion Wine.


#56 of 104 by orinoco on Sun Jul 22 13:53:15 2001:

It makes me want to say C.S. Lewis too, even though I can't for the life of
me think what book of his it would be.  Edward Eager?  I can't picture him
being nearly this apocalyptic, but it's worth a try.


#57 of 104 by micklpkl on Sun Jul 22 18:03:26 2001:

No, not C.S. Lewis, Ray Bradbury, or Edward Eager. 


#58 of 104 by brighn on Mon Jul 23 14:01:11 2001:

(I LIKE Bradbury, and Dandelion Wine!)
(The book. I've never had the beverage.)

I don't think Forster ever wrote about kids, but that's my what-the-hell guess
anyway. ;}


#59 of 104 by micklpkl on Mon Jul 23 15:09:36 2001:

No, not E.M. Forster. 


#60 of 104 by jiffer on Mon Jul 23 16:45:09 2001:

Spelling correction.... E.M. Forrester.  Thank you.


#61 of 104 by brighn on Mon Jul 23 16:49:08 2001:

Don't correct people who are correct, jiffer.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0156711427/qid=995906815/sr=2-1/103-
375
8189-2164611

That's a link to Amazon's listing for "A Passage to India," written by Edward
Morgan Forster (with a picture of the bookcover, with the same spelling).


#62 of 104 by slynne on Mon Jul 23 17:01:29 2001:

She's thinking of that movie, _Finding Forrester_  *snort*


#63 of 104 by senna on Mon Jul 23 17:21:35 2001:

I don't necessarily have anything against Bradbury or the book, but it was
not a pleasant class excersize :)  If I read it again, I might not dislike
it now.


#64 of 104 by brighn on Mon Jul 23 17:59:34 2001:

... and just what's WRONG with that movie, Finding Forrester? 'TWas a fine
fine movie.

What was the class exercise?


#65 of 104 by slynne on Mon Jul 23 18:26:13 2001:

Nothing was wrong with the movie. It was just about an author whose last 
name was Forrester while old E.M.'s last name is Forster ;)


#66 of 104 by brighn on Mon Jul 23 19:43:17 2001:

Well, that's fine, since it wasn't about E.M.... ;}

I actually thought Forrester was more inspired by Salinger.


#67 of 104 by remmers on Tue Jul 24 00:58:11 2001:

And there is an actual author named C.S. Forrester.  He did the
Horatio Hornblower series.  None of which changes the fact that
I have no clue who the mystery author is.


#68 of 104 by otaking on Tue Jul 24 03:31:28 2001:

I'll give it a try. Stephen King?


#69 of 104 by swa on Tue Jul 24 06:32:12 2001:

_Weetzie bat_ is about a person whose name is Weetzie Bat.



#70 of 104 by remmers on Tue Jul 24 10:11:57 2001:

(Re #68:  Hmm.  S. King is a possibility.  Wish I'd thought of it.)


#71 of 104 by micklpkl on Tue Jul 24 13:23:40 2001:

No, it's not Stephen King (interesting guess, though). I shall post another
quote from the same novel later this evening.


#72 of 104 by orinoco on Tue Jul 24 20:17:33 2001:

Arthur C. Clarke is another long shot, also probably wrong.


#73 of 104 by micklpkl on Wed Jul 25 15:05:35 2001:

No, not Arthur C Clarke. I apologise for not getting another excerpt OCR'd
last night, but I did find the section that should give this one away.

The author was a American writer from the last half of the 20th century.


#74 of 104 by micklpkl on Fri Jul 27 01:34:36 2001:

I hadn't intended to do this one, but here is another excerpt from earlier
in the same novel:

Little Mickey wakes up and goes to his window: it's Saturday
morning, no school today. And for him there's a still music in the
air like the faint sound of heraldry over the woods, like men,
horses and dogs gathering under the trees far across the field for
some joyous and adventurous foray. Everything is soft and musical,
and sweet, and full of longings, misty hints and unspeakable reve-
lations that float in the gentlest blue air. There, in the blue
shadows beneath the morning trees, in the cool speckled shade,
in the new green misty color of the woods far off, in the dark
ground still moist and all covered with little blossoms, there is
his hint of glorious spreading Summer, and the future. Mickey
dashes out. slamming the kitchen door behind him. goes rolling
his old rubber tire with a stick. He journeys down old Galloway
Road over the cool dewy tar, on each side of him the birds are
singing, he wonders when there'll be apples in old man Breton's
orchard there. He figures this year he will explore the river in
a boat. This year he will do everything, boy!

In the middle of the morning Mickey watches all the big guys
at the ballfield slamming their fists into their gloves, throwing a
brand new white baseball around. Someone has a bat, hitting
light bunts, the boys stoop to pick up the grounders and yell,
"Uff! I got them old kinks this year!"

Someone hoots under a high fly, punches his glove, pulls it
down, trots around awhile, lobs the ball back easily. It's Spring
training time, they've got to watch "the old arm." Mickey smells
the fragrant cigarette smoke in the morning air where the older
boys stand around talking. Big brother Joe Martin is winding up
leisurely, throwing to another boy who squats with a catcher's
mitt. Joe is a star pitcher, he knows how to take his time and get
the old kinks out in the Spring. Everybody watches as he lobs the
ball in easily, with a sure motion and a deadpan face. A minute
later he's whooping with laughter when someone gets a knock
on the shins from a hard grounder.

In his mother's cool shady kitchen, Mickey devours a bowl of
cereal and stares at the picture of Jimmy Foxx on the box cover.
His chums are coming up the road, he can hear them, they're
going off to play cowboys on the hill. He's Buck Jones all the
time. They're out in the yard now, calling:

"Mick-ee!"

Mickey comes storming out of the kitchen with both guns
blazing, "Kow! kow! kow!" and dodges behind a barrel; the
others take cover and return fire. Someone leaps up, twists, con-
torts, and falls slain to the grass.

In the Spring night, Joe tunes up the old Ford and roars off to
drink beer with his buddies. And on the first warm June night,
Mrs. Martin and Ruth dust off the old swing in the backyard,
put cushions on it, make a big bowl of popcorn, and go sit under
the moon, in the waving black shade of the high hedges.
A cousin sits with them in the breezy night, exclaiming: "Ooh!
ain't the moon grand!"

Old man Martin, banging around the kitchen making an egg
sandwich, mimics savagely: "Ain't the moon gry-and!"
The three women out in the yard, swinging rhythmically in the
creaking old swing, are telling each other about the best fortune-
tellers they have ever known.

"I tell you. Marge, she is uncannyl"

Mrs. Martin rocks in the swing, waiting patiently, with slitted
eyes, skeptical.

"She foretold almost everything that happened that year, detail
by detail, mind you!" And with this Cousin Leona looks up at
the moon and sighs, "The irony of this life. Marge, the irony of
life."

The father of the house stomps out of the kitchen with his
sandwich, mimicking again, savagely: "Oh, the irony of liaf!"
The women rock back and forth in the old creaking swing,
reaching mechanically into the popcorn bowl, musing, contented,
belonging to the wonderful darkness and the ripe June world,
owning it, as no barging man of the house could ever hope to
belong to any part of the earth or own an inch of it.



#75 of 104 by orinoco on Fri Jul 27 16:48:55 2001:

The style of this reminds me a little of "A Child's Christmas in Wales."  I'm
gonna guess Dylan Thomas, even though I didn't think he'd written much other
prose.


#76 of 104 by micklpkl on Fri Jul 27 17:31:15 2001:

No, not Dylan Thomas. The author was born in New England.


#77 of 104 by remmers on Fri Jul 27 17:33:09 2001:

The setting of #74 seems distinctly American, so I doubt it's Thomas.


#78 of 104 by remmers on Fri Jul 27 17:33:41 2001:

(#76 slipped in, with an unsurprising response.)


#79 of 104 by brighn on Fri Jul 27 20:32:54 2001:

("He's so square, when you say 'Dylan', he thinks you mean Dylan Thomas,
whoever THAT is. The BOY ain't GOT no CULTURE." -- paraphrase of Simon &
Garfunkel)


#80 of 104 by micklpkl on Mon Jul 30 01:54:13 2001:

Okay, hopefully this one will sound familiar to somebody:


As Peter stood there, he recognized three young men strolling
up the street. They were a strange trio: one was a hoodlum, one
was a dope addict, and the third was a poet.

The hoodlum---Jack---was a sleek, handsome youngster from
Tenth Avenue, who claimed that he was born "on a barge in the
East River" eighteen years before. He was well-dressed, seemingly
composed in his bearing and quiet, almost dignified, in his man-
ner. It was only that he could never concentrate; he was always
looking around as though anticipating something. His eyes were
hard and blank, almost elderly in their stony meaningless calm.
He talked in a swift, high-pitched, nervous voice, and kept look-
ing away stonily, twirling his key chain.

The dope addict, whose only known name was Junkey, was a
small, dark, Arabic-looking man with an oval face and huge blue
eyes that were lidded wearily always, with the huge lids of a mask.
He moved about with the noiseless glide of an Arab, his expres-
sion always weary, indifferent, yet somehow astonished too, aware
of everything. He had the look of a man who is sincerely miserable
in the world.

The poet---Leon Levinsky---had been a classmate of Peter's at
college, and was now a merchant seaman of sorts, sailing coastwise
on coalboats to Norfolk or New Orleans. He was wearing a
strapped raincoat, a Paisley scarf, and dark-rimmed glasses with
the air of an intellectual. He carried two slim volumes under his
arm, the works of Rimbaud and W. H. Auden, and he smoked
his cigarette stuck in a red holder.

They came along the sidewalk, Jack the hoodlum swaggering
slowly, Junkey padding along like an Arab in the Casbah, and
Leon Levinsky, lip-pursing, meditative, absorbed in thought, twin-
kling along beside them with his Charley Chaplin feet flapping
out, puffing absently on the cigarette-holder. They strolled in the
lights.

Peter walked up and greeted them.

"So you're back finally!" cried Levinsky, grinning eagerly. "I've
been thinking of you lately for some reason or other---actually I
guess it's because I've so much to tell you!"

"Why don't we go and sit down?" proposed Junkey wearily. "Let's
sit in the cafeteria window there and we can talk and keep an
eye on the street."

They went in the cafeteria, got coffee, and sat down by the
windows, where Junkey could resume his pale vigil of Forty-
Second Street---a vigil that went on a good eighteen hours
a day, and sometimes, when he had no place to sleep, twenty-
four hours around the clock. It was the same with Jack---the
same anxious vigil of the street, from which the watchers of
the Street could never turn their eyes without some piercing sense
of loss, some rankling anguish that they had "missed out" on
something. Junkey always sat facing the street, and when he
talked, sometimes with intense earnestness, his eyes kept never-
theless going back and forth as he combed the street sweep-
ingly  under  drooping eyelids.  Even  though  Peter and  Leon
Levinsky sat with their backs to the window, they could not help
turning now and then just to see.

Leon Levinsky was about nineteen years old. He was one of the
strangest, most curiously exalted youngsters Peter had ever known.
He was not unlike Alexander Panos, in a sense, and Peter had
been drawn to him for this reason. Levinsky was an eager, intense,
sharply intelligent boy of Russian-Jewish parentage who rushed
around New York in a perpetual sweat of emotional activity,
back and forth in the streets from friend to friend, room to room,
apartment to apartment. He "knew everybody" and "knew every-
thing," was always bearing tidings and messages from "the others,"
full of catastrophe. He brimmed and flooded over day and night
with a thousand different thoughts and conversations and small
horrors, delights, perplexities, deities, discoveries, ecstasies, fears.
He stared gog-eyed at the world and was full of musings, lip-
pursings, subway broodings---all of which rushed forth in torrents
of complex conversation whenever he confronted someone. He
knew almost everyone Peter knew, a few thousand others Peter
did not know. Like young Panos, Leon Levinsky was also likely
to show up suddenly morose and brooding, or simply disappear
from the "scene" for months and Peter liked that too. 


#81 of 104 by anderyn on Tue Jul 31 15:00:26 2001:

Jack Kerouac, of course. (Twila smacks her head and wonders how she could
have been so stupid...)


#82 of 104 by micklpkl on Tue Jul 31 15:05:46 2001:

That *is* the correct answer! Don't feel bad if you didn't guess it; all
excerpts were taken from Kerouac's first novel, _The Town and the City_, and
it's not one of his more recognisable works. 


#83 of 104 by orinoco on Tue Jul 31 15:24:27 2001:

(Hey swa: Does the story "Dragons in Manhattan" appear in a book called _Girl
Goddess #9,_ by any chance?)


#84 of 104 by swa on Thu Aug 2 06:53:37 2001:

Yes, that would be the one... (You *know* it?  I wasn't just throwing wildly
obscure stuff out there?)


#85 of 104 by anderyn on Thu Aug 2 12:16:44 2001:

I'll input some text soon (like by Sunday -- Gareth's graduation party/open
house/birthday party/going away party is Saturday!). 


#86 of 104 by orinoco on Thu Aug 2 13:52:59 2001:

(I read _Girl Goddess #9_ years ago, and it actually made a pretty big
impression on me.  I couldn't for the life of me remember the author's name.)


#87 of 104 by i on Thu Aug 9 03:52:25 2001:

<i looks around, wondering>


#88 of 104 by remmers on Tue Aug 14 18:31:06 2001:

Yoo hoo, anderyn.  New quote please?


#89 of 104 by anderyn on Wed Aug 15 16:09:47 2001:

Ohkay. This is from a favorite book of mine.

Damerel rode slowly back to the Priory, for a considerable part of the way
with a slack rein, allowing the gray to walk. The frown did not lift from his
brow: rather it deepened: and it was not until Crusader, startled by the
sudden uprising of a pheasant, stopped dead, throwing up his head and
snorting that he was thrown out of his abstraction. He admonished Crusader,
but leaned forward to pat his neck as well, because he knew the fault was
his. "Old fool!" he said. "Like your master -- who is something worse than
a fool. *Would she could make of me a saint, or I of her a sinner--* Who the
devil wrote that? You don't know, and I've forgotten, and in any event it's
of no consequence. For the first part it's too late, old friend, too late!
And for the second -- it was precisely my intention, and a rare moment this
is to discover that if I could, I would not! *Come* up!"

Crusader broke into a trot, and was kept to it, until, rounding a bend in the
lane that brought the main gates of the Priory within view, Damerel saw a
solitary horseman, walking his horse, and ejaculated: "Damn the boy!"


#90 of 104 by anderyn on Wed Aug 15 16:11:21 2001:

Some cautions -- the odd punctuation is in the edition I'm using here at
work, and I don't recall it in the original. The */* are to indicate
quotations or italics.


#91 of 104 by janc on Thu Aug 16 12:19:41 2001:

Hmmm.  I've read that.  But can't quite recall where.  Mercedes Lackey maybe?


#92 of 104 by anderyn on Thu Aug 16 14:03:48 2001:

No. Not Lackey. But an interesting guess!


#93 of 104 by janc on Thu Aug 16 15:24:49 2001:

You know, I think I haven't read that.  The names and situation sounded
familar, but on second reading, the voice doesn't.  Lackey was a long shot
based on people with funny names talking to horses.


#94 of 104 by anderyn on Fri Aug 17 00:22:44 2001:

This author is slightly earlier in the century than Lackey.


#95 of 104 by rcurl on Fri Aug 17 03:08:24 2001:

So, its is between zero and eight months ago when it was written?


#96 of 104 by anderyn on Fri Aug 17 10:58:59 2001:

Oh. Well, in THAT case...:-) LAST century... early.


#97 of 104 by davel on Fri Aug 17 12:34:24 2001:

I also feel that I've read it, but think I probably haven't.  <sigh>
*My* wild (**WILD**) guess is Ellis Peters.  I'm fairly sure that's wrong.


#98 of 104 by anderyn on Fri Aug 17 16:57:22 2001:

Definitely wrong, but you've got roughly the right era/nationality.


#99 of 104 by otaking on Tue Aug 21 04:38:52 2001:

Tanith Lee?


#100 of 104 by i on Sat Sep 15 03:18:40 2001:

<clears throat>


#101 of 104 by i on Sat Oct 27 00:58:03 2001:

<clears throat LOUDLY;>


#102 of 104 by remmers on Sat Oct 27 11:43:55 2001:

(Since this is the summer mysterious quote item, and it is no
longer in Agora, the throat-clearing may be going unheard.)


#103 of 104 by davel on Sat Oct 27 22:09:33 2001:

Well, it's the most recent one in the Books conference, where I read it, too.


#104 of 104 by remmers on Sun Oct 28 12:14:09 2001:

Maybe somebody should start a new one.


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